Communication Possibilities for Bug Out Situations Part 1

[Offthegridprepper]

i like the ideas! only thing is though, would you really bring your cell phone? or where you just give an example? in a bug out situation you wouldn't want to be found and cellc phones can be tracked. great vid though

[Tm30w06]

Those old radio shack radios were awesome at the time. Pretty much indestructable. I love old radio collections and yah everyone has their own ideas and personal preferences with this kind of thing.

[Tm30w06]

Holy cow ~ A radio Shack HTX-202 2 meter VHF ! That was my first 2 meter and that thing was a brick. Sucker weighed more then a building ! Those are some dinosaur radios for sure.

[locke6206]

@Tm30w06 Yes they are indeed old outdated radios. I would not intentionally show my own personal communication capabilities to the general public. These are intended only as examples of "modes" of operations.

[slinkydog2222]

Nice collection, this is what i'am lacking.

[trailkeeper]

I guess teach other family members how to work the radio also, maby even write the steps on a piece of paper and put ina plastic baggy.

[RayAir1]

Get a CB radio (27MHz), shortwave receiver that can do USB/LSB, and a couple of scanners.

For private group communications we use Nextel Direct Talk or Motorola DTR radios. Both cannot be monitored by radio scanning equipment as they are digital and utilize frequency hopping.

[kd5gua]

In a bug out situation, the ability to have low power output gets really important, as I haven't been in the woods anywhere I can remember where I saw any battery trees. Solar chargers are a big plus to have with such a collection of radios, and of course, rechargeable batteries for everything.

[stone4bread]

good video

[agun17]

Speaking on the radio when the SHTF is like shooting flares over you.

[kd5gua]

@agun17, that is a pretty good analogy. The part that is comforting is that no one will be looking for your "flares." Don't go all paranoid on us, lol. And, like a flare, signal can only been seen for a limited distance. Some radios can't be heard as far as a high altitude flare can be seen. Can't be heard, can't be located, moot issue. SHTF scenario likely won't include some forces being out there tracking radio signals, lol, that is pretty funny.

[kukulkan07]

Grate video..

thanks for the upload

[Channellock12]

I would like to add my 2 cents in. The need for DF equipment with low wattage radios is almost not needed due to the fact that they are already to close as in you being able to see them. By then it is to late.

[muffdiver0069]

Do Marine Communication do anything for ya? I saw a set at Academy Sports for a hundred per unit. What is the best Bug Out Radio to have besides a CB? Thanks

[kd7one]

In an immediate life and death situation the FCC rulebook gets tossed out the window and you are allowed to use ANY form of communications possible

[kd7one]

Good presentation

[solobackpacking]

LOL...

I haven't seen those huge heavy brick radios in over a decade. Batteries even work on those?

Check out Yaesu/icom/kenwood site for light compact modern radios.

[locke6206]

LOL.. I have plentyyyyyyyyyyy of modern radios.. 800Mhz trunk tracking radios, Ham radios, all kinds of small portable communications. These are BACKUP radios and do you think I will dare show what actual modern equipment I have in my possession? Sorry jack, do not desire to spread the wealth like brother Obama.

[kd5gua]

@locke6206, most of my ham buddies have the older radios, lol @ solobackpacking. When the #$%@ hits the fan, one will be lucky to have ANY selection of radios. Can see solo begging someone for their "huge heavy brick radio," cause he forgot his new icom. lol Depending on size of your family and then others that join you, you will likely be glad to have any extra handhelds you can come up with. Pawn shops are good places to get these cheap.

[coonrod1984mc]

does anyone know a good source where i could learn more on bug out radios?

[locke6206]

What would you like to know and i would be glad to try and help in anyway I can.

[bigc028282]

What happens when you mike one, and they track it? Initially you can use it, then I would break it. Maybe I am wrong? Tech is the hardest thing to plan for.

[locke6206]

Modern DFing equipment for low wattage output radios require close proximitiy to the signal and prolonged bursts of radio waves in order to triangulate the signal properly.  VHF high band radios that put out 10 plus watts are easily DF'd. Short traffic on low wattage radios are sufficient for tactial communications.

[bigc028282]

Thanks for the info! Keep up the information, you are helping people!! Is there a time frame in which "short traffic" is safe. Do you have a link for info relating to how long per radio, and groups talking? Like, can we have a 5 min conversation, back and forth, and be safe? Of can we speak for more than ?, per mike click. Hope this makes sense. Thanks again patriot.

[scdefion]

There are ways to defeat DF even for civilians. Packet radio is very very hard to DF. Also you can compress and encrypt almost any message with a small computer and the right software. It's cheap and most hams have the equipment and know how to use it even without a running power grid.

[Ayasdantsi]

Modern cell phones are bugged with GPS tracking chip, so when SHTF its not gonna be hard for "them" to find you and herd you away to one of their "camps"... Take heed to this warning!!! Drop you CP in the trash and pick up a set of CB radio's for your family instead!

[hrdknox2000]

I have medical skills but I'm wanting to design an emergency communications system for my family and "team". I don't have a helluva lot of money to spend on this. What would you suggest for cross country and intrastate comms in an emergency. I want to learn about this stuff on an amateur level.

[Ayasdantsi]

Sorry bud, unfortunately im not the right person to be asked about these things, Im not too familiar with comms equipment... All I have is a portable vehicular CB radio, and that can get only 10 miles, while also depending on the terrain... In any case they're probably gonna jam your equipment/signal if it exceeds ranges for cross country and intrastate comm?

Iridium satellite phone, maybe?

[haansgruber]

FRS radios sold cheaply, and in pairs

peace :)

[hrdknox2000]

What are FRS radios and where are they bought? Radio Shack? Wal-Mart?

[haansgruber]

Probably in both stores. They are small hand held radios (HT's, or handie talkies) for short distance comms such as vehicle to vehicle and the like. There are some repeaters in some areas. They repaet your HT signal and rebroadcast it from a high point (usually a high building top) to spread the signal. Amateur radio also uses this method (but according to some people requires a piece of paper in order to press the push to talk button and speak into the microphone)

peace :)

[scdefion]

For tactical unit comms go VHF at leats 5 Watts and get or make yourself a good roll - up type J- pole antenna. For cross country or state to state HF SSB something like a Yaesu FT - 817 nd and the right antennas. Give me a blast some time and I will help you on the tech stuff and sources. And yes I am a licensed ham operator.

[hrdknox2000]

Hey, I visited your page but couldn't find the message thing icon. Sen me a message, and I'll reply. I'd like to know more about the YaesuFT-817 and other long distance communications. Is that a system I can buy a little at a time and build? I have other questions. Thanks for getting back to me!

[lovedastench]

My dad told me about those dudes that pump up their radios and do that splib talk. They go hours and hours doing that stuff. From what I understand they go mobile.

[lovedastench]

I had a small set of hand helds. It said 20 miles. It was more like a half a mile and you had to be outdoors.

[locke6206]

Yeap you are definately right. Like I was saying in my video that FRS and GMRS radios will definately not do anything close to the advertised range on the boxes.

[SimpleDan76]

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