Youtube Bans Mark Twain

[nickyantichav]

does this dude have another channel??

[conferencereport]

@nickyantichav Yes, he's now VoxNeruda

[nickyantichav]

@conferencereport brilliant .. found him. cheers :D

[Laughingbear1960]

YouBoob did not JUST ban the video, YouBoob banned Wetlands Remediation and Cowpox for his usage of FREE MotherF**kin SPEECH.

[monkeytwineball]

A video of a hobo... reading Huck Fin... in an meth lab?

Epic.

[Christheatheist1]

Youtube are becoming the ultra PC, bed sheet wearing, broccoli smoothie drinking douche bags from Demolition Man. Hail Neruda!

[Steelfossil]

Youtube policy is fucked up...

[leconfidant]

Nope - This administrator is plain stupid and any politically correct excuses they wants to cite doesn't remover the fact that they're harming a culture they were paid to protect and nurture. Even if Twain's language was unforgivable, there ought to a record that this language existed and was typical of it's time. No-one's banning rap or hip-hop. Let the administrator come forward and offer a reason!

[DonQuixotedeKaw]

Thank you Fred. I've mirrored this on my secondary channel.

[DramaIama]

For the record, The internet is not considered speech so Nothing can be said of the actions taken agianst some one for what they do on the internet. The laws of internet usage are very much blurred and not well written as of now and International jurisdiction plays a limiting factor in the development of law making on the computer. The truth is companies on the internet control practically everything computer related, and their motives are usually funded by money.

[VoxNeruda]

@DramaIama Videos on the internet ARE speech.

Reasoning regarding protected speech are long and well settled.

[DramaIama]

@VoxNeruda Not by international standards and laws. While in one country it may be perfectly fine to insult the President of the peoples republic of china. But if your in china... Well Good luck with that.

I'm sure you see where i'm coming from. No need to nitpick at my statement.

[VoxNeruda]

@DramaIama The parent company Google is seated in the U.S.

All operations within America fall under its jurisdiction.

There are also several international conventions dealing with speech-

Berne and the Charter of Universal Human Rights come to mind.

[DramaIama]

@VoxNeruda for christ sake.. Your not that dumb. You realize that this has nothing to do with your video being taken down. On the domain of youtube they control what they wan't to put up and what they wan't to pull down. Its as simple as that. America can not say, Ok you HAVE to let mark twain be on youtube.. It doesn't happen like that dude.. And i KNOW that you know this.

[VoxNeruda]

@DramaIama We know the difference between DE FACTO and DE JURIS.

But do understand, YouTube's pretense of law is forever stripped.

[wideosvatcher]

huck finn chose going to hell so negro jim could be free. terrible morals i guess.

[BaileysBeads]

Does this mean all hip-hop music videos need to be taken down as well?

[MoscowMaestro]

Let's go back into the past and make it all politically correct. Shakespeare's going to be busy. The Roman Catholic Merchant of Venice. Othello The Prince Of Vietnam.

[DanaGarrett]

A county school system near me has banned Twain for the same reason. Odd given that Twain was a principal opponent of slavery.

[SkidRowRadio]

For fucks sake. 

[Brascofarian]

Glad he's opened a new channel... but totally disgusted by his channel being terminated. The administration on this website is broken.

Thanks for the link to his new channel.

[TWITfromURANUS]

Greetings!

[zarkoff45]

Was the character Wetlands Remediation played by noted horror movie actor John Carradine? I think I saw him smoking a cigar with Frankenstein's monster in James Whale's version of the story.

[urquiza78]

Reminds me of the court case involving Oscar Wilde with regard to shakespeare however I think it was more than likely the title of his video that was deemed provocative rather than the content, I could be wrong though.

[VoxNeruda]

@urquiza78 Correct in that the word "nigger" was found offensive.

The Government may not prohibit the verbal or nonverbal expression of an idea merely because society finds the idea offensive or disagreeable...

Texas v. Johnson 491 U.S. 397

[DramaIama]

@VoxNeruda While that is completely correct, youtube is not a Government organization of the USA. They are a company, And companies have rules. I am in no way agreeing to what they did. It is completely wrong to take down a video for such a reason when nothing racist or verbally insulting was said. But that fact is, Youtube allows us to post videos and they have certain guidelines that videos must abide by. So they have the authority to do as they please with the video. be it removal.

[VoxNeruda]

@DramaIama NO.

YouTube is a "public accommodation" and therefore falls under First Amendment protecttions.

[urquiza78]

@VoxNeruda I hear what you saying although I'm not a legal expert perhaps it was the pluralising of the word also. I do think as a community on youtube however we have a duty to be considerate with regard to the sensitivities of others which are not completely akin to other people's way of thinking or understandings of the concepts and tales highlighted by Mark Twain.

[HigherPlanes]

niggers here, niggers there, niggers everywhere. Niggers, niggers, niggers. Niggers is just a word people grow the fuck up. The context in which you use the word nigger is what matters most.

[HigherPlanes]

There is no distinctly native American criminal class except for congress ~Mark Twain

[gratex]

If I wrote a story called niggers it'd be trolling, Mark twain does it and he's a legend.

[conferencereport]

@gratex To be fair, the story was called Huck Finn.

[gratex]

@conferencereport that's just code, fred, like 1488!

[conferencereport]

@gratex I have no idea what you're talking about, please speak Inglish. We don't want none of your celtic jibber jabber in these parts.

[conferencereport]

@gratex Ok, I've looked it up.

[wideosvatcher]

sorry to post again but  it cant be a copyright issue.....huck finn is in the public domain theres several readings of it on libravox

[wideosvatcher]

Huckleberry Finn was the first book to make negros appear human. gee what an um asshole?

[wideosvatcher]

But the truth is, that when a Library expels a book of mine and leaves an unexpurgated Bible lying around where unprotected youth and age can get hold of it, the deep unconscious irony of it delights me and doesn't anger me.

-Mark Twain = Letter to Mrs. F. G. Whitmore, 7 February 1907

[sausage4mash]

I see they've taken his channel down ,I would of thought wetlands was original content personified .

[Grishnackolyte]

Whaddya know, he got banned cause of the damn niggers

[Loreleila]

This doesn't make any sense. What about Variablasts endless use of the word? Are you sure it wasn't a copyright issue? I hope not because those are life sentences, as I've discovered to my cost. And it's life in American legal terms, ie forever. That aside I see you're determined to get YouTube to actually do what it says it does. Good luck with that.

[Sherwulff]

Has China, bastion of artistic equity and freedom, become recourse to youtube censorship tactics???

[DeathofSpeech]

This then, Huckleberry Finn, is what caused his account to be shut?

.

At the point that a human moderator becomes too stupid to recognize art and value its expression, then human moderation become indistinguishable from a script.

When a human being is required to NOT pass a Turing Test, then that human being ceases to be human in any real sense of the word for the purposes of human judgement.

[rozeboosje]

Unbelievable.

[g1981c]

worst part of it all is that by being here on YouTube we support these Zionist cocksuckers. once again they managed to make us work towards our own enslavement.

[FmMan33]

@g1981c You're a strange fuck-job aren't you? You complain about a video being taken down, a reading of Mark Twain, containing the word "Niggers" and you complain that YouTube seem to be racist in some way, but then proceed to throw an Anti-Semitic slur towards the corporate big-wigs that run YouTube... Fight racism and enslavement with Anti-Semitism, good job.

[g1981c]

@FmMan33 its not my fault you can't understand anything

[shangrigreige]

@g1981c

Seek therapy? Or Jump?

[GalacticFunk42]

How dare Youtube ban this. This is American history. And Youtube took it down, why? Because he used the nigger? For using a common ethnic slur?! How many Youtube partners use the word "nigger"? How many of those partners get banned? ZERO! *sigh* youtube...

[VoxNeruda]

@GalacticFunk42 YouTube has a monetary interest in their "partners".

WetlandsRemediation, not being their cash cow, was easily sacrificed.