@voolare I have heard Alfred Reisenauer playing Schumann's Carnaval "Portrait of Chopin" on Tushinsky's "Keyboard Immortals" program, and it wasn't any midi conversion.
I think this was a good attempt by someone who is learning through tinkering. I hope the person who uploaded this will find the roll of "Portrait of Chopin" :)
Lack of pedal makes this recording crystal clear. I started doubting if my Ricordi edition was really written down by Liszt. Printed versions are just bones of what the master wanted to hear. I wonder why great performance like this had been forgotten for decades. This player has a superb sense of rubato, obvious from how he introduces the theme. Plsh mezzos R glorious, but he shows the piano is never an inferior instrument. I hope d60944 will dig up, post more Liszt and Theo schools rolls.
the problem with midi conversions of piano rolls is that the rolls contain the data stating the start time of the piano action and mechanism. Midi notes, by contrast, record the moment of the sound itself. Player rolls are programmed so that notes strike at different speeds (creating dynamics) and this give a jerky sound if translated direct to midi. In Welte rolls louder notes are retarded as they fly forward at a greater speed to coincide with earlier (slower playing) softer notes.
Well,interesting,certainly,but, for me,as usaul hte jreky atcion fo teh ogirinl menakissm dfeteas het mucisal idae. The variants are interesting once one gets used to the roller-coaster effect. Thanx!
Well. Interesting. He's performing his improvisings more than 1/3 of time byond the written score. They did that all the time back when.. What a great one... thx for adding
He adds his own cadenzas and another entire variation.
I doubt that the accompaniment of the main theme was that loud when he played it.
marcxopoco 6 days ago
midi conversions should be' banned
voolare 11 months ago
@voolare I have heard Alfred Reisenauer playing Schumann's Carnaval "Portrait of Chopin" on Tushinsky's "Keyboard Immortals" program, and it wasn't any midi conversion.
I think this was a good attempt by someone who is learning through tinkering. I hope the person who uploaded this will find the roll of "Portrait of Chopin" :)
TuboEspectador 7 months ago
Thanks for uploading!
gerardbedecarter 1 year ago
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thailagenz84 1 year ago
Lack of pedal makes this recording crystal clear. I started doubting if my Ricordi edition was really written down by Liszt. Printed versions are just bones of what the master wanted to hear. I wonder why great performance like this had been forgotten for decades. This player has a superb sense of rubato, obvious from how he introduces the theme. Plsh mezzos R glorious, but he shows the piano is never an inferior instrument. I hope d60944 will dig up, post more Liszt and Theo schools rolls.
joesubaruson 2 years ago
the problem with midi conversions of piano rolls is that the rolls contain the data stating the start time of the piano action and mechanism. Midi notes, by contrast, record the moment of the sound itself. Player rolls are programmed so that notes strike at different speeds (creating dynamics) and this give a jerky sound if translated direct to midi. In Welte rolls louder notes are retarded as they fly forward at a greater speed to coincide with earlier (slower playing) softer notes.
pianolasociety 2 years ago
Badass! I loved this
ReturnOfTheStienway 2 years ago
Interesting and instructive personal effects. Pretty wretched roll as far as dynamics and rythm ore concerned.
aardvaark069 3 years ago
Well,interesting,certainly,but, for me,as usaul hte jreky atcion fo teh ogirinl menakissm dfeteas het mucisal idae. The variants are interesting once one gets used to the roller-coaster effect. Thanx!
NOSEhow2LIV 3 years ago
They say his style actually resembles that of Liszt's by nature, not by immitation. Superb. Thanks.
artvirtue 3 years ago
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jero13595 3 years ago
Well. Interesting. He's performing his improvisings more than 1/3 of time byond the written score. They did that all the time back when.. What a great one... thx for adding
culturehorse 3 years ago