Yeah she definitely didn't want George around, wanted to move out, didn't want to stay there overnight, said he had a heart attack, said her parents were divorcing, that mom was leaving her the house, used cuss language with him, eluded to boyfriends he mistreated her, told him to get out of HER house, then all this happened around Father's Day. Then the weirdness of wanting to get it on camera that they had just begun to start building their relationship up again.
I started reading the new book on the case last night at about 6:00 pm. Did not put it down until 1:00 AM. It is really very good. She was mising a few things that I thought were key so far though. The fact that le told both Bozo and Jessie about the blowup on fathers day. And how Cindy sent her PI into the woods before the body was found, but does not take it further than that.
MOMMY, WHAT IS THAT DUCT TAPE FOR?? MOMMY, WHY ARE YOU HURTING ME, I LOVE YOU? MOMMY, STOP, I CAN'T BREATHE!!! MOMMY, i'M GETTING SLEEPY NOW. MOMMY, WHAT IS THAT TRASH BAG FOR?? MOMMY, I CAN'T STAY AWAKE...I HAVE TO GO NOW...I SEE JESUS....I..FORGIVE..U..M....
JESUS:
WELCOME MY PRECIOUS, BEAUTIFUL ANGEL. YOU ARE SAFE NOW AND NO ONE CAN EVER HURT YOU AGAIN.
CAYLEE: WHY DID MOMMY DO THIS TO ME?
SATAN: DON'T LOOK AT ME, NOT EVEN I WOULD GO THAT LOW. I HATE THE BITCH CASEY TOO!
Albatross I dont speak english well because I am profesional women from Mexico City, you have interesting opinions, sorry if I made a strong statement,
If Caylee is the product of incest, which could be the case for sure, I wonder, if Lee is the father and the Anthony's want it covered up, why give Caylee this name (Cay(sey)-Lee) as it would be the opposite of hiding the truth. But this family is very dysfunctional, so it wouldn't really surprise me. You have interesting things to say, Albatross.
Promiscuity can also come from Borderline and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, not only Sociopathy. Also, a child enjoying sexual abuse is more that the childs body is stimulated sexually and will have an automatic bodily response, which they are ashamed of as it makes them feel they somehow wanted it, while they didnt, but it felt good and bad at the same time, and this is very confusing and creates a lot of problems for the child.
Maybe all people with a history of incest are messed up, but that doesn't mean all messed up people have a history of incest. It's possible, but I don't see what real evidence you have for it.
When I first heard of Casey's promiscuity, my first thought was she is probably victim of incest, promiscuity is a hallmark behavior of this. Not every person that has been the victim of incest/ sexual abuse becomes promiscuous though, yet knowing someone is very promiscuous like Casey, there is a very high likelihood she was indeed molested. If you look into literature about sexual abuse/incest victims, you will see this is common. Noone knows for sure this happened with Casey, proof is needed.
I just want to point out that if KC was part of a result of incest she would exhibit poor health, fitness(#of offspring produced) and lower levels of fertility. If she is a result of imbreeding then she should have a history of health problems. Due to inbreeding there is a far higher phenotypic expression of deletious recessive genes. If KC was born then she would express some sort of deformity and undesireable traits. I think before you claim incest you should look into the family'shealthissues
Many of the ancient royals arranged incestious marriages to concentrate the wealth/power. Not every offspring will show negative results--sometimes you can get away with 2-3 generations without the surfacing of bad recesive genes appearing.
WHERE IS CAYLEE'S DADDY? Mom said he died, so he must be alive Cayless Dad is her next of kin,heir to books,photos etc. Anyone that had sex w.Casey Anthony 4 yrs ago, contact OPD for a free DNA test. Denied the right to know her Dad. Denied 2 know his name Denied the right 2 live past 3 but I left my DNA. Daddy please help me stop mommie from making a profit on me
Thanks, Albatross.. Just a thought about the "timeline".. I would think with ALL the publicity that has come out since this case "began," the workers at the retirement home could surely verify or witness to Caylee being there on Father's Day.. perhaps they even have visitor records? Security videotape? Would the Grandfather be able to answer that question? Is it too much for LE to look into? Just wondering...
Hey albatross!! What happened to your videos from OCT 14 and SEP 16? No longer available? Did YouTube do that? (just curious!) Looking forward to a NEW one!
Thankyou alb. like listening to your theories... feel sorry for Cindy? no way... just keep watching... I was raised in foster homes.. I know how deceitful people can be...i know people can be very cruel while playing the role of the good guy... now let me see if I can figure out how to rate...hmmmm..there it is...
I feel really sorry for the grandparents, they've lost their granddaughter and will be losing their daughter also. As a parent I think it would be hard to imagine your daughter doing something like this. they have to be in a great bit of denial, shock, confusion. I imagine they are like walking stressed zombie's.
Albatross---What degree in "psychiatric disorders" do you have? Would not Casey be tested for any mental illness as to rule out this assumption ?--If she did it--( I think she did) this girl is very very mentally ill.
She went to far in using the chloroform to put the child asleep. Incest played a part in Casey's life. Casey has psychosis. bi-polar, sociopathic and what i really feel is NARCISSTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER. She doesn't feel normal feelings. She is mentally ill. Yet is also aware from right and wrong. She is a FUNCTIONAL WHACK JOB. many of these Casey types are in our society. Their are teachers,doctors,lawyers,therapist,nurses,commom folk. Who withim them lie a dark false sense of self.
Interesting theory, Casey surely seemed to get annoyed with the love expressed toward Caylee and not herself. She stole from her family and friends and george even mentioned casey had been to court before, (my guess would be for fraud)
The video's date was confirmed by the police, obviously Cindy's mind is all jacked up because her grandaughter is dead (and she knows it) so she could not get it straight, (the dates) but the police have all of the evidence and they confirm everything.
How Cares If The Kid's Missing Fuck The This Case And These Crackas Hahah.emailo me a negative comment so i can get paid for it.And Don't Tell Me I'm A Sicko Cause I Don't Care. A Sicko Is A Phedofile Or A Murder Like This White Girl.A Sicko Isn't Somebody Who Doesn't Care About A Case HAHHAA.
I am not Cindy I am a clinical psichologist, you are making hipotesis about a family that is in big pain, try to put their shoes they lost a grandaughter.
Hey, hypothesis is not spelled "hipotesis" (for this chick "graciedector"). I HIGHLY doubt she is a "clinical "PSICHOLOGIST" (another misspelled word) Clinical Psychologist's are better educated then that, wouldn't you say Albatross? Don't trip, it sounds like you're on the right track, and for these retarded "uneducated" misspellers..... At LEAST make an effort to spell your words right. Clinical psychologist... Lol... Yeah, right. It doesn't look like it would be Cindy either, ya know?
'caylee' is made up of the other names 'casey' and 'lee'. maybe casey was the only one who knew that is was her brothers child and was terrified that would get discovered too.
Casey's parents were going to take a lie detector test but their son (Lee) said not do so. It would make life easier for FBI and other parties. Seems something could come out and feel they are afraid.
What reason would there be for relatives to refuse to take a Lie Detector test?
The only one I cAn think of is knowledge/participation of body disposal, Are their other reasons? I know if it was my grandchild I'd do anything to cooperate and eliminate me from the equation, so they wouldn't waste time and energy. Much of any investigation is a process of elimination.
What question could they possibly ask that would implicate an innocent person?
The time line was given through Tony and Lee's talks with police. Cindy is to upset and full of deniel make sense. Casey gives very little truth about anything. Police have tried to make it clear to the Anthony's what direction the case has taken and they are all in deniel now, one way or another.
Too bad that theory is not plausible. The police are the ones responsible for coming up with the date of june 15th. They pulled video from the Anthony's camcorder which is incripted with date and time.
The reason (?) for the Anthony's refusal to take lie detector tests is lame.
Can there be any reason other than the Anthony's not telling the police the truth? All that hoopla about the police not looking hard enough for Caylee, yet they refuse tests?
about the june 9th.date . my exact thoughts to.
lynnej1970 11 months ago
you are kind of a nut
deb816465 1 year ago
Casey must have absolutley hated her life. I wonder, what must that be like? It might make one so desperate to change it, they might do anything.
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago
Yeah she definitely didn't want George around, wanted to move out, didn't want to stay there overnight, said he had a heart attack, said her parents were divorcing, that mom was leaving her the house, used cuss language with him, eluded to boyfriends he mistreated her, told him to get out of HER house, then all this happened around Father's Day. Then the weirdness of wanting to get it on camera that they had just begun to start building their relationship up again.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
I started reading the new book on the case last night at about 6:00 pm. Did not put it down until 1:00 AM. It is really very good. She was mising a few things that I thought were key so far though. The fact that le told both Bozo and Jessie about the blowup on fathers day. And how Cindy sent her PI into the woods before the body was found, but does not take it further than that.
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CAYLEE:
MOMMY, WHAT IS THAT DUCT TAPE FOR?? MOMMY, WHY ARE YOU HURTING ME, I LOVE YOU? MOMMY, STOP, I CAN'T BREATHE!!! MOMMY, i'M GETTING SLEEPY NOW. MOMMY, WHAT IS THAT TRASH BAG FOR?? MOMMY, I CAN'T STAY AWAKE...I HAVE TO GO NOW...I SEE JESUS....I..FORGIVE..U..M....
JESUS:
WELCOME MY PRECIOUS, BEAUTIFUL ANGEL. YOU ARE SAFE NOW AND NO ONE CAN EVER HURT YOU AGAIN.
CAYLEE: WHY DID MOMMY DO THIS TO ME?
SATAN: DON'T LOOK AT ME, NOT EVEN I WOULD GO THAT LOW. I HATE THE BITCH CASEY TOO!
MYCHIDIZMYLIFE 3 years ago
Albatross I dont speak english well because I am profesional women from Mexico City, you have interesting opinions, sorry if I made a strong statement,
graciedector 3 years ago
There are many people who have suffered years of incest who are completely normal people
rjpoe 3 years ago 5
My last response was in answer to StephanieLin. I posted it under her post, but now shows up as a separate one, dont know how that happened! :)
summersonset 3 years ago
If Caylee is the product of incest, which could be the case for sure, I wonder, if Lee is the father and the Anthony's want it covered up, why give Caylee this name (Cay(sey)-Lee) as it would be the opposite of hiding the truth. But this family is very dysfunctional, so it wouldn't really surprise me. You have interesting things to say, Albatross.
summersonset 3 years ago 2
Promiscuity can also come from Borderline and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, not only Sociopathy. Also, a child enjoying sexual abuse is more that the childs body is stimulated sexually and will have an automatic bodily response, which they are ashamed of as it makes them feel they somehow wanted it, while they didnt, but it felt good and bad at the same time, and this is very confusing and creates a lot of problems for the child.
summersonset 3 years ago 3
Maybe all people with a history of incest are messed up, but that doesn't mean all messed up people have a history of incest. It's possible, but I don't see what real evidence you have for it.
StephanieLin 3 years ago 2
When I first heard of Casey's promiscuity, my first thought was she is probably victim of incest, promiscuity is a hallmark behavior of this. Not every person that has been the victim of incest/ sexual abuse becomes promiscuous though, yet knowing someone is very promiscuous like Casey, there is a very high likelihood she was indeed molested. If you look into literature about sexual abuse/incest victims, you will see this is common. Noone knows for sure this happened with Casey, proof is needed.
summersonset 3 years ago
I just want to point out that if KC was part of a result of incest she would exhibit poor health, fitness(#of offspring produced) and lower levels of fertility. If she is a result of imbreeding then she should have a history of health problems. Due to inbreeding there is a far higher phenotypic expression of deletious recessive genes. If KC was born then she would express some sort of deformity and undesireable traits. I think before you claim incest you should look into the family'shealthissues
premedlove3 3 years ago
Many of the ancient royals arranged incestious marriages to concentrate the wealth/power. Not every offspring will show negative results--sometimes you can get away with 2-3 generations without the surfacing of bad recesive genes appearing.
albatross234 3 years ago
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LadyMcHOLDEM 3 years ago
Thanks, Albatross.. Just a thought about the "timeline".. I would think with ALL the publicity that has come out since this case "began," the workers at the retirement home could surely verify or witness to Caylee being there on Father's Day.. perhaps they even have visitor records? Security videotape? Would the Grandfather be able to answer that question? Is it too much for LE to look into? Just wondering...
AmericaTops 3 years ago
Yes--tracked the log-in sheet going to LE showing both Cindy and Caylee there June 15th, Fathers' Day, so that's confirmed now.
albatross234 3 years ago
Hey albatross!! What happened to your videos from OCT 14 and SEP 16? No longer available? Did YouTube do that? (just curious!) Looking forward to a NEW one!
AmericaTops 3 years ago
Try this & report back:
Oct 14 incest
watch?v=cqQuCM0AP5Y
Sept. 16 incest
watch?v=8Dw0NkU9wx4
albatross234 3 years ago
Thankyou alb. like listening to your theories... feel sorry for Cindy? no way... just keep watching... I was raised in foster homes.. I know how deceitful people can be...i know people can be very cruel while playing the role of the good guy... now let me see if I can figure out how to rate...hmmmm..there it is...
HatRatt 3 years ago
I feel really sorry for the grandparents, they've lost their granddaughter and will be losing their daughter also. As a parent I think it would be hard to imagine your daughter doing something like this. they have to be in a great bit of denial, shock, confusion. I imagine they are like walking stressed zombie's.
denise3237841 3 years ago
Albatross---What degree in "psychiatric disorders" do you have? Would not Casey be tested for any mental illness as to rule out this assumption ?--If she did it--( I think she did) this girl is very very mentally ill.
pattixox 3 years ago
i always thought the grandfather did something to casy or even her daughter or was about toits all sad
brianlowdown 3 years ago
She went to far in using the chloroform to put the child asleep. Incest played a part in Casey's life. Casey has psychosis. bi-polar, sociopathic and what i really feel is NARCISSTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER. She doesn't feel normal feelings. She is mentally ill. Yet is also aware from right and wrong. She is a FUNCTIONAL WHACK JOB. many of these Casey types are in our society. Their are teachers,doctors,lawyers,therapist,nurses,commom folk. Who withim them lie a dark false sense of self.
Tozyea 3 years ago
Interesting theory, Casey surely seemed to get annoyed with the love expressed toward Caylee and not herself. She stole from her family and friends and george even mentioned casey had been to court before, (my guess would be for fraud)
harooni22 3 years ago
The video's date was confirmed by the police, obviously Cindy's mind is all jacked up because her grandaughter is dead (and she knows it) so she could not get it straight, (the dates) but the police have all of the evidence and they confirm everything.
Queenieinthehouse 3 years ago
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How Cares If The Kid's Missing Fuck The This Case And These Crackas Hahah.emailo me a negative comment so i can get paid for it.And Don't Tell Me I'm A Sicko Cause I Don't Care. A Sicko Is A Phedofile Or A Murder Like This White Girl.A Sicko Isn't Somebody Who Doesn't Care About A Case HAHHAA.
MajorAlbert 3 years ago
I am not Cindy I am a clinical psichologist, you are making hipotesis about a family that is in big pain, try to put their shoes they lost a grandaughter.
graciedector 3 years ago
Right. And I'm a " sergun". Now that we know how truthful you are, tell us why we should believe anything you say?
albatross234 3 years ago
Hey, hypothesis is not spelled "hipotesis" (for this chick "graciedector"). I HIGHLY doubt she is a "clinical "PSICHOLOGIST" (another misspelled word) Clinical Psychologist's are better educated then that, wouldn't you say Albatross? Don't trip, it sounds like you're on the right track, and for these retarded "uneducated" misspellers..... At LEAST make an effort to spell your words right. Clinical psychologist... Lol... Yeah, right. It doesn't look like it would be Cindy either, ya know?
Queenieinthehouse 3 years ago
ROFLMAO
rjpoe 3 years ago
the girl does not look like Lee she looks like
her grandmother Cindy, she is beautiful. Dont say false statements, you cannot prove it, dont put more fire,
graciedector 3 years ago
Ok, Cindy, if you say so.....
albatross234 3 years ago
'caylee' is made up of the other names 'casey' and 'lee'. maybe casey was the only one who knew that is was her brothers child and was terrified that would get discovered too.
JustUsIce 3 years ago 3
Cay-Lee. Wouldn't that be something!
albatross234 3 years ago
interesting theory. thanks for posting the video.
forestskog 3 years ago
Casey's parents were going to take a lie detector test but their son (Lee) said not do so. It would make life easier for FBI and other parties. Seems something could come out and feel they are afraid.
tcgbmark 3 years ago
What reason would there be for relatives to refuse to take a Lie Detector test?
The only one I cAn think of is knowledge/participation of body disposal, Are their other reasons? I know if it was my grandchild I'd do anything to cooperate and eliminate me from the equation, so they wouldn't waste time and energy. Much of any investigation is a process of elimination.
What question could they possibly ask that would implicate an innocent person?
albatross234 3 years ago
The time line was given through Tony and Lee's talks with police. Cindy is to upset and full of deniel make sense. Casey gives very little truth about anything. Police have tried to make it clear to the Anthony's what direction the case has taken and they are all in deniel now, one way or another.
tcgbmark 3 years ago
Too bad that theory is not plausible. The police are the ones responsible for coming up with the date of june 15th. They pulled video from the Anthony's camcorder which is incripted with date and time.
specialKremedy 3 years ago
The reason (?) for the Anthony's refusal to take lie detector tests is lame.
Can there be any reason other than the Anthony's not telling the police the truth? All that hoopla about the police not looking hard enough for Caylee, yet they refuse tests?
albatross234 3 years ago