@KHLB516 the numbers wont add up??? As in Stan has BETTER numbers and Ben doesn't? As in stan lifts more than ben does, and has placed well enough to earn a pro card? As in ben 'i've not seen him on a major bodybuilding stage either' white? Tell me what MAJOR contests Ben has won, and I'll trump that with the NUMBER 1 RAW POWERLIFTER FULLSTOP. End of fucking discussion!
@pisswizzard EPIC win check your stats man cus even Stan said and it is documented that Ben White has Raw Bench Pressed either 605 or 606 I cant remember Stan has said that in a couple of interviews......O yea Ben won a show and finished third this year qualifiying for the MR O and he will finish top ten in the O next year.....Ben just started deadlifting last year and he is already pulling over 700 which isnt even close to Stans 821 But EPIC TIE BEN has Raw BENCHED 606
@EmmThree i never said he could even be a threat in shows.....he is an unquestioned monster in PL but I called him in an earlier post Stan "I cant place in a show" Efferding
Ben has done over 600 Raw before....I am a huge JOJ fan and Johnnie said before the competition between the two that Ben would get him on the bench but he would Destroy Ben on the deads and even worse if they were squating
The spotters kno what there doing man trust me That albany stength one of the most hardcore powerlifting gyms in NY state..... the guy on the left is sean culnan he pulled 782 at the classic this year.
Well he benches more than Johnnie Jackson......., but idk if he can deadlift or squat more. Johnnie Jacksons raw bench is about 470 and his suited is 600, but Ben can rep 500 raw in his prime.
O Really!?, Well find a vid of Johnnie benching 565 raw, I bet you can't. But a video you will find is him at a powerlifting meet in 2008 maxing out with a raw bench of 468 to be exact. Then he goes for 600 with a shirt. Johnnie always listed his bench at 545 or somewhere in the 500's but what they dont tell you is that that is really probably his shirted bench. If you can find a vid of Johnnie benching 500 anything RAW then I really would like to be proven wrong. I'm a fan of Johnnie Jackson
There's a video somewhere of Ben White benching 500 x 9 or 10 reps raw. And another of him benching 100 lb DBs for 50 reps and he doesn't even reach failure. It used to be on this site called irongame, but the site disappeared.
Thanks for the video upload. But what's funny is that's not even the same Ben White video I saw. The one I saw he's earing a blue t shirt and sniffs ammonia right before the lift. He gets 500x9 then as well.
johnny g55 u r a turd! u r a bitch kat...talking shit on line ...faggot...aint man enough to say it in person ho...eat a dick punk made bitch...scrawny coward.
natural my ass theyr strong but theyr strength is with steroids. and whichever dude jacks up more test and gh will have more power. those guys are gonna load hard
With respect, perhaps you may be interested in researching and educating yourself in the area of genetics, with particular emphasis on androgen receptors and muscle fiber variants. In time, youll realise how atrociously inaccurate your current perception & understanding of pharmacology is. Genetic predispositions ultimately determine our physical capabilities. If steroids were solely responsible for success, why isnt everyone who takes them benching 600lbs or competing for the Olympia?
i never said theyr everything. but for a fact both of those too will be on gear at theyr peak. they gauge theyr strength as genetic disposition cause theyr always ON. but if they had to go clean tey wouldnt be hittn these max poundages. its just a fact. now i agree that genetically they are superior even without the anabolics. but as a user myself i know whats up. if things go well ill be hittn the npc nationals in 2011.
To quote you "natural my ass theyr strong but theyr strength is with steroids". You are clearly saying that their strength is only the result of steroid use, and that is clearly inaccurate. Again, with respect, I don't think you should be making such sweeping generalisations without understanding the topic of debate. And using steroids doesn't mean you understand their biological influence. My training partner is natural and has a 400lb Bench and is getting stronger. You can't discount genetics
i didnt say its only the result of the anabolics. but they sure arent gona do the contest with being gassed to the max are they? you smart ass fuckin fool. yer a dumbass mother fucker sayn stupid shit. go suck yer natural lifting partners dick.
Why do you have to be insulting? Was I rude to you? Resulting to swearing is often the mechanic reaction to low intelligence, which would be a reasonable diagnosis considering your inability to articulate or utilise the English language. You clearly said that their strength is due to steroids and I simply corrected you. Being an internet tough guy doesnt exonerate your ignorance or lack of education, so dont embarrass yourself.
Sense at last. Unfortunately misinformed & inexperienced individuals believe steroids are the answer to everything. You highlight hard work, which is omitted from the above debate, but is obviously the alpha component of any world class physique. I completely agree.
This might be a stretch, but in my opinion bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen, and other strength athletes never have a very massive genetic advantage to begin with.
Usually the most gifted athletes fall into the most popular sports: Football, Basketball, Track & Field. But the guys who must spend a lot of time in the gym because they lack perfect genetics are the guys who end up being champion powerlifters and bodybuilders.
Please forgive me for discarding your preliterate opinions. You obviously have no knowledge or education in the area of debate, so Id only be humouring you with an academic response, which Im not going to do. I dont believe in patronising ignorance; it only perpetuates the individuals stunted intellect. I have no ill feeling towards you. I understand and sympathise with your situation. But YOU CAN change that. Education is there for everyone. Good luck.
I doubt you have anything more than a ba or ma degree go fuck yourself, and by the way Im done with school been there done that and graduated. My point is that no one cares what you are talking about go fuck yourself, Im sure you will break this comment down and try to respond like you are a fucking genius. Hahaha the funny thing is im almost positive im more educated than you i just really dont care to prove it.
You are naturally entitled to your opinions, although your need to swear in order to express yourself would suggest claims of being educated are nugatory. To suggest no one is interested in what I have to say but then continue with multiple responses to my observations & comments surely makes you a hypocrite? And how do you know what everyone wants? With respect, youre evidently not too bright or simply lacking in maturity. Time to move on. Good luck.
So in order to be educated you cant swear as a form of expression yeah your real bright, and you being from the UK makes this even greater, almost hypocritical in itself. Oh and Im also lacking maturity? I guess you think you know it all dont you. You have to be the biggest bore on a night out, and an even bigger pussy with no backbone. The fact of the matter is I will go further in my life than you will. Good luck on your epic quest to total maturity and expression sensitivity lol fuckin loser.
You couldnt resist responding yet again, but youre not interested in what I have say? The archetypal behaviour of someone struggling to justify themselves. And how is being from the UK hypocritical and how do my comments equate to having no back bone? Youre so desperately clutching at straws to argue with me when theres clearly nothing to argue about. Why be rude in the first place? Are you incapable of arguing a point constructively as an adult. Quite clearly, you are. Please grow up.
that lift is a result of steroids period he wouldnt get that much without them genetically he wouldnt lift that much with steroids he is. But Ben Whites head is genetically huge it looks like a mellon.
Great Job Ben...Dispite what anyone says, you were the nicest and most personable guy that I met at the Arnold Classic this year. Good Luck on stage next year!
This guy is the real deal powerlifter and bodybuilder. He lives in New York, however he does have strong ties to North Carolina. I talk with his cousin from time to time "pop" and the entire family is super strong. Pop is suppose to try to get BIG BEN to workout in our local gym when he comes to NC. I would love to see BIG BEN in action. I think BIG BEN was fourth in the last major NPC competition if not higher. Jsiegel and Getstrong you are each correct.
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whiyteboy 9 months ago
KSE rocks good video
Necromni 11 months ago
Is this geared?
DOEBOY546 1 year ago
for some reason I thought this was going to be a white guy...
FigerWiger 1 year ago
Fuck Stan White, he's a dick.
carloscazares13 1 year ago
Wish he could beat Stan "I cant place in a show" Efferding, but the numbers just wont add up
KHLB516 1 year ago
@KHLB516 the numbers wont add up??? As in Stan has BETTER numbers and Ben doesn't? As in stan lifts more than ben does, and has placed well enough to earn a pro card? As in ben 'i've not seen him on a major bodybuilding stage either' white? Tell me what MAJOR contests Ben has won, and I'll trump that with the NUMBER 1 RAW POWERLIFTER FULLSTOP. End of fucking discussion!
675 in a shirt? STan = 606 raw. Epic win.
pisswizzard 1 year ago
@pisswizzard EPIC win check your stats man cus even Stan said and it is documented that Ben White has Raw Bench Pressed either 605 or 606 I cant remember Stan has said that in a couple of interviews......O yea Ben won a show and finished third this year qualifiying for the MR O and he will finish top ten in the O next year.....Ben just started deadlifting last year and he is already pulling over 700 which isnt even close to Stans 821 But EPIC TIE BEN has Raw BENCHED 606
KHLB516 1 year ago
@KHLB516 stan is the worst bb out there. have you seen his shows?... he looks like shit with chicken legs
EmmThree 1 year ago
@EmmThree i never said he could even be a threat in shows.....he is an unquestioned monster in PL but I called him in an earlier post Stan "I cant place in a show" Efferding
KHLB516 1 year ago
@KHLB516 then why isnt Ben listed on the 600 raw list? oh, thats right, because Ben HAS NOT benched over 600 raw!
bench595 1 year ago
to tell you the truth i saw branch warren training with j, jacksonm and he was hell of a lot stronger
mikey777666 1 year ago
This guy benches waay more than johhnie jackson
MRBADASS46 1 year ago
Auu, Auuu,Auuuu!!!!!"Give them to eat", my saying[to the muscles] ;)
MrBuByLa 1 year ago
what does the term raw actually mean when lifting?
RINO92xxl 1 year ago
@RINO92xxl IT MEANS THAT ITS NOT COOKED DUMMY
unclepoepoe 1 year ago
@RINO92xxl "Raw" just means that the lift was performed without the aid of performance enhancing equipment such as bench shirts or lifting straps.
drtcan 1 year ago
EFFERDING OWNS YOU
buffvalley09 1 year ago
his bench is about the same as johnnies raw man this is shirted
pantherpowerlifter22 2 years ago
Ben has done over 600 Raw before....I am a huge JOJ fan and Johnnie said before the competition between the two that Ben would get him on the bench but he would Destroy Ben on the deads and even worse if they were squating
KHLB516 1 year ago
maybe he has a better bench but johnny will beat him in squat and deadlift
calicruisin 2 years ago 2
Was that "raw"?
jaimesandoval1988 2 years ago
nope!
MurdaMook011 2 years ago
No, although his RAW lifts don't seem too far off from his geared lifts.
cyberkai99 2 years ago
pretty sure he's wearing a bench shirt
abcd827 2 years ago 2
Seems like it, either way thats a lot of weight!
jaimesandoval1988 2 years ago
thats unreal these dudes can push that weight: his spotters need to learn how to spot that weight right from the sides better. bang dope!
fwaapo 2 years ago
The spotters kno what there doing man trust me That albany stength one of the most hardcore powerlifting gyms in NY state..... the guy on the left is sean culnan he pulled 782 at the classic this year.
ocpowerlifters 2 years ago
Yes hes on steroids, hes in the IFBB...
People who says otherwise make me laugh..really..
Skleevan 2 years ago 19
He name should be Ben Whitebeard..
Celebin 2 years ago 14
@Celebin LMAO...Now that's comedy man (:))
WilliamAllenTranc3 5 months ago
Well he benches more than Johnnie Jackson......., but idk if he can deadlift or squat more. Johnnie Jacksons raw bench is about 470 and his suited is 600, but Ben can rep 500 raw in his prime.
RJORRIS 3 years ago
Johnnie's raw bench is 565.
skybo053 3 years ago
O Really!?, Well find a vid of Johnnie benching 565 raw, I bet you can't. But a video you will find is him at a powerlifting meet in 2008 maxing out with a raw bench of 468 to be exact. Then he goes for 600 with a shirt. Johnnie always listed his bench at 545 or somewhere in the 500's but what they dont tell you is that that is really probably his shirted bench. If you can find a vid of Johnnie benching 500 anything RAW then I really would like to be proven wrong. I'm a fan of Johnnie Jackson
RJORRIS 3 years ago
johnnies raw is 600 bens is 645 johnnies dead is 800 something and no one knows bens but its not very good
jaceyin 2 years ago
What an ANIMAL!
SammyJ21 3 years ago
There's a video somewhere of Ben White benching 500 x 9 or 10 reps raw. And another of him benching 100 lb DBs for 50 reps and he doesn't even reach failure. It used to be on this site called irongame, but the site disappeared.
A550RGY 3 years ago
yes watch my video of him bench 505 for 9 reps just an awesome strength from a bodybuilder
shade1 2 years ago
Thanks for the video upload. But what's funny is that's not even the same Ben White video I saw. The one I saw he's earing a blue t shirt and sniffs ammonia right before the lift. He gets 500x9 then as well.
A550RGY 2 years ago
holy shit that guy is strong
meerolico 3 years ago
johnny g55 u r a turd! u r a bitch kat...talking shit on line ...faggot...aint man enough to say it in person ho...eat a dick punk made bitch...scrawny coward.
snuolnaes 3 years ago
yeah and johnny jackson is a pure natural. shut the fuck up
judgejury 3 years ago
omfg are u seious u think johnnie jackson is natural hahahahahha u dumb fucks
knuckles43 3 years ago
wtf man read more carefully and piss off
judgejury 3 years ago
i did read it fuck head
knuckles43 3 years ago
That's right, judgejury. Nothing but pure natural strength.
SJRogers 3 years ago
natural my ass theyr strong but theyr strength is with steroids. and whichever dude jacks up more test and gh will have more power. those guys are gonna load hard
fwaapo 2 years ago
With respect, perhaps you may be interested in researching and educating yourself in the area of genetics, with particular emphasis on androgen receptors and muscle fiber variants. In time, youll realise how atrociously inaccurate your current perception & understanding of pharmacology is. Genetic predispositions ultimately determine our physical capabilities. If steroids were solely responsible for success, why isnt everyone who takes them benching 600lbs or competing for the Olympia?
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
i never said theyr everything. but for a fact both of those too will be on gear at theyr peak. they gauge theyr strength as genetic disposition cause theyr always ON. but if they had to go clean tey wouldnt be hittn these max poundages. its just a fact. now i agree that genetically they are superior even without the anabolics. but as a user myself i know whats up. if things go well ill be hittn the npc nationals in 2011.
fwaapo 2 years ago
To quote you "natural my ass theyr strong but theyr strength is with steroids". You are clearly saying that their strength is only the result of steroid use, and that is clearly inaccurate. Again, with respect, I don't think you should be making such sweeping generalisations without understanding the topic of debate. And using steroids doesn't mean you understand their biological influence. My training partner is natural and has a 400lb Bench and is getting stronger. You can't discount genetics
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
i didnt say its only the result of the anabolics. but they sure arent gona do the contest with being gassed to the max are they? you smart ass fuckin fool. yer a dumbass mother fucker sayn stupid shit. go suck yer natural lifting partners dick.
fwaapo 2 years ago
Why do you have to be insulting? Was I rude to you? Resulting to swearing is often the mechanic reaction to low intelligence, which would be a reasonable diagnosis considering your inability to articulate or utilise the English language. You clearly said that their strength is due to steroids and I simply corrected you. Being an internet tough guy doesnt exonerate your ignorance or lack of education, so dont embarrass yourself.
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
Uh... Hard Work might have something to do with it too.
Genetic Superiority and Steroids alone do not make a champion.
ptarleton 2 years ago
Sense at last. Unfortunately misinformed & inexperienced individuals believe steroids are the answer to everything. You highlight hard work, which is omitted from the above debate, but is obviously the alpha component of any world class physique. I completely agree.
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
This might be a stretch, but in my opinion bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen, and other strength athletes never have a very massive genetic advantage to begin with.
Usually the most gifted athletes fall into the most popular sports: Football, Basketball, Track & Field. But the guys who must spend a lot of time in the gym because they lack perfect genetics are the guys who end up being champion powerlifters and bodybuilders.
That's JUST my opinion. By no means fact.
ptarleton 2 years ago
stop typing you are annoying as hell no one wants to debate with you know one cares about what you think no wonder your a solitary drifter.
jaceyin 2 years ago
Please forgive me for discarding your preliterate opinions. You obviously have no knowledge or education in the area of debate, so Id only be humouring you with an academic response, which Im not going to do. I dont believe in patronising ignorance; it only perpetuates the individuals stunted intellect. I have no ill feeling towards you. I understand and sympathise with your situation. But YOU CAN change that. Education is there for everyone. Good luck.
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
I doubt you have anything more than a ba or ma degree go fuck yourself, and by the way Im done with school been there done that and graduated. My point is that no one cares what you are talking about go fuck yourself, Im sure you will break this comment down and try to respond like you are a fucking genius. Hahaha the funny thing is im almost positive im more educated than you i just really dont care to prove it.
jaceyin 2 years ago
You are naturally entitled to your opinions, although your need to swear in order to express yourself would suggest claims of being educated are nugatory. To suggest no one is interested in what I have to say but then continue with multiple responses to my observations & comments surely makes you a hypocrite? And how do you know what everyone wants? With respect, youre evidently not too bright or simply lacking in maturity. Time to move on. Good luck.
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
So in order to be educated you cant swear as a form of expression yeah your real bright, and you being from the UK makes this even greater, almost hypocritical in itself. Oh and Im also lacking maturity? I guess you think you know it all dont you. You have to be the biggest bore on a night out, and an even bigger pussy with no backbone. The fact of the matter is I will go further in my life than you will. Good luck on your epic quest to total maturity and expression sensitivity lol fuckin loser.
jaceyin 2 years ago
You couldnt resist responding yet again, but youre not interested in what I have say? The archetypal behaviour of someone struggling to justify themselves. And how is being from the UK hypocritical and how do my comments equate to having no back bone? Youre so desperately clutching at straws to argue with me when theres clearly nothing to argue about. Why be rude in the first place? Are you incapable of arguing a point constructively as an adult. Quite clearly, you are. Please grow up.
SolitaryDrifter1 2 years ago
that lift is a result of steroids period he wouldnt get that much without them genetically he wouldnt lift that much with steroids he is. But Ben Whites head is genetically huge it looks like a mellon.
jaceyin 2 years ago
oh sooo sick to see him lifting to killswitch
gottogethuge 3 years ago
here jonnyg55 shut ur face... ben white is the man! OH YEAH!!!!
Kane1517 3 years ago
Great Job Ben...Dispite what anyone says, you were the nicest and most personable guy that I met at the Arnold Classic this year. Good Luck on stage next year!
mlippelt 3 years ago
wow suicide grip?
Cunnyfunt96 4 years ago
I don't remember seeing Ben White have a white mustache.
KingofZona 4 years ago
I know. Odd.
kaizenro 3 years ago
Killswitch engage pumps you up doesnt it, hell yeah.
Keep it up
stangkag 4 years ago 3
my favorate bodybulder
chrisfullofsteel 4 years ago
bodybuilder? you mean powerlifter?
TyJim 4 years ago
you mean powerlifter and just earned his pro card at the 2007 USA Bodybuilding championships
chrisfullofsteel 4 years ago
Oh really? I'm sorry, i've only seen his powerlifting videos i guess
TyJim 4 years ago
This guy is the real deal powerlifter and bodybuilder. He lives in New York, however he does have strong ties to North Carolina. I talk with his cousin from time to time "pop" and the entire family is super strong. Pop is suppose to try to get BIG BEN to workout in our local gym when he comes to NC. I would love to see BIG BEN in action. I think BIG BEN was fourth in the last major NPC competition if not higher. Jsiegel and Getstrong you are each correct.
berealtoit 4 years ago
He's from albany, new york... this video was taken at my gym, Albany Strength. Ben is now a top NPC bodybuilder.
jsiegel2 4 years ago
You bench 600+ and listen to Killswitch Engage? You are my new idol.
SchemeSC 5 years ago
woah this guys from here? what the fuck never heard of him
msd133 5 years ago
Hey, This strongman looks like someone I've heard about from North Carolina. very strong
getstrong 5 years ago