this costume looks great on 7 and fits his personality. but i love the costume he wears!! the question mark vest, the question mark umbrella, the scarf, and the adorable hat are so awesome!!!!!
a party popper? I can't bring myself to buy this DVD, as it still looks as horrible as it did on it's initial transmission. Sylv's a great chap, but he got off on the wrong foot here.
Met Sly once; he's more or less the guy you see before you in this clip! Great command of the language, can stir excitement by means of his tone, and a tiny bit absurd thanks to an intense sense of command springing from a hobbit-ish appearance. One of the best Doctors ever!
I was laughing a lot during this video. This is what Doctor who needs unexpected comedy. Sure the trademark lines are hilarious but they start to get repetative and expected. I mean seriously "GERONIMO!"?
Colin Baker's technicolor costume somehow manages to...well...WORK with Sylvester. I was actually disappointed he didn't stay in it for longer than twenty minutes or so.
@DannySchackart lol Yeah I reckon that was the longest the doc stayed in his previous incarnations outfit, and I enjoyed it too, he wasnt the same without the blonde curls but it was still cool in a way, I think matt Smith broke the record though cos he virtually spends the entire first episide running around in the torn shreds of tennants shirt and tie and pinstripe pants before he strips and gets the bow tie happening
@eateroftheflame - the series only survived because of what he was able to DO with the horrible writing they gave him. The stories started to get better - and the viewership started to pick up- so the BBC stopped bothering trying to piss the fans off and just axed the show
The only thing that bugs me about the McCoy era, from what I have seen was the use of all that glitter and such... Delta and the Bannermen- that one toll guy's suit, Greatest Show in the Galaxy, there as a lot of it there, too. It kinda makes it feel tacky, and not really Doctor Who
@Sentinal1140 Finally a fellow 7th Doc generation, I grew up watching this Doc too, well I say grew up, I only saw him for one year before the pricks axed it. I want Sly back sniff. :(
I like McCoy, but he was often hammy (evident here) and some of the episodes were appalling though this was obviously due to budget restrictions. Tom Baker always remains the most "natural" Doctor to me. Not the "best", as I like them all for one reason or another. Tom played the role eccentrically and he was fun to watch even when the script sucked. A lot of the other Doctors failed to take a bad script and turn it into a half-decent episode. But Tom always did his very best. "Jelly baby?" :)
@DavidLeeGold What about The enemy within and Rose.And I actually likes Robot but dosent like Castrovalva,strange because Peter davison is my favourit classic Doctor.
@TheMrOkamiden You can't really count "Enemy Within" or "Rose" because they're self contained stories. The Movie, while still considered canon, had too many outside influences. "Rose" was a new starting point - rebooting the series without actually rebooting it. Castrovalva had many good points in it, as well as bad. But Time and The Rani really had nothing redeeming about it at all. Pure drek start to finish.
@DavidLeeGold Okay now I know that.I actually like Castrovalva,but out of the Davison stories(I am at Snakedance right now)Castrovalva is the most boring one.The first episode is slow and when they are susposed to be scared or angry t,it dosent come out.Only Ainley and Davison are good in this story.The first cliffhanger is really slow and takes some time when the cliffhanger start it takes a while before it actually happens.Shall I continue.
@bluejeckett he said it himself in an interview.... thats how the doctor looked when he was younger and then he aged to the look of william.... and neither do i a change of personality caused him to decide to wear that! so......
He was a great Doctor and had some great stories. Remembrance of the Daleks and Survival are two of my favorite of all time--just stay the hell away from this and Delta and the Bannermen.
@daleksvscybermen You spelt Tom wrong. ;-) Colin was too pompous to even be in the top 3 - and his assistant was really no help (Peri) as a strong cast.
@daleksvscybermen Grade hated dr who which makes it even more outragous, Mccoy is my favorite doctor, Colin is also great. They should both have been treated better, also anyone who axes dr who, which grade did for 18 months, should be in prison for life, you just don't do that to dr who because its the greatest programme ever.
@daleksvscybermen Jonathan Powell, controller of BBC1 in 89, well, he'll go down in every whovian's bad books then. A shame he axed it before the 1990 series, season 27 sounded exciting, Ace going to Gallifray, a burgaler joining the 7th Doctor as a companion, but was intended to be Mccoy's last season, so I am grateful that he at least got to keep the role until 96 as he's my favourite. RTD is a jem for bringing back Dr Who, although he made 9 too working class and 10 too emotional for me.
@daleksvscybermen I think Matt Smith is brilliant as the Doctor, better than 9 and 10. David wasn't really that doctor-like anyway. I see Matt as a sort of "back to the good old days" doctor, which I like alot. I think Steven Moffat is excellent as head writer and as executive producer, better than RTD, who I think really came up with the whole human side of the doctor. So Steven is brilliant, Matt is brilliant, and I'm very much looking foward to the 2011 series.
@daleksvscybermen Thankyou, and one more thing, who do you think River Song is, I think she's either the Rani in a sort of human form or, I thought of this, the valeyard's wife.
@JoeConcerts I agree with that sentiment. Bloody RTD made Tennant border on emo and Eccleston was good in his own acting but didnt even have the appearance of the Doc so had little impact. I mean the Doc in a lleather jacket and v neck T? get real.
@bluejeckett Just goes to show how bad RTD's ideas were for the show, also alot of his writing was unbearable (Love & Monsters). Just wondering, Human Nature/Family of Blood, what do you make of that story, i know alot of people think its fantastic, but I don't really, I think its an excuse for Tennant to play a full human, as his doctor was very human anyway.
@JoeConcerts I wont say I was a huge fan of Love and Monsters but I do support any fresh writing perspective which that was. I'm not sure it really fitted the style of the show but there were a couple of episodes written from the perspective of a temporary character with little Who himself in it and ofcourse the infamous Blink was one of them and that's now legendary.
Personally I enjoyed the hidden Doc story, it was a cool new concept which The Master used as well. Tho I duno why he needed 2
@bluejeckett RTD did good on Turn Left aswell, he must have learnt a couple of tips off Moffat who wrote Blink. RTD did have his moments also, but not that many of them, he'll never go down in history as a second Robert Holmes (man he was such a brilliant writer!). Moffat in my opinion is a better show runner now, I watched season 31 last year and it was much more classic series orriantated than the RTD era, which I think is excellent. Matt Smith is a much better doctor than Tennant in my view.
@JoeConcerts I thought that two-parter was ridiculous, "He ran away because he was being kind..." "...the fury of the Time Lord". It was completely unnessessary for the Doctor to have done what he done. Just to save four evil heartless aliens, he hurled a huge weight of responsibilty on Martha, having her suffer racial abuse for a month, condemmed many people to death, the aliens nuked the village for gods sake.
@JoeConcerts I actually like the dalek story of season three better then the family of blood two parter,vecause the only good thing about the Human nature/Family of blood is the cliffhanger.
@TheMrOkamiden The Human Nature 2 parter was a bit unbearable to watch, especially with 'John Smith' complaining towards the end about the fact that he doesn't want to change back.-it just isn't what the show is about. Thank goodness 'Blink' came up next, moffat showing once again what a great writer he is.
Although I did feel slightly sorry for RTD, being humiliated just about every year by Moffat in terms of writing.
@JoeConcerts But you gotta emit that RTD was good at his season finalies.Talk about a Dalek version of the famous Earthshock cliffhanger in the second one,and in the third just pour Master ownage for everyone,and don't tell me you weren't shocked over how many Daleks thier were in Bad wolf.
@TheMrOkamiden First 3 finales were very good despite the doctor/Rose love story spoiling Doomsday a bit.-and yes those daleks coming out of the genesis ark hovering beside 'One Canada Square' will probably never leave my mind. The series 4 finale however in my opinion was at the point where the daleks were to the point of over-usage, and the way they were defeated in Journey's End was maybe too easy, with Donna only having to press a few buttons. I'm happy that Moffat now is resting them.
@TheMrOkamiden I think it technically was as the specials I think were still being labelled season 4. But Journeys End was the finale of the regular weekly 13 episode section of the series.
@JoeConcerts Okay.Thanks for the info,and I meant the cliffhanger in Army of ghost was a Dalek version of the famous Destroy them,destroy them at ones cliffhanger from Eartshock.Parting of the ways story and Doomsday story was one of the best DW stories I have seen.
@JoeConcerts I was actually scared by The waters of Mars and the only thing that Steven hasn't created that scares me is the Clockwork men from The girl in the fireplace,while from the monsters of season two,the sick people from New earth and The Ood scares me,and the concept of the Cybermen.
@TheMrOkamiden I still prefer the cybermen from Mondas, but the current are good aswell. I think they return in series 6 part 2 which as you probably already know starts a week from now. As for the Ood I'd like to see more of them, although me and some other fans rekon that the Silence (another Moffat creation) evolved out of them. That would develop the Ood very well in my view.
@JoeConcerts I think they are well developed enough.And what scares me is how they are when they have red eyes,and when they speak together like they did in the impossible planet.Wich if you ask me had an awsome cliffhanger.
@TheMrOkamiden It did. Also they looked so creepy with green eyes in 'The Doctor's Wife' aswell.
Yes TIP/TSP are great and think they one of the more classic who orientated storys to come out of the RTD era aswell as The Empty Child 2 parter, Blink, Silence in the Library 2 parter and Waters of Mars.
@JoeConcerts Those are some of the best New Who stories and have that classic feelings in them,those stories and TIP/STP have moments that would have been fitting if the show still was 20 min and had a cliffhanger everytime,there by most two parters fitts great with 4 parter stories of the old days,mostly fitting with the Davison eras ending theme.
@TheMrOkamiden I have to admit, despite other fans preferring 1-2 parters instead of 4-6 parters of the classic series and so on, I prefer the old setup slightly more, although the current set-up still works. Probably the one time where it didn't work as an advantage as such was probably the recent @The Doctor's Wife' story. It really should have been more than just the one episode because literally there was so many concepts and was slightly crammed, nonetheless a great episode.
@JoeConcerts Yes the doctors wife should have been a 2 parter while the flesh 2 parter should have been 1 because it wasn't so mutch content in it,same with Victory of the Daleks,it should have been cliffhangerd,but I am not saying that the angel 2 parter wasn't bad,not it was very good,but I thiink the silurians 2 parter would have worked better in the old format.
@TheMrOkamiden I rekon the flesh 2 parter would have been better if the 2nd part wasn't all over the place. The script seemed like a first draft sometimes as that some things didn't particulaly make sense (although great cliffhanger for AGMGTW. As for Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, in my view it sometimes had the creep factor of Blink, although not on the scale of Blink.
Favorite Matt Smith story for me probably 'The Doctor's Wife' followed by The Impossible Asteronaut 2 parter. Great storys
@TheMrOkamiden Yes, all over the place really. Some of the acting in particular was not great. The plot especially at one point was forced, especially when one of the skeleton crew acts like, I don't want to sound offensive, but she acts like a bitch for no real reason and start a war when the flesh are trying to get along with the real people. Also this two parter is dangerously similar to last year's The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood two parter.
@TheMrOkamiden Lol, ok then. Its very funny, especially when 7 threatens to wreck the lab. I think the aim to enjoy TATR and the rest of season 24 is not to take it so seriously as some fans do. The serious dark theme came the series after and the next one, especially stories like 'Remembrance of the Daleks' and 'The Curse of Fenric'.
@JoeConcerts Well when you are talking about dark.What do you think of the moffat era?And sorry for my rhyming,I have watched a walkthrough of Banjo & Kazooie and is now on Banjo & Tooie.
@TheMrOkamiden Ok then haha. I think the Moffat era is darker. I think fans were greatfull for RTD bringing the show back, but they probably thought "Could the show be a bit more darker?" thoughts like that. I think that now the fans have been rewarded in a way. Yes the Tennant/Rose lovers have pretty much moved on now but the true fans of the show have stayed, and in my opinion, this era of Dr Who is hands down better than the RTD era, and one of the best in the show's history in my view.
@JoeConcerts Well,what do you think og the diffrent Doctors era's?Also why would The Doctor want to take a vecation?You and all the others are so right about this.This is laugh out laud in its highest moment.
@JoeConcerts Well the thing is I don't associate dark=good. its just a different style is all. eg Pertwee's era wasn't as dark as Baker's. Davison's wasn't as dark as pertwee's and for my money i don't think the Moff's era has overall been the darkest the show ever has. they are all good in their own ways. IMO i prefer RTD's era and think that was a very special time to be a fan. however, the Moff's era is just amazing too. its more a style thing than anything
@daleksvscybermen Hmm not many people were big on Colin Baker, he made the Doc too pompous for his own good but Sly was good yes, too bad he got laboured with some juvenile scripts in his first series and then barely had time to give some depth in the second before dickwad Grade axed the show
@bluejeckett Bear in mind that Colin was not allowed a single bit of input to his character. Colin originally suggested that his doctor wear black velvet and didn't want to play it so pompous. But the powers that be made him do it so that they could kill the show and blame it on Colin. The same thing also happened during Sylvester's first season. Two great doctors, really bad writers
@daleksvscybermen I dunno why they didnt just remove the show if they were so hellbent on destroying it. You get all this bitching about John nathan Turner ruined it or Grade ruined it but maybe the writers were running out of ideas and too busy stuck in the old days of Who where childlike entertainment sufficed in an early evening timeslot. By the 80s and especially late 80s this kind of pantomime was positively arcane for prime time televison and i dont think that helped. Television changed
@bluejeckett Because if they just killed it ther would still be a chance of it coming back but if they dragged it on with awful stories then kill it would have meant that they couldn't bring it back
@GregSmeg He was one of the best doctors in most fans opinions actually. If your gonna complain about someone, choose the scriptwriters. It was their doings that caused the series to be cancelled. I doubt you would make a better doctor.
@GregSmeg Cows Balls! slyvester was a great actor as doctor who. His odd style and zany attitude made him perfect. You have to remember that the doctor isn't human. He portrayed it perfectly. If you think i'm one of the first to say he was one of the best doctors, you really need to update your who-facts, because he has billions of followers as a good doctor in general. You would make a better doctor eh? i doubt that, I only have your word.
@TheBambiniGiant I agree with you on that, the 7th was one of the greatest, the 9th doctor was the worst by far, but im not saying he was rubbish, he was just the bottom of the best, you know
I dig her big hair! When the doctor fell down the stairs, I couldn't stop laughing. And what the heck was that big zit on her nose in the last few seconds?
I grew to like Sylvester, but not through these early scenes of his. I mean the man fell over for heavens sake. This was a dark time for writing on Doctor. Though I watched every episode, it was tough with silliness like this.
@tron81 The early McCoy ones are kind of silly but Remembrance of the Daleks, Silver Nemesis and Curse of Fenric are great. Battlefield's alright too. The Doctor started to get some real darkness even before the new series, watch Remembrance to see what I mean.
@tron81 well, this is one of the worst who stories ever, so the majority of NuWho episodes are better than this (but there are a few classic who stories which are better than all NuWho episodes)
@tourdeforce17 I watched the Old Who story "Genesis of the Daleks" recently and thought it was good. I'd like to see NuWho have more longer, multipart stories like that.
Superb video quality on this clip. Though the story, acting, and general production value show exactly why at this time Who was a programme heading down the dead end of Cancellation Row.
Thank goodness he abandoned that umbrella in later generations! NuWho needs to have a sexy Time Lady that will challenge the Doctor. It would be hot. If the Rani was banished from Gallifrey could she have survived the Time War?
This scene seems ridiculous out of context, because the first five minutes of "Time & the Rani" are.... ridiculous, actually.
Give the whole story an actual chance when it comes out on DVD later this year. I've never heard a word against T&tR from anyone who's actually seen it.
I'd forgotten just how ropey McCoys first scene was...terrible stage style kiddy acting. Must have been the writing and direction though because he was ok after that, never my favouirte or a great but ok...
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Jesus i forgot just how bad it went in its later years......i hated mccoy.....biggest pile of crap
that ever set foot in the tardis. Cannot act for a jelly baby......The writting was as bad as RTD's attempts too. Thank got Moffat is taking the head chair.....someone who gets what Doctor Who should be about. Hopefully it could be another Hinchcliffe era :o)
Do you really think Moffat will write and produce anything better than the rubbish RTD came up with?
Because I don't, so expect more of the same crap from Moffat that we saw under RTD.
The Hinchcliffe era will never be bettered, not as long as we have the likes of RTD and Moffat in charge.
They claim to be Doctor Who fans yet seem adamant on ruining the character of the Doctor by making him too human and focusing on the companions too much!
Maybe that is wishfull thinking on my part...but i dont know how you can rraise RTD from the overhyped shite bin and compare him to Moffat.....ive enjoyed all moffats stories and hated practically everything RTD touches with his self gratifying fat paws, anyway...im looking forward to the new series more than i have the last ones.....we shall see
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the highly irritating and so stuck up his own backside RTD whatsoever, but why you are sticking Moffat up on a pedestal is beyond me?
Moffat is one of the main culprits for adding the "romance" element in NuWho with the likes of Madame de Pompadour and River Song, sorry, but this isn't what I class a Doctor Who.
Don't forget Moffat wrote tripe like Time Crash (with the Master goatee joke that wasn't even funny?) and Curse of the Fatal Death too (a Doctor Who parody for Children in Need years ago) so be very careful what you wish for when it comes to NuWho
Wait and see, but it'll be exactly the same rubbish in 2010 than we've had with RTD since 2005.
In my opinion, the Hinchcliffe era will never be bettered, trust me.
@thematser - It seems we share the same views concerning RTD (which seems to cause people to mark down our remarks) but seem to differ concerning Moffats' takeover.
I really can't see NuWho changing that much, as I can't see the BBC wanting to spoil the shows new found popularity, so they'll keep it dumbed down and simplified for todays' audience...
...just to think you'd have been ridiculed for being a Doctor Who fan back in the1980s.
Well, I don't blame Moffat. I actually think he's a brilliant writer. I mean, he has to pick up where RTD left off. Pretty much, RTD made the Doctor the last of the time lords. It does make him more human. Earth is his only home left. So yes of course he'd be more human. I didn't like the Tenth Doctor towards the end. He was too emo. However, I thought he was brilliant in his first series. Sorta went downhill from there. Although the first half of the fourth series wasn't bad either.
While there was romance in Moffat's stories, The Girl in the Fireplace seemed a little more fun in a way. When he kissed Madame, realization set in and he just laughed at it. Which I thought went pretty well. As for River Song, that's a brilliant character. She knew more about the Doctor then himself which was a great change for once. I don't mind being a little romance here and there, it's the emo depressing bit that's annoying. Like in the last special. Ugh. That was seriously retarded.
Why all of a sudden do we need romance in Doctor Who regarding the shows main character?
The series managed perfectly well without it from 1963 to 1989.
What "so-called fans" RTD and Moffat seem to forget is that the Doctor character is an alien from another world, not some bloke from earth who fancies earthlings and relies on them to save the day.
What exactly is so brilliant about the River Song character, please enlighten me because I don't honestly see it?
We don't need Romance. I just said I don't mind it. The Doctor is an old fella, and I'm pretty sure it's been a long time since any romance actually occurred to him. Regardless, I don't really blame it on Moffat. And I actually don't blame it on RTD either. Someone decided the 1996 movie was canon which changed the out look on it really.
He's.....so......cute *_*
lankycrab 2 weeks ago
I now see the difference between the BBC copies and copies digitally extracted from VHS tapes... Oh man.
LokianEule 3 weeks ago
Wait. So, is the Pyramid thing in Rani's lab the TARDIS?
TARDISFanMan 3 weeks ago
and under acting*
mikevailprodutions 1 month ago
over acting and over acting in perfect unison its so amazing
mikevailprodutions 1 month ago
Cool taser. Finally figured out what that would have been the equivalent of with the light show.
fgmPostApocalypticTV 1 month ago
"Nyaaaaaaaaa noooo meelllll..." ........ "NYA!" *video froze*
TwinkleVoice1 1 month ago
XDD When he trips on the stairs
Twice
He's so adorable.
therealcritic28 1 month ago
I love Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor.
MrVercettti 1 month ago
THE CAKE IS A LIE
thedudecomputer 2 months ago
@thedudecomputer Cake always is a lie, according to the book of Proverbs.
fgmPostApocalypticTV 1 month ago
2:35 "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GLITTER. my only weakness"
227060 2 months ago 14
Has anybody noticed that 6's outfit had shrunk to fit 7?
jamesknight626 3 months ago
this costume looks great on 7 and fits his personality. but i love the costume he wears!! the question mark vest, the question mark umbrella, the scarf, and the adorable hat are so awesome!!!!!
Lmaokid1 3 months ago
a party popper? I can't bring myself to buy this DVD, as it still looks as horrible as it did on it's initial transmission. Sylv's a great chap, but he got off on the wrong foot here.
JojoChampion 3 months ago
Met Sly once; he's more or less the guy you see before you in this clip! Great command of the language, can stir excitement by means of his tone, and a tiny bit absurd thanks to an intense sense of command springing from a hobbit-ish appearance. One of the best Doctors ever!
diddymuck 4 months ago 4
And who are you!!!
DCdabest 5 months ago 2
A very underrated story IMO and a nicely written scene!
SonofaReaperMan 6 months ago
0:36 tardus
ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG 6 months ago
I was laughing a lot during this video. This is what Doctor who needs unexpected comedy. Sure the trademark lines are hilarious but they start to get repetative and expected. I mean seriously "GERONIMO!"?
GenjiSleepsowo 6 months ago
Who the fuck wrote this?
skitster 7 months ago
They should totally bring back the Rani, as well as Romana, Susan and other time lords that survived!
CB774172 7 months ago
I Believe This Was A Video Clip From The Episode Of "Doctor Who" On September 7, 1987.
radiodj1520 8 months ago
come back kate o mara!
MrClassicDoctorWho 8 months ago
Doctor:Where am I. Who am I. AND WHO R U!!!
me:XD
TorterraMan3000 8 months ago
Terrible. Just... terrible.
snazzmaster 9 months ago
felicia day for the new RANI
mrcant1 1 year ago
Helena Bonham Carter as the Rani
if anyone
powerhousechipmunk23 1 year ago
Fortunately, we can just fanwank this as Post-Regeneration trauma.
It's a season long stretch, I admit.
CardboardtubeNinja 1 year ago
Chewbacca at 2:30 :)
shnyder 1 year ago
what monstorous experiment are dabbiling now!?
love that line!
skytalker707 1 year ago
0:52 lol!
TorterraMan3000 1 year ago
Colin Baker's technicolor costume somehow manages to...well...WORK with Sylvester. I was actually disappointed he didn't stay in it for longer than twenty minutes or so.
DannySchackart 1 year ago 4
@DannySchackart lol Yeah I reckon that was the longest the doc stayed in his previous incarnations outfit, and I enjoyed it too, he wasnt the same without the blonde curls but it was still cool in a way, I think matt Smith broke the record though cos he virtually spends the entire first episide running around in the torn shreds of tennants shirt and tie and pinstripe pants before he strips and gets the bow tie happening
bluejeckett 11 months ago
Colins suit actually, well, suits Sylvester
mintyspace 1 year ago 4
What year was this made ? I'm thinking late 80's early 90's
TheKingFucktard 1 year ago
@TheKingFucktard 1987
drwhotvwam 1 year ago
The only problem with this scene really was the falling over.
all13Doctors 1 year ago
This story might be one of the least favourite of the classic series but I would still rather watch this than any episode of the new series :)
zagreus316 1 year ago
Poor Sylvester, if all his episodes had the quality of his last season he could have saved the series.
eateroftheflame 1 year ago
@eateroftheflame - the series only survived because of what he was able to DO with the horrible writing they gave him. The stories started to get better - and the viewership started to pick up- so the BBC stopped bothering trying to piss the fans off and just axed the show
2Scribble 1 year ago
The only thing that bugs me about the McCoy era, from what I have seen was the use of all that glitter and such... Delta and the Bannermen- that one toll guy's suit, Greatest Show in the Galaxy, there as a lot of it there, too. It kinda makes it feel tacky, and not really Doctor Who
danielchance 1 year ago
After reading some of these comments, i just seriously can't believe that there's sooo much bitchiness going around on Youtube
TheHutchhickersGuide 1 year ago
I think McCoy is under apreciated, he was the doctor that i watched when I was a kid and he did a good enough job to get me hocked as a kid.
Sentinal1140 1 year ago
@Sentinal1140 Finally a fellow 7th Doc generation, I grew up watching this Doc too, well I say grew up, I only saw him for one year before the pricks axed it. I want Sly back sniff. :(
bluejeckett 11 months ago
Colin's waistcoats were wicked coool.
CaptainRhoo 1 year ago
I... the hell did I just watch? (Loving her shoulder pads, though.)
Ayries 1 year ago
I like McCoy, but he was often hammy (evident here) and some of the episodes were appalling though this was obviously due to budget restrictions. Tom Baker always remains the most "natural" Doctor to me. Not the "best", as I like them all for one reason or another. Tom played the role eccentrically and he was fun to watch even when the script sucked. A lot of the other Doctors failed to take a bad script and turn it into a half-decent episode. But Tom always did his very best. "Jelly baby?" :)
MarcusBritish 1 year ago
(sigh) Sadly, worst post regeneration episode ever. Makes Twin Dilemma look like Shakespeare.
DavidLeeGold 1 year ago
@DavidLeeGold THE HELL?! Are you SERIOUS!!?? Twin Dilemma was fucking awful, this episode was pure gold compared to that pile of sh*te!
n9ne2006 1 year ago
@n9ne2006 Cant say I remember Twin Dilemma vividly but I dont recall it being that bad
bluejeckett 11 months ago
(sigh) Sadly, worst post regeneration episode ever. Makes Twin Dilemma look like Shakespeare.
DavidLeeGold 1 year ago
@DavidLeeGold What about The enemy within and Rose.And I actually likes Robot but dosent like Castrovalva,strange because Peter davison is my favourit classic Doctor.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden You can't really count "Enemy Within" or "Rose" because they're self contained stories. The Movie, while still considered canon, had too many outside influences. "Rose" was a new starting point - rebooting the series without actually rebooting it. Castrovalva had many good points in it, as well as bad. But Time and The Rani really had nothing redeeming about it at all. Pure drek start to finish.
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DavidLeeGold 6 months ago
@DavidLeeGold Okay now I know that.I actually like Castrovalva,but out of the Davison stories(I am at Snakedance right now)Castrovalva is the most boring one.The first episode is slow and when they are susposed to be scared or angry t,it dosent come out.Only Ainley and Davison are good in this story.The first cliffhanger is really slow and takes some time when the cliffhanger start it takes a while before it actually happens.Shall I continue.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
LOL the clothes!!! xD
prn1111 1 year ago
@prn1111 yh they rock and this idiot stole colins clothes. lol jk i like sylv hes a ok dr. the baker coat suits him. like the 11th's crash clothing
CardClashersHub 1 year ago
7th dr (mccoy) was meant to be the original look of the doctor
TARDISkey123 1 year ago
@TARDISkey123 Original look? U mean in 1963 when it started? I dont recall anyone saying a question mark vest was what William was going to wear
bluejeckett 11 months ago
@bluejeckett he said it himself in an interview.... thats how the doctor looked when he was younger and then he aged to the look of william.... and neither do i a change of personality caused him to decide to wear that! so......
TARDISkey123 11 months ago
God how i love the suit.
BravoBound 1 year ago
those were dark days.
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
He was a great Doctor and had some great stories. Remembrance of the Daleks and Survival are two of my favorite of all time--just stay the hell away from this and Delta and the Bannermen.
duuude4 1 year ago
little midget
CardClashersHub 1 year ago
Colin baker and sylvester mccoy were easily the 2 best doctors. but micheal (cunt) grade treated them like shit!!!!!!!
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago 22
@daleksvscybermen You spelt Tom wrong. ;-) Colin was too pompous to even be in the top 3 - and his assistant was really no help (Peri) as a strong cast.
MarcusBritish 1 year ago
@daleksvscybermen Grade hated dr who which makes it even more outragous, Mccoy is my favorite doctor, Colin is also great. They should both have been treated better, also anyone who axes dr who, which grade did for 18 months, should be in prison for life, you just don't do that to dr who because its the greatest programme ever.
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts agree with every word!
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
@daleksvscybermen I cant remember who axed the classic series compleatly but whoever did should have then have had a death sentence.
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts indeed, i think his name was jonathan powell
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
@daleksvscybermen Jonathan Powell, controller of BBC1 in 89, well, he'll go down in every whovian's bad books then. A shame he axed it before the 1990 series, season 27 sounded exciting, Ace going to Gallifray, a burgaler joining the 7th Doctor as a companion, but was intended to be Mccoy's last season, so I am grateful that he at least got to keep the role until 96 as he's my favourite. RTD is a jem for bringing back Dr Who, although he made 9 too working class and 10 too emotional for me.
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts Indeed, powell is an idiot. and BTW, whats your opinion of 11? I think he's great. By far the best of the new series doctors.
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
@daleksvscybermen I think Matt Smith is brilliant as the Doctor, better than 9 and 10. David wasn't really that doctor-like anyway. I see Matt as a sort of "back to the good old days" doctor, which I like alot. I think Steven Moffat is excellent as head writer and as executive producer, better than RTD, who I think really came up with the whole human side of the doctor. So Steven is brilliant, Matt is brilliant, and I'm very much looking foward to the 2011 series.
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts Finally, someone who agrees with me
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
@daleksvscybermen Thankyou, and one more thing, who do you think River Song is, I think she's either the Rani in a sort of human form or, I thought of this, the valeyard's wife.
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts AMEN!!
Mutant45825243 1 year ago
@daleksvscybermen Oh yes! Eleven fans FTW
Mutant45825243 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts I agree with that sentiment. Bloody RTD made Tennant border on emo and Eccleston was good in his own acting but didnt even have the appearance of the Doc so had little impact. I mean the Doc in a lleather jacket and v neck T? get real.
bluejeckett 11 months ago
@bluejeckett Just goes to show how bad RTD's ideas were for the show, also alot of his writing was unbearable (Love & Monsters). Just wondering, Human Nature/Family of Blood, what do you make of that story, i know alot of people think its fantastic, but I don't really, I think its an excuse for Tennant to play a full human, as his doctor was very human anyway.
JoeConcerts 11 months ago
@JoeConcerts I wont say I was a huge fan of Love and Monsters but I do support any fresh writing perspective which that was. I'm not sure it really fitted the style of the show but there were a couple of episodes written from the perspective of a temporary character with little Who himself in it and ofcourse the infamous Blink was one of them and that's now legendary.
Personally I enjoyed the hidden Doc story, it was a cool new concept which The Master used as well. Tho I duno why he needed 2
bluejeckett 11 months ago
@bluejeckett RTD did good on Turn Left aswell, he must have learnt a couple of tips off Moffat who wrote Blink. RTD did have his moments also, but not that many of them, he'll never go down in history as a second Robert Holmes (man he was such a brilliant writer!). Moffat in my opinion is a better show runner now, I watched season 31 last year and it was much more classic series orriantated than the RTD era, which I think is excellent. Matt Smith is a much better doctor than Tennant in my view.
JoeConcerts 11 months ago
@JoeConcerts I thought that two-parter was ridiculous, "He ran away because he was being kind..." "...the fury of the Time Lord". It was completely unnessessary for the Doctor to have done what he done. Just to save four evil heartless aliens, he hurled a huge weight of responsibilty on Martha, having her suffer racial abuse for a month, condemmed many people to death, the aliens nuked the village for gods sake.
MrThermomanPreacher 11 months ago
@JoeConcerts I actually like the dalek story of season three better then the family of blood two parter,vecause the only good thing about the Human nature/Family of blood is the cliffhanger.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden The Human Nature 2 parter was a bit unbearable to watch, especially with 'John Smith' complaining towards the end about the fact that he doesn't want to change back.-it just isn't what the show is about. Thank goodness 'Blink' came up next, moffat showing once again what a great writer he is.
Although I did feel slightly sorry for RTD, being humiliated just about every year by Moffat in terms of writing.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts But you gotta emit that RTD was good at his season finalies.Talk about a Dalek version of the famous Earthshock cliffhanger in the second one,and in the third just pour Master ownage for everyone,and don't tell me you weren't shocked over how many Daleks thier were in Bad wolf.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden First 3 finales were very good despite the doctor/Rose love story spoiling Doomsday a bit.-and yes those daleks coming out of the genesis ark hovering beside 'One Canada Square' will probably never leave my mind. The series 4 finale however in my opinion was at the point where the daleks were to the point of over-usage, and the way they were defeated in Journey's End was maybe too easy, with Donna only having to press a few buttons. I'm happy that Moffat now is resting them.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Actually Donna have many of my favourit Who moments,espacially that one.I thought that TEOT was the season final.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden I think it technically was as the specials I think were still being labelled season 4. But Journeys End was the finale of the regular weekly 13 episode section of the series.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Okay.Thanks for the info,and I meant the cliffhanger in Army of ghost was a Dalek version of the famous Destroy them,destroy them at ones cliffhanger from Eartshock.Parting of the ways story and Doomsday story was one of the best DW stories I have seen.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden Ok then sorry my mistake, and yes those are very good stories.
My favorite DW stories are 'Waters of Mars' and 'Caves of Androzani'.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts I was actually scared by The waters of Mars and the only thing that Steven hasn't created that scares me is the Clockwork men from The girl in the fireplace,while from the monsters of season two,the sick people from New earth and The Ood scares me,and the concept of the Cybermen.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden I still prefer the cybermen from Mondas, but the current are good aswell. I think they return in series 6 part 2 which as you probably already know starts a week from now. As for the Ood I'd like to see more of them, although me and some other fans rekon that the Silence (another Moffat creation) evolved out of them. That would develop the Ood very well in my view.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts I think they are well developed enough.And what scares me is how they are when they have red eyes,and when they speak together like they did in the impossible planet.Wich if you ask me had an awsome cliffhanger.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden It did. Also they looked so creepy with green eyes in 'The Doctor's Wife' aswell.
Yes TIP/TSP are great and think they one of the more classic who orientated storys to come out of the RTD era aswell as The Empty Child 2 parter, Blink, Silence in the Library 2 parter and Waters of Mars.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Those are some of the best New Who stories and have that classic feelings in them,those stories and TIP/STP have moments that would have been fitting if the show still was 20 min and had a cliffhanger everytime,there by most two parters fitts great with 4 parter stories of the old days,mostly fitting with the Davison eras ending theme.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden I have to admit, despite other fans preferring 1-2 parters instead of 4-6 parters of the classic series and so on, I prefer the old setup slightly more, although the current set-up still works. Probably the one time where it didn't work as an advantage as such was probably the recent @The Doctor's Wife' story. It really should have been more than just the one episode because literally there was so many concepts and was slightly crammed, nonetheless a great episode.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Yes the doctors wife should have been a 2 parter while the flesh 2 parter should have been 1 because it wasn't so mutch content in it,same with Victory of the Daleks,it should have been cliffhangerd,but I am not saying that the angel 2 parter wasn't bad,not it was very good,but I thiink the silurians 2 parter would have worked better in the old format.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden I rekon the flesh 2 parter would have been better if the 2nd part wasn't all over the place. The script seemed like a first draft sometimes as that some things didn't particulaly make sense (although great cliffhanger for AGMGTW. As for Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, in my view it sometimes had the creep factor of Blink, although not on the scale of Blink.
Favorite Matt Smith story for me probably 'The Doctor's Wife' followed by The Impossible Asteronaut 2 parter. Great storys
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts My 11th doctor stories is his first story and his first season final and TIA/DOTM,ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden That reminds me, the 11th Hour was pretty great. It was as if it was a new beginning. Brilliant episode.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Yes,indeed it was.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts There are many problems with the flesh,
Thier idea are really fresh,
but the acting was streacthed,
most things were just farfetched,
The 2 parter wasn't a banger,
the only good was the cliffhanger,
the idea gives fear,
yet it was as bad as a painted tear.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden Yes, all over the place really. Some of the acting in particular was not great. The plot especially at one point was forced, especially when one of the skeleton crew acts like, I don't want to sound offensive, but she acts like a bitch for no real reason and start a war when the flesh are trying to get along with the real people. Also this two parter is dangerously similar to last year's The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood two parter.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden **When the real people are trying to get along with the flesh, sorry.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Yes,those monets were a bit awkard.And were you ryhming as me?
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden Ryhming in what way?
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Sorry for that,but now lets talk about this,funny serious wierd scene that is happening here.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden Lol, ok then. Its very funny, especially when 7 threatens to wreck the lab. I think the aim to enjoy TATR and the rest of season 24 is not to take it so seriously as some fans do. The serious dark theme came the series after and the next one, especially stories like 'Remembrance of the Daleks' and 'The Curse of Fenric'.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Well when you are talking about dark.What do you think of the moffat era?And sorry for my rhyming,I have watched a walkthrough of Banjo & Kazooie and is now on Banjo & Tooie.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden Ok then haha. I think the Moffat era is darker. I think fans were greatfull for RTD bringing the show back, but they probably thought "Could the show be a bit more darker?" thoughts like that. I think that now the fans have been rewarded in a way. Yes the Tennant/Rose lovers have pretty much moved on now but the true fans of the show have stayed, and in my opinion, this era of Dr Who is hands down better than the RTD era, and one of the best in the show's history in my view.
JoeConcerts 6 months ago
@JoeConcerts Well,what do you think og the diffrent Doctors era's?Also why would The Doctor want to take a vecation?You and all the others are so right about this.This is laugh out laud in its highest moment.
TheMrOkamiden 6 months ago
@TheMrOkamiden well technically the Doctor is always on vacation
227060 2 months ago
@JoeConcerts Well the thing is I don't associate dark=good. its just a different style is all. eg Pertwee's era wasn't as dark as Baker's. Davison's wasn't as dark as pertwee's and for my money i don't think the Moff's era has overall been the darkest the show ever has. they are all good in their own ways. IMO i prefer RTD's era and think that was a very special time to be a fan. however, the Moff's era is just amazing too. its more a style thing than anything
227060 2 months ago
@daleksvscybermen i dont agree about colin baker and sylvester mcoy two best but micheal grade is shit
wino309 11 months ago
@wino309 Yep he is a bastard to the highest degree
daleksvscybermen 11 months ago
@daleksvscybermen Hmm not many people were big on Colin Baker, he made the Doc too pompous for his own good but Sly was good yes, too bad he got laboured with some juvenile scripts in his first series and then barely had time to give some depth in the second before dickwad Grade axed the show
bluejeckett 11 months ago
@bluejeckett Bear in mind that Colin was not allowed a single bit of input to his character. Colin originally suggested that his doctor wear black velvet and didn't want to play it so pompous. But the powers that be made him do it so that they could kill the show and blame it on Colin. The same thing also happened during Sylvester's first season. Two great doctors, really bad writers
daleksvscybermen 11 months ago
@daleksvscybermen I dunno why they didnt just remove the show if they were so hellbent on destroying it. You get all this bitching about John nathan Turner ruined it or Grade ruined it but maybe the writers were running out of ideas and too busy stuck in the old days of Who where childlike entertainment sufficed in an early evening timeslot. By the 80s and especially late 80s this kind of pantomime was positively arcane for prime time televison and i dont think that helped. Television changed
bluejeckett 11 months ago
@bluejeckett Because if they just killed it ther would still be a chance of it coming back but if they dragged it on with awful stories then kill it would have meant that they couldn't bring it back
daleksvscybermen 11 months ago
Christ alive. McCoy was SUCH a shit doctor, thank God they didn't have him in the entire film version.
GregSmeg 1 year ago
@GregSmeg He was one of the best doctors in most fans opinions actually. If your gonna complain about someone, choose the scriptwriters. It was their doings that caused the series to be cancelled. I doubt you would make a better doctor.
TheBambiniGiant 1 year ago 4
@TheBambiniGiant Thats clearly lies, you are lierally the first person i have ever heard say Sylvester McCoy was one of the best doctors.
Admittedly the scripts were bollocks (Kandy Man) but it didn't help that Sylvester McCoy has the acting ability of a cabbage.
The sad truth is, I probably would make a better doctor.
GregSmeg 1 year ago
@GregSmeg Cows Balls! slyvester was a great actor as doctor who. His odd style and zany attitude made him perfect. You have to remember that the doctor isn't human. He portrayed it perfectly. If you think i'm one of the first to say he was one of the best doctors, you really need to update your who-facts, because he has billions of followers as a good doctor in general. You would make a better doctor eh? i doubt that, I only have your word.
TheBambiniGiant 1 year ago 5
@TheBambiniGiant Billions? Billions? Seriously?
dawnofthered 1 year ago
@dawnofthered Not literally billions but the word millions is probably more sensible of me to say. He has more likers than you may think.
TheBambiniGiant 1 year ago
@TheBambiniGiant I agree with you on that, the 7th was one of the greatest, the 9th doctor was the worst by far, but im not saying he was rubbish, he was just the bottom of the best, you know
mastterby 1 year ago
@GregSmeg i agree
CardClashersHub 1 year ago
I dig her big hair! When the doctor fell down the stairs, I couldn't stop laughing. And what the heck was that big zit on her nose in the last few seconds?
chinagrrl 1 year ago
Damn, the Rani was HOT!
buckycore 1 year ago
I don't remember Doctor who being so cheesey....... then again things are not the same when you are a child as they are when you grow older..
Lianas1980 1 year ago
@Lianas1980 I dont know I'll take cheesiness over the feminist point scoring and political correctness thats rampant in the new Dr Who any day
Xollob2 1 year ago
Somehow I get the feeling I'm not supposed to find this utterly hilarious, and yet it's so amusing :D
Mellorax 1 year ago 2
Sylvester McCoy makes a good entrance. I love his overdramatic "And who are you?" scene.
CaptEoNinja83 1 year ago 4
I grew to like Sylvester, but not through these early scenes of his. I mean the man fell over for heavens sake. This was a dark time for writing on Doctor. Though I watched every episode, it was tough with silliness like this.
ruberto53 1 year ago 2
@ruberto53 He WAS still in the early days of his seventh life; the Doctors are ALWAYS a bit unstable immediately after they regenerate
MarcusSLazarus 1 year ago 3
@ruberto53 aye. after dragonfire it picked up not counting happiness patrol and greatest show in the galaxy)
OmegaShenron6574 1 year ago
Rani giving me a first class bumbershoot!
diddymuck 1 year ago
i think they put alot of thought in the the name of that asteroid that was made of strange metter
handsqueasy 1 year ago
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Just based on this clip I'd have to say the NuWho episodes are much better than this in every way.
tron81 1 year ago
@tron81 The early McCoy ones are kind of silly but Remembrance of the Daleks, Silver Nemesis and Curse of Fenric are great. Battlefield's alright too. The Doctor started to get some real darkness even before the new series, watch Remembrance to see what I mean.
moloch5642 1 year ago 22
@moloch5642 Too right, although I like the Happiness Patrol too (The candy man was awesome :))
roden81 7 months ago
Just based on this clip I'd have to say the NuWho episodes are much better than this in every way.
tron81 1 year ago
@tron81 well, this is one of the worst who stories ever, so the majority of NuWho episodes are better than this (but there are a few classic who stories which are better than all NuWho episodes)
tourdeforce17 1 year ago
@tourdeforce17 I watched the Old Who story "Genesis of the Daleks" recently and thought it was good. I'd like to see NuWho have more longer, multipart stories like that.
tron81 1 year ago
@tron81 Genesis is the best Who story ever :P
tourdeforce17 1 year ago
The Picture quality is so good.
Cats1357911 1 year ago
0:18 sounds like he's saying 'Om Nom Nom Nom Mel' xD <3
MadeOfTheEpicWin 1 year ago
Superb video quality on this clip. Though the story, acting, and general production value show exactly why at this time Who was a programme heading down the dead end of Cancellation Row.
echotoneband 1 year ago
Thank goodness he abandoned that umbrella in later generations! NuWho needs to have a sexy Time Lady that will challenge the Doctor. It would be hot. If the Rani was banished from Gallifrey could she have survived the Time War?
Witchydonna 1 year ago
Psst, all the Time Lords lived. Gallifrey was suspended in a time bubble, not destroyed.
fjccommish 1 year ago
The Rani was great... shame she didn't have better episodes.
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago
everyone dresses so 80's, lol!
Where am I? Who am I? WHO ARE YOU!?
Flybane 2 years ago
Hahaha... Nice Music. This is awesome, even if the special effects are antique.
Hehe, for once he ´gets through his regeneration without too much trouble, but the Rani is already ready to mess with his poor little head.
KendrixTermina 2 years ago 2
This scene seems ridiculous out of context, because the first five minutes of "Time & the Rani" are.... ridiculous, actually.
Give the whole story an actual chance when it comes out on DVD later this year. I've never heard a word against T&tR from anyone who's actually seen it.
DubbleM900 2 years ago
I agree, the later stuff like Ghost Light is superb but this is just crap.
PessimistGas 2 years ago
I like McCoy in the likes of Survival and Curse of Fendric but this is just....awful.
duuude4 2 years ago
I'd forgotten just how ropey McCoys first scene was...terrible stage style kiddy acting. Must have been the writing and direction though because he was ok after that, never my favouirte or a great but ok...
cgquincy 2 years ago
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Jesus i forgot just how bad it went in its later years......i hated mccoy.....biggest pile of crap
that ever set foot in the tardis. Cannot act for a jelly baby......The writting was as bad as RTD's attempts too. Thank got Moffat is taking the head chair.....someone who gets what Doctor Who should be about. Hopefully it could be another Hinchcliffe era :o)
thematster 2 years ago
Do you really think Moffat will write and produce anything better than the rubbish RTD came up with?
Because I don't, so expect more of the same crap from Moffat that we saw under RTD.
The Hinchcliffe era will never be bettered, not as long as we have the likes of RTD and Moffat in charge.
They claim to be Doctor Who fans yet seem adamant on ruining the character of the Doctor by making him too human and focusing on the companions too much!
balesy1974 2 years ago
Maybe that is wishfull thinking on my part...but i dont know how you can rraise RTD from the overhyped shite bin and compare him to Moffat.....ive enjoyed all moffats stories and hated practically everything RTD touches with his self gratifying fat paws, anyway...im looking forward to the new series more than i have the last ones.....we shall see
thematster 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the highly irritating and so stuck up his own backside RTD whatsoever, but why you are sticking Moffat up on a pedestal is beyond me?
Moffat is one of the main culprits for adding the "romance" element in NuWho with the likes of Madame de Pompadour and River Song, sorry, but this isn't what I class a Doctor Who.
balesy1974 2 years ago
Don't forget Moffat wrote tripe like Time Crash (with the Master goatee joke that wasn't even funny?) and Curse of the Fatal Death too (a Doctor Who parody for Children in Need years ago) so be very careful what you wish for when it comes to NuWho
Wait and see, but it'll be exactly the same rubbish in 2010 than we've had with RTD since 2005.
In my opinion, the Hinchcliffe era will never be bettered, trust me.
balesy1974 2 years ago
@thematser - It seems we share the same views concerning RTD (which seems to cause people to mark down our remarks) but seem to differ concerning Moffats' takeover.
I really can't see NuWho changing that much, as I can't see the BBC wanting to spoil the shows new found popularity, so they'll keep it dumbed down and simplified for todays' audience...
...just to think you'd have been ridiculed for being a Doctor Who fan back in the1980s.
Expect more of the same NuWho.
balesy1974 2 years ago
Well, I don't blame Moffat. I actually think he's a brilliant writer. I mean, he has to pick up where RTD left off. Pretty much, RTD made the Doctor the last of the time lords. It does make him more human. Earth is his only home left. So yes of course he'd be more human. I didn't like the Tenth Doctor towards the end. He was too emo. However, I thought he was brilliant in his first series. Sorta went downhill from there. Although the first half of the fourth series wasn't bad either.
Konyak0 2 years ago
While there was romance in Moffat's stories, The Girl in the Fireplace seemed a little more fun in a way. When he kissed Madame, realization set in and he just laughed at it. Which I thought went pretty well. As for River Song, that's a brilliant character. She knew more about the Doctor then himself which was a great change for once. I don't mind being a little romance here and there, it's the emo depressing bit that's annoying. Like in the last special. Ugh. That was seriously retarded.
Konyak0 2 years ago
@Konyak0
Why all of a sudden do we need romance in Doctor Who regarding the shows main character?
The series managed perfectly well without it from 1963 to 1989.
What "so-called fans" RTD and Moffat seem to forget is that the Doctor character is an alien from another world, not some bloke from earth who fancies earthlings and relies on them to save the day.
What exactly is so brilliant about the River Song character, please enlighten me because I don't honestly see it?
balesy1974 2 years ago
We don't need Romance. I just said I don't mind it. The Doctor is an old fella, and I'm pretty sure it's been a long time since any romance actually occurred to him. Regardless, I don't really blame it on Moffat. And I actually don't blame it on RTD either. Someone decided the 1996 movie was canon which changed the out look on it really.
Konyak0 2 years ago
@Konyak0 - The 1996 tv movie was a one off, RTD and Moffat DIDN'T have to continue down the same road now, did they?
So really, that's not a good enough excuse in my humble opinion.
As for your River Song answer of "She knew more about the Doctor then himself which was a great change for once"
Is that it? What's so brilliant about that?
The Time War changed him? More RTD drivel...I'm glad I'm not brainwashed by NuWho, perhaps you'd like an Doctor Who origins series too? Zzzzzz
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