Hitchens on Orwell part 1

[smurfieboo]

I wish Hitchens had spent the last decade of his life on more literary debate, given his unique take on the personal and political of writers like Orwell, rather than repeat himself over and over about Iraq and religion.

[noobler9]

so I'm watching this video, and suddenly, 00:16

I couldn't help a yelp of fear, then again I'm half asleep and about to dose off...

[ThingsTerrestrial]

THE CORPORATE CARTELS (married monopolies) control the content of the propaganda that's dressed up as news. Truly the dawning of Aquarius is the new age of indoctrination. Time with you is more of an annoyance than wearing a hat. All laws are commandments.

[OneDollarBook]

Ah...the subtleties of Orwellian NEWSPEAK vs. OLDSPEAK: world leaders were once foreign leaders...

[TheMobocracy]

North Korea is communist. They could not spend their money nukes and they'd still be living in poverty. Look at Cuba. Totalitarian economies have killed more people than every war combined.

[buewgewstmeiers]

you should all go find a quiet home in the country

[TheFutureUnquiet]

Who is the celestial embodiment of goodness? It's of no wonder as to why, it's a question that provides no cheer to squatters as Michael Jackson's presence was more powerful than 80 pounds of Ex-Lax.

[TheFutureUnquiet]

Ghetto culture aside: THEORY, by any book's definition, IS NOT a synonym for FACT.

[TheFutureUnquiet]

And through this portal (hidden within this pot-hole): We have the dabbler in homosexual deviance, the eugenics' quean Chrissy Hitchens, on his high horse proclaiming that George Orwell was of common intellect.

[nathanrlyne]

You're human waste. Run a knife across your neck.

[TheFutureUnquiet]

Your boyfriend loves you, at least.

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

@TheFutureUnquiet There is something almost pathological about you homophobes, how anyone can care so much about with whom someone goes to bed is beyond me.

As for Hitchens where do you get off accusing him of eugenics?

[TheFutureUnquiet]

My marooned sister: Hitchens often relates the exploits, in men's rooms, of his intimate male friends.

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

If it were true I wouldn't care, and more to the point whom do you presume yourself to be, to speak to me in this way?

I have my suspicions but I'll leave your own actions to either confirm or deny them. I will ask, whether you are a dove, a Christian, or both?

[TheFutureUnquiet]

Your personal life IS important. I'm here

for you Sister. Keep your baby. I care.

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

@TheFutureUnquiet I think I understand, you're a babbling loon, a troll, or both. Either way I've finished indulging you.

[OneDollarBook]

And through this portal (hidden within this pot-hole): We have the dabbler in homosexual deviance, the eugenics' quean Chrissy Hitchens, on his high horse proclaiming that George Orwell was of common intellect.

[iekenta03]

@GaiusIuliusTaberna I feel you. People should go to bed wit whoever they want...People need to stop thinking that just by saying it's ok for gays to do whatever they want,that their on the GAY side. I think the image of two men kissing is utterly disgusting..but i find two women kissing to be wonderful :).. if gay men want to do their gay things, let them..what are people so afraid of? even if your next door neighbor was gay,would u just see them having sex in the front yard?

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

@iekenta03 I think on some level they are trying to bluff their way out of long repressed homosexual urges, and on another its just something people are taught to do. Homophobia has been part of so called "family values" since the middle ages. Its one of those primitive backward things we need to get over in the course of human progress.

[gamesbok]

@iekenta03 Love between a woman and a woman is not a sin. It's not letting me watch that's a sin.

[dasnooker1]

I started to read my way through all of Orwell's books when i found out Hitches had written a book on him. so, than you Hitches for introducing me to a great author.

[dasnooker1]

the Bali bombing, not really in Australian atrocity, but still many Australians died.

[MrZakatista]

@dasnooker1 I think his point was that the Indonesian al qaeda cell responsible for the Bali bombing was attempting to kill western tourists in response to the Australian run UN peace keeping mission to East Timor. The East Timorese (Catholic) regained their independence from Indonesia (Muslim) in UN supervised elections.

[johntkucz]

boo..I like koreans!

[johntkucz]

what was the australian atrocity?

[johnnondrowsyd]

i love that picture of the workers.

[kipptumor]

Yes - They are probably assembling Happy meal toys.

[hackenbollox]

Intelligent! Any other pearls of wisdom you'd like to share?

[RicoRichmond]

Now there's a constructive statemant!

[Sshelly34213]

He's a libretarian

[tomwash1]

Orwell wasn't just talking about Communism, he was talking about Democracy aswell.

[RankAndFileGuy]

He was a skeptic of it all. Left, Right and his insight was groundbreaking back then, and argueably is til this day.

[theorganichispanic]

This man is so brilliant. I think it his gallant style of speech.

[bberntson]

Creepy how some of what he describes as N. Korean public information system resembles much of what we see on TV. And Hitch goes on Fox News pretty often.

[belzondium]

That is an extremely lame comment, and by attempting to make a moral equivalence between Western media and the N. Korean state, you are basically trivializing the depth and gravity of the N. Korean slave system. That's like comparing Abu Ghraib to the Holocaust (though that's something many complaisant western liberals are not above doing, I've noticed).

The very fact that you are free to spit on the freedoms you enjoy in this society speaks volumes about the falsity of your moral equivalence.

[bberntson]

My comment was not about moral equivalency, but propaganda. Your comment, in true propagandist fashion, throws out "slavery" and "Holocaust" to associate with mine. Did you go to Sean Hannity's class: Misrepresenting Reality for Scumbags?

[belzondium]

I don't give a shit about Fox News and you're amusingly obsessed with it. Nice chatting.

[earthypig]

the stuff going on in NK is way WAY way way beyond western propaganda. if u r caught listening to south korean pop music u are thrown in a prison where you are used as a human punch bag by the guards until you break every bone in your body. is that what FOX news is doing to you?

[PKwinsomee]

Well. I might say that intellectually speaking, that's exactly what watching FNC does to me -_-

[earthypig]

.......... intellectually speaking, such comparison for me even as a joke is in poor taste as it makes light of unimaginable sufferings by fellow human beings -_-

[koreindian1]

It doesn't matter what garbage Sean Hannity says. The fact that we have a pluralist cultural that permits all sorts of differing opinions sets us apart. The fact that you are being so stupid on your computer reflects this difference.

[davidoffon]

@belzondium The scale does not excuse the crime, the fact that it was totally un-necessary is more important. freedom is not enjoyable, when its only form is fiction.

[koreindian1]

You don't know anything about the state of North Korea. How dare you try to equate the condition of the North Korean people to that of the Americans.

[historywillabsolve]

respect the hitch!

[Mahoivlich]

been looking forward to hearing something by hitch on this topic....awesome post

[UbiquitousChe]

If I'm ever going to engange in a form of public speaking where I get introduced, I'm so stealing Hitchen's style - 'thank you for that... suspiciously grudging introduction' etc. :D

[EpicHiroDJ]

lol @ the hair removal pic : P

[aadoga7]

To the poster:

When and where did this discussion take place?

[hexag1]

somewhere in calif. 10-21-02

[spookyben]

@hexag1 Pretty sure it's the Commonwealth Club

[lollygager3664]

He is not nearly as portly as his critics love to claim.

[audioslave8]

His critics have nothing better to claim.

[lollygager3664]

lol

[truestefq]

Thanks for posting this! When and where was that done? Can I download it as a whole somewhere?