Please people if you want to know about ECT talk to a trained health care professional. DO NOT WATCH VIDEOS AND READ THINGS ON THE INTERNET TO BASE UR OPINION. Remember anybody can put anything on the internet, talk to someone who went to university and has an actual job in the mental health or health care field. ECT does not work for everyone and different people have different reactions talk to a docter not random people on the internet.
i study nursing and we had a patient who she had deep depression and nothing could help the young women, she was like feeling as a robot, and could not have feeling over her small children. She got ECT and after 2 ect she got much much better!!! it was unbelievely.
Ongoing depression is often an appropriate symptom of a deeper issue. Health professionals are usually focused on trying to eliminate the symptom, while not addressing its cause. Humans are not merely physical bodies, therefore proper treatment cannot be limited to physical solutions such as pills, ECT, or so on. For example, if a person thinks and believes lies, it can result in hopelessness which will then do them in. A person has to know and believe the truth, not just their own opinions.
@fluffythebear Yes i am currently doing ect and am about 5 or 6 treatments in out of a suggested 9 unilateral( one side of the brain) then they re evaluate. So far only grogginess right after, i go home and nap for a couple hours, you may get some soreness and stiffness in strange places because ur entire body has a seisure but its not major also there is some memory loss the more treatments you have, it seems to effect each person differently,its not a destroyer of lives.
@erikz853 Who are you to say that ECT destroys lives and should be outlawed completly, because it did not work for you does not mean it doesnt work other people. I started ect this week and have had no problems except for groggy ness the day of which is to be expected, i highly doubt that ECT made you "nonfunctionable" and unable to remember the simpliest things, it does come with some memory loss but it all but rare cases is not permanent.A lengthy time with depression far outweighs not trying.
@logeezie876 You're doing ECT? My psych wants me to consider it, but my gf is dead set against me having it. So you mentioned your only "major" side effect so far is grogginess? Do you get a headache after treatment?
I mean the successes of psychology are pretty shite, its not hard to do brain damage all you need to do is get some1 to down wiskey or vodka. If you are worried about it exaggerating your mood do it when ur happy, and if you get depressed or anything immediately go to bed and fall asleep. This will be less harmful for your brain and save you lots of money. I am not responsible for what happens if you carry out anything I said.
I hardly call raw facts vile language, I mean the only form in which I will consider scientists is in mad evil scientists. They have made over a million zombies out of living people using psychiatric drugs, and thousands of frankensteins using psychosurgery. If you consider making frankensteins good, then I do not share the same definition of good with you. Psychologists are like the witches of old who sold poisons.
@XavierAtriedes that made absolutey no sense, if you want raw facts how is this, 1 in 10,000 that get the procedure die and it is because of an anesthetic overdose, more people die from anesthetic overdoses in procedures than in faults with the operation itself and psychiatry has helped more people than it hasnt yes there are flaws but i hope you realize everything has flaws and i wouldnt consider millions of people zombies because neither you nor i know that many people in the first place
Don't hire some one to hit you over the head with a sledgehammer or any object (I am not responsible if you do). In fact protect your brain if possible. Say no to psychiatry and fraud.
I do not understand such over the top and vulgar language being used to discuss ECT.. I was treated with ECT seventeen times over a period of years. I agreed to do it because I had no other choice. ECT or suicide. I was last treated in 2005. It was tremendously beneficial. I had no side effects whatsoever. C. Jones
@XavierAtriedes oh one more thing to this please research where the money actually goes... its mostly health insurance and where im from if needed the hospitals actually pay for it completely so please realize your filling peoples minds with your shitty opinions not facts
It doesn't happen all the time. But it is very strange. Again, I am rational, so I can work through it. I have never heard anyone talk about this memory effect, but then I have never talked about ECT to anyone. In the hospital I was the only one to accept ECT. Everyone warned me against but I did it because I was going to kill myself. The other patients were very surprised when I would come back from treatment and eat breakfast and just go about my day. I stayed in the hospital for my treatment.
What I mean by remembering things twice is like this: Say I go out and talk to the mail man about a new paper article and while talking he drops a letter. Once I get in the house my mind tells me that the exact same thing happened before, like last week. But I realize that is impossible because today we talked about a news paper and how could we talk about a news paper article before it came out. Were I not able to rationalize the memory I can see how it could make trouble. Paranoia perhaps?
@kozmums Most likely not. What is forgotten are event, but when my brain is in the throws of bipolar extremes I don't remember anything in that state either. What helped me the most was spending 2 months in the mental hospital, (behavioral facility) It taught me a lot and how to slow the fuck down. Now that I am home I do things very slowly, and I find not much really matters the way I thought it did. People don't get this, they don't get how I enjoy being somewhat of a recluse.
@kozmums So any way I leaned to slow like down. Like I actually go the beach when I don't think I should. I also pray and talk to God through the day as much as I can. I just gave my life to him. Those to things, slowing down and praying and talking to God I believe have made me whole. However, l am not perfect. The ECT did effect my memory, but so does the bipolarism. One very strange side effect from the ECT on my memory is that at times I seem to remember things twice.
@angelamariapreuss: wow, you are very brave taking this treatment. I can belive that help some people. Always interest in this cause is so much talk about it like it is very scary thing. I just wanted to see it for myself how this work for people today cause just came in news here in Norway that a woman just tryed ECT because of her depression and look like see was like more happyer after. Before treatment she didnt smile or anything, Very deeeep depressed. So hope this make you better too :)
ECT is an extremely effective treatment for certain types of depression. As long as it is not the firstline treatment and the patient is aware of the potential for permanent cognitive deficits and memoryloss and has the choice not to undergo the procedure, then the use of it is cetainly warranted.
Looks like brainwashing to me. I recently decided to get off of drugs for my clinical depression. Im just starting to feel like myself again, I had never tried to take my life until being on the drugs that the doctor gave me. Im concentrating on a healthy diet, active lifestyle and being sure to do at least one thing that makes me happy a day. I know every case and person is different, but this is what has been working for me. Its the processed food and flouridated water...
@GoGadgetHookerClean What you are doing sounds like a good step towards feeling better, but not everybody can get off medication and do that. I have drug resistant major depressive disorder and I am in the middle of doing 12 ECT. I am on number 8 tomorrow. This is not brainwashing, it is a desperate measure that saves the lives of many people, and although I don't feel all that better yet, I have hope that this will prove to be effective. The only other option for me is an early grave.
I had no idea it looks like this... I went into electroconvulsive therapy like a year ago, I suffered severe depression due to a break in a relationship followed by the the death of my father. I looked for some help since suicidal ideas came to me frecuently... I admit that I have set new goals in my life, the strong depression is gone but suicide is still a vague idea. This treatmeant may help you, but you have to acknowledge what you're going trough!
They don't last forever, unfortunately. My mum has to have them once every 2 years, sometimes 1 year, there were other factors that resulted in it though, she didn't take her medication all the time. Been going strong for about 6 months so far.
I will say that this has saved her life multiple times
i only wish theyd emphasized more about how BAD the memory loss can b,i recieved4from1dr.,after a wile they suggested i get more-i had2c a diff. dr. an recieved17more. after(few yrs.ish)it was hard to retain info4learning new jobs,i dont remember certain things from my long-term memory-even seein pix n vids,i dont remember a greenday concert i went2This may b beneficial4some ppl. but i wish i had not gotten any.I HATE my memory loss! the short-term loss is SO frustrating!but im doing well now=)
No one is ever going to convince me that ECT is either safe or effective. I just watched a fragment of a Nazi "medical" video of a "doctor" performing ect. ECT was very popular in Nazi asylums, and also was proposed as a cheap way of killing "useless mouths". If anyone wants a link to that vid message me, it depicts ect and the resulting convulsions.
yahoo! don't knock it till you've tried it! dh severly depressed for 8 months, zombie staring at the TV with no sound etc, wouldnt talk to even his mother or best friend, tried all the drugs! no help! first treatment friday, he started chatting on the way hom and commented on a camper show along the way! WoW! got hom he said he felt better already and hoped it wasn't the anesthia and wouldnt wear off! ps i would love to lose my memory for the last 8 months! : (
@2010ezekiel That which is alive reacts to external stimulus, That which reacts feels pain. Pain is proof of life, and if you block pain you are not living your life. Embrace your pain, and react. Live!
@PersiansAreNotArabs Ur a jack ass. when someones heart goes haywire and someone else attatches an AED machine guess what happens? THEY GET SHOCKED! It stops the heart and for reasons unknown to medical science the heart sometimes re-starts normally. stop living off your horror movie logic! People that are crippled with severe depression have a 70-something success rate with 12 sessions of REAL ECT!!! And guess what else. Everyone that goes through this is on enough tranqs to take down a horse!
max fink needs to be investigated, see how he works in with pharmaceutical companies and wants to be recognised as the best in his field, electricshocktherapy.info
Psychiatry was developed before 1900 in Germany to get rid of people complaining.First use of directed energy weapons can be seen in psychiatric literature from 1908, see Psychiatrie->Zur Klinik der Narkolepsie on my homepage.After murdering oponents in ww2,Psychiatry was relaunched in´45 to persecute+silence concentration camp survivors.
As a Doctor in a German nuthouse said:
Half the inmates are mad.The other half are secret service agents on training.
@ectdf1975 It's their choice to do it. You don't feel any pain and it only lasts about 40 seconds. My dad had it done and he says he felt better after the first procedure and hasn't felt this good since he was 14. That's a miracle to me.
@ectdf1975 You strike me as the type who would rather see someone wallow in their own misery for years until finally they die a bloody death on their bathroom floor at their own hands.
I worked in a psych unit near Chicago for almost 10 years. They did ECT on MWF. We had a guy come in with no insurance, so he couldn't stay long. Dr. So-and-so decided it would be a good idea to give him 2 treatments/day. The patient soon went to a medical floor after exhibiting some of the most BIZARRE behavior I've ever seen. I wonder what ever happened to him... or Dr. So-and-so
I work as a psyche RN and I can telll you ECT saves lives; Bipolar Depression is a most intransient form of depression, and aproximately 20% of people with Bipolar Disorder will in the end committ suicide; Kurt Cobain, Sylvia Plath, the poet Robert Berryman are some famous people who lost the battle with depression; granted, the treatment appears crude, and in a way is, but untill they find better treatment it is all we have to save people who are resistant to antidepressants or Lithium.
@teelanes2u I'm not bipolar, I hav cronic depression and attention deffict disorder. My doctor has been talking about ect. U think it'd work? most of the ppl I searched they had it cuz they r bipolar.
@teelanes2u I'm not bipolar, I hav cronic depression and attention deffict disorder. My doctor has been talking about ect. U think it'd work? most of the ppl I searched they had it cuz they r bipolar.
@teelanes2u I'm not bipolar, I hav cronic depression and attention deffict disorder. My doctor has been talking about ect. U think it'd work? most of the ppl I searched they had it cuz they r bipolar.
@teelanes2u well let me tell you a story about a guy who was suicidal and they tried everything on him but he was still the same way and antidepressants just made him more depress... now he never touched illegal drugs but he tried a little weed (cannabis) for 5 months and he was normal again... currently he does not smoke or drink or do any drugs.. also he is very happy with his live... so can you tell me why you don't give you patents weed (cannabis) cause i know it works...
@dunhillsupramk3 It depends though, marijuana affects everyone differently. I smoke all the time, it's just.. I get a lot of anxiety when I smoke. Marijuana is very subjective on the person. It can make some very happy with life, but others.. Reality just seems too strong, on marijuana. It can make you think way too much.
@sushiyama1 by the way i only did it for about 5 months (2 to 3 times a week) after that i stop using it and its been about 6 years and i got no relapse... but i think its worth a shot and put ECT as a last option now i'm not against ECT or anything but i was never given the choice and had to do this by myself...
Yes it is crude and it is inhumane to those who don't want it and risky for those who do. The only thing it does is block and mutilate the brain. As for alternatives there are plenty, Open Dialogue, counselling, move from the SAD eating to raw or mainly raw, Orthomolecular. Incidently bipolar doesn't exist in physical science it is only a theoretical disorder as with ALL psychiatric disorders 150 years of research hasn't been able to find ANY CLINICAL evidence.
@teelanes2u What a shame people in medicine have opinions like you do. You should lose your license. What about Ernest Hemingway and others who committed suicide after ECT? This is an inhumane practice. Will you argue for lobotomies too?
@msnnbc you're an idiot...You don't even know what you are talking about. If modern day ECT is inhumane...Then so is Chemotherapy, Radiation treatment, and many other treatments...
@koochy79 Why should they be inhumane? What many other treatments? Are they given without consent to people who cannot give consent? You need an education or at least logic. I suggest school not youtube.
Psychiatry is an anagram for fraudulent sick fuck. These so called doctors are the scum of the earth inflicting their medieval barbarism on the most vulnerable and gentle minded members of society. They should all be given ECT via the electric chair. These amoebic lowlifes fucked my memory with their barbaric mind torture while i was under section 3. FUCK THEM ALL I will see them all in HELL.
@TheRachel33 I remember most everything, except perhaps what I had for breakfast and small matters, I certainly will remember your statement here...to bad for both of us.
I am highly educated and seriously bipolar. I have recently been discharged from 62 days in the psyche hospital where I had 6 ECT treatments. The scares on my wrists are testament to the seriousness of my unsucessful suicide attempt. When ECT was offered to me I said, "Do it"! Get your head together and understand we live in a world of modern medicine. For the most part it does not erase memory. My memory and the memory of most people who live with mental illness is off all the time any way.
dumbest shit iv ever seen, ppl have bad memories that makes them sad, so you go and wipe their memory as a cure? come on, i can't believe they still do this today. makes ppl not want to go see a doctor now, sure did to me.
@Oxidized181 If you need help with mental illness go to the Doctor. ECT is a treatment of last resort. I responded positively after the first treatment and did have some memory loss. It is not a big deal. My sister died during the time I was in the hospital, I did forget that. The memory loss is small stuff, like meeting new people and what you watched on TV. After the treatments I would fell just like my old self for a few days but then I would relapse back into depression.
@Oxidized181 So I am trying to decide if I should under go more treatments, it is uncomfortable and weird just from a mind set thing, not like having a tooth pulled. It is also painless. After my 62 days in the mental hospital where I was treated with dignity and respect, and my every need was cared for and where I made friends I think I learned alot about living bipolar. I have come to see it as a state of being rather than an disease. I think I am going to practice sever life style changes.
@angelamariapreuss What a mature decision you have reached (state of being x disease). I am currently undergoing ECT for treatment-resistant depression and I am finding it really wonderful. My mind is light again, the black clouds dissipating. I wish you all the best in your journey.
I've had ect, and it took way more than 2/3 month to totally recover my memory, probably about two years(stuff that happened during treatment came back last). It did help me, even though it was a very hard treatment. It's no fun, and only the very last solution... after many years of ineffective psychiatrical care. Now I'm doing ok returning to a good life(family, friends, school, work). And even truly enjoying it.
@khargooshkhargoosh if you dont have an educated opinion to give, and this goes for everyone like this, dont give it you are being very pathetic and judgemental not only about a treatment that saves lives and is safer than many other options you obviously dont know anything about this you need to learn how to accept things for what they are not what your afraid of because your points dont even make sense
@94oreoman I had ECT and I can say that it did not save my life, in fact it did nothing, and now I have permanent memory damage. Unless you've had it, you don't know what it's like. DO NOT GET IT, unless you want to be nonfunctional and unable to remember the simplest things. The pain from this far outweighs any "positive" benefits. ECT Destroys Lives and should be outlawed absolutely.
@erikz853 Wait a few years. My mom had it three years ago and it brought her out of a depression she couldn't shake for a year. At first she couldnt remember anything but as time went on it came back. Now she is better then ever and we have ECT to thank for that
@erikz853 well i got it and not only did it make my bipolar manageable i dont feel as anxious nor as depressed i have become more social i have learned to accept things from my past and move on it is easier for me to trust people i have lost weight got a job and i was not able to do that before the ECT it doesnt work the same for everyone obviously, but that doesnt mean its not for EVERYONE i did not have any side effects and im truly sorry it didnt work for you but that isnt a fair judgment
@erikz853 You said you feel nonfunction and can't remember things. Seems like I know what it's like, maybe leave the cliche dramatic, "you don't know what it's like" out. It seems pretty obvious. You live life like you're really e-tarded, got it.
I have just returned home from 62 days in a mental hospital in SW Florida. I received 6 ECT treatments. I had slit my wrists and have been suffering with crippling bipolar drug resistant depression for 5 years. When the ECT was offered to me I had only the vaguest idea of what it was, but the first words out of my mouth were, " do it !" I felt nothing, except a dry mouth when I work up, oh yea and the world began to look beautiful again. I remembered blue skys! I still have a little memory loss
@angelamariapreuss Did you ever go into remission? I think I'm going back to my suicidal thoughts... I'm having girl troubles and I'm getting extremely depressed, more than I should be... I'm seeing cars going by and wondering if the impact would kill me.
I don't know what I'm expecting for an answer but... Should I go back? I did the procedure in November... So...
@angelamariapreuss the memory loss is permanent. There is brain damage from this crime. The reason you were "suffering" is from the earlier psychiatric poison drugs in your system. In my opinion the quacks who do this horrific crime are the worst crminals in society. They along with the quacks who dispense the brain drugs should be hunted down by swat teams, beaten and thrown in a dark hole for the rest of their lives.
@Ultimate007Trini that's the problem with ppl, ppl can be cruel to call everyone that has depression CRAZY. It's a treatment for suicidal ppl, if she's happy now that's wat matters. I think u hav no idea what it feels like to want to die every single day.
@Ultimate007Trini that's the problem with ppl, ppl can be cruel to call everyone that has depression CRAZY. It's a treatment for suicidal ppl, if she's happy now that's wat matters. I think u hav no idea what it feels like to want to die every single day.
Let me tell you: depression is very very bad. I've been trough it. It is completely different from normal sadness. It makes life fade to grey. ECT is a grateful therapy for those who don't remedy with antidepressant medicine
It is proven that ect does not damage brain cells and is safe. There are some individuals who are affected by more intensive or longer lasting memory loss, but they will get it back within 2-3 months. While you get better, it is proven that new brain cells are generated. Bad reputance derives from too much modern or phychologically influenced media and from the past bad experiences (no anesthesia/fractures), but today, ect is SAFE and LIFE SAVING
I am a psychology student. I have received training and course work on ECT... Many individuals that receive this treatment are usually volunteers or consent to treatment. This procedure may seem inhuman or unethical; however, the procedure does have positive out-comes. Many individuals only have a negative out-look on this treatment is primarily based on modern films or horror movies. Some individuals have read the side affects and become skeptical about ECT. Evidence's proves otherwise..
@maroom1 i never had it but i heard it used to heart in the old days like extreamly bad but now they numb you and you don't feel any pain. the things you usually forget is like what day it is or where you've been or even friends but your memory will comeback in the future. you will just forget like what day it is
These days the treatment is much more humane. The shocks are less frequent than previously administered, teh electricity is of a lesser voltage, and more strict guidelines are involved. the person is also put under a light general anathesia, when before it was either light sedation or nothing. I work at a psych hospital and it SAVES people's lives sometimes. Some patients request it after having done it before because it relieves the torture they are enduring.
People don't cry and talk about their feelings. This is disgusting- electrocuting someone's brain because she is unhappy. No wonder foreigners say we are crazy. Doctors are overdosing patients. Why do they antidepressants to anorexics?
I thought it would be cool to try so i did it at home with a TENS machine attached to my temples. unfortunately once it started it i mustn't have been able to turn it off. i broke my arms and one of my collar bones and dislocated my hip from the convulsions. eventually the battery on the machine ran out i guess. anyway I'm typing this this with my tongue at the moment and i am feeling really REALLY happy. ECT is great and i highly recommend you try itbdf dkgl[ortwo[]tpjw6i
I've had ECT treatments so listen up! Yes, they are a last resort but after wasting my time with 15 medications that didn't work, years of therapy, and life changes, I knew ECT was the next step to take. So far I feel somewhat better after my first two treatments and side effects while annoying are tolerable. Unless you have undergone ECT, you have no right to speak badly about it. If anything, the worst part is being put to sleep. Honestly.
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You must be insane to enjoy having a load of perverts in white coats prod you and do all that fucked up shit to you. It's akin to those guys who poop in diapers and pay hookers to change them. Jeez, go kill yourself. With a bit of luck you might get re-incarnated as a lab rat.
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Possible creates neurogenesis which is pretty amazing but yes it does seem vulger to the outsider looking in. Certainly a better to try ECT rather than suicide....
The equipment shown in this video seems ancient. Looks like stuff made in the analog years instead of the digital quality. I'm sure that these instruments are more refine and precise today than the one shown in this segment.
ECT treatment is garbage please don't do this to yourself. I seriously want to smash all these "doctors" in the face. Just to let you know all these doctors and nurses are laughing at u while they perform these treatments they are horrible people who just see u as a scientific experiment. Help depressed people my ass. I don't want 2 be a dick but seriously if u were that depressed" u would have ended your life a while ago. Psychiatric drugs are good enough stop promoting this inhumane treatment.
I'm trying to study this Monarch mind control program.... is it people going under Electroconvulsive therapy which is electroshock? and does it change your personality and make you the way people want you to do or the way you want your own self to be?
@saranixxx You must not get the dynamics behind it. As a medical student I can tell you that this treatment is a last resort in the case that the drugs given before to treat depression such as SSRI, TCA's, as well as other 2nd choice drugs are ineffective. If you have depression or you think you do, you should really go and see a doctor about it and see what your options are. Try and do things more active to boost any self confidence and keep your thoughts clear. Dont ignore it.
well this ECT like many treatments does has its side-effects...like there is hair loss due to chemotherapy..i know loosing your memory is much more grave but still the control ECT gives patient over their disabling depression is worth the minor loss.
There are those that say this works but I think that in 100 years from now, people will look back at this the same way we look at the "SNAKE OIL" industry in the 1800s.
To all you idiots saying "Zomg!! It's so inhumane!! The memory loss is so bad!!", I'm going to say: what's a few memories in the face of suicide?
People don't seem to understand that this treatment has been all but perfected as of now (this video is kind of old), and memory loss is normal, but only during the treatment period. There is a risk of losing previous memories afterwards, but the risk is astronomically small. For someone suffering from depression, the benefits far outweigh the risks.
Just saw these treatment in person and interviewed the clients. It is very controlled now and works much better than medication. Look for magnetic therapy to be the next big thing, it will eliminate the slight risks that ECT has.
Just listen to this lady. She says she doesn't remember much about her depression prior to the procedure. Maybe, she is experiencing some memory loss resulting from the procedure???? Now, I feel bad for her. I do not want to sound like I'm lacking in compassion. But, there should be a better way to treat her depression than through the usage of this risky procedure.
They don't even do this anymore. As you can see it's an old film. Also causing someone to have a cesurae is so dangerous that it's against human rights to do this now. But I only speak for England. As far as I know it could still be a practice in America. But I very much doubt it.
@OtiBixH It's definitely still in practice. Held the electrodes myself on rotation in medical school a couple years ago. It's done with anesthesia and muscle relaxants, painless, and quite effective. It can cause short-term memory loss, which is why the patient needs to be informed properly before treatment, but for many patients it is the only thing that works. The patients I spoke to were all very happy to be receiving working treatment after failures with other methods.
@OtiBixH It is still used in England, around 12,000 people still receive this kind of treatment (if you believe it works) every year. An estimated 70,000 people a year still receive ECT in America, so yes it is still used quite a lot.
its really useless and quackery of practising the ect.people should b aware of such practises.it has severe side affects ,n i dont agree with the ect.
@drprithvi ,,,I strongly disagree. I am/was severely depressed and suicidal and after 2 treatments ..2nd one being today I am already seeing a resounding improvement. Please dont knock something unless you have expreience to do so...many people can be helped with this treatment.
@TimeDefeater --------I am not stupid in fact I am very well educated and ran a huge corporation.
I strongly disagree. I am/was severely depressed and suicidal and after 2 treatments ..2nd one being today I am already seeing a resounding improvement. Please dont knock something unless you have expreience to do so...many people can be helped with this treatment.
ECT has changed a lot over the years, but the fact remains that the brain isn't a broken car engine that can be fucking jumpstarted and brought back to a pristine state.
To those of you who are condemning ECT and making outlandish claims about how it causes brain damage, have you actually read more than a paragraph about the topic? Are you speaking from experience or do you at least know someone who's undergone the treatment? If not, you're just blowing steam out your ass so shut the fuck up you ignorant fucks.
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Clearly the majority of you are illeducated on the matter. I saw this treatment done to my mother when she was not in the right mind to negate or agree to the treatment. My father instead as her guardian allowed for this to happen. After seeing the treatment preformed on my mother I was not only scared for life but so was she. She no longer remembered she was married or that I was her daughter. Only now has she regained some of her memories.It was tragic..and it is inhumane
Oh please! THIS is NOT how they do it. They put you to sleep first. WHo the fuck thinks this is REALLY not with the times.
peridotangel83 3 days ago
Some scary ass shit.
MissBesitosDulces 1 week ago
Please people if you want to know about ECT talk to a trained health care professional. DO NOT WATCH VIDEOS AND READ THINGS ON THE INTERNET TO BASE UR OPINION. Remember anybody can put anything on the internet, talk to someone who went to university and has an actual job in the mental health or health care field. ECT does not work for everyone and different people have different reactions talk to a docter not random people on the internet.
logeezie876 1 week ago 7
i study nursing and we had a patient who she had deep depression and nothing could help the young women, she was like feeling as a robot, and could not have feeling over her small children. She got ECT and after 2 ect she got much much better!!! it was unbelievely.
persiandanmark 1 week ago 4
Ongoing depression is often an appropriate symptom of a deeper issue. Health professionals are usually focused on trying to eliminate the symptom, while not addressing its cause. Humans are not merely physical bodies, therefore proper treatment cannot be limited to physical solutions such as pills, ECT, or so on. For example, if a person thinks and believes lies, it can result in hopelessness which will then do them in. A person has to know and believe the truth, not just their own opinions.
cadmus98 1 week ago
@fluffythebear Yes i am currently doing ect and am about 5 or 6 treatments in out of a suggested 9 unilateral( one side of the brain) then they re evaluate. So far only grogginess right after, i go home and nap for a couple hours, you may get some soreness and stiffness in strange places because ur entire body has a seisure but its not major also there is some memory loss the more treatments you have, it seems to effect each person differently,its not a destroyer of lives.
logeezie876 1 week ago
This is just sick
gesseofbloodclan405 2 weeks ago
@erikz853 Who are you to say that ECT destroys lives and should be outlawed completly, because it did not work for you does not mean it doesnt work other people. I started ect this week and have had no problems except for groggy ness the day of which is to be expected, i highly doubt that ECT made you "nonfunctionable" and unable to remember the simpliest things, it does come with some memory loss but it all but rare cases is not permanent.A lengthy time with depression far outweighs not trying.
logeezie876 3 weeks ago
@logeezie876 You're doing ECT? My psych wants me to consider it, but my gf is dead set against me having it. So you mentioned your only "major" side effect so far is grogginess? Do you get a headache after treatment?
FluffytheBear86 2 weeks ago
this is sickening
apocalypticsekhmet 3 weeks ago
I mean the successes of psychology are pretty shite, its not hard to do brain damage all you need to do is get some1 to down wiskey or vodka. If you are worried about it exaggerating your mood do it when ur happy, and if you get depressed or anything immediately go to bed and fall asleep. This will be less harmful for your brain and save you lots of money. I am not responsible for what happens if you carry out anything I said.
XavierAtriedes 3 weeks ago
I hardly call raw facts vile language, I mean the only form in which I will consider scientists is in mad evil scientists. They have made over a million zombies out of living people using psychiatric drugs, and thousands of frankensteins using psychosurgery. If you consider making frankensteins good, then I do not share the same definition of good with you. Psychologists are like the witches of old who sold poisons.
XavierAtriedes 3 weeks ago
@XavierAtriedes that made absolutey no sense, if you want raw facts how is this, 1 in 10,000 that get the procedure die and it is because of an anesthetic overdose, more people die from anesthetic overdoses in procedures than in faults with the operation itself and psychiatry has helped more people than it hasnt yes there are flaws but i hope you realize everything has flaws and i wouldnt consider millions of people zombies because neither you nor i know that many people in the first place
94oreoman 1 week ago
kinda good results , but really scary way of treatment
amshg21 3 weeks ago
Oh yeah...erase your hard drive! Neanderthal treatment. Good for the NWO about to fall!
NWOrDREGS 3 weeks ago
Don't hire some one to hit you over the head with a sledgehammer or any object (I am not responsible if you do). In fact protect your brain if possible. Say no to psychiatry and fraud.
XavierAtriedes 1 month ago
I do not understand such over the top and vulgar language being used to discuss ECT.. I was treated with ECT seventeen times over a period of years. I agreed to do it because I had no other choice. ECT or suicide. I was last treated in 2005. It was tremendously beneficial. I had no side effects whatsoever. C. Jones
cecilcjones 4 weeks ago
I mean a sledgehammer can do the damage needed for this treatment to be successful.
XavierAtriedes 1 month ago
One of the reasons they don't hire someone to use a sledgehammer instead is there is no $3 billion in that.
XavierAtriedes 1 month ago
@XavierAtriedes oh one more thing to this please research where the money actually goes... its mostly health insurance and where im from if needed the hospitals actually pay for it completely so please realize your filling peoples minds with your shitty opinions not facts
94oreoman 1 week ago
The mentally ill are the new niggers of the world
digitalHEX666 1 month ago
Do you feel it?
MassDestructionFTW 1 month ago
@MassDestructionFTW It usually send's 480 volt's to the brain, Usually inducing a seizure will happen, but mostly brain lose...
pwnagedud3 1 month ago
It works ... And only done by request of patient or with consent
Jaclifford11 1 month ago
It doesn't happen all the time. But it is very strange. Again, I am rational, so I can work through it. I have never heard anyone talk about this memory effect, but then I have never talked about ECT to anyone. In the hospital I was the only one to accept ECT. Everyone warned me against but I did it because I was going to kill myself. The other patients were very surprised when I would come back from treatment and eat breakfast and just go about my day. I stayed in the hospital for my treatment.
angelamariapreuss 1 month ago
What I mean by remembering things twice is like this: Say I go out and talk to the mail man about a new paper article and while talking he drops a letter. Once I get in the house my mind tells me that the exact same thing happened before, like last week. But I realize that is impossible because today we talked about a news paper and how could we talk about a news paper article before it came out. Were I not able to rationalize the memory I can see how it could make trouble. Paranoia perhaps?
angelamariapreuss 1 month ago
Can a person loose memory of their family and loveones after this treatment?
kozmums 1 month ago
@kozmums Most likely not. What is forgotten are event, but when my brain is in the throws of bipolar extremes I don't remember anything in that state either. What helped me the most was spending 2 months in the mental hospital, (behavioral facility) It taught me a lot and how to slow the fuck down. Now that I am home I do things very slowly, and I find not much really matters the way I thought it did. People don't get this, they don't get how I enjoy being somewhat of a recluse.
angelamariapreuss 1 month ago
@kozmums So any way I leaned to slow like down. Like I actually go the beach when I don't think I should. I also pray and talk to God through the day as much as I can. I just gave my life to him. Those to things, slowing down and praying and talking to God I believe have made me whole. However, l am not perfect. The ECT did effect my memory, but so does the bipolarism. One very strange side effect from the ECT on my memory is that at times I seem to remember things twice.
angelamariapreuss 1 month ago
@angelamariapreuss: wow, you are very brave taking this treatment. I can belive that help some people. Always interest in this cause is so much talk about it like it is very scary thing. I just wanted to see it for myself how this work for people today cause just came in news here in Norway that a woman just tryed ECT because of her depression and look like see was like more happyer after. Before treatment she didnt smile or anything, Very deeeep depressed. So hope this make you better too :)
kozmums 1 month ago
ECT kills!
Blopp98 2 months ago
ECT is an extremely effective treatment for certain types of depression. As long as it is not the firstline treatment and the patient is aware of the potential for permanent cognitive deficits and memoryloss and has the choice not to undergo the procedure, then the use of it is cetainly warranted.
mikaelhs 2 months ago
Looks like brainwashing to me. I recently decided to get off of drugs for my clinical depression. Im just starting to feel like myself again, I had never tried to take my life until being on the drugs that the doctor gave me. Im concentrating on a healthy diet, active lifestyle and being sure to do at least one thing that makes me happy a day. I know every case and person is different, but this is what has been working for me. Its the processed food and flouridated water...
GoGadgetHookerClean 2 months ago
@GoGadgetHookerClean What you are doing sounds like a good step towards feeling better, but not everybody can get off medication and do that. I have drug resistant major depressive disorder and I am in the middle of doing 12 ECT. I am on number 8 tomorrow. This is not brainwashing, it is a desperate measure that saves the lives of many people, and although I don't feel all that better yet, I have hope that this will prove to be effective. The only other option for me is an early grave.
moneyasusual 2 months ago
I had no idea it looks like this... I went into electroconvulsive therapy like a year ago, I suffered severe depression due to a break in a relationship followed by the the death of my father. I looked for some help since suicidal ideas came to me frecuently... I admit that I have set new goals in my life, the strong depression is gone but suicide is still a vague idea. This treatmeant may help you, but you have to acknowledge what you're going trough!
Nando85ec 2 months ago
do the results last forever or do they go away?
shox5555 2 months ago
@shox5555
They don't last forever, unfortunately. My mum has to have them once every 2 years, sometimes 1 year, there were other factors that resulted in it though, she didn't take her medication all the time. Been going strong for about 6 months so far.
I will say that this has saved her life multiple times
SnowClover 2 months ago
I would totally do this if it had a chance of working. There are 2 more medications I can try and then I'm asking my psych about this.
I have to say though, watching her undergo this treatment made me hold my breath. It looks terrifying.
LukeShetler 2 months ago
Promotion for legal torture, my grandfather died from ECT!
Missimjau 2 months ago
Do you really need that or just a good kick in the pants.
J5MARLON 2 months ago
ECT saved my life - I feel like a different person.
Kcwellons 2 months ago
i only wish theyd emphasized more about how BAD the memory loss can b,i recieved4from1dr.,after a wile they suggested i get more-i had2c a diff. dr. an recieved17more. after(few yrs.ish)it was hard to retain info4learning new jobs,i dont remember certain things from my long-term memory-even seein pix n vids,i dont remember a greenday concert i went2This may b beneficial4some ppl. but i wish i had not gotten any.I HATE my memory loss! the short-term loss is SO frustrating!but im doing well now=)
jessiangel2009 3 months ago
I'm just glad they didn't do this on me!
Athena1992owl 3 months ago
No one is ever going to convince me that ECT is either safe or effective. I just watched a fragment of a Nazi "medical" video of a "doctor" performing ect. ECT was very popular in Nazi asylums, and also was proposed as a cheap way of killing "useless mouths". If anyone wants a link to that vid message me, it depicts ect and the resulting convulsions.
clintonearlwalker 3 months ago
Criminals in white clothes, THIS ARE NAZI/COMMUNIST PRACTICES.
THIS IS TORTURE, THIS DIDN'T HELP!!!!
GoyimRevolutionist 3 months ago
@Iraqgenocide5: Lemme guess: you're a Scientologist.
bukkler 3 months ago
my god , what is the world coming to ?
sriwai1 3 months ago
yahoo! don't knock it till you've tried it! dh severly depressed for 8 months, zombie staring at the TV with no sound etc, wouldnt talk to even his mother or best friend, tried all the drugs! no help! first treatment friday, he started chatting on the way hom and commented on a camper show along the way! WoW! got hom he said he felt better already and hoped it wasn't the anesthia and wouldnt wear off! ps i would love to lose my memory for the last 8 months! : (
moo78634 4 months ago
@2010ezekiel That which is alive reacts to external stimulus, That which reacts feels pain. Pain is proof of life, and if you block pain you are not living your life. Embrace your pain, and react. Live!
w13rdguy 4 months ago
@PersiansAreNotArabs Ur a jack ass. when someones heart goes haywire and someone else attatches an AED machine guess what happens? THEY GET SHOCKED! It stops the heart and for reasons unknown to medical science the heart sometimes re-starts normally. stop living off your horror movie logic! People that are crippled with severe depression have a 70-something success rate with 12 sessions of REAL ECT!!! And guess what else. Everyone that goes through this is on enough tranqs to take down a horse!
jduray 4 months ago
Pick up Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Dummies. Quit this ECT nonesense.
taylor6string 4 months ago
I lost plenty of memory, but in the end, I would have to say that ECT was extremely helpful in conjunction with intensive therapy.
Andy Behrman, Author
"Electroboy: A Memoir of Mania"
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wwwtotalitaerde 4 months ago
fucked up
scottmop4325 4 months ago
@ectdf1975 It's their choice to do it. You don't feel any pain and it only lasts about 40 seconds. My dad had it done and he says he felt better after the first procedure and hasn't felt this good since he was 14. That's a miracle to me.
fallingstars2481 4 months ago 3
Another violation of human rights.
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THE INDUSTRY OF DEATH
Koran90123 5 months ago
@Koran90123 What is wrong with you? Go someplace you like and leave the intelligent people to converse.
angelamariapreuss 1 month ago
A clockwork orange springs to mind.
Insidious1933 5 months ago
this woman needs some opiates for depression instead of electrcity
SuperDelta000 5 months ago
@ectdf1975 You strike me as the type who would rather see someone wallow in their own misery for years until finally they die a bloody death on their bathroom floor at their own hands.
CambridgeHeights 5 months ago
I worked in a psych unit near Chicago for almost 10 years. They did ECT on MWF. We had a guy come in with no insurance, so he couldn't stay long. Dr. So-and-so decided it would be a good idea to give him 2 treatments/day. The patient soon went to a medical floor after exhibiting some of the most BIZARRE behavior I've ever seen. I wonder what ever happened to him... or Dr. So-and-so
MeInTheCornfield 5 months ago
I prescribe 3 spliffs a day and a regime of physical excercise....works for me.
mushroomscouser 5 months ago 2
@mushroomscouser amen bro
vdubfester 5 months ago
I work as a psyche RN and I can telll you ECT saves lives; Bipolar Depression is a most intransient form of depression, and aproximately 20% of people with Bipolar Disorder will in the end committ suicide; Kurt Cobain, Sylvia Plath, the poet Robert Berryman are some famous people who lost the battle with depression; granted, the treatment appears crude, and in a way is, but untill they find better treatment it is all we have to save people who are resistant to antidepressants or Lithium.
teelanes2u 5 months ago 13
@teelanes2u I'm not bipolar, I hav cronic depression and attention deffict disorder. My doctor has been talking about ect. U think it'd work? most of the ppl I searched they had it cuz they r bipolar.
argentinawinthrop 3 months ago
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@teelanes2u I'm not bipolar, I hav cronic depression and attention deffict disorder. My doctor has been talking about ect. U think it'd work? most of the ppl I searched they had it cuz they r bipolar.
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@teelanes2u I'm not bipolar, I hav cronic depression and attention deffict disorder. My doctor has been talking about ect. U think it'd work? most of the ppl I searched they had it cuz they r bipolar.
argentinawinthrop 3 months ago
@teelanes2u well let me tell you a story about a guy who was suicidal and they tried everything on him but he was still the same way and antidepressants just made him more depress... now he never touched illegal drugs but he tried a little weed (cannabis) for 5 months and he was normal again... currently he does not smoke or drink or do any drugs.. also he is very happy with his live... so can you tell me why you don't give you patents weed (cannabis) cause i know it works...
dunhillsupramk3 2 months ago
@dunhillsupramk3 It depends though, marijuana affects everyone differently. I smoke all the time, it's just.. I get a lot of anxiety when I smoke. Marijuana is very subjective on the person. It can make some very happy with life, but others.. Reality just seems too strong, on marijuana. It can make you think way too much.
sushiyama1 1 month ago
@sushiyama1 by the way i only did it for about 5 months (2 to 3 times a week) after that i stop using it and its been about 6 years and i got no relapse... but i think its worth a shot and put ECT as a last option now i'm not against ECT or anything but i was never given the choice and had to do this by myself...
dunhillsupramk3 1 month ago
@teelanes2u
Yes it is crude and it is inhumane to those who don't want it and risky for those who do. The only thing it does is block and mutilate the brain. As for alternatives there are plenty, Open Dialogue, counselling, move from the SAD eating to raw or mainly raw, Orthomolecular. Incidently bipolar doesn't exist in physical science it is only a theoretical disorder as with ALL psychiatric disorders 150 years of research hasn't been able to find ANY CLINICAL evidence.
ikspandoodle 2 months ago
@teelanes2u What a shame people in medicine have opinions like you do. You should lose your license. What about Ernest Hemingway and others who committed suicide after ECT? This is an inhumane practice. Will you argue for lobotomies too?
msnnbc 1 month ago
@msnnbc you're an idiot...You don't even know what you are talking about. If modern day ECT is inhumane...Then so is Chemotherapy, Radiation treatment, and many other treatments...
koochy79 1 month ago
@koochy79 Why should they be inhumane? What many other treatments? Are they given without consent to people who cannot give consent? You need an education or at least logic. I suggest school not youtube.
msnnbc 1 month ago
Psychiatry is an anagram for fraudulent sick fuck. These so called doctors are the scum of the earth inflicting their medieval barbarism on the most vulnerable and gentle minded members of society. They should all be given ECT via the electric chair. These amoebic lowlifes fucked my memory with their barbaric mind torture while i was under section 3. FUCK THEM ALL I will see them all in HELL.
steve42681 5 months ago
No wonder people get better, just like in a lobotomy they cant remember shit
TheRachel33 5 months ago
@TheRachel33 I remember most everything, except perhaps what I had for breakfast and small matters, I certainly will remember your statement here...to bad for both of us.
angelamariapreuss 5 months ago
I am highly educated and seriously bipolar. I have recently been discharged from 62 days in the psyche hospital where I had 6 ECT treatments. The scares on my wrists are testament to the seriousness of my unsucessful suicide attempt. When ECT was offered to me I said, "Do it"! Get your head together and understand we live in a world of modern medicine. For the most part it does not erase memory. My memory and the memory of most people who live with mental illness is off all the time any way.
angelamariapreuss 6 months ago 2
dumbest shit iv ever seen, ppl have bad memories that makes them sad, so you go and wipe their memory as a cure? come on, i can't believe they still do this today. makes ppl not want to go see a doctor now, sure did to me.
Oxidized181 6 months ago
@Oxidized181 If you need help with mental illness go to the Doctor. ECT is a treatment of last resort. I responded positively after the first treatment and did have some memory loss. It is not a big deal. My sister died during the time I was in the hospital, I did forget that. The memory loss is small stuff, like meeting new people and what you watched on TV. After the treatments I would fell just like my old self for a few days but then I would relapse back into depression.
angelamariapreuss 6 months ago
@Oxidized181 So I am trying to decide if I should under go more treatments, it is uncomfortable and weird just from a mind set thing, not like having a tooth pulled. It is also painless. After my 62 days in the mental hospital where I was treated with dignity and respect, and my every need was cared for and where I made friends I think I learned alot about living bipolar. I have come to see it as a state of being rather than an disease. I think I am going to practice sever life style changes.
angelamariapreuss 6 months ago 2
@angelamariapreuss What a mature decision you have reached (state of being x disease). I am currently undergoing ECT for treatment-resistant depression and I am finding it really wonderful. My mind is light again, the black clouds dissipating. I wish you all the best in your journey.
carolinasos 5 months ago
I've had ect, and it took way more than 2/3 month to totally recover my memory, probably about two years(stuff that happened during treatment came back last). It did help me, even though it was a very hard treatment. It's no fun, and only the very last solution... after many years of ineffective psychiatrical care. Now I'm doing ok returning to a good life(family, friends, school, work). And even truly enjoying it.
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khargooshkhargoosh 6 months ago
@khargooshkhargoosh if you dont have an educated opinion to give, and this goes for everyone like this, dont give it you are being very pathetic and judgemental not only about a treatment that saves lives and is safer than many other options you obviously dont know anything about this you need to learn how to accept things for what they are not what your afraid of because your points dont even make sense
94oreoman 3 months ago
@94oreoman I had ECT and I can say that it did not save my life, in fact it did nothing, and now I have permanent memory damage. Unless you've had it, you don't know what it's like. DO NOT GET IT, unless you want to be nonfunctional and unable to remember the simplest things. The pain from this far outweighs any "positive" benefits. ECT Destroys Lives and should be outlawed absolutely.
erikz853 1 month ago 3
@erikz853 Wait a few years. My mom had it three years ago and it brought her out of a depression she couldn't shake for a year. At first she couldnt remember anything but as time went on it came back. Now she is better then ever and we have ECT to thank for that
soniasonia 2 weeks ago
@erikz853 Also, it depends on where you get it. She had it done at Yale New Haven Hospital which has very good medical doctors and specialist
soniasonia 2 weeks ago
@erikz853 well i got it and not only did it make my bipolar manageable i dont feel as anxious nor as depressed i have become more social i have learned to accept things from my past and move on it is easier for me to trust people i have lost weight got a job and i was not able to do that before the ECT it doesnt work the same for everyone obviously, but that doesnt mean its not for EVERYONE i did not have any side effects and im truly sorry it didnt work for you but that isnt a fair judgment
94oreoman 1 week ago
@94oreoman oh and this is 2 months after the procedure ill comment to update
94oreoman 1 week ago
@erikz853 You said you feel nonfunction and can't remember things. Seems like I know what it's like, maybe leave the cliche dramatic, "you don't know what it's like" out. It seems pretty obvious. You live life like you're really e-tarded, got it.
faterock9876543 3 days ago
I have just returned home from 62 days in a mental hospital in SW Florida. I received 6 ECT treatments. I had slit my wrists and have been suffering with crippling bipolar drug resistant depression for 5 years. When the ECT was offered to me I had only the vaguest idea of what it was, but the first words out of my mouth were, " do it !" I felt nothing, except a dry mouth when I work up, oh yea and the world began to look beautiful again. I remembered blue skys! I still have a little memory loss
angelamariapreuss 6 months ago 48
@angelamariapreuss Did you ever go into remission? I think I'm going back to my suicidal thoughts... I'm having girl troubles and I'm getting extremely depressed, more than I should be... I'm seeing cars going by and wondering if the impact would kill me.
I don't know what I'm expecting for an answer but... Should I go back? I did the procedure in November... So...
2010Ezekiel 4 months ago
@angelamariapreuss the memory loss is permanent. There is brain damage from this crime. The reason you were "suffering" is from the earlier psychiatric poison drugs in your system. In my opinion the quacks who do this horrific crime are the worst crminals in society. They along with the quacks who dispense the brain drugs should be hunted down by swat teams, beaten and thrown in a dark hole for the rest of their lives.
Iraqgenocide5 4 months ago
@angelamariapreuss U MUST BE CRAZY!!!
Ultimate007Trini 4 months ago
@Ultimate007Trini that's the problem with ppl, ppl can be cruel to call everyone that has depression CRAZY. It's a treatment for suicidal ppl, if she's happy now that's wat matters. I think u hav no idea what it feels like to want to die every single day.
argentinawinthrop 3 months ago
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@Ultimate007Trini that's the problem with ppl, ppl can be cruel to call everyone that has depression CRAZY. It's a treatment for suicidal ppl, if she's happy now that's wat matters. I think u hav no idea what it feels like to want to die every single day.
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InsomniacAttack1994 3 months ago
@angelamariapreuss congratulations :) best of luck with your recovery
BrendanIsCool 1 month ago
I want ect
leletto1980 6 months ago
Let me tell you: depression is very very bad. I've been trough it. It is completely different from normal sadness. It makes life fade to grey. ECT is a grateful therapy for those who don't remedy with antidepressant medicine
mysonywalkman1978 7 months ago 3
It is proven that ect does not damage brain cells and is safe. There are some individuals who are affected by more intensive or longer lasting memory loss, but they will get it back within 2-3 months. While you get better, it is proven that new brain cells are generated. Bad reputance derives from too much modern or phychologically influenced media and from the past bad experiences (no anesthesia/fractures), but today, ect is SAFE and LIFE SAVING
mysonywalkman1978 7 months ago
I am a psychology student. I have received training and course work on ECT... Many individuals that receive this treatment are usually volunteers or consent to treatment. This procedure may seem inhuman or unethical; however, the procedure does have positive out-comes. Many individuals only have a negative out-look on this treatment is primarily based on modern films or horror movies. Some individuals have read the side affects and become skeptical about ECT. Evidence's proves otherwise..
fatboy03141988 7 months ago 5
@fatboy03141988 this is not a therapy . how much money u get by every electric shock ? cash and insurance
khargooshkhargoosh 6 months ago
I've got an idea! Next time we see someone depressed, let's strap them to a table and torture them using electricity!
DarksiderDarmoset 7 months ago
And they call these morons doctors? They're killing the brain, treating it like it's a car battery. "hey, your depressed, let's give u a jumpstart!"
youngxholla 7 months ago 3
HUMAANS WERE NOT MEANT TO BE TREATED LIKE A PHONE CHRAGER!
rosslynsage 7 months ago
Doctors torture lifers. It should be banned. Fuck the fda
..!
westshideasss 7 months ago
Amazing that people are still this stupid. Do you fix a computer by running electrical current through it until it stops working?
Mxsmanic 7 months ago
Wow there are people who really think it's safe and helpful to blow some hundred watts through your brain?
TheHolyMolyPoly 7 months ago
i don't think this can help someone , erasing all memories .
theNerdGamer88 8 months ago
I just want to give her a big hug :D
WTFGiordan 8 months ago
Also, how much memory would you loose when you use ECT. Would your forget your family and friends ?
maroom1 8 months ago
Is ECT painfull ? What do you feel when the electric currents shock your brain ?
maroom1 8 months ago
@maroom1 you won't feel anything
Foodfast123 8 months ago
@maroom1 i never had it but i heard it used to heart in the old days like extreamly bad but now they numb you and you don't feel any pain. the things you usually forget is like what day it is or where you've been or even friends but your memory will comeback in the future. you will just forget like what day it is
whitneyluv96 7 months ago
These days the treatment is much more humane. The shocks are less frequent than previously administered, teh electricity is of a lesser voltage, and more strict guidelines are involved. the person is also put under a light general anathesia, when before it was either light sedation or nothing. I work at a psych hospital and it SAVES people's lives sometimes. Some patients request it after having done it before because it relieves the torture they are enduring.
vamp666babe 8 months ago
People don't cry and talk about their feelings. This is disgusting- electrocuting someone's brain because she is unhappy. No wonder foreigners say we are crazy. Doctors are overdosing patients. Why do they antidepressants to anorexics?
birdiehats 8 months ago
I thought it would be cool to try so i did it at home with a TENS machine attached to my temples. unfortunately once it started it i mustn't have been able to turn it off. i broke my arms and one of my collar bones and dislocated my hip from the convulsions. eventually the battery on the machine ran out i guess. anyway I'm typing this this with my tongue at the moment and i am feeling really REALLY happy. ECT is great and i highly recommend you try itbdf dkgl[ortwo[]tpjw6i
spishak7 9 months ago
I've had ECT treatments so listen up! Yes, they are a last resort but after wasting my time with 15 medications that didn't work, years of therapy, and life changes, I knew ECT was the next step to take. So far I feel somewhat better after my first two treatments and side effects while annoying are tolerable. Unless you have undergone ECT, you have no right to speak badly about it. If anything, the worst part is being put to sleep. Honestly.
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NewTrierFreak 9 months ago 2
@NewTrierFreak Yeah, it looks like I may have to get that also. I've been on everything.
SvenStadt 8 months ago
You must be insane to enjoy having a load of perverts in white coats prod you and do all that fucked up shit to you. It's akin to those guys who poop in diapers and pay hookers to change them. Jeez, go kill yourself. With a bit of luck you might get re-incarnated as a lab rat.
killanimalsforfun247 9 months ago
@killanimalsforfun247
With a user name like yours I wouldn't take anything you say even remotely seriously. You write like an idiot, which probably means you are an idiot.
sunnywhatever 8 months ago
@sunnywhatever What is wrong with my username, does it perturb you? For someone who purports to be 45 you write like a brain damaged 4th grader. Is 'idiot' the best insult you can come up with? You imbecilic, floppy donkey's sphincter.
killanimalsforfun247 8 months ago
@killanimalsforfun247 ~ Are you fucking kidding me? kill animals for fun 24 7...... You are a 4th grader for even asking that incredibly stupid question. You can call me all the names you want, you have issues. Have a wonderful evening.
sunnywhatever 8 months ago
@sunnywhatever One of my favorite pastimes is hunting. I came up with this username after being irked while reading some of the comments on hunting videos made by flatulent, hummus-munching cretins who arbitrarily spit their fucked up 'anti hunting' ideology in your face. I decided to give some back. It's one of my favorite sports after baseball.
killanimalsforfun247 8 months ago
Possible creates neurogenesis which is pretty amazing but yes it does seem vulger to the outsider looking in. Certainly a better to try ECT rather than suicide....
geoffmac12 9 months ago
The equipment shown in this video seems ancient. Looks like stuff made in the analog years instead of the digital quality. I'm sure that these instruments are more refine and precise today than the one shown in this segment.
rgarcia77 9 months ago
ECT treatment is garbage please don't do this to yourself. I seriously want to smash all these "doctors" in the face. Just to let you know all these doctors and nurses are laughing at u while they perform these treatments they are horrible people who just see u as a scientific experiment. Help depressed people my ass. I don't want 2 be a dick but seriously if u were that depressed" u would have ended your life a while ago. Psychiatric drugs are good enough stop promoting this inhumane treatment.
Gotumesmerized1 9 months ago
I'm trying to study this Monarch mind control program.... is it people going under Electroconvulsive therapy which is electroshock? and does it change your personality and make you the way people want you to do or the way you want your own self to be?
EJLUKE115 9 months ago
Thank you for this upload.
Tholius 10 months ago
sooooooo, some one has mental health problems, and so the logical step is to zap em in the head with some electicity huh?
cause electricty makes everything better!!! ¬¬
this is why people dont talk about mental health as much as they should, i know it stopped me from talking about it....lol
saranixxx 10 months ago
@saranixxx You must not get the dynamics behind it. As a medical student I can tell you that this treatment is a last resort in the case that the drugs given before to treat depression such as SSRI, TCA's, as well as other 2nd choice drugs are ineffective. If you have depression or you think you do, you should really go and see a doctor about it and see what your options are. Try and do things more active to boost any self confidence and keep your thoughts clear. Dont ignore it.
Murgasen 9 months ago
well this ECT like many treatments does has its side-effects...like there is hair loss due to chemotherapy..i know loosing your memory is much more grave but still the control ECT gives patient over their disabling depression is worth the minor loss.
sharmanuja 10 months ago 2
MONSTERS MONSTERS!!!!!!!
Idolmakercat 10 months ago
I don't like to swear on here but THIS IS MOTHER FUCKING BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Idolmakercat 10 months ago
i get that this trreatment helps and all, but sure is damn scary..psychologically frightening for me..
shinigamixheartless 10 months ago
it either makes you or breaks you i think
MondayFever1 10 months ago
There are those that say this works but I think that in 100 years from now, people will look back at this the same way we look at the "SNAKE OIL" industry in the 1800s.
ardvarkkkkk1 11 months ago
To all you idiots saying "Zomg!! It's so inhumane!! The memory loss is so bad!!", I'm going to say: what's a few memories in the face of suicide?
People don't seem to understand that this treatment has been all but perfected as of now (this video is kind of old), and memory loss is normal, but only during the treatment period. There is a risk of losing previous memories afterwards, but the risk is astronomically small. For someone suffering from depression, the benefits far outweigh the risks.
PhantomBlade75 11 months ago
Just saw these treatment in person and interviewed the clients. It is very controlled now and works much better than medication. Look for magnetic therapy to be the next big thing, it will eliminate the slight risks that ECT has.
adlopez415 11 months ago
Just listen to this lady. She says she doesn't remember much about her depression prior to the procedure. Maybe, she is experiencing some memory loss resulting from the procedure???? Now, I feel bad for her. I do not want to sound like I'm lacking in compassion. But, there should be a better way to treat her depression than through the usage of this risky procedure.
Jibjub1980 11 months ago
My mom had this done to her, and it worked so well!! It needed some time right away, but it did end up working!!
Blossombabe1104 1 year ago
They don't even do this anymore. As you can see it's an old film. Also causing someone to have a cesurae is so dangerous that it's against human rights to do this now. But I only speak for England. As far as I know it could still be a practice in America. But I very much doubt it.
OtiBixH 1 year ago
@OtiBixH It's definitely still in practice. Held the electrodes myself on rotation in medical school a couple years ago. It's done with anesthesia and muscle relaxants, painless, and quite effective. It can cause short-term memory loss, which is why the patient needs to be informed properly before treatment, but for many patients it is the only thing that works. The patients I spoke to were all very happy to be receiving working treatment after failures with other methods.
gingercandydish 1 year ago
@gingercandydish but its not used in these terms.
OtiBixH 1 year ago
not true, it is still carried out.
lauradougmeg 1 year ago
@OtiBixH It is still used in England, around 12,000 people still receive this kind of treatment (if you believe it works) every year. An estimated 70,000 people a year still receive ECT in America, so yes it is still used quite a lot.
imcharleshicks 1 year ago
@OtiBixH It is very much in practice in both England and the United States.
ganjisgood 11 months ago
Can she feel that while she's been put to sleep?
thefrickandfrackshow 1 year ago
Any Star Wars Fans....well Princess Liah is a big fan of ECT....google it....
suziescott2007 1 year ago
That looks like it hurts.
xXxSHOOPIExXx 1 year ago
its really useless and quackery of practising the ect.people should b aware of such practises.it has severe side affects ,n i dont agree with the ect.
drprithvi 1 year ago
@drprithvi ,,,I strongly disagree. I am/was severely depressed and suicidal and after 2 treatments ..2nd one being today I am already seeing a resounding improvement. Please dont knock something unless you have expreience to do so...many people can be helped with this treatment.
hattinghmeh 1 year ago 2
How stupid can people be to do this?
annybody with some education can known this AIN'T GOOD
TimeDefeater 1 year ago
@TimeDefeater --------I am not stupid in fact I am very well educated and ran a huge corporation.
I strongly disagree. I am/was severely depressed and suicidal and after 2 treatments ..2nd one being today I am already seeing a resounding improvement. Please dont knock something unless you have expreience to do so...many people can be helped with this treatment.
hattinghmeh 1 year ago
@hattinghmeh good for you
TimeDefeater 1 year ago
i'm scared.
culturedmonk 1 year ago
ECT has changed a lot over the years, but the fact remains that the brain isn't a broken car engine that can be fucking jumpstarted and brought back to a pristine state.
danthedream01 1 year ago
this shit is fucked up
MrEoz321 1 year ago
To those of you who are condemning ECT and making outlandish claims about how it causes brain damage, have you actually read more than a paragraph about the topic? Are you speaking from experience or do you at least know someone who's undergone the treatment? If not, you're just blowing steam out your ass so shut the fuck up you ignorant fucks.
SoloWing808 1 year ago 4
This is propaganda...
thelamb777 1 year ago
Shock therapy is just fucking nasty. It was practically inhumane back in the day when they did this to you while you were awake.
firebat42 1 year ago
How did this person get to this stage? I wonder about previous medications
21kaloma 1 year ago
The German state uses his secret service BND to systematically rape, torture and murder. My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half years. I recorded more than 450 hours on video which ended in the legal system. The BND continued under cover of the legal sytem to torture my brother for one and a half years. My brother was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage linked on my chanel. Whatever lie german snitchers tell you: Germany is the worst torture state on earth.
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zsezse215 1 year ago
Why would they give her muscle relaxers when she will obviously have trouble using her diaphragm muscles to breathe?
kaoruneko16 1 year ago
Clearly the majority of you are illeducated on the matter. I saw this treatment done to my mother when she was not in the right mind to negate or agree to the treatment. My father instead as her guardian allowed for this to happen. After seeing the treatment preformed on my mother I was not only scared for life but so was she. She no longer remembered she was married or that I was her daughter. Only now has she regained some of her memories.It was tragic..and it is inhumane
3miceli 1 year ago 38
@3miceli I'm sorry.
kaoruneko16 1 year ago