By the way, the man who committed adultery was not gone -- he was one of her accusers (perhaps in the back of the mob, but he was there). The reason why he's not listed in John 8 is because the fornicating man was an ordained PHARISEE (one of her accusers). It's like this: find a beautiful girl, have your way with her, and then ACCUSE HER of wrong-doing.
cf: Catholicism, The Inquisition, the Charismatic Movement, Pentecostalism, Islam, homosexuals, liberalism, and Roman history for more info.
@secondtimothy316 Hey dude, where did you get the info about the man involved in adultery being part of the mob, in John 8? I have never heard of that view......curious.
@jsslvr. Matt. 7:1 is not Christian doctrine. Even if it did say "Judge not, period" -- which is doesn't -- even if it did, the context is as - kjvbaptistguy - said.
Also, reference Matthew 5:20 and 5:48 (at the beginning of the Sermon / Mount). Obviously Pharisees, other Jewish leaders were there; Jesus placed them in his sermon. When we get to Matthew 7:1, Jesus is still talking about the Pharisees, who were judging the people in error. If we like 7:1, then we must follow 5:48 in SAME sermon
@jsslvr -- John 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Even Matthew 7:1 does not say "don't judge"; it says "if you judge, you will be judged the same way you judge."
Romans 14:13 says to judge against stumbliing blocks.This only 9 vs. after your Romans 14:4 quotation.
You like to point out the fact that the bloke "lied"... you call him a "lier" in your past video (which is pretty much exactly the same as this one). Unless you have NEVER lied, you have no right to condemn or judge him! Read your bible, I used to read KJV and I'm pretty sure it is the same in that it says only the sinless could throw the first stone to the adultress, and Jesus the sinless lamb wouldn't even condemn her. Stop with the judging!
@jsslvr The adultress wasn't condemned because they couldn't find the man who she was with, read Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22. We are allowed to judge things. Stop hanging on Matthew 7:1, it's a kingdom gospel verse, and the kingdom hasn't happened yet because the Jews had the Romans kill Jesus, He died, was buried, and rose again, the Jews rejected Him again, and the church age began. The kingdom of heaven comes to earth in the millenial reign of Christ after now and the tribulation.
@KJVBaptistGuy Why on earth do you think it was because they couldn't find the guy she slept with? She was caught in the act, and by the sound of things, by more than one person! Show me a New Testament scriptures that say to judge others! Romans 14: 4 Who are you to judge another man’s servant? To his own Master he stands or falls. Now he will be made to stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. In other words, what right do you have to judge people, surely God, their master will
@jsslvr Well he was gone then, otherwise they would have hauled him along to. No guilty man, no stoning. And I said "judge things" unless you spell people this way "things."
"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" I Corinthians 6:2
"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" I Corinthians 6:3, and "this life" must be referring to now.
Either Gipp is a liar or Wilkins lost his voice momentarily. All present saw what happened. GOD knows what happened.
I thought for a second, it might have been a shot at humour on the part of Wilkins, but if so, not a very wise one as it seems to have taken on a life of it's own with all these videos and it has cast doubt on the whole situation. None-the-less, we will all stand before GOD one day. Those who have tried to change HIS Word and those who practice lies will not enter HIS Kindom.
This whole thing is ridiculous. So Whatif he lost his voice! He lost it MOMENTARILY.
The guy recovered had a drink of water and finished the debate. If this is some how God punishing him as Riplinger has said, I think it would have been a permanent thing to where his voice would have been gone for good. He wouldn't have been able to continue. God had nothing to do with the incident.
PS: What I'd like to know is why it is so important that you cover up the truth and keep this lie going. Is Gail Riplinger paying you to? You need to pray as the Psalmist did: "Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue (Ps. 120:2)." God sees your lying.
What a liar you are, Sam Gipp. I'd be afraid if I were you. But then you would really have to believe there is a God. In your other video "Sam Gipp talks about "the lost voice"" you admit that Wilkins lost his voice, took a drink of water, then got his voice back. Haven't you EVER heard of this thing called a "frog in one's throat"? You've never had one? Golly, that could be a sign of punishment from God for lying. I have seen all the footage and the entire interview and you are the liar, sir.
well dr. gipp you claim at 1:09 that "we have the actual segment" how can that be if as you claim at 2:47 "it will never be found. it does not exist" what you show is not what you imply that you have at the beginning. you are at least guilty of demonstrating the "bait and switch" tactic or outright lying to God's people and the world. now what say you? whom shall we trust? you? obviously not!
1) I don't think Gipp never mentioned this second, taped over incident until the
"frog in throat" footage was released. If what Gipp says was true, he would have mentioned all this before,
2)Why would the KJV folk have laughed during the 2nd taping? Wouldn't they have refused to cooperate with a retaping?
The sad thing is that Gipp probably believes himself. To be a KJV Onlist, you have to be skilled in self-brainwashing as it has no grounding in reality.
(By malformed inclusions, I'm referring to "it's not in most of the texts, the first textual occurance of this is 300 years later, and it doesn't seem to fit in with scripture so we're putting it in a footnote.) The NKJV sought to correct those obvious translation errors. my question to you is "was Jesus begotten by the father, or was he one of a kind" the greek in John 3:16 which you will no doubt go to, is "monogenes" meaning "one of a kind". That's the greek, and the KJV mistranslates it.
just like scripture, we have to interpret what people say in context. what you just posted was technically true, but it's not what Dr. White was obviously trying to convey. you have to show fairness in your interpretations of other people's words especially the words in the bible itself. and Finally just to be clear. I and indeed the rest of us who've studied the topic in any meaningful depth could list hundreds of mistranslations, mistakes, and malformed inclusions in the KJV, (continued again)
to everyone on here.... just stop. the thing is that all of you aren't on the same page at all. all I see here is miscommunication. between the arguing parties. and Curvalecce makes a good point. the whole point of other kjv onliests, was that this was a catastrophic failure. in context JW is talking about something more than just "oops, sorry, got a frog in my throat, let me take a drink of water" and when he denies that anyone lost their voice, he's talking about a catastrophe. (continued)
... No, James White was addressing the issue with Sam Gipp. to be clear, I was saying that Sam Gipp was making a big deal of it as though Don Wilkins had gone mute or something.... he (wilkins) had a frog in his throat if you will. James White then responded to Sam Gipp on the issue, and was saying that no one "went mute" or seriously lost their voice like Sam Gipp was asserting. Also you've not addressed whether Jesus was begotten by the father or is coeternal and is the one of a kind son.
Not sure what addressing whether Jesus IS the begotten of the father and coeternal... Jesus Christ, the one and only begotten Son of the Father, and second Person of the triune Godhead, God-man, the firstborn of creation, who before the world was He is...yes, he has always existed as the Son. If you are asking if I believe in the eternal Sonship of Christ, YES. Is He God's Only Son who was God begotten into human flesh? YES.
Brother Gipp, I am not surprised by White's tactics at all, any guy whose ministry is to run around the country "debating" rather than preaching the gospel, is a bit off track anyways. I am anxiously awaiting that new book on daystar website Is Our English Bible Inspired! We need that up here! Keep On! We love you brother and look forward to seeing you and Mrs. Gipp soon.
I have lost my mind.
wernertrptube 9 months ago
By the way, the man who committed adultery was not gone -- he was one of her accusers (perhaps in the back of the mob, but he was there). The reason why he's not listed in John 8 is because the fornicating man was an ordained PHARISEE (one of her accusers). It's like this: find a beautiful girl, have your way with her, and then ACCUSE HER of wrong-doing.
cf: Catholicism, The Inquisition, the Charismatic Movement, Pentecostalism, Islam, homosexuals, liberalism, and Roman history for more info.
secondtimothy316 9 months ago
@secondtimothy316 Hey dude, where did you get the info about the man involved in adultery being part of the mob, in John 8? I have never heard of that view......curious.
sp30ful 7 months ago
@jsslvr. Matt. 7:1 is not Christian doctrine. Even if it did say "Judge not, period" -- which is doesn't -- even if it did, the context is as - kjvbaptistguy - said.
Also, reference Matthew 5:20 and 5:48 (at the beginning of the Sermon / Mount). Obviously Pharisees, other Jewish leaders were there; Jesus placed them in his sermon. When we get to Matthew 7:1, Jesus is still talking about the Pharisees, who were judging the people in error. If we like 7:1, then we must follow 5:48 in SAME sermon
secondtimothy316 9 months ago
@jsslvr -- John 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Even Matthew 7:1 does not say "don't judge"; it says "if you judge, you will be judged the same way you judge."
Romans 14:13 says to judge against stumbliing blocks.This only 9 vs. after your Romans 14:4 quotation.
secondtimothy316 9 months ago
Good grief this guy is an idiot.
Keruaran 1 year ago
You like to point out the fact that the bloke "lied"... you call him a "lier" in your past video (which is pretty much exactly the same as this one). Unless you have NEVER lied, you have no right to condemn or judge him! Read your bible, I used to read KJV and I'm pretty sure it is the same in that it says only the sinless could throw the first stone to the adultress, and Jesus the sinless lamb wouldn't even condemn her. Stop with the judging!
jsslvr 1 year ago
@jsslvr The adultress wasn't condemned because they couldn't find the man who she was with, read Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22. We are allowed to judge things. Stop hanging on Matthew 7:1, it's a kingdom gospel verse, and the kingdom hasn't happened yet because the Jews had the Romans kill Jesus, He died, was buried, and rose again, the Jews rejected Him again, and the church age began. The kingdom of heaven comes to earth in the millenial reign of Christ after now and the tribulation.
KJVBaptistGuy 1 year ago
@KJVBaptistGuy Why on earth do you think it was because they couldn't find the guy she slept with? She was caught in the act, and by the sound of things, by more than one person! Show me a New Testament scriptures that say to judge others! Romans 14: 4 Who are you to judge another man’s servant? To his own Master he stands or falls. Now he will be made to stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. In other words, what right do you have to judge people, surely God, their master will
jsslvr 1 year ago
@jsslvr Well he was gone then, otherwise they would have hauled him along to. No guilty man, no stoning. And I said "judge things" unless you spell people this way "things."
"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" I Corinthians 6:2
"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" I Corinthians 6:3, and "this life" must be referring to now.
KJVBaptistGuy 1 year ago
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@jsslvr John 7:24 (KJV)
'Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.'
GodsOutlaw1964 9 months ago
Either Gipp is a liar or Wilkins lost his voice momentarily. All present saw what happened. GOD knows what happened.
I thought for a second, it might have been a shot at humour on the part of Wilkins, but if so, not a very wise one as it seems to have taken on a life of it's own with all these videos and it has cast doubt on the whole situation. None-the-less, we will all stand before GOD one day. Those who have tried to change HIS Word and those who practice lies will not enter HIS Kindom.
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This whole thing is ridiculous. So Whatif he lost his voice! He lost it MOMENTARILY.
The guy recovered had a drink of water and finished the debate. If this is some how God punishing him as Riplinger has said, I think it would have been a permanent thing to where his voice would have been gone for good. He wouldn't have been able to continue. God had nothing to do with the incident.
gimarr 1 year ago
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gimarr 1 year ago
Yeah, because he got what's called a "frog" in the throat. Everybody gets those.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
PS: What I'd like to know is why it is so important that you cover up the truth and keep this lie going. Is Gail Riplinger paying you to? You need to pray as the Psalmist did: "Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue (Ps. 120:2)." God sees your lying.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
What a liar you are, Sam Gipp. I'd be afraid if I were you. But then you would really have to believe there is a God. In your other video "Sam Gipp talks about "the lost voice"" you admit that Wilkins lost his voice, took a drink of water, then got his voice back. Haven't you EVER heard of this thing called a "frog in one's throat"? You've never had one? Golly, that could be a sign of punishment from God for lying. I have seen all the footage and the entire interview and you are the liar, sir.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
well dr. gipp you claim at 1:09 that "we have the actual segment" how can that be if as you claim at 2:47 "it will never be found. it does not exist" what you show is not what you imply that you have at the beginning. you are at least guilty of demonstrating the "bait and switch" tactic or outright lying to God's people and the world. now what say you? whom shall we trust? you? obviously not!
jarcher1971 2 years ago
Reasons this makes no sense:
1) I don't think Gipp never mentioned this second, taped over incident until the
"frog in throat" footage was released. If what Gipp says was true, he would have mentioned all this before,
2)Why would the KJV folk have laughed during the 2nd taping? Wouldn't they have refused to cooperate with a retaping?
The sad thing is that Gipp probably believes himself. To be a KJV Onlist, you have to be skilled in self-brainwashing as it has no grounding in reality.
MrScooterWolf 2 years ago
Liars get tangled in their own web. Sooner of later their lies will begin to contradict, making it that much more obvious that they are lying.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
No, there is no way on a live shoot that they would stop the tape and tape over a few minutes of tape. That is never done, you are lying.
ObamaJokes 2 years ago
(By malformed inclusions, I'm referring to "it's not in most of the texts, the first textual occurance of this is 300 years later, and it doesn't seem to fit in with scripture so we're putting it in a footnote.) The NKJV sought to correct those obvious translation errors. my question to you is "was Jesus begotten by the father, or was he one of a kind" the greek in John 3:16 which you will no doubt go to, is "monogenes" meaning "one of a kind". That's the greek, and the KJV mistranslates it.
Collidedatoms 2 years ago
just like scripture, we have to interpret what people say in context. what you just posted was technically true, but it's not what Dr. White was obviously trying to convey. you have to show fairness in your interpretations of other people's words especially the words in the bible itself. and Finally just to be clear. I and indeed the rest of us who've studied the topic in any meaningful depth could list hundreds of mistranslations, mistakes, and malformed inclusions in the KJV, (continued again)
Collidedatoms 2 years ago
to everyone on here.... just stop. the thing is that all of you aren't on the same page at all. all I see here is miscommunication. between the arguing parties. and Curvalecce makes a good point. the whole point of other kjv onliests, was that this was a catastrophic failure. in context JW is talking about something more than just "oops, sorry, got a frog in my throat, let me take a drink of water" and when he denies that anyone lost their voice, he's talking about a catastrophe. (continued)
Collidedatoms 2 years ago
It's not "JW", his name is Don Wilkins.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
... No, James White was addressing the issue with Sam Gipp. to be clear, I was saying that Sam Gipp was making a big deal of it as though Don Wilkins had gone mute or something.... he (wilkins) had a frog in his throat if you will. James White then responded to Sam Gipp on the issue, and was saying that no one "went mute" or seriously lost their voice like Sam Gipp was asserting. Also you've not addressed whether Jesus was begotten by the father or is coeternal and is the one of a kind son.
Collidedatoms 2 years ago
Not sure what addressing whether Jesus IS the begotten of the father and coeternal... Jesus Christ, the one and only begotten Son of the Father, and second Person of the triune Godhead, God-man, the firstborn of creation, who before the world was He is...yes, he has always existed as the Son. If you are asking if I believe in the eternal Sonship of Christ, YES. Is He God's Only Son who was God begotten into human flesh? YES.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
Three points:
1) Is depriving a man of his voice for a few minutes really the best the Almighty, the Ancient of Days, can do to show His wrath?
2) Gipp's 'Answer' book has been refuted MANY, MANY TIMES - point by point. Saying it hasn't is just a direct, barefaced lie (Proverbs 19:22)
3) Gipp does his case no good by turning his discussion into a salesman pitch.
Given the KJV mistranslation of 1 Tim 6:10, his actions are doubly indefensible.
curvalecce 2 years ago
Sam Gipp reminds me of a used car salesman.
CautiousSaint 2 years ago
How convenient that the story has now grown to ensure that it can't be disproved.
kuriakos 2 years ago
Brother Gipp, I am not surprised by White's tactics at all, any guy whose ministry is to run around the country "debating" rather than preaching the gospel, is a bit off track anyways. I am anxiously awaiting that new book on daystar website Is Our English Bible Inspired! We need that up here! Keep On! We love you brother and look forward to seeing you and Mrs. Gipp soon.
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redspikerinla 2 years ago