when i enter the pasture and they already follow me around is that the same as joining up? when i arrive every morning they do their little chewy thing right away before i get in the pasture.
@greatbigbubby - no thats not joining up, your horses already trust you and see you as the "head horse" or whatever you want to call it, if there were horses that thought they were the dominate ones they wouldnt follow you around
hi, so i dont have my own horse but i ride one at my barn and were a good team when it comes to riding. although we arent amazning and he can be kinda crazy. but he has bad ground manners especially when leading him in lesson for younger girls. i tried this last week after our lesson and he followed me and everything but i was just wondering if you thouhgt it was worth it with a horse that isnt mine i cant be with every day. i just wanna be closer with him :) and any other advice?
i've once had join-up with a very untrusting horse and it was the best feeling i ever hed in my life. the horse was called storm and he was beaten by his last owner and never trusted men since, he was only trained by the girls at the yard and my boss asked me if i wanted to have a go at join up with him in the round pen. it took just ten minutes to have join-up with him and my boss was gob smacked because i was the first man he's ever trusted since he came to the yard three years ago.
If I were to try this on a stallion, would it take more patience and time than a mare or does it depend on there personality and pride? (The stallion has not been broken.)
I don't care what others say... to see something in my life give all of their trust to me, to give everything to me like this... I can't put thicause I never s into words.
I Honestly cried the first time it happened for me, because I have never felt that kind of connection. I wouldn't trade it for the world
I totally believe in Monty's methods and join up. You worked the horse around the pen for about the right length of time and this horse GAVE you a really strong join up when he turned in to you. It was SO unfair to send him out again, and he won't understand why.
@Cisiiie - Look if you don't like join up then why are you watching videos of it? and why are you commenting on them, you need to get a hobby instead of talking trash on the internet. I think you will find 9 out of 10 people who deal with horses every day of there lives find join up to be a better method of starting a horse than forcing them into doing something thats not natural to them, at least this way you have an understanding with the horse, and it knows it can trust you
@Cisiiie Hell yeah i blindly follow my horses, they are my TRAINERS YOU DUMB CUNT! If i didn't think for myself i would of broke my neck a while ago you stupid bitch. Don't be ignat!
cool--i never believed in this sort of thing then i tried it today with my 3 year old as she just wasnt catching and it worked within 5 mins--will def try again
Wow, i can't wait to do it! Am maybe doing it with my fav horse at my riding stable next week, since she has issues when it comes to letting anyone touch her head and let them near her in the paddock, so i'm hope to join up with her so she trust and respects me so we can be a better team :)
I did this with the gelding I lease because we had no understanding. We took about 45 mins to get half way but then we had to leave but afterwards with only that he listened to me and we got along a lot better. Can't wait to try it again!
Having the horse face you is imortant, which would yo rather see, the head or the butt? And them turning their butt to you is disrespectful, and whit doing join up you goal is to have respect.
I love this technique. My stubborn mare caved after about 45 sweaty minutes. She did not, however, face me, she stood in a corner with her butt to me, but she was clearly whupped so i did the walk away as a test. She came right along, licking & chewing. I don't think the position of the body is as important as, does she follow you? If not, off & running......! Good vid.
Nobody ever called it a game, horses do this in the wild, so if it's in their nature then I don't see how it could be so bad. Alot of top horse trainers use this method and all top trainers have a good round pen foundation before they back their horses.
This makes me sick... Don't you know you mentally break a horse when you do a join up? By chasing the horse away you give him a death penalty. Offcourse he wants to do everything for you when you finaly permit him to come back again. He is scared to death you will do this to him again. Especially becouse the horse did you no wrong, he dusnt understand why you give him this punishment.
I had to do a join up once, i hated it. The horse was clearly upset. JOIN UP IS NOT A GAME!!!
@Cisiiie I've watched my mare do join up with one of my geldings. It took him a week to be able to get anywhere near her without her chasing him away. He was never scared of her when she chased him away. When you did join up you had to of done something wrong. Savannah is right, it is their nature.
@Cisiiie No, you're not giving the horse a 'death penalty'. You're giving them a choice, to put their trust in you and join you in the middle, or to keep running and put the distance between you. Not every horse responds to this, some keep running. But you are showing yourself as an 'alpha'. The horse finds that you are stronger than they are (not in the literal sence) and they should come to you for protection. They put their trust in you because they see you as saftey for their lives!
@Cisiiie its a small form of puishment not too severe but when achieved join up is amazing, just because you did it once, doesnt't mean its a burden on the ENTIRE horse world. maybe you should try again and maybe with a different horse? ive tried it many times, too many to count, and join up ALWAYS works
I am SOOOOOOOOOO JEALOUS of you! I adore horses but I don't have one! Right now I am reading a book called Chicken Soup for the Horse Lover's Soul. You're SO LUCKY!
that looked really amazing well done. I recently joined up with a friends horse and the feeling when they follow you is so amazing its unreal. inside you feel like crying but the outside you just want to jump with joy. yor lucky to have your own horse to do join up with.
I just have wanted to do it for awhile. He is a litle spooky since he recently got moved into this paddock because I just bought him a few weeks ago. So I was hoping it would help him stay a little more calm around me. =D
that would be fine to do join up in as long as the space isent too big (that makes more work for you) it wouldnt be to hard to do join up in there you will just have to work a little harder to keep him out of the corners because thats where he will want to stop but no there nothing wrong with doing join up in a square or rectangler area
I have a 16.1hh fence. I have electric fencing as well as fencing around the paddock. Do you think I could do join up with him in that. I know that it will be hard because of the corners. Or would it be to difficult to try? It's mainly because he is young, and I need more trust in him, and he needs more in me to.
oh and you dont really need a round pen to do join up, a small pen would be ok but a round oen would make it ALOT eaiser, that way there is no corners for the horse to stop
oh and once you ask him/her for the stop. once you turn your back, they should follow you. thats when you know that your done. if they ignor you ( like the video) the horse was just standing there in the round pen instead of following the girl. make him work again until he does when you do ask for that stop. just like the girl did. hopefully i didnt sound toooo confussing haha sorry about my spelling XD
after you trotted him enough to get him warmed up and he starts acting "hot" lope him around the round pen. if hes not listening to you, change the direction hes in and make him go the other way by cutting him off. keep doing it until hes paying attention and hes eye is focussed on you.
my mare is really hot and is all attitude if i dont do this with her. sometimes it takes 45minits. depends on the horse.
so.. i've tried this multiple times with my gelding...and all he does is get worked up. he doesn't show any signs of wanting to join up with me and only becomes worked up.
I've been working with a friend on a horse. He gets all sweaty, so we let him cool off, then he's fine. We work him again. I find lunging the horse first gets him settled down, then he understands that he has to run circles. Then when we let him go he joins up.
That's not even a join up..
TheMovielove2 2 months ago
i mean really ? dont reply to my political comments you inbreed...and seeing thie vid confirms it further that your an inbreed....
palestino713 3 months ago
youre a ptitful retard
palestino713 3 months ago
i do that wif my pony well done xx :)
BarneyKat 5 months ago
when i enter the pasture and they already follow me around is that the same as joining up? when i arrive every morning they do their little chewy thing right away before i get in the pasture.
greatbigbubby 6 months ago
@greatbigbubby - no thats not joining up, your horses already trust you and see you as the "head horse" or whatever you want to call it, if there were horses that thought they were the dominate ones they wouldnt follow you around
savannah4069 6 months ago
grgeous horse!!!!!!! :)
TheMickey1019 8 months ago
grgeous horse!!!!!!! :)
TheMickey1019 8 months ago
hi, so i dont have my own horse but i ride one at my barn and were a good team when it comes to riding. although we arent amazning and he can be kinda crazy. but he has bad ground manners especially when leading him in lesson for younger girls. i tried this last week after our lesson and he followed me and everything but i was just wondering if you thouhgt it was worth it with a horse that isnt mine i cant be with every day. i just wanna be closer with him :) and any other advice?
liveloveride1000 9 months ago
Totally beautiful! Thanks for uploading!! I simply MUST try this with my pony.
Anyway, you two are such a wonderful team, keep on doing the good work!!<3 I loved watching it!
Emblingz 10 months ago
i've once had join-up with a very untrusting horse and it was the best feeling i ever hed in my life. the horse was called storm and he was beaten by his last owner and never trusted men since, he was only trained by the girls at the yard and my boss asked me if i wanted to have a go at join up with him in the round pen. it took just ten minutes to have join-up with him and my boss was gob smacked because i was the first man he's ever trusted since he came to the yard three years ago.
i1like1horses 1 year ago
If I were to try this on a stallion, would it take more patience and time than a mare or does it depend on there personality and pride? (The stallion has not been broken.)
Mannadanoi 1 year ago
I don't care what others say... to see something in my life give all of their trust to me, to give everything to me like this... I can't put thicause I never s into words.
I Honestly cried the first time it happened for me, because I have never felt that kind of connection. I wouldn't trade it for the world
TakeItToTheMax5 1 year ago
I totally believe in Monty's methods and join up. You worked the horse around the pen for about the right length of time and this horse GAVE you a really strong join up when he turned in to you. It was SO unfair to send him out again, and he won't understand why.
Minsky17 1 year ago
@Cisiiie - Look if you don't like join up then why are you watching videos of it? and why are you commenting on them, you need to get a hobby instead of talking trash on the internet. I think you will find 9 out of 10 people who deal with horses every day of there lives find join up to be a better method of starting a horse than forcing them into doing something thats not natural to them, at least this way you have an understanding with the horse, and it knows it can trust you
savannah4069 1 year ago 2
@Cisiiie Hell yeah i blindly follow my horses, they are my TRAINERS YOU DUMB CUNT! If i didn't think for myself i would of broke my neck a while ago you stupid bitch. Don't be ignat!
ShelbiSexy 1 year ago
cool--i never believed in this sort of thing then i tried it today with my 3 year old as she just wasnt catching and it worked within 5 mins--will def try again
loveanimalsforever 1 year ago
Wow, i can't wait to do it! Am maybe doing it with my fav horse at my riding stable next week, since she has issues when it comes to letting anyone touch her head and let them near her in the paddock, so i'm hope to join up with her so she trust and respects me so we can be a better team :)
xoxMangaxAnimexox 1 year ago
I did this with the gelding I lease because we had no understanding. We took about 45 mins to get half way but then we had to leave but afterwards with only that he listened to me and we got along a lot better. Can't wait to try it again!
EveDarkAngel666 1 year ago
Having the horse face you is imortant, which would yo rather see, the head or the butt? And them turning their butt to you is disrespectful, and whit doing join up you goal is to have respect.
savannah4069 1 year ago
I love this technique. My stubborn mare caved after about 45 sweaty minutes. She did not, however, face me, she stood in a corner with her butt to me, but she was clearly whupped so i did the walk away as a test. She came right along, licking & chewing. I don't think the position of the body is as important as, does she follow you? If not, off & running......! Good vid.
AnywhereButHere09 1 year ago
thats heaps cool :) im going to do this when i get a horse
horsey1rocky 1 year ago
I love join up. I've only done it twice, but it's amazing.
MissCowGirlMagic 1 year ago
that was soooooooo amazing!!!!!!I really want to do it today with my horse :)
bellegirl31 1 year ago
Nobody ever called it a game, horses do this in the wild, so if it's in their nature then I don't see how it could be so bad. Alot of top horse trainers use this method and all top trainers have a good round pen foundation before they back their horses.
savannah4069 1 year ago
This makes me sick... Don't you know you mentally break a horse when you do a join up? By chasing the horse away you give him a death penalty. Offcourse he wants to do everything for you when you finaly permit him to come back again. He is scared to death you will do this to him again. Especially becouse the horse did you no wrong, he dusnt understand why you give him this punishment.
I had to do a join up once, i hated it. The horse was clearly upset. JOIN UP IS NOT A GAME!!!
Cisiiie 1 year ago
@Cisiiie I've watched my mare do join up with one of my geldings. It took him a week to be able to get anywhere near her without her chasing him away. He was never scared of her when she chased him away. When you did join up you had to of done something wrong. Savannah is right, it is their nature.
ShelbiSexy 1 year ago
@ShelbiSexy : Yeah its nature, but that still doesnt mean its fun to a horse. Being killed is nature, so you think being killed is fun?
And ofcourse you dont see why its bad, you just blindly folow those trainers you mention. Think for yourself!
Cisiiie 1 year ago
@Cisiiie No, you're not giving the horse a 'death penalty'. You're giving them a choice, to put their trust in you and join you in the middle, or to keep running and put the distance between you. Not every horse responds to this, some keep running. But you are showing yourself as an 'alpha'. The horse finds that you are stronger than they are (not in the literal sence) and they should come to you for protection. They put their trust in you because they see you as saftey for their lives!
prettyprincessanime 1 year ago
@Cisiiie its a small form of puishment not too severe but when achieved join up is amazing, just because you did it once, doesnt't mean its a burden on the ENTIRE horse world. maybe you should try again and maybe with a different horse? ive tried it many times, too many to count, and join up ALWAYS works
meisuyato03 8 months ago
I am SOOOOOOOOOO JEALOUS of you! I adore horses but I don't have one! Right now I am reading a book called Chicken Soup for the Horse Lover's Soul. You're SO LUCKY!
annaleah6740 1 year ago
Her name is Sabrina
savannah4069 2 years ago
That looked amazing ! I wish my parents would let me get a horse ....Then I could try it too ..
You're so lucky.
What's his name ?
LOL22096 2 years ago
that looked really amazing well done. I recently joined up with a friends horse and the feeling when they follow you is so amazing its unreal. inside you feel like crying but the outside you just want to jump with joy. yor lucky to have your own horse to do join up with.
kelliandlacey 2 years ago
well thats good, just remember to take things slow :)
savannah4069 2 years ago
Okay cool thanks.
I just have wanted to do it for awhile. He is a litle spooky since he recently got moved into this paddock because I just bought him a few weeks ago. So I was hoping it would help him stay a little more calm around me. =D
RockerRazorBlade 2 years ago
that would be fine to do join up in as long as the space isent too big (that makes more work for you) it wouldnt be to hard to do join up in there you will just have to work a little harder to keep him out of the corners because thats where he will want to stop but no there nothing wrong with doing join up in a square or rectangler area
savannah4069 2 years ago
Hey.
I have a 16.1hh fence. I have electric fencing as well as fencing around the paddock. Do you think I could do join up with him in that. I know that it will be hard because of the corners. Or would it be to difficult to try? It's mainly because he is young, and I need more trust in him, and he needs more in me to.
RockerRazorBlade 2 years ago
she is a Canadian X Quater Horse, 6 years old. 15hh.....
savannah4069 2 years ago
shes beautiful! what breed???
horselover0623 2 years ago
oh and you dont really need a round pen to do join up, a small pen would be ok but a round oen would make it ALOT eaiser, that way there is no corners for the horse to stop
savannah4069 2 years ago
being right behind me is not the point... a horse that didnt join up wouldnt follow me at all...
savannah4069 2 years ago
the horse is supposed to b RIGHT behind you, not 10 ft away
rufusgrr96 2 years ago
do you have to have a round pen to do join up ??
RegzPonyLuv 2 years ago
oh and once you ask him/her for the stop. once you turn your back, they should follow you. thats when you know that your done. if they ignor you ( like the video) the horse was just standing there in the round pen instead of following the girl. make him work again until he does when you do ask for that stop. just like the girl did. hopefully i didnt sound toooo confussing haha sorry about my spelling XD
weitzel22breanne 2 years ago
after you trotted him enough to get him warmed up and he starts acting "hot" lope him around the round pen. if hes not listening to you, change the direction hes in and make him go the other way by cutting him off. keep doing it until hes paying attention and hes eye is focussed on you.
my mare is really hot and is all attitude if i dont do this with her. sometimes it takes 45minits. depends on the horse.
weitzel22breanne 2 years ago
so.. i've tried this multiple times with my gelding...and all he does is get worked up. he doesn't show any signs of wanting to join up with me and only becomes worked up.
any tips or advice you can give?
flowersandemos 2 years ago
I've been working with a friend on a horse. He gets all sweaty, so we let him cool off, then he's fine. We work him again. I find lunging the horse first gets him settled down, then he understands that he has to run circles. Then when we let him go he joins up.
horselover5654 2 years ago