SSBB: Ice Climbers are still broken

[Xijbor]

I Have One Question: how did you did it?? 0.0

[onett128]

ice climbers own. I never used to like them much then i managed to master them. I generally learned to just do a attacks and not smash attacks.

[PrincesTomboy]

there's TWO of them, of course they're cheats!

[BOOBOO3976]

Out of the way Meta Knight! Or do you wanna taste of my grabs!

(Meta Knight runs in fear)

Ice climbers: Now were number 1 bitch!

[AceOfHearts65]

@BOOBOO3976

marth: where did it all go wrong

roy: right about the time when they took me out of brawl

ike: when they replaced roy with me they really replaced me with roy we have like the same tier

[DXTinho]

Ice Climbers for god tier~~

[Zitox2010]

haha nice oO

[Mylesperhour23]

ic downsmash can do a total of 40% w/o even charging up.

[MetaKnightsKirby]

i hate the IC's, a lv9 cpu did those chain throws 2 me! i mean cmon since when could they figure summut like that out!?

[nextwatcher]

Level 9 cpuslearn when you go online XP.

[44kike44]

it should be an interesting match :)

(i use fox) ;]

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Which character in this game isn't broken somehow (I can only think of Mario).

[snowtime11]

Only 2 are "Broken"

gg, cp?

[SiLeNtDo0m]

I may have exaggerated a bit but it is WAY more than 2. Metaknight, Snake, Marth, Ice Climbers, G&W, Ike......

[snowtime11]

I would only say 1 and that is Metaknight.

Snake? Can be beat

Marht? Look at the Tier list

IC? Don't get grabbed

G&W? I have no idea how you think he is broken

Ike? WTF

(And the only reason I say Metaknight is broken is use of this infinite dimensional cape and that is banned so)

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Snake's tilts are far too fast and overpowered (and his neutral A combo) as well as having loads of projectiles

Marth is quite capable of killing even a skilled player in 2 hits

Ice Climbers can not only do ridiculous chain grabs but also are almost immune to grabbing themselves

G&W again smashes are ridiculous and has sky high priority

Ike can easily kill on about 30%.

[snowtime11]

And Mario has a cape that you can make the player go the wrong way, Jiggs rest is good, ZZS has 3 items right away, Bozer can kill himself with you, Kirby can do the same also can King D3

OMG THEY ARE ALL BROKEN!

GG CP?

[ChildOfFury]

this comment truly proves u suck at brawl. ike: one of the hardest characters to main and is sooo nott broken...

Game&watch:just not broken...he is beatable(very floaty tho)

Marth:really? he is oe of the most balanced characters in my opinion..how the hell is he broken.

IC: i do think Ic are broken because fighting pros whos main focus is to grab, its hard not to get grabbed AT ALL.

Snake:pros rape with him but he is NOT BROKEN.

You a scrub...

[SiLeNtDo0m]

First of all I don't suck at Brawl. I've been playing it since the day it came out and know how to play decently with every character. Beating lvl 9 cpus is a necessity for me and I beat my friends all the time and I enjoy the game.

So your logic is fail.

[ChildOfFury]

the fact u think that Ike is broken is fail lo. sorry but the fact u think ike is broken just sets the fact down that u truly have no skill in brawl.. end of story.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Again where's the logic in that?

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Let me just get something straight here. No one seems to understand my definition of "broken". My one is that a character can easily own without much skill (there are a couple of exceptions to the rule). Ike fits in there perfectly.

I simply believe in playing fair matches that's why I use characters that require some skill and are fun to play as (such as Mario, Sonic etc).

[ChildOfFury]

LMAO U still suck at brawl if u think ike can "easily own with pretty much no skill". can is a punching bag in brawl and all his attacks are very slow except for his back air attack...... ike is NOT an easy character to use.... atleast in the world of people that dont suck...

[SiLeNtDo0m]

The majority of people who play Brawl "suck" as you say. Play some wifi matches and you will see that 90% of people on there are noobs. Ike is a character that is easy to PICK UP and learn but fairly hard to MASTER.

Also, how can you say someone sucks if you haven't even seen them play? Answer me that.

[ChildOfFury]

i dont understand you.... ike is not easy to pick up.... maybe in a team match if ur opponent is distracted... but ike is not easy to pick up...id say the only character in brawl who is truly easy to Pick Up is wolf. please brawl me online since it seems u have wfc... send me ur fc

[Louisnodell92]

First thing you need to do is get to know Smash Boards. it's the king of all that is smash. There you will learn about everything. And as far as characters being "broken"

Snake is in S teir yea, but if played wrong, your dead

Marth: just the fact that you think that he's broken is fail.

ICs: have you ever tryed to chain grab? it's very hard, even pros mess up sometimes. DON'T GET GRABBED NOOB

G&W: lulz, again fail. Bair = great. but no not broken

Ike: wow, lmfao, does SLOW ring a bell?

[Louisnodell92]

until you can tell me what a DACUS is. don't consider yourself a good player. Consider yourself someone who can push buttons and something will happen on screen

[SiLeNtDo0m]

A DACUS stands for Dash Attack Cancelled Up Smash.  It can be done by dashing then pressing the C Stick downwards followed immediately by pressing up and holding Z. Every character can do it but some better than others (Snake, Sheik, Falco, Wolf, Jiggly, Wario, Pit, Sonic, Diddy, Link and a couple of others).

>=)

[Vwashk]

There are other ways to dacus than C-stick down+Z-up. Like A+Z-up

And no one would ever use Sonic's dacus since his hyphen smash is so good.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

True. Sonic's DACUS does imo go too far. When I try to do it I just fly past the opponent lol.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

So again like ChildOfFury don't make stupid assumptions.

[Louisnodell92]

i wasn't making assumptions. i just said until you can tell me what a Dacus is don't conisder yourself a smash player. whatever. i don't really care that much to tell you the truth. Whatever.

[x13mako]

ah... ya they can chaingrab unlike any other but there are much more broken in the game... but im not nameing anybody

[SmashFino]

No johns... don't get grabbed

[spongebob68k]

It's not a john lol. He's stating his opinion.

I don't think that they're broken though. You can escape from it if you have low percentages, but after that you're done for.

Plus they have small grab range too.

[SmashFino]

Nothing in this game is broken. ;)

[missnino741]

dude virtually non existent shut up lain ic killed the best meta knight in the usa

[frosecold]

i will try it... but seems unfair to other players to do this

[Garghoul30]

Ice climbers are seriously even more grabbier than falco and D3. But this doesnt always work on ground stages, does it?

[zharnotczar]

You people who say that this is only possible if the second player does nothing obviously have no clue what the ice climbers are capable of. If you have the necessary skill, then if you can manage to land one grab, you can get an automatic kill. No if's and's or but's about it.

[HaohmaruHL]

isn't this only possible when the second player does NOTHING?

[Oriandu]

They're only broken if you let that happen, the odds of a human player allowing themselves to be caught in such a predicament are virtually non-existent. Unless, of course, one of the players is horrible.

[O5c4RR4m1r3Z]

So your saying its absolutely impossible for a person with skill to get grabbed?

You sir... fail... miserably

Once grabbed, even if at 0%, you're done for.

That's all there is to it

[baconstory]

all you gota do is punch the dude playing ic

[O5c4RR4m1r3Z]

xD never tried that

[cbas95]

cool

[megas0321]

That's fucking amazing. It's happened to me a few times before too.

[Korakira]

I hate the Ice climbers. I swear if One of ny experienced friends pick them I do EVERYTHING I can not to get grabbed.

[Getaro]

It's okay, I hate that monkey too.

[xCliffyBoii]

I can only do that when I try really hard. xO

[Hampsterboy420]

Ban please

[animeninja2]

lol thast is cheap

[nintendoboy889]

i've only perfected one of their chain grabs.....the easiest one xD

[Oktenko]

wooooooow.....

[ElectroBlade]

That was amazing

[highlander5523]

i love how all there grabs are chain grab (that is the only thing that makes them cheap)

[nathan9384]

Yes, but that is enough to make them broken. If you get grabbed once you're knocked out.

[nikc101]

death 2 diddy k0ng!!

[kefkiroth]

they r not broken

[TheBananaboysFoot]

Awesome. I gotta learn to do that- I'm good with Ice climbers...^_^

and most other characters :)

[elizarelizarelizar]

... If you're good with IC then you SHOULD be able to do that.

[Eggz2021]

ICs sucked in melee and they still suck lol

[PhoeniXPimP411]

They did suck in melee... But, I gotta Admit.. They are GREAT in Brawl.

[SoaringPenguins]

They were my best in melee and still my best.

[lefthooknaruto2034]

My nana never does what I want her to do.

[YGTBKSilenceOfNoOne]

Try jamming the Cstick up after they're 100%.

[Awesomegame17]

I gotta master this with them!

Then again, I suck with them, sorta :/

[Monkeypulse]

one way to break them is if next time they dont give her the abilty to grab there proablem solved

[Monkeypulse]

note to self stay away from climbers

[HitmanSora]

what do you mean by broken

[hakesho]

they were not broken in melee

[swillo]

Actually they were very broken in melee, and had a number of easy infinities and a glitch that prevented your opponent from moving.

[hakesho]

you got me i should have said not AS broken

[snowtime11]

The where MORE broken in melee, but the freeze glitch was banned

[hakesho]

it was banned in tournaments so they weren't as broken in tournament play. but i don't really think they're that broken in either brawl or melee. if they were really that broken they'd be winning more tournaments.

[Vwashk]

But there was wobbling, which was a 0-death.

[hakesho]

wobbling was usually banned but even in tournaments with wobbling the ice climbers still got wrecked because they were just not that good.

[Vwashk]

ICs were better than most chars back in Melee.

[hakesho]

yea, but being better than most characters =/= being broken

[Vwashk]

Well, yeah. I don't think they were broken in Melee. But they were a good character.

[hakesho]

they were decent. better than most characters but not really one of the best

[INSANECRAZYHODAPP]

you know you can get out of a perfect wobble easier(might break your hands but it is possblie) than you can get out of brawl chain throws right?

[Vwashk]

And it's possible for Bowser (or was it DK... I'm pretty sure it was Bowser, though) to out plank EVERYONE because he can grab the ledge using his Up-B before the invincibility frames expire.

Too bad you have to be 100% frame perfect the whole time.

Sure you can break out of Brawl CGs (it's almost impossible to infinite someone before around 40% because they'll break out almost immediatly), but past early % it is pretty much inescapable.

[INSANECRAZYHODAPP]

by wiggleing out right? if so yeah the wobble is easier to get out of. What do you mean by out plank is that the thing where you hsng on to the edge and basically camp them? I conpared the wobble because most people say it's uber broken which it is but it's possblie not possible for most fingers but yeah. I play melee ice climbers and the brawl ones when to gay to touch( and most others i,ve seen) and down-smash doesn't feel like sex like it does in melee

pichu power.

[XLordSundayX]

@swillo

They have ONE easy infinite, Wobbling (including two variations Blizzobbling and Jabobbling, which are essentially the same thing, so whatever). This infinite is banned in many areas, and the Freeze Glitch is universally banned.

Any of their other chain-grabs are difficult to perform and aren't actually infinite (they rely on predicting where and when the opponent will escape out of the chain-grab).

Not to mention they are one of the hardest characters in the game to use.

[chexyCheeSe]

DUGHDUIAHVAOVHADIGFHAvfhFU

OBJECTION

[ChAoS9779]

IC also have an infinite snow cube throw, like Falco's infinite lazer.

[KRDsonic]

This is one of the reasons I really like Ice Climbers :D If only their infinite grabs weren't banned in Houston tournaments...

[ultimaterazer]

yo where are these tournaments?

[KRDsonic]

They're posted at smashboards.

[ultimaterazer]

k thx

[deVall3y]

fuck sakurai cant make games for shit

[OrandajinDesu]

I lol'd.

[IronClimber]

Ice climers are da bomb

[pbrtrainer56]

HAHHAHA nintendo u missed something XD

[cheesewheel]

I love your grab combos, that shit iz nice! (Chad Warden style)

[Arel0e]

They are mid at best. not top. The infinite takes time to practice, so the effort put in is worth the result. Just dont get grabbed.

[PrinceMarth85]

Oh wow...I always use to like the Ice Climbers...Now I have even more reason to like them. Hehehe.

[kemps91]

for all you who say you can get out of it......no. You don't have enough time to get out the of the grab, I've tried it. The IC's have even more grabs than what is shown on this video.

[Audiophilia07]

its not broken. A human player can struggle out, during the alternate grab. And the spike at the end can be meteor canceled.

[gofg467]

Nope, the alt grabbing cannot be struggled out of.

[Overhazard]

Won't work in a free-for-all though.

[gaaraohye]

how the hell do you do that?!?! de sync I mean..

[VandalHiroshima]

GOODNESS GRACIOUS! That's beastly as hell! Watch everyone jump to the Ice Climbers now, lol!

[KarateKid5545]

How do you control the other climber like that?

[Drag0nTrain3r]

good lord man, i must really suck at this game.

[MeTaLiCfLaMe]

not broken just beastly good top tier characters.. there an infinite throw combo too

[BlackBelt002]

Wow! Nice combos. I didn't know that the ice climbers were that good.

[solosoloblackdude]

of course, but they're risky...

[goldskarr]

yeah.If NaNa get's KO'd-haha-you're fucked!

[Rawreths]

Not really.

[ShinyDragonite11]

You can still chain grab when your alone, just grab down then grab down again, only at the start of 0% though... maybe at the end to 30%

[TeeKayDee]

I main ICs. They're good but not amazing. My partner gets very stupid very often. The whatever%>death grabs make them worth it though.