Interesting changes between Eco's book and the movie...Less true to history, but definitely more just from a poetic standpoint. That's Hollywood for you. Oversimplification, thy name is American Pop Culture.
@vrhetinst It's not a Hollywood film, or even an American one. It's a Franco-West German co-production, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. If it were from Hollywood, the girl and the monk would have lived happily ever after and there would no gay friar.
@DefenderOfAllMankind OK, I stand corrected-- but whoever actually made it, this ending still ends on a (slightly) more upbeat note than Eco's original.
Great Movie. I know they had to cut out the sex scene where Sean was with Christian in the bedroom after Christian had sex with the peasant woman and "fell in love' with her.
I read the book today and I really liked it, but, unfortunately, this movie disappointed me. It is not too bad, only it doesn't follow the story truthfully. They made up whole bunch of stuff! They didn't include some people or events, but that's ok, because movie would last like a whole day, but making things up... Nope, sorry.
Not least among the superb cast is the son of the legendary Russian operatic bass Feodor Chaliapin, perhaps the greatest singing actor of the last century. I find it fascinating to imagine that perhaps, in his son's performance here as Jorge, that we may catch a glimpse of his father's dramatic art.
Yeah Ron Pearlman was great! My respect for him grows and grows through the years.
I saw this in the theaters when it first came out and wasn't impressed. I thought it was just a big slam on Christianity.
Now that I'm older, and sadly wiser about the great evil on this earth and the wickedness men are capable of...I found this movie engaging and believable.
@suffiice : the first part of my comment meant ironically, but I recall my first hearing of that Queen song (btw. I hate them and I don't like their music) where Freddie Mercury sings about his coming death due AIDS. At the end I was sobbing.
"Does anybody know what we are living for?"
Do I live my life for accumulating wealth and richness of any kind, for fame, power, for having as much fun as possible? I live my live to give to and get love from human beings. That's all what counts in the end.
@008devlin So sad that, in the original book, he lives a long life after burning Remigio and the girl. Salvatore probably lives, though. Also, the abbot is suffocated/cooked alive at the same time and William dies of the plague.
As for the boy it was a tough one, but i think he made the right decision in leaving the girl. His father back in England wouldnt have had it, he couldnt stay there as he had his duty to return to at home. Plus if he had of stayed with her the monks could of made him trouble for it.
@barnabyfraser In the book, the girl is carted away by Bernard and certainly burned. She must die in accordance with the thematic content of the book, which deals ultimately with the passage (death) of all things, after which all we have are signs to represent them. The author is a professor of signs (semiotics), which is why he cares to make the point. "Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomine nuda tenemus": "All we have of the ideal rose is a name": hence the title of the book/film.
I love this book very, very much, and perhaps it is for this reason that despite the stellar acting and the obvious production values, this movie doesn't work for me. Of course, the script had to narrow down the plot, but in my eyes it over-simplifies it to a degree that makes it unitelligible. If I hadn't read the book I wouldn't know why, just as an example, Malachias is involved in the killings
This is one of my all time favourite films, thankyou so much for posting it. The love of and the need for knowledge and learning is what has made the human race so powerful. I just find it a terrible shame that religion has twisted knowledge and the written word into a weapon, a thing to justify calling other people's ideals 'wrong' and generate persecution in the name of books written centuries and milennia ago. With knowledge does not come wisdom.
@TheDiplococcus -- More innocent people were murdered by Atheists in the past hundred years than in the name of religion in the history of humankind. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Ho-Chi-Min, Pol-Pot, Castro, Kim-IL-Sung, all Atheists. I find it a terrible shame that you are so easily fooled by a flicker show that smears religion. During the entire two hundred years of the Inquisition, an estimated thirty thousand people were murdered, as compared with one hundred million murdered by the former.
@dagable Fair and reasonable point, however you will find that I have made no comparisson between atrocities comitted by those with religious conviction and those without. To state that guns are used to kill people is a simple statement of fact, but it does not ignore the premise that knives, cigarettes, drugs and motor vehicles also kill people. I am in no way attacking relgion, but re-reading my comment I phrased my words badly, so my apologies for any offence. It's the people who misuse
@TheDiplococcus religious ideals that are responsible of course. Atheists use political ideals to the same end, but if I were to mention every motivation... well, it's just not possible. What cannot be doubted is that misuse of religion HAS killed millions over our history, and continues to do so today. As for the Inquisition, if you think in terms of the population in those times, the 30,000 figure becomes far more frightening.
@dagable I get that you are defnding your faith, which is laudable and I will respect you for that for as long as you do not demonstrate blind faith that ignores the facts. Most religious work in modern times is based on compassion. I have never denied that, but it is a base fact that it has also caused suffering and death throughout history as well. You cannot find a blue banana and ignore it's colour because all the others are yellow. Religion kills and religion saves, you can't deny that.
i believe brother william would have been content to spend the rest of his life reading the books in that library! thanks again for posting one of my favorite movies!!!
someday someone in holywood will understand that we are all greeks. And someday they will start making movies about the glory of greece up to 1453 when the name of the rose was finaly left just a name. The barbarians from 470AD started the destruction of the greek miracle.
Sean Connerys greatest role..The character acting in this movie is excellent. A true vision of medieval ignorance and squaller. How many tales of suppression and pain did the Church crush in the name of infallibility. Yet it demonstrates the eternal sacrifice of its humblest members the clergy .And the simple act of love.
Sean Connerys greatest role..The character acting in this movie is excellent. A true vision of medieval ignorance and squaller. How many tales of suppression and pain did the Church crush in the name of infallibility. Yet it demonstrates the eternal sacrifice of its humblest members the clergy .And the imple act of love.
Many thanks for uploading the film. It was a pleasure to watch. And although many praise Eco's masterpiece, this is a good representation of his intent, his love of books and the integrity of this Franciscan Monk--so admirably portrayed by Sean Connery.
Destruction of books is painful to watch, but I comfort myself with the thought that if someone thought about it in the past, then sooner or later someone is going to think about it again. Details may be lost, but not truths about life, philosophy, science, human nature... or laughter.
kathrcs, you're true criminal!!!!...Why cutting it just before the tremendous and chilling Horner's theme repeat during the credits?!..This bundle (that scene PLUS the following credits...to the last note!) is one of the most astoundishing and poignant piece of 7th Art ever, really!..
Many thanks for uploading this movie a bajillion years ago.
Good for Uni students like myself who are far too lazy to make harrowing excursions to the video store or cannot be bothered with signing up for Netflix.
As I always say, time watching Sean Connery is time well spent.
Umberto Eco is known from his anticatholic attitude - he shows that in "The name of the rose" even by appearances of the monks... But unfortunately he presens the then world very well- inquisition, peasants living like animals totally submitted to the church and frightened by its "power", medieval church was pretty much like that one presented in the movie (take away the ugly faces of the monks). This is, among other things, what pope John Paul II apologised for...
@boyito84 well to be fair to bernard gui, he was a lot more humane in his work than the movie portrays him. This image is closer to such inquisitors as conrad vvon Marburg, or robert le bougre from France.
As regards the cast, I don't think there could've been a better choice. Sean Connery was BRILLIANT, and Christian Slater too.
I must say, however, that I was particularly impressed by Ron Perlman, never before realized he is such a great actor. I guess he loved his role very much, otherwise I can't imagine how he acted so convincingly and in a way that made his character fascinating rather than hideous and disgusting.
I am deeply grateful for this movie, I could watch it over and over again!
Now this is a masterpiece! The first time I saw the movie I was about twelve and I was deeply horrified by the scenery and music, even by the grotesque appearance of the monks. And now I find them all just wonderful!
@sclavos Yeah, us poor dumb Americans. Like Europe is any better. You people are more sad then we are these days. At least in America a cop can't just search us for drugs on the street corner wthout cause, or enter our home without a warrant. Nor can they force us to "help with inquiries" if we don't want to help. We aren't any more conservative then you, and you should know it.
@sclavos Yeah seriously. Cause then we wouldn't have crappy things like the internet or computers or cars or electricity. Damn stupid Americans with all their crazy inventions and freedom.
I finished reading the book only 5 hours ago and I must say that I really missed certain scenes in this movie, but it is always so, if you first read the book. But still, I like it very much, Sean Connery's performance was great.
Wow, really? You must be a complete retard to watch this and say, "Hey, that looked great! Let's bring that back in today's day and age!" Because that's pretty much what you're saying. The catholic church is first and foremost a business that operates off your stupid devotion to it.
Okay moron, we're done with this exchange. I will not tolerate guilt trips from the so-called "Jewish" Holocaust. Save your trolling for someone else!
One: I'm not a troll. If anyone is it's you. And second: all I'm saying is that this movie would make any rational person recoil in horror from Catholicism. Obviously, you're not rational.
@phr4nk3rd00d13: This film is based on the Italian novel by Umberto Eco, which is a modern translation of a manuscript in Latin "Le Manuscrit de Dom Adson de Melk". As far as anyone can tell, all of this actually happened as told in the manuscript. This is not just a movie.
@trespire um, no. Not a modern translation of anything: fiction. The novel has a framing device in which it is presented as if it were a found manuscript, but it's historical fiction.
Eco used some real people from history as characters. It's a bit silly the changes the film makes. Bernardo Gui was a real person who did not die by being pushed off a cliff by peasants. Eco was somewhat more careful with keeping history intact.
@phr4nk3rd00d13 It was a plot scene modeled after the loss of The Library of Alexandria. In which, it was recorded, lay the sum total of all the knowledge of the greeks, the romans, the mesopotamian civilization and even many scrolls in hebrew and sanskrit that dated back before 6000 BC. All lost. Perhaps the mathematics, sciences and engineering of the ancients surpassed our own? One such book was found in 2008 however which revealed that Pythagoras, not Newton, first discovered calculus.
@phr4nk3rd00d13 The problem is not that it was lost, but that it was ALL, RANDOMLY, lost: pragmatically, morally and aesthetically, there are relatively few writings that deserve being saved, and the tragedy is that, when destruction arrives, there is no discrimination made concerning what to save and what to let perish.
the movie is based on the book Il Nome della Rosa which is based on the real Adson's manuscript. So we can suppose that the library and the abbey existed. And book is much better than movie.
@phr4nk3rd00d13 Yeah its gutting, although this has actually happened in the past - take all the ancient cities that were razed and looted and the Great library of Alexandria :( Even in the modern day we see museums being looted in wartime like in Iraq..
One of the best classics of all time. With an immensly accurate depiction of both the Monastic Debates and the Inquisitorial powers. As for the question of the name. The rose is an ancient symbol for faith. many orders used it as did inquisitors. The has also been used as a symbol for popes, biships and cardinals. Thank you for the film, It's good to see it again.
Is too much your vanish and your ignorance. It's not an Amrican film.
So it has nothing to do with your hollywood term. Keep your bad language and your bad test for you favorite movies. And no one force you to watch the movie.
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a wonderful book, but what a lame movie. bad-written, bad-acted, bad-directed.. it was just a pain to watch. probably one of the worst ecranisations i've ever seen. yes, they f...ng cought the idea of this nighttime bed reading for little children: it was the girl!.. typical hollywoodshit
Terribly overrated movie, the book is vastly superior to this mediocre movie. Connery's performance is awful as always. He can't play any other but himself. Always the same.
Well... it's not your standard Hollywood film ending, where everything has to be good and happy.
If it had been a hollywood adaption, he would probably have stayed with the girl, and they'd be happy ever after with a load of little kids and everything, to sooth the mind of the general public.
It's been done that way with other good books before.
Pretty good movie, but why did they have to change the book's ending so much? The book's ending is absolutely unbeatable, it just makes sense out of the chaos of the world we are living in. Yet, they changed it to this. I am very disappointed.
Because when people make movies inspired by books they change stuff. There isn't any point to making something that is already made. Creative people tend to do things their own way. Thats why they say "based on.." Not an acted out carbon copy". Sorry, but I always get annoyed by people who want what they read with no changes. If you want to re experience the book, just reread it. You can envision the characters in your mind better then any casting. Remakes re-make.
My problem is that they changed the ending to something clearly inferior. If the movie wants to be creative, there are other things that can be changed, it doesn't have to be the incredible ending. The same goes for Kafka's "The Trial", the same goes for here.
Just to illustrate my point further: In the classic movie "Planet of the Apes", the book's ending was changed too. But the new ending was brilliant and most people liked it (me too). So it's not about change or not, it's about whether there are new brilliant ideas to be added. If there are no new brilliant ideas, there is no point (art wise) to change anything.
Elegabalus; You have attacked everyone who doesn't share your opinion of religion. No one has attacked you or your opinion, maybe you should start giving others the same respect.
I can so understand William. I too would want to save each and every single book and manuscript in that tower. Not necessarily for their content but for the beautiful artwork of the illuminators.
Absolutely crestfallen- I have watched this movie dozens of times, and I never cease to be, saddened, chilled, relieved (that she lived), and a host of other emotions provoked by Adso's decision, and his confession of the lifelong splinter that girl left in his heart and mind. I think she is the utterly, completely, singular "human" aspect of this film. Who knows but without her in his heart the narration would have a much different tone? Regardless- great movie with lasting emotional punch.
always follow the rats
artygunnar 3 days ago
THANKS YOU FOR UPLOADING THIS MOVIE ! ONE OF MY FAVORITES ONES...
XForte26 6 days ago
Awesome story!!!
Uriahsgrandma 2 weeks ago
that scene when william is left to die broke my heart completely
gfdgf2 3 weeks ago 2
did not expect that gory ending!!
Mssinead 4 weeks ago
I've seen this film three times now and loved it each time.
newgeorge 2 months ago
Interesting changes between Eco's book and the movie...Less true to history, but definitely more just from a poetic standpoint. That's Hollywood for you. Oversimplification, thy name is American Pop Culture.
vrhetinst 2 months ago 3
@vrhetinst It's not a Hollywood film, or even an American one. It's a Franco-West German co-production, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. If it were from Hollywood, the girl and the monk would have lived happily ever after and there would no gay friar.
DefenderOfAllMankind 2 months ago 6
@DefenderOfAllMankind OK, I stand corrected-- but whoever actually made it, this ending still ends on a (slightly) more upbeat note than Eco's original.
vrhetinst 2 months ago
3rd book of Aristotle's Poetics is about Zombie Films..
ZwolfZki 2 months ago
"Master you're alive!" "I can't die you fool, I'm immortal!"
MrTheoriginalderek 3 months ago
Great Movie. I know they had to cut out the sex scene where Sean was with Christian in the bedroom after Christian had sex with the peasant woman and "fell in love' with her.
phillipcullen 3 months ago
Connery is the man.
squamish4244 3 months ago
What a amazing movie.
IIIJFRIII 4 months ago
i like the movies better than the books because you can't spill coffee on them.
gyreenedoc 4 months ago
@gyreenedoc yes you can :/
newgeorge 2 months ago
Awesome movie, didn't know about this one and am glad to have seen it!
andy7666 5 months ago
I read the book today and I really liked it, but, unfortunately, this movie disappointed me. It is not too bad, only it doesn't follow the story truthfully. They made up whole bunch of stuff! They didn't include some people or events, but that's ok, because movie would last like a whole day, but making things up... Nope, sorry.
Baby1234Blue 5 months ago
Not least among the superb cast is the son of the legendary Russian operatic bass Feodor Chaliapin, perhaps the greatest singing actor of the last century. I find it fascinating to imagine that perhaps, in his son's performance here as Jorge, that we may catch a glimpse of his father's dramatic art.
jdengles 5 months ago
Yeah Ron Pearlman was great! My respect for him grows and grows through the years.
I saw this in the theaters when it first came out and wasn't impressed. I thought it was just a big slam on Christianity.
Now that I'm older, and sadly wiser about the great evil on this earth and the wickedness men are capable of...I found this movie engaging and believable.
Thanks for posting this!
JephyrX 6 months ago
@ModifiedEvelyn how naiive
suffiice 7 months ago
@suffiice : the first part of my comment meant ironically, but I recall my first hearing of that Queen song (btw. I hate them and I don't like their music) where Freddie Mercury sings about his coming death due AIDS. At the end I was sobbing.
"Does anybody know what we are living for?"
Do I live my life for accumulating wealth and richness of any kind, for fame, power, for having as much fun as possible? I live my live to give to and get love from human beings. That's all what counts in the end.
MrBaebel 7 months ago
sean connery as a friar not a monk
54lsh 7 months ago
@008devlin So sad that, in the original book, he lives a long life after burning Remigio and the girl. Salvatore probably lives, though. Also, the abbot is suffocated/cooked alive at the same time and William dies of the plague.
dhicks3 8 months ago
Indignez-vous!
haranoe 8 months ago
As for the boy it was a tough one, but i think he made the right decision in leaving the girl. His father back in England wouldnt have had it, he couldnt stay there as he had his duty to return to at home. Plus if he had of stayed with her the monks could of made him trouble for it.
Good historical film though.
barnabyfraser 9 months ago
@barnabyfraser In the book, the girl is carted away by Bernard and certainly burned. She must die in accordance with the thematic content of the book, which deals ultimately with the passage (death) of all things, after which all we have are signs to represent them. The author is a professor of signs (semiotics), which is why he cares to make the point. "Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomine nuda tenemus": "All we have of the ideal rose is a name": hence the title of the book/film.
dhicks3 8 months ago
I really feel for Brother William and the books, all that knowledge and history.
barnabyfraser 9 months ago
I love this book very, very much, and perhaps it is for this reason that despite the stellar acting and the obvious production values, this movie doesn't work for me. Of course, the script had to narrow down the plot, but in my eyes it over-simplifies it to a degree that makes it unitelligible. If I hadn't read the book I wouldn't know why, just as an example, Malachias is involved in the killings
coffeepie 9 months ago
O quam salubre, quam juqundum et suave est sedere in solitudine et tacere et loqui cum Deo!
Gott ist ein lautes Nichts ihn rührt kein Nun noch Hier...
Stat rosa pristina nominae, nominae nuda tenemus.
dark1secret 10 months ago
This is one of my all time favourite films, thankyou so much for posting it. The love of and the need for knowledge and learning is what has made the human race so powerful. I just find it a terrible shame that religion has twisted knowledge and the written word into a weapon, a thing to justify calling other people's ideals 'wrong' and generate persecution in the name of books written centuries and milennia ago. With knowledge does not come wisdom.
TheDiplococcus 11 months ago 3
@TheDiplococcus -- More innocent people were murdered by Atheists in the past hundred years than in the name of religion in the history of humankind. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Ho-Chi-Min, Pol-Pot, Castro, Kim-IL-Sung, all Atheists. I find it a terrible shame that you are so easily fooled by a flicker show that smears religion. During the entire two hundred years of the Inquisition, an estimated thirty thousand people were murdered, as compared with one hundred million murdered by the former.
dagable 6 months ago
@dagable Fair and reasonable point, however you will find that I have made no comparisson between atrocities comitted by those with religious conviction and those without. To state that guns are used to kill people is a simple statement of fact, but it does not ignore the premise that knives, cigarettes, drugs and motor vehicles also kill people. I am in no way attacking relgion, but re-reading my comment I phrased my words badly, so my apologies for any offence. It's the people who misuse
TheDiplococcus 6 months ago
@TheDiplococcus religious ideals that are responsible of course. Atheists use political ideals to the same end, but if I were to mention every motivation... well, it's just not possible. What cannot be doubted is that misuse of religion HAS killed millions over our history, and continues to do so today. As for the Inquisition, if you think in terms of the population in those times, the 30,000 figure becomes far more frightening.
TheDiplococcus 6 months ago
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dagable 6 months ago
@dagable Islam does not support violence either no need to promote bad feelings.
hanewolf 6 months ago
@hanewolf -- Nice sentiment, but u may want to come down and visit Earth...the weather's nice down here.
dagable 6 months ago
@hanewolf Islam is violence!
siliyemoodislam 4 months ago
@siliyemoodislam and Catholic church is not?
truvianni 4 weeks ago
@dagable I get that you are defnding your faith, which is laudable and I will respect you for that for as long as you do not demonstrate blind faith that ignores the facts. Most religious work in modern times is based on compassion. I have never denied that, but it is a base fact that it has also caused suffering and death throughout history as well. You cannot find a blue banana and ignore it's colour because all the others are yellow. Religion kills and religion saves, you can't deny that.
TheDiplococcus 6 months ago
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dagable 6 months ago
i believe brother william would have been content to spend the rest of his life reading the books in that library! thanks again for posting one of my favorite movies!!!
omega311888 11 months ago
@omega311888
I would be content to spend my life reading books in libraries myself.
PiperFreeze06 8 months ago
@PiperFreeze06 oh i totally agree!!
omega311888 8 months ago
oh salieri why
MrCachorro13 1 year ago 11
@MrCachorro13
hihi
coffeepie 9 months ago
someday someone in holywood will understand that we are all greeks. And someday they will start making movies about the glory of greece up to 1453 when the name of the rose was finaly left just a name. The barbarians from 470AD started the destruction of the greek miracle.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
Now I know how they kept warm-by setting each other on fire
sommnambulist 1 year ago
@sommnambulist Now I know how you make a living. Not being a comedian.
ElephantRage 1 year ago
bernardo gui died ! HUREY!
RomanSedlak 1 year ago
does the book ever say why William and Adso parts way at the end?
Imabeth 1 year ago
@Imabeth william had some important dutys and adso had to go back to his church in melk, austria,
because his father said so
ischaunur1 1 year ago
SALVA NOS .
JW6QAB091 1 year ago
at 3:18 the best scene in the movie lol..
gpvx2007 1 year ago
brilliant movie, ty... 4,5 years since I watched this the last time.
Klonkii 1 year ago
dam checking out by being burned at the stake would suck.
jchem 1 year ago
fantastic movie my philosophy proffessor recommended it and it was well worth watching thanks for uploading the whole movie
bfy52 1 year ago
@bfy52
Your with Garcia ! :)
gavinm777 1 year ago
@gavinm777 lol yes :)
bfy52 1 year ago
Sean Connery´s come a long way since his days as James Bond...from the ridiculous to the sublime. Thank you for this.
TheRetro60s 1 year ago
Sean Connerys greatest role..The character acting in this movie is excellent. A true vision of medieval ignorance and squaller. How many tales of suppression and pain did the Church crush in the name of infallibility. Yet it demonstrates the eternal sacrifice of its humblest members the clergy .And the simple act of love.
fusionfire451 1 year ago 14
Sean Connerys greatest role..The character acting in this movie is excellent. A true vision of medieval ignorance and squaller. How many tales of suppression and pain did the Church crush in the name of infallibility. Yet it demonstrates the eternal sacrifice of its humblest members the clergy .And the imple act of love.
fusionfire451 1 year ago
Many thanks for uploading the film. It was a pleasure to watch. And although many praise Eco's masterpiece, this is a good representation of his intent, his love of books and the integrity of this Franciscan Monk--so admirably portrayed by Sean Connery.
PoliticalPars 1 year ago
i fell in love with the final confession. beautiful movie! bellissimo!
teyni11 1 year ago
i fell in love with the final confession.
teyni11 1 year ago
Destruction of books is painful to watch, but I comfort myself with the thought that if someone thought about it in the past, then sooner or later someone is going to think about it again. Details may be lost, but not truths about life, philosophy, science, human nature... or laughter.
kragary 1 year ago
AWESOME !! thank you very much for uploading this mov
zenku41 1 year ago
Tx for uploading ..
MiraginXXX 1 year ago
Thank you for putting these up, I actually quite enjoyed the movie !! Great seeing lil' Christian Slater, and Sean Connery is always good....
RivalTalent 1 year ago
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kathrcs, you're true criminal!!!!...Why cutting it just before the tremendous and chilling Horner's theme repeat during the credits?!..This bundle (that scene PLUS the following credits...to the last note!) is one of the most astoundishing and poignant piece of 7th Art ever, really!..
Mitchosaure 1 year ago
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cluedo1 1 year ago
Many thanks for uploading this movie a bajillion years ago.
Good for Uni students like myself who are far too lazy to make harrowing excursions to the video store or cannot be bothered with signing up for Netflix.
As I always say, time watching Sean Connery is time well spent.
berzerker16 1 year ago
sean connery, ian mckellen, tom hanks.... all these acting greats really makes movie going a joy... god bless them
allblacks4729 1 year ago
Umberto Eco is known from his anticatholic attitude - he shows that in "The name of the rose" even by appearances of the monks... But unfortunately he presens the then world very well- inquisition, peasants living like animals totally submitted to the church and frightened by its "power", medieval church was pretty much like that one presented in the movie (take away the ugly faces of the monks). This is, among other things, what pope John Paul II apologised for...
boyito84 1 year ago 3
@boyito84 well to be fair to the historical Bernard gui, he was a lot more human than presented than in this movie.
This is more closer to such grotesque figures as conrad von Marburg or robert le bougre from France, whose cruelty returned into their own faces
mudjinga 1 year ago
@boyito84 well to be fair to bernard gui, he was a lot more humane in his work than the movie portrays him. This image is closer to such inquisitors as conrad vvon Marburg, or robert le bougre from France.
mudjinga 1 year ago
"She was the only earthly love of my life...
Yet, i never knew, nor ever learned her name..."
OccultAid 1 year ago
@OccultAid I KNOW! That's like the most amazing phrase in the movie, i loved it.
morom90 1 year ago
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i think we should all go out and kill a christian. lets make society better.
666alikat 2 years ago
@666alikat You racist piece of shit
EvilGamer100 1 year ago
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LOL christians are a race? wow. ... christians just get dumber and dumber by the day.
666alikat 1 year ago
@666alikat mostly in the USA
caradeescusado 1 year ago
As regards the cast, I don't think there could've been a better choice. Sean Connery was BRILLIANT, and Christian Slater too.
I must say, however, that I was particularly impressed by Ron Perlman, never before realized he is such a great actor. I guess he loved his role very much, otherwise I can't imagine how he acted so convincingly and in a way that made his character fascinating rather than hideous and disgusting.
I am deeply grateful for this movie, I could watch it over and over again!
meYry12thofMay87 2 years ago 42
@meYry12thofMay87 Got to see Perlman in "Quest for fire". Another great performance.
stah1973 1 year ago
@meYry12thofMay87 well said!
omega311888 11 months ago
Now this is a masterpiece! The first time I saw the movie I was about twelve and I was deeply horrified by the scenery and music, even by the grotesque appearance of the monks. And now I find them all just wonderful!
meYry12thofMay87 2 years ago 8
@meYry12thofMay87 I agree 100% with you and the ending is heartbreaking
nieto1992 4 months ago
Interesting choice he made in the end.
Thank you for uploading. I enjoyed the movie very much. :)
bedimpled215 2 years ago 7
How ridiculous, they even cut out the sex scene
America can kill thousands of barefoot people, but they can't stand the image of a couple fu**ing
Poor morons. Greets from Europe. We should never have exported our lowest and least intelligent population overseas.
sclavos 2 years ago 3
@sclavos Yeah, us poor dumb Americans. Like Europe is any better. You people are more sad then we are these days. At least in America a cop can't just search us for drugs on the street corner wthout cause, or enter our home without a warrant. Nor can they force us to "help with inquiries" if we don't want to help. We aren't any more conservative then you, and you should know it.
lollipopfop 2 years ago
@sclavos Yeah seriously. Cause then we wouldn't have crappy things like the internet or computers or cars or electricity. Damn stupid Americans with all their crazy inventions and freedom.
blahtube457 1 year ago 2
He never knew the girls name.... the girls name is Valentina Vargas XD
1965lo 2 years ago
I finished reading the book only 5 hours ago and I must say that I really missed certain scenes in this movie, but it is always so, if you first read the book. But still, I like it very much, Sean Connery's performance was great.
Josephine476 2 years ago 4
Where were the out door scenes filmed?
davidperi 2 years ago
wow I really didnt understand half this movie... lol.
thewirefield 2 years ago
What they did with 6th part is just ridiculous. Great movie, already watched few times. Thanks a lot for uploading.
eIemeIek 2 years ago
railroadwino is right on this one: The Catholic church stagnated evolution for a thousand years.
This movie shows a sad chapter of history, I don't know how anyone could find this could inspire a commitment to catholicism.
Smokeyg1972 2 years ago
NEW FAVORITE! this movie was amazing. Sean Connery makes an awesome monk! Wow what a great movie, thanks for uploading this
TheBradBranch 2 years ago 5
Great movie. It's so rare to see films about the Catholic Church. Despite this film, it does inspire commitment to Catholicism.
DEREKinNYC 2 years ago 2
Wow, really? You must be a complete retard to watch this and say, "Hey, that looked great! Let's bring that back in today's day and age!" Because that's pretty much what you're saying. The catholic church is first and foremost a business that operates off your stupid devotion to it.
railroadwino 2 years ago
Yeah, really! And millions of Catholics worldwide live very good lives following the Catholic faith who agree with me.
DEREKinNYC 2 years ago
Oh, so Catholics support the Catholic church? What a mindfuck that is!
Did you watch Schindler's List and then use it to justify your interest in nazism?
railroadwino 2 years ago
Okay moron, we're done with this exchange. I will not tolerate guilt trips from the so-called "Jewish" Holocaust. Save your trolling for someone else!
DEREKinNYC 2 years ago
One: I'm not a troll. If anyone is it's you. And second: all I'm saying is that this movie would make any rational person recoil in horror from Catholicism. Obviously, you're not rational.
Try and wrap your feeble mind around that.
railroadwino 2 years ago
@DEREKinNYC
Idiot.
DogsAreMyLife 2 years ago
You are being ironic, aren't you, otherwise I will think you are an idiot.
roboto70 2 years ago
all the knowledge in those books lost. even though it is not real just a movie it's still a tragedy
phr4nk3rd00d13 2 years ago 46
@phr4nk3rd00d13: This film is based on the Italian novel by Umberto Eco, which is a modern translation of a manuscript in Latin "Le Manuscrit de Dom Adson de Melk". As far as anyone can tell, all of this actually happened as told in the manuscript. This is not just a movie.
Recomend reading the book, it's a great read.
trespire 1 year ago
@trespire um, no. Not a modern translation of anything: fiction. The novel has a framing device in which it is presented as if it were a found manuscript, but it's historical fiction.
Eco used some real people from history as characters. It's a bit silly the changes the film makes. Bernardo Gui was a real person who did not die by being pushed off a cliff by peasants. Eco was somewhat more careful with keeping history intact.
zipperx 1 year ago 3
@phr4nk3rd00d13 It was a plot scene modeled after the loss of The Library of Alexandria. In which, it was recorded, lay the sum total of all the knowledge of the greeks, the romans, the mesopotamian civilization and even many scrolls in hebrew and sanskrit that dated back before 6000 BC. All lost. Perhaps the mathematics, sciences and engineering of the ancients surpassed our own? One such book was found in 2008 however which revealed that Pythagoras, not Newton, first discovered calculus.
lastmiles 1 year ago
@phr4nk3rd00d13 The problem is not that it was lost, but that it was ALL, RANDOMLY, lost: pragmatically, morally and aesthetically, there are relatively few writings that deserve being saved, and the tragedy is that, when destruction arrives, there is no discrimination made concerning what to save and what to let perish.
haranoe 8 months ago
@phr4nk3rd00d13
the movie is based on the book Il Nome della Rosa which is based on the real Adson's manuscript. So we can suppose that the library and the abbey existed. And book is much better than movie.
88heartbreaking88 7 months ago
@88heartbreaking88 the book is a novel
elenore88 7 months ago
@phr4nk3rd00d13 Yeah its gutting, although this has actually happened in the past - take all the ancient cities that were razed and looted and the Great library of Alexandria :( Even in the modern day we see museums being looted in wartime like in Iraq..
andy7666 5 months ago
I think that he made the right choise.
Othervise the rest of his life would be like in PRISON!!
tyngel2 2 years ago
Thank you so much for uploading this, it's the first time I've seen this movie, epic stuff.
dlgsag 2 years ago 4
2:07 Great moment. Connery is one of the few male actors that can cry convincingly.
prorokini 2 years ago 3
Thank you for the upload - classic film - I enjoyed watching this again. :)
SameStars 2 years ago 5
I would have stayed and fucked the whole day.
Barbituranek 2 years ago
hahaha
representing26 2 years ago
One of the best classics of all time. With an immensly accurate depiction of both the Monastic Debates and the Inquisitorial powers. As for the question of the name. The rose is an ancient symbol for faith. many orders used it as did inquisitors. The has also been used as a symbol for popes, biships and cardinals. Thank you for the film, It's good to see it again.
TheTekMode 2 years ago 3
This comment is for ArielType:
Is too much your vanish and your ignorance. It's not an Amrican film.
So it has nothing to do with your hollywood term. Keep your bad language and your bad test for you favorite movies. And no one force you to watch the movie.
artnovuveau 2 years ago 4
The girl dies in the book,or its at least implied as she doesnt appear again after being condemned
noirgris0 2 years ago 2
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a wonderful book, but what a lame movie. bad-written, bad-acted, bad-directed.. it was just a pain to watch. probably one of the worst ecranisations i've ever seen. yes, they f...ng cought the idea of this nighttime bed reading for little children: it was the girl!.. typical hollywoodshit
ArielType 2 years ago
i have a question. why this film is called "le nome de la rose"? , from where is this name?
olimprko 2 years ago
the girl is the rose.
Holowachuk 2 years ago
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Terribly overrated movie, the book is vastly superior to this mediocre movie. Connery's performance is awful as always. He can't play any other but himself. Always the same.
pagrati007 2 years ago
Sometimes this works. Humphrey Bogart, anyone?
Sometimes it doesn't. Shia Lebeouf, please die in a fire.
jamaicanlager 2 years ago
Nice to see sean without trademark hairpiece for once!
joeyansorge 2 years ago
the ending was so sad
theseusoberon 2 years ago 6
So is real live buddy
Dekiekkepreuten 2 years ago
Well... it's not your standard Hollywood film ending, where everything has to be good and happy.
If it had been a hollywood adaption, he would probably have stayed with the girl, and they'd be happy ever after with a load of little kids and everything, to sooth the mind of the general public.
It's been done that way with other good books before.
'The Name of the Rose' is an epic good book.
RuudJH 2 years ago 5
Give me a Break Dude!
Hollywood is so into "Unhappy Ending"
so what you are saying is stupid
Its time Hollywood make movies with good ending that can give you hope and good!
because the real life is bad enough anyway!
we don't need it in the movies too you know!
jaguar4u2 2 years ago
jaguar, you are an idiot.
roboto70 2 years ago
you are the Idiot
jaguar4u2 2 years ago
Happy endings are sooo boring.. And why are you so desperate for hope and good? I love it when a mocie is realistic and raw..
dirkschuitsma 2 years ago
Sometimes the movie must have unhappy ending for the Moral!
like Romeo & Juliet it is realy sad but beautiful!
but there are movies that are just dipressing by being so hopless, Evil or Cruel!
jaguar4u2 2 years ago
Thanks so much for uploading! Apparently the net is the only place I could find this! Urgh
enigmagatsby1 2 years ago 4
use to be able to rent it on VHS, lol
mard420 2 years ago
Pretty good movie, but why did they have to change the book's ending so much? The book's ending is absolutely unbeatable, it just makes sense out of the chaos of the world we are living in. Yet, they changed it to this. I am very disappointed.
Wonkosart 2 years ago
Because when people make movies inspired by books they change stuff. There isn't any point to making something that is already made. Creative people tend to do things their own way. Thats why they say "based on.." Not an acted out carbon copy". Sorry, but I always get annoyed by people who want what they read with no changes. If you want to re experience the book, just reread it. You can envision the characters in your mind better then any casting. Remakes re-make.
lollipopfop 2 years ago 3
My problem is that they changed the ending to something clearly inferior. If the movie wants to be creative, there are other things that can be changed, it doesn't have to be the incredible ending. The same goes for Kafka's "The Trial", the same goes for here.
Wonkosart 2 years ago 4
Just to illustrate my point further: In the classic movie "Planet of the Apes", the book's ending was changed too. But the new ending was brilliant and most people liked it (me too). So it's not about change or not, it's about whether there are new brilliant ideas to be added. If there are no new brilliant ideas, there is no point (art wise) to change anything.
Wonkosart 2 years ago 2
Having never read the book, I can see the point of this ending. It has an insightful meaning and I can recognize the themes.
wardlemike 2 years ago
Thanks for uploading :-)
1985223 2 years ago 3
He never knew the girls name....should have looked at the credits.
Grimlythedwarf 3 years ago 2
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Religion............ YUK!
WeirdGirlPhotography 3 years ago
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Morons luck you........YUK!
Elegabalus 2 years ago
Elegabalus; You have attacked everyone who doesn't share your opinion of religion. No one has attacked you or your opinion, maybe you should start giving others the same respect.
lollipopfop 2 years ago
Now is the time to mount an attack upon him.
jamaicanlager 2 years ago
I can so understand William. I too would want to save each and every single book and manuscript in that tower. Not necessarily for their content but for the beautiful artwork of the illuminators.
dcbsmt 3 years ago 3
the end of this film breaks my heart. I would like to think I would have had the courage to go back.
fancyflier 3 years ago 6
It was a tough choice for Adso - to serve God, as he originally wished, or to love the girl... I guess he could not really choose what was greater.
MoonchildMindaugasRo 3 years ago
It is the best ending since Casablanca
Drwhofan1971 3 years ago 2
yeah.. 'we'll always have paris.'
kathrcs 3 years ago
The ending definitely makes this movie what it is. It still provokes the same feelings I first expressed when i first saw this.
crestfallen999 3 years ago 2
Absolutely crestfallen- I have watched this movie dozens of times, and I never cease to be, saddened, chilled, relieved (that she lived), and a host of other emotions provoked by Adso's decision, and his confession of the lifelong splinter that girl left in his heart and mind. I think she is the utterly, completely, singular "human" aspect of this film. Who knows but without her in his heart the narration would have a much different tone? Regardless- great movie with lasting emotional punch.
jimmykicker7775 2 years ago 3
Very true.
ruzbehan 3 years ago 3
what an ugly time the inquisition was for christianity
bobtommsncom 3 years ago 10