yeah, you guys claim to be an anti-Nazi/anti-Fascist organization, yet you act like them more than the people you fight against. Who fought for the totalitarian Soviet Union? You did. Who killed innocnet civilians? You did. Who displays blatant racism to the Jewish race? You do. You support an ideology that has killed millions of people, and killed several more in support. Your attacks on the west would've made "ze Fuhrer" proud.
Any kid in the country can learn how to shoot his father's gun and blow things up with firecrackers. The rebel nature of the RAF prevented them from developing a military mindset that other guerrillas develop when setting up military organizations. This sort of attitude would have shocked more disciplined militants who were more serious and more determined.
Did you see them in the P.L.O. camp? When I did it, I prayed to see four French-made Dassault Mirage III of the Israeli Air Force bombing the camp and killing all that terrorist scum.
@MrFirearse The R.A.F. attacked Israeli citizens. Terrorist attacks in Europe don't happen at war, and the way to stop terrorism is through the police and the courts, but in the Middle East, there is a war, and the method to stop your enemies, regardless of whether they're terrorists or not, is by killing them, unless they surrender themselves.
@MrFirearse But Germany will not because the RAF is a terrorist organization. No matter how much you try to hide it, they kill innocent people. Sure, you can say the people killed aren't "innocent", but frankly, no one except commies like you agree. Israel is justified in killing RAF and PLO members. They are terrorists, and terrorists are unlawful enemy combatants, which the GENEVA CONVENTION says that they should get summary execution.
@MrFirearse They are WAR criminals. Not civilian criminals. And I don't know where you're from, but here in the U.S, if a bunch of crazy guys with guns start attacking cops, the cops shoot. They don't hurl pretty pleases or "stop, or I'll say stop again." Every terrorist casualty is from the terrorists attacking, as terrorists are worth more alive than dead (live people talk. Dead people don't).
@MrFirearse They were bombing and killing innocent people. When you catch them attempting to bomb/already bombed something, and they resist arrest, they can be shot. That's legally justified. If "armed resistance" isn't a violent crime (which would warrent shooting) or an act of war (which would warrent shooting), then do please tell me, what is it? Armed resistance is what happened during the American Revolution, a WAR. It happened against the Nazis (also, a WAR). Therefore, it is WAR.
@MrFirearse There was still armed resistance against the Nazis (the partisans), and that was described as a war. The wars in the Middle East are described as wars even though we haven't fought a true government since Iraq (and even then, the government fell very quickly). The nations of the world have already described the PLO and the RAF as terrorist organizations, and terrorists are enemy combatants in the Geneva Convention (although they're "illegal"). Wars, nevertheless.
and regime? HA! Don't make me laugh. The real regime is the USSR, the country that backed the puppet state of East Germany. And the RAF fought for them. That makes them people fighting against a DEMOCRACY for a TOTALITARIAN government. They aren't fighting against a regime. They are fighting FOR one. After all, the communists and the terrorists in the middle east have killed far more innocent people than the "westerners" or the "zionists".
@MrFirearse What's wrong with Israel and the Jews having a home? After all, it was the Arabs that mobilized first, and after "teh Jooz" kicked their asses to kingdom come, they ran to the media crying cheap tears to win sympathy. It got a few useful idiots but most people saw through that, hence the need to resort to suicide bombings instead (which work were even less effective at gaining sympathy). The regimes the RAF fought against were far better than the ones they fought for.
Unless you like North Korea, it is. And we don't call Iraq a "situation". Believe me, I'm American. We call it the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan. Others may call it a "situation" to be politically correct, but it is still, in reality, a war.
Government regime = nation. We said we fought Germany and Japan in WW2, not "Nazis" and "Imperials". We said we fought Iraq, not Saddam. We said we fought Vietnam, not the Vietcong, etc. Gov't is the nation until the gov't is no longer in power
@MrFirearse True, not all Palestinians are terrorists. The PLO does consist of terrorists, though. Remember, the Israelis were perfectly content with their current land, which left the Palestinians with more than enough land. Instead of, you know, trying to peacefully coexist, they enlisted the help of virtually all the neighboring countries to completely crush Israel, and instead, got beaten in 6 Days. As punishment, Israel takes more land. More wars are fought, and more land is won.
Had the Palestinians welcomed the Jews, it would be fine and dandy, right now. Hell, a peaceful Arab-Israeli coexistence would've made progress in the Middle East go much faster. But nope, they just have to kill "ze Zionists". Why? IDK.
All right, since all the talk was about the RAF, the RAF is still a terrorist organization fighting for totalitarian regimes that killed millions (Although I'm American, my parents came from China, so they have first hand experience of communism).
@MrFirearse We're already peacefully coexisting with them. We don't carry out raids on each other or steal each others lands anymore (though, I can't be sure about corrupt land developers, though). Hell, we don't really hear all too much about them anymore; just simply letting them live in peace, and they let us live in peace as well. Why can't that be accomplished with the Israelis and Palestinians? Why does it have to be Israel being wiped off the map?
@MrFirearse The indians weren't kicked off the lands? Are you blind? I'm not proud to admit it, but we forced many Indians off their lands. Nevertheless, several years later, we made our peace and now we don't bother each other. The Palestinans were forced off the land after they FOUGHT AND LOST several wars with Israel. If Israel was just left alone, West Bank and Gaza wouldn't be seperate or "occupied". Who fired the first shot? The Arabs. Blaming Israel for defending itself is stupid.
@MrFirearse Yes, and it was the UN that gave the land to Israel, and then Israel won the land from the wars that the Arabs started. Not to mention these lands belonged to the Jews before they were taken over by the Muslims.
@MrFirearse The first to shoot was the Arabs. Israel got the land after the UN agreed to give it to them. Israel was willing to just leave the Palestinians alone and just let them have most of the land. The Jews just wanted some land because they've been persecuted for God knows how long and they just suffered one of the worst genocides in history. The Arabs (many of which actually worked with the Nazis in WW2, btw), attacked. The Israelis didn't take anyones land. The land was granted to them.
@gameragodzilla I understand und respect the Jews und I am very sorry for what happened to them. But you say that they didn't take ''anyones land'', but well who was living on the land before them? Think logically. The Jews were suffering, und for ending the suffer, they made another folk suffer. But what is done is done, we cannot reverse history so we should act in consequence. Und stop blaming Arabs for everything, both sides are responsible for what happens. All we can is just hope for peace
@MrFirearse poetic. Still doesn't change the fact that you are mostly full of crap. The lands when Israel was created was owned by Britain (therefore, it was technically British lands). Britain gave the lands to the Jews, and then the Palestinians attacked. Israel won, and then won more land. If the Arabs left the Jews alone, none of this would've happened. The Arabs started it. But yes, here's to hoping for peace. The first step toward peace is to make sure terrorist organizations rot in hell.
@MrFirearse Palestinians, true. Nevertheless, you said it was owned by the Palestinians. It was not. The situation is basically like a landlord (Britain/UN) letting new tenets (the Jews) get some of the rooms. The former tenets (Palestinians) still get rooms, so they could've just shared. Did they? No. They attacked, got beat, and subsequently lost land (which is kinda the consequence for attacking someone and losing).
@gameragodzilla Well, I'm not very very curious about it, und it's getting uninteresting. To understand better the situation, I might suggest, you've got to ask the arguments of an Arab, likely Palestinian, und an Israeli because you've got to consider both sides importance in this (whatever it's called) situation. I quit.
Simply because the RAF used questionable tactics is no reason to condemn communism in general, at least not "little c" communism. Mao, Stalin, etc. were all brutal dictators, and arose to power because 1. change is easier to bring about in a coercive way than a voluntary/libertarian one, and 2. parading the moral prestige of a liberatory ideology such as socialism while simultaneously acting in ways which make you worse than the bourgeoisie is awfully convenient for the power hungry. Marx made a
@wcropp1 few comments in his life which could have been interpreted as supporting a less than democratic means to achieve communism, but he was none the less advocating for a stateless society, following a period of CLASS rule, not PARTY rule. We now know that radical democracy is necessary if the state is to ever be dismantled, and to prevent another "Red Bourgeoisie." Centrally-planned economics is a recipe for disaster, yes, and voluntary collectivism isn't all too likely, at least not in a
@wcropp1 scarcity-based economic era, but this does not preclude the possibility of a post-scarcity democratic (i.e. stateless) communism at some point in the future, or some sort of non-capitalist, market-socialism, hybrid system in our lifetimes. Market economics does indeed have some benefits in a scarcity based economy, however, capitalism can also be rather authoritarian. Therefore, true socialists/Marxists/anarchists, etc. are all really seeking the same thing--radical democratization and
@wcropp1 an expansion of individual/workers rights, which can generally be interpreted to mean a restructuring of the state/economy into a more bottom-up, inclusive, democratic framework which will lead to a greater degree of economic opportunity and genuine representation of the people. In other words, I support the RAF's convictions, but feel their ideology was a bit too authoritarian, and their means a bit too violent, though many activist groups of the 60s shared these traits, and I suppose
@wcropp1 all these lessons had not been learned yet at that point in time. The Black Panthers were, IMO, more revolutionary due to their emphasis on self-defense rather than offensive violence, their practical, service-oriented food/health programs, schooling, etc., but even they got sucked into Maoism, at least in theory. In practice, however, they were not truly authoritarian, but many former Panthers have become increasingly aware of the importance of individual freedom in the years since.
you make no valid points in your whole 10 part response, and still you make a mockery of yourself. not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet. if there were truely communism then it wouldnt be a one country communist state, it would have to be every single country to be considered communist, and all those dictators just used communism as a disguise to take power, they were never communist and neither were there regimes. Plus capitalism has killed more people then so called "communism"
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet." Shithead, it is bcs "communism" as ur dried up brain might conceive it is an utopia and impossible bcs equality must be introduced by a dictatorship, bcs individual rights need to be abolished.
"not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet." Not once. Yeah, right. But tried 1000 times then and turning the countries where it was tried, ALL of them, in rotten shitholes.
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet. " Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaah, this statement only shows how dried up ur messed up brain is. It is like saying there never has been nazism. WW2, Holocaust ... oh, no, has nothing to do with nazism.
@EssaOdi "and all those dictators just used communism as a disguise to take power" Ah, really? Don't you say. In the case of Mao and Stalin, this is probably true even, but doesn t make it better though. Tell stupid dipshits like u that u r for communism and then these idiots lift u into power. Stalin and Mao, however, executed exactly what's in the communist rule book according to Marx, dipshit.
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet" No? Really? Don t u say. Hahahah, how come that all communist shithead communists of today use all the communist icons, symbols of the past and still today refer to Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Che, Castro as "great leaders" and treat them as pop icons?? And then one would expect that communists of today would dissociate themselves from this "evil experiment that then never was communism". Hahahaha, u r a bunch of fucked up liars.
I can't deny that RAF inspire me in some sense, even if I think their methods were kind of idoitic, considering the collateral damage (and considering I don't think it's okay to kill people even if they are greedy facists, which is not to say non-lethal violence is not needed to challeng an opressive system)...
If only people stood up against inequality and for freedom today... now it's just a bunch of uncritical masses not caring for anything else than their own individual problems and goals.
"we throw the bombs into the consciousness of the masses" = we shoot you to show you that you are being opressed. Im glad all this RAF shit is over now.
@GuevaraismforUK Oh yeah, another intelligent youtube remark. Wow! Your criticism of my ability to interprete things might yet be more convincing if you had brought it forth in a more orthographic manner.
@GuevaraismforUK I would have, if there was any argument besides "you are wrong because I am right". If you think that’s an argument, I’m really sorry for you.
@koookeee Mabye it's just you don't have the intellect to interprete something as powerful as this. I was once as a devoted Christian for many years so I have had plenty of experience with interpretation. The quote is not speaking about literaly attacking the mases because that would defy one of the main features of a guerrilla war.
@GuevaraismforUK It is so wonderful that you have so much experience in christian interpretation, but that is what the RAF did. However, if you have so little confidence in my interpretational skills, let my just quote two undisputed experts and time-witnesses on this matter:
@GuevaraismforUK „Die negativen Auswirkungen der RAF-Scheiße sind vielerorts erkennbar, CDU/CSU im besonderen, Regierung im allgemeinen und RAF-Kacke im einzelnen scheinen verheiratet zu sein: um den politischen Klassenkampf zu hemmen!“
@GuevaraismforUK „Der Marxismus lehnt den Terror … individuellen Terror und Terror kleiner Gruppen ohne Massenbasis als revolutionäre Waffe ab … Subjektiv ist anzunehmen, dass sie ihre Aktion für eine politische Aktion halten und gehalten haben. Objektiv ist das nicht der Fall. Wenn politische Aktion willentlich zum Opfer von Unschuldigen führt, dann ist das genau der Punkt, wo politische Aktion, subjektiv politische Aktion, in Verbrechen umschlägt.“ Herbert Marcuse
@koookeee No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
@shanghaikidx if you really knew a damn thing youd know that there has never once been communism on this planet, not one single damn time so blaming that shit on communism invalidates your argument. It is possible to blame those atrocitys on corruption but not on communism for it hasnt existed yet. -VIVA LA REVOLICION! -
@EssaOdi Dipshit, brutal dictatorships r the direct and logic consequence of communism, u ignorant bastard, bcs u need brutal force to irradicate any of form individuality and that s what u have to do if u want to make everybody EQUAL. But news flash, men are NOT equal. Speaking in economic terms, it is even clearer why communism must fail.
I knew someone would say this, which can t be more inaccurate. All these communist shitholes (USSR, China (30 yrs ago), East-Eur) were communist countries from the beginning. Lenin, who is regarded as the communist 'thinker', started terrorizing and killing people in the millions when he took power. In theory and practice you need a brutal dictatorship to shove the idiotic comm. ideology down the throat of people because none is so stupid to accept it freely. And this is exactly what happened.
Communists from the beggining??? You just showed the whole world that you don't even know what is communism, that you don't have brains, but a recorder to repeat meaningless cliches.
You need to firstly study what is communism before saying this excrescency. Actually, as a desinformator of rightist ideas, you are a good communist...
Any revolution brings violence, not the rev. itself, but its reaction. Try to study about the FRENCH revolution, which was NOT communist.
@Swordman85 "you don't even know what is communism, that you don't have brains" Says a brain amputated monkey like u who distortions, ignores and falsifies facts, argument and reality.
"Any revolution brings violence, not the rev. itself, but its " Ofc, shithead. To get rid of "political enemies" would have been somewhat understandable from a greater historic perspective, if u really do it for a "greater good" (=to turn a country into a shithole). Terror, murder was part of comm. system thou
@Swordman85@EssaOdi "and all those dictators just used communism as a disguise to take power" Ah, really? Don't you say. In the case of Mao and Stalin, this is probably true even, but doesn t make it better though. Tell stupid dipshits like u that u r for communism and then these idiots lift u into power. Stalin and Mao, however, executed exactly what's in the communist rule book according to Marx, dipshit.
@Swordman85 "Any revolution brings violence, not the rev. itself, but its reaction. Try to study about the FRENCH revolution, which was NOT communist." Only shows ur extremely unlogic "argumentation". I said all communist regime are totalitarian and bloody per se. I didn t say that only communism brings violence. Are you stupid, u Brazilian monkey?? Well, I always said that education is even worthwile in a flee invested country like Brazil.
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet" No? Really? Don t u say. Hahahah, how come that all communist shithead communists of today use all the communist icons, symbols of the past and still today refer to Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Che, Castro as "great leaders" and treat them as pop icons?? And then one would expect that communists of today would dissociate themselves from this "evil experiment that then never was communism". Hahahaha, u r a bunch of fucked up liars.
@Swordman85 This "communism never existed or wasn't done right"-bullshit is as evil and false as it would be to say Nazism didn't exist or wasn't done right.
Just for a big laugh, what does a mentally challenged person like u can support that communist nightmares have nothing to with communism, why it went wrong and what needs to be done to implement this "good" communist ideas right into practice.
Why communism always ended (or already started) as a brutal dictatorship? That's obvious. Men are NOT equal. They are equal in terms of rights, yes. But not in terms of capabilities, motivation, efforts, talents, skills, character etc. You need a brutal dictator in order to hammer the doctrine of uniformism over individuality. If you want everybody to be equal you need to abolish individual rights. You need to control individuums by power. That's what happened everywhere COMMUNISM existed
If u want to make everybody equal, u need a dictatorship. U need to cut the interest & rights of invididuals & take away their property. U need to abolish freedom and free speech of individuals. That's why all communist were dictators. Needed to be! And all these communists shithole WERE communist countries. We saw how well this systems worked politically and economically. I don't even know where they failed more spectacularly in the political or economical field.
talking in economic terms, it is also clear that communist economies must fail. This is clear in theory and spectacularly much more in practice. First top down planning by bureaucrats only can be highly inaccurate and unrealistic (see Mao's GLF), so extremely bad economic decisions are made. Second and more importantly, any private initiative and entrepreneurship is abolished which drives an economy. After all nobody cares about nothing. Why put efforts sthing if you don't get rewarded for it.
I don't have to theorize. In practice, the picture crystal clear. Western economies leap frogged in terms of productivity, wealth being creating (with a participation of the vast majority), innovation, technology ... you name it, while the vast majority in communist countries lived in utter poverty, but I am sure I don't have to get into detail here. You know it. Capitalism, which is a free market system that allows private property and freedom, brought economic and political freedom.
@EssaOdi Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
@GuevaraismforUK Da die meisten sich ja nicht um die Geschichte, wie sie passiert ist, interessieren, oder sonst wie sich in dem Thema belesen möchten, hier wenige wichtige Dokumentarfilme über das, wofür die RAF stand und wofür sich Terroristen wie Klar eingesetzt haben (Diese Filme sind Dokumentarfilme und beruhen auf Fakten, die historisch belegbar sind):
@GuevaraismforUK Eine weitere Bildungsempfehlung für dich, du Spinner. Eigentlich politisches Basiswissen, das man jedoch bei ideologisch vebohrten, wahrheits- und wirklichkeitsverdrehenden Spinner wie dir ja nicht voraussetzen kann. Aber Vorsicht. Man könnte sich mehrmals dabei erbrechen. Ich finde es nur wichtig, dass auch Spinner wie du wissen sollten, wofür die RAF einstehen.
im surprised i didnt see any jumping through rings of fire or diving into a shark pond or playing the game where you hit the ground hog on the head and it goes back in the hole. stupid'o 0.o
Although the RAF insignia had an MP5 on it, I read the RAF never actually possessed a single mp5, their only automatic weapons being given to them from the east, like the pm63 etc.
Secondly the insignia originally had a Kalashnikov but it was changed to an Mp5 to show that they could possess thesame weapons as a fascist state that would use violence. In turn, the RAF would use violence. 'Violence only creates further violence'
well from what i heard in the media, it seemed that as the PLO had support in lebanon, they were able to use the population as willing human shields, and Israel couldn't do much, because it wanted to avoid yet another war crimes accusation, so that's why they "gave a kicking"
@bandidomaffioso RAF should be remembered for what they were: stupid, dumb, cowardous criminals or - if you think of them positively - people who thought they were looking for something good, but in reality were shizophrenic and mentally mis-guided psychopath.
hae? wieso denkst du, dass mir kein gesellschaftliches system helfen kann? ist doch quatsch, das system in dem ich lebe (sprich kapitalismus) kann mir dabei helfen. mir gehts hervorragend!
@melancolicoanonimo11 Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
@melancolicoanonimo11 I don t know what was the worst of the crimes of RAF: the crimes/murders committed by the RAF. The false, mis-informed, ideological stupid lies they spread or the way they dressed and looked, especially the women inside the RAF: Yuck!!!
Camel nixgutt für companeros. Havanna schmackhaftes viel mehr Genuß. Palestinos nur auf Nuß weil rauchen ausschließlich Mist von langes Ohr vermischt mit Asch.
Vom standpunkt der gesamtgesellschaftlichen gammelpolitik ist die ausbeutung von kamelfickern stärkstens zu kritisieren, vom standpunkt der kamele zieht die karawane weiter, der deutschländer hat durst.
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Hey, Denunziantendrecksack,
die Volksgenossen haben jetzt andere Sorgen als Saulaner, die zu Paulanern werden. Die Lehmann-Pleite hat sie arg gebeutelt. Und da sie nicht über die subversiven Finanzquellen der RAF verfügen, gehen sie wohl noch vor Opel pleite.
Hey, "Denunziantendrecksack", ist ja fast Filatelisten, euhhh.. Phäkalistenlingo ärgerst du dich hier? Ist das schreiend vorgetragen? Würde ja gar nicht die FEINE krautische Art darstellen ..!
Saulus? Paulus? Wo sind wir denn hier? In der Sonntagsschule, du alte Jungfer ??
Wenn : Quo vadis Domine
Dann : SYRIEN
denk mal drüber nach, du alter DrHurhausen would-be Polemiker !
Bei manch Aufnahme liegt die Vermutung näher, dass Dromedare und Palästinensos gleiche Vorfahren haben. Affen haben mindestens ein Pfund Hirn, bei Kamelen und Palästinensos ist man da eher unsicher...
ich denke mal, dass es "doof" ist, hochqualifizerte, interlektuelle und vor allem todes-mutige menschen,als "doof" zu bezeichnen, während man selber nich gerade den mentalen status eines 10 jährigen überschritten hat.
Ja so ungefähr ! vieleicht auch nachahmen ! Das ist reaktiontrainign wo die am Anfang rumhüpfen sieht zwar affig ist aer sehr wichtig, gibt es in allen spezialeinheiten der Welt...und das Training war nicht unützlich, außerdem Umgang mit Waffen, auch Mut und selbstvertrauen gesteigert...sowie körperliche Fitness...
so leicht ist es leider nicht. das mit dem alkohol klappt von anfang an nicht und das mit den drogen kann man sich nicht lange leisten. habs probiert.
die fortentwicklung der menschlichen art als sinn des lebens? das ist entweder ein sein-sollens-fehlschluss oder ein grundlegendes missverstaendnis des prinzips evolution.
aber was ich eigentlich nur sagen wollte: du musst dich entscheiden, ob du die leute ueberzeugen oder beleidigen willst, beides zusammen klappt nicht.
what's the name of this film please?
flanjeee 1 week ago
the IRA support the RAF and the PLO factions
shughes375 3 months ago
go ira ya i know its random blame the link
ThePitviper12 6 months ago
The PLO is a bit to uptight.
3sjh3 7 months ago
Baader Meinhof and the other red factions would have sold West Germany out to the Soviets if they could have.
HistoryBuff75 8 months ago
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Sieg Heil! Ve shall kill ze filthy rich und give all ze money to za dear fuhrer, STALIN! HEIL!
Down vith ze Zionist Jews. Zey are a filthy sub-race that do not deserve to live. Heil!
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gameragodzilla 8 months ago
yeah, you guys claim to be an anti-Nazi/anti-Fascist organization, yet you act like them more than the people you fight against. Who fought for the totalitarian Soviet Union? You did. Who killed innocnet civilians? You did. Who displays blatant racism to the Jewish race? You do. You support an ideology that has killed millions of people, and killed several more in support. Your attacks on the west would've made "ze Fuhrer" proud.
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
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gameragodzilla 8 months ago
Any kid in the country can learn how to shoot his father's gun and blow things up with firecrackers. The rebel nature of the RAF prevented them from developing a military mindset that other guerrillas develop when setting up military organizations. This sort of attitude would have shocked more disciplined militants who were more serious and more determined.
schizoidboy 8 months ago
Did you see them in the P.L.O. camp? When I did it, I prayed to see four French-made Dassault Mirage III of the Israeli Air Force bombing the camp and killing all that terrorist scum.
Sofista69 8 months ago
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse No. Because I'm not talking about terrorizing civilians.
Sofista69 8 months ago
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse During wartime is not illegal to target enemy combatants. And Israel is at war.
Sofista69 8 months ago
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse The R.A.F. attacked Israeli citizens. Terrorist attacks in Europe don't happen at war, and the way to stop terrorism is through the police and the courts, but in the Middle East, there is a war, and the method to stop your enemies, regardless of whether they're terrorists or not, is by killing them, unless they surrender themselves.
Sofista69 8 months ago
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse But Germany will not because the RAF is a terrorist organization. No matter how much you try to hide it, they kill innocent people. Sure, you can say the people killed aren't "innocent", but frankly, no one except commies like you agree. Israel is justified in killing RAF and PLO members. They are terrorists, and terrorists are unlawful enemy combatants, which the GENEVA CONVENTION says that they should get summary execution.
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse They are WAR criminals. Not civilian criminals. And I don't know where you're from, but here in the U.S, if a bunch of crazy guys with guns start attacking cops, the cops shoot. They don't hurl pretty pleases or "stop, or I'll say stop again." Every terrorist casualty is from the terrorists attacking, as terrorists are worth more alive than dead (live people talk. Dead people don't).
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse They were bombing and killing innocent people. When you catch them attempting to bomb/already bombed something, and they resist arrest, they can be shot. That's legally justified. If "armed resistance" isn't a violent crime (which would warrent shooting) or an act of war (which would warrent shooting), then do please tell me, what is it? Armed resistance is what happened during the American Revolution, a WAR. It happened against the Nazis (also, a WAR). Therefore, it is WAR.
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse There was still armed resistance against the Nazis (the partisans), and that was described as a war. The wars in the Middle East are described as wars even though we haven't fought a true government since Iraq (and even then, the government fell very quickly). The nations of the world have already described the PLO and the RAF as terrorist organizations, and terrorists are enemy combatants in the Geneva Convention (although they're "illegal"). Wars, nevertheless.
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
and regime? HA! Don't make me laugh. The real regime is the USSR, the country that backed the puppet state of East Germany. And the RAF fought for them. That makes them people fighting against a DEMOCRACY for a TOTALITARIAN government. They aren't fighting against a regime. They are fighting FOR one. After all, the communists and the terrorists in the middle east have killed far more innocent people than the "westerners" or the "zionists".
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
@gameragodzilla Actually, you americans call what happened in Iraq a ''situation''.
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse What's wrong with Israel and the Jews having a home? After all, it was the Arabs that mobilized first, and after "teh Jooz" kicked their asses to kingdom come, they ran to the media crying cheap tears to win sympathy. It got a few useful idiots but most people saw through that, hence the need to resort to suicide bombings instead (which work were even less effective at gaining sympathy). The regimes the RAF fought against were far better than the ones they fought for.
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
Unless you like North Korea, it is. And we don't call Iraq a "situation". Believe me, I'm American. We call it the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan. Others may call it a "situation" to be politically correct, but it is still, in reality, a war.
Government regime = nation. We said we fought Germany and Japan in WW2, not "Nazis" and "Imperials". We said we fought Iraq, not Saddam. We said we fought Vietnam, not the Vietcong, etc. Gov't is the nation until the gov't is no longer in power
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse True, not all Palestinians are terrorists. The PLO does consist of terrorists, though. Remember, the Israelis were perfectly content with their current land, which left the Palestinians with more than enough land. Instead of, you know, trying to peacefully coexist, they enlisted the help of virtually all the neighboring countries to completely crush Israel, and instead, got beaten in 6 Days. As punishment, Israel takes more land. More wars are fought, and more land is won.
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
Had the Palestinians welcomed the Jews, it would be fine and dandy, right now. Hell, a peaceful Arab-Israeli coexistence would've made progress in the Middle East go much faster. But nope, they just have to kill "ze Zionists". Why? IDK.
All right, since all the talk was about the RAF, the RAF is still a terrorist organization fighting for totalitarian regimes that killed millions (Although I'm American, my parents came from China, so they have first hand experience of communism).
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse We're already peacefully coexisting with them. We don't carry out raids on each other or steal each others lands anymore (though, I can't be sure about corrupt land developers, though). Hell, we don't really hear all too much about them anymore; just simply letting them live in peace, and they let us live in peace as well. Why can't that be accomplished with the Israelis and Palestinians? Why does it have to be Israel being wiped off the map?
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse The indians weren't kicked off the lands? Are you blind? I'm not proud to admit it, but we forced many Indians off their lands. Nevertheless, several years later, we made our peace and now we don't bother each other. The Palestinans were forced off the land after they FOUGHT AND LOST several wars with Israel. If Israel was just left alone, West Bank and Gaza wouldn't be seperate or "occupied". Who fired the first shot? The Arabs. Blaming Israel for defending itself is stupid.
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse Yes, and it was the UN that gave the land to Israel, and then Israel won the land from the wars that the Arabs started. Not to mention these lands belonged to the Jews before they were taken over by the Muslims.
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse The first to shoot was the Arabs. Israel got the land after the UN agreed to give it to them. Israel was willing to just leave the Palestinians alone and just let them have most of the land. The Jews just wanted some land because they've been persecuted for God knows how long and they just suffered one of the worst genocides in history. The Arabs (many of which actually worked with the Nazis in WW2, btw), attacked. The Israelis didn't take anyones land. The land was granted to them.
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
@gameragodzilla I understand und respect the Jews und I am very sorry for what happened to them. But you say that they didn't take ''anyones land'', but well who was living on the land before them? Think logically. The Jews were suffering, und for ending the suffer, they made another folk suffer. But what is done is done, we cannot reverse history so we should act in consequence. Und stop blaming Arabs for everything, both sides are responsible for what happens. All we can is just hope for peace
MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse poetic. Still doesn't change the fact that you are mostly full of crap. The lands when Israel was created was owned by Britain (therefore, it was technically British lands). Britain gave the lands to the Jews, and then the Palestinians attacked. Israel won, and then won more land. If the Arabs left the Jews alone, none of this would've happened. The Arabs started it. But yes, here's to hoping for peace. The first step toward peace is to make sure terrorist organizations rot in hell.
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse Palestinians, true. Nevertheless, you said it was owned by the Palestinians. It was not. The situation is basically like a landlord (Britain/UN) letting new tenets (the Jews) get some of the rooms. The former tenets (Palestinians) still get rooms, so they could've just shared. Did they? No. They attacked, got beat, and subsequently lost land (which is kinda the consequence for attacking someone and losing).
gameragodzilla 8 months ago
@gameragodzilla Well, I'm not very very curious about it, und it's getting uninteresting. To understand better the situation, I might suggest, you've got to ask the arguments of an Arab, likely Palestinian, und an Israeli because you've got to consider both sides importance in this (whatever it's called) situation. I quit.
MrFirearse 8 months ago
@MrFirearse I have considered all the arguments. Your arguements are the Palestinian arguments. I countered everything.
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@gameragodzilla My arguments are from a third perspective.
How ignorant, pathetic...
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MrFirearse 8 months ago
@Sofista69 You're wrong. In 1970 Israel was at war in the Middle East.
Sofista69 8 months ago
Horst mahler dieser wichser....was macht der in dem video???
FASCHO ARSCH!
Oblfreak 9 months ago
Simply because the RAF used questionable tactics is no reason to condemn communism in general, at least not "little c" communism. Mao, Stalin, etc. were all brutal dictators, and arose to power because 1. change is easier to bring about in a coercive way than a voluntary/libertarian one, and 2. parading the moral prestige of a liberatory ideology such as socialism while simultaneously acting in ways which make you worse than the bourgeoisie is awfully convenient for the power hungry. Marx made a
wcropp1 10 months ago
@wcropp1 few comments in his life which could have been interpreted as supporting a less than democratic means to achieve communism, but he was none the less advocating for a stateless society, following a period of CLASS rule, not PARTY rule. We now know that radical democracy is necessary if the state is to ever be dismantled, and to prevent another "Red Bourgeoisie." Centrally-planned economics is a recipe for disaster, yes, and voluntary collectivism isn't all too likely, at least not in a
wcropp1 10 months ago
@wcropp1 scarcity-based economic era, but this does not preclude the possibility of a post-scarcity democratic (i.e. stateless) communism at some point in the future, or some sort of non-capitalist, market-socialism, hybrid system in our lifetimes. Market economics does indeed have some benefits in a scarcity based economy, however, capitalism can also be rather authoritarian. Therefore, true socialists/Marxists/anarchists, etc. are all really seeking the same thing--radical democratization and
wcropp1 10 months ago
@wcropp1 an expansion of individual/workers rights, which can generally be interpreted to mean a restructuring of the state/economy into a more bottom-up, inclusive, democratic framework which will lead to a greater degree of economic opportunity and genuine representation of the people. In other words, I support the RAF's convictions, but feel their ideology was a bit too authoritarian, and their means a bit too violent, though many activist groups of the 60s shared these traits, and I suppose
wcropp1 10 months ago
@wcropp1 all these lessons had not been learned yet at that point in time. The Black Panthers were, IMO, more revolutionary due to their emphasis on self-defense rather than offensive violence, their practical, service-oriented food/health programs, schooling, etc., but even they got sucked into Maoism, at least in theory. In practice, however, they were not truly authoritarian, but many former Panthers have become increasingly aware of the importance of individual freedom in the years since.
wcropp1 10 months ago
this idiot lawyer at the begining is a fascist now, what a shame.
kaptanmagaraadami34 10 months ago
Its better to fight then to lay down and die.
ThePhariseeHunter 1 year ago 3
War das Horst Mahler der Naziarsch der da geredet hat?
Mahler hat sich von der Polizei überreden lassen, gegen die RAF auszusagen und ist Nazi geworden, Antisemit, Holocaustleugner...
lordbrainless1 1 year ago 4
@lordbrainless1 Genau , Horst Mahler der Naziarsch. Vom Anwaltarsch zum Kommunistenarsch zum Terrorarsch zum Naziarsch.
asupersoul 11 months ago
Much obliged, RAF!
tuansetan 1 year ago
you make no valid points in your whole 10 part response, and still you make a mockery of yourself. not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet. if there were truely communism then it wouldnt be a one country communist state, it would have to be every single country to be considered communist, and all those dictators just used communism as a disguise to take power, they were never communist and neither were there regimes. Plus capitalism has killed more people then so called "communism"
EssaOdi 1 year ago
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet." Shithead, it is bcs "communism" as ur dried up brain might conceive it is an utopia and impossible bcs equality must be introduced by a dictatorship, bcs individual rights need to be abolished.
"not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet." Not once. Yeah, right. But tried 1000 times then and turning the countries where it was tried, ALL of them, in rotten shitholes.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi "Plus capitalism has killed more people then so called "communism"" Bullshit. Proove it!
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet. " Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaah, this statement only shows how dried up ur messed up brain is. It is like saying there never has been nazism. WW2, Holocaust ... oh, no, has nothing to do with nazism.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi "and all those dictators just used communism as a disguise to take power" Ah, really? Don't you say. In the case of Mao and Stalin, this is probably true even, but doesn t make it better though. Tell stupid dipshits like u that u r for communism and then these idiots lift u into power. Stalin and Mao, however, executed exactly what's in the communist rule book according to Marx, dipshit.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet" No? Really? Don t u say. Hahahah, how come that all communist shithead communists of today use all the communist icons, symbols of the past and still today refer to Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Che, Castro as "great leaders" and treat them as pop icons?? And then one would expect that communists of today would dissociate themselves from this "evil experiment that then never was communism". Hahahaha, u r a bunch of fucked up liars.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Horst Mahler der Knallkopf hahaha
WolfszeitSturmzeit 1 year ago
From what I know of the PLO, it seems like they spent more time fighting other Arabs and other Palestinians then they did Israelis...
Gramra 1 year ago
I can't deny that RAF inspire me in some sense, even if I think their methods were kind of idoitic, considering the collateral damage (and considering I don't think it's okay to kill people even if they are greedy facists, which is not to say non-lethal violence is not needed to challeng an opressive system)...
If only people stood up against inequality and for freedom today... now it's just a bunch of uncritical masses not caring for anything else than their own individual problems and goals.
dufvasven 1 year ago 2
"we throw the bombs into the consciousness of the masses" = we shoot you to show you that you are being opressed. Im glad all this RAF shit is over now.
koookeee 1 year ago
@koookeee If thats your way of interprating it you obviously have not had much expirence in interprating stuff.
GuevaraismforUK 1 year ago
@GuevaraismforUK Oh yeah, another intelligent youtube remark. Wow! Your criticism of my ability to interprete things might yet be more convincing if you had brought it forth in a more orthographic manner.
koookeee 1 year ago
@koookeee Wow! You counter-criticism would have been convincing had you made a remark about my arguement and not my spelling.
GuevaraismforUK 1 year ago
@GuevaraismforUK I would have, if there was any argument besides "you are wrong because I am right". If you think that’s an argument, I’m really sorry for you.
koookeee 1 year ago
@koookeee Mabye it's just you don't have the intellect to interprete something as powerful as this. I was once as a devoted Christian for many years so I have had plenty of experience with interpretation. The quote is not speaking about literaly attacking the mases because that would defy one of the main features of a guerrilla war.
GuevaraismforUK 1 year ago
@GuevaraismforUK It is so wonderful that you have so much experience in christian interpretation, but that is what the RAF did. However, if you have so little confidence in my interpretational skills, let my just quote two undisputed experts and time-witnesses on this matter:
koookeee 1 year ago
@GuevaraismforUK „Die negativen Auswirkungen der RAF-Scheiße sind vielerorts erkennbar, CDU/CSU im besonderen, Regierung im allgemeinen und RAF-Kacke im einzelnen scheinen verheiratet zu sein: um den politischen Klassenkampf zu hemmen!“
– Rudi Dutschke
koookeee 1 year ago
@GuevaraismforUK „Der Marxismus lehnt den Terror … individuellen Terror und Terror kleiner Gruppen ohne Massenbasis als revolutionäre Waffe ab … Subjektiv ist anzunehmen, dass sie ihre Aktion für eine politische Aktion halten und gehalten haben. Objektiv ist das nicht der Fall. Wenn politische Aktion willentlich zum Opfer von Unschuldigen führt, dann ist das genau der Punkt, wo politische Aktion, subjektiv politische Aktion, in Verbrechen umschlägt.“ Herbert Marcuse
koookeee 1 year ago
@koookeee No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@shanghaikidx if you really knew a damn thing youd know that there has never once been communism on this planet, not one single damn time so blaming that shit on communism invalidates your argument. It is possible to blame those atrocitys on corruption but not on communism for it hasnt existed yet. -VIVA LA REVOLICION! -
EssaOdi 1 year ago
@EssaOdi Dipshit, brutal dictatorships r the direct and logic consequence of communism, u ignorant bastard, bcs u need brutal force to irradicate any of form individuality and that s what u have to do if u want to make everybody EQUAL. But news flash, men are NOT equal. Speaking in economic terms, it is even clearer why communism must fail.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
I knew someone would say this, which can t be more inaccurate. All these communist shitholes (USSR, China (30 yrs ago), East-Eur) were communist countries from the beginning. Lenin, who is regarded as the communist 'thinker', started terrorizing and killing people in the millions when he took power. In theory and practice you need a brutal dictatorship to shove the idiotic comm. ideology down the throat of people because none is so stupid to accept it freely. And this is exactly what happened.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron
Communists from the beggining??? You just showed the whole world that you don't even know what is communism, that you don't have brains, but a recorder to repeat meaningless cliches.
You need to firstly study what is communism before saying this excrescency. Actually, as a desinformator of rightist ideas, you are a good communist...
Any revolution brings violence, not the rev. itself, but its reaction. Try to study about the FRENCH revolution, which was NOT communist.
Swordman85 1 year ago
@Swordman85 "you don't even know what is communism, that you don't have brains" Says a brain amputated monkey like u who distortions, ignores and falsifies facts, argument and reality.
"Any revolution brings violence, not the rev. itself, but its " Ofc, shithead. To get rid of "political enemies" would have been somewhat understandable from a greater historic perspective, if u really do it for a "greater good" (=to turn a country into a shithole). Terror, murder was part of comm. system thou
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@Swordman85 @EssaOdi "and all those dictators just used communism as a disguise to take power" Ah, really? Don't you say. In the case of Mao and Stalin, this is probably true even, but doesn t make it better though. Tell stupid dipshits like u that u r for communism and then these idiots lift u into power. Stalin and Mao, however, executed exactly what's in the communist rule book according to Marx, dipshit.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@Swordman85 "Any revolution brings violence, not the rev. itself, but its reaction. Try to study about the FRENCH revolution, which was NOT communist." Only shows ur extremely unlogic "argumentation". I said all communist regime are totalitarian and bloody per se. I didn t say that only communism brings violence. Are you stupid, u Brazilian monkey?? Well, I always said that education is even worthwile in a flee invested country like Brazil.
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@EssaOdi "not ONCE has there ever been communism on this planet" No? Really? Don t u say. Hahahah, how come that all communist shithead communists of today use all the communist icons, symbols of the past and still today refer to Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Che, Castro as "great leaders" and treat them as pop icons?? And then one would expect that communists of today would dissociate themselves from this "evil experiment that then never was communism". Hahahaha, u r a bunch of fucked up liars.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@Swordman85 This "communism never existed or wasn't done right"-bullshit is as evil and false as it would be to say Nazism didn't exist or wasn't done right.
Just for a big laugh, what does a mentally challenged person like u can support that communist nightmares have nothing to with communism, why it went wrong and what needs to be done to implement this "good" communist ideas right into practice.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Why communism always ended (or already started) as a brutal dictatorship? That's obvious. Men are NOT equal. They are equal in terms of rights, yes. But not in terms of capabilities, motivation, efforts, talents, skills, character etc. You need a brutal dictator in order to hammer the doctrine of uniformism over individuality. If you want everybody to be equal you need to abolish individual rights. You need to control individuums by power. That's what happened everywhere COMMUNISM existed
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi
If u want to make everybody equal, u need a dictatorship. U need to cut the interest & rights of invididuals & take away their property. U need to abolish freedom and free speech of individuals. That's why all communist were dictators. Needed to be! And all these communists shithole WERE communist countries. We saw how well this systems worked politically and economically. I don't even know where they failed more spectacularly in the political or economical field.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
talking in economic terms, it is also clear that communist economies must fail. This is clear in theory and spectacularly much more in practice. First top down planning by bureaucrats only can be highly inaccurate and unrealistic (see Mao's GLF), so extremely bad economic decisions are made. Second and more importantly, any private initiative and entrepreneurship is abolished which drives an economy. After all nobody cares about nothing. Why put efforts sthing if you don't get rewarded for it.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi
I don't have to theorize. In practice, the picture crystal clear. Western economies leap frogged in terms of productivity, wealth being creating (with a participation of the vast majority), innovation, technology ... you name it, while the vast majority in communist countries lived in utter poverty, but I am sure I don't have to get into detail here. You know it. Capitalism, which is a free market system that allows private property and freedom, brought economic and political freedom.
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@EssaOdi Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@EssaOdi U stupid dipshit, get some pubic hair, learn reading, learn thinking, then u can argue with adults.
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@GuevaraismforUK Da die meisten sich ja nicht um die Geschichte, wie sie passiert ist, interessieren, oder sonst wie sich in dem Thema belesen möchten, hier wenige wichtige Dokumentarfilme über das, wofür die RAF stand und wofür sich Terroristen wie Klar eingesetzt haben (Diese Filme sind Dokumentarfilme und beruhen auf Fakten, die historisch belegbar sind):
- watch?v=kUxcOqWMviw
- watch?v=COOQrHk7F3U&feature=related
- watch?v=sDBec4HdWfk&feature=related
- watch?v=2es9HnqFxNA
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@koookeee ... weiter geht s:
- watch?v=z4A1FuPyzvQ&feature=related
- watch?v=r9lbeiqtlvU&feature=related
- watch?v=W83CEjNI-Bk
- watch?v=FJ6E3cShcVU
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
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@GuevaraismforUK Eine weitere Bildungsempfehlung für dich, du Spinner. Eigentlich politisches Basiswissen, das man jedoch bei ideologisch vebohrten, wahrheits- und wirklichkeitsverdrehenden Spinner wie dir ja nicht voraussetzen kann. Aber Vorsicht. Man könnte sich mehrmals dabei erbrechen. Ich finde es nur wichtig, dass auch Spinner wie du wissen sollten, wofür die RAF einstehen.
- watch?v=kd2lXXL9qUw&feature=related
- watch?v=f2YukjGtT5o&feature=related
- watch?v=kd2lXXL9qUw&feature=related
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
what a f***? No,sorry.
MsLifexperience 1 year ago
Who is the woman? Is she Irmgard Moeller?
Nazgul03 2 years ago
No, she's someone else. I don't remember her name, but she was a lawyer just like Horst Mahler.
kianttila 1 year ago
@kianttila
She is Monika Berberich.
1912tina1 1 year ago
im surprised i didnt see any jumping through rings of fire or diving into a shark pond or playing the game where you hit the ground hog on the head and it goes back in the hole. stupid'o 0.o
Fischkid2 2 years ago
Although the RAF insignia had an MP5 on it, I read the RAF never actually possessed a single mp5, their only automatic weapons being given to them from the east, like the pm63 etc.
762full 2 years ago
OK... The MP5 is a West German firearm...
Secondly the insignia originally had a Kalashnikov but it was changed to an Mp5 to show that they could possess thesame weapons as a fascist state that would use violence. In turn, the RAF would use violence. 'Violence only creates further violence'
lizgannon 2 years ago
Yeah OK, but besides the "message" they didn't actually have any MP5's, so that makes them look a bit silly doesn't it?
It's like if I bear a Ferrari T-shirt but don't drive a Ferrari lol
762full 2 years ago
haha. what the hell was that at 0:22??? = fail.
Fischkid2 2 years ago 3
fischkid2: u never played counterstrike? :P
NTA88 2 years ago
well these 'fail' guys gave Isreal a kicking in Lebanon
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
Judo: more specific please (really just want to know when). I know Egypt had a good go with IDF but i dont recall PLO.
also, i'm pretty sure whatever battle was claimed to be won has help them little in the long run...looks like Israel still has the keys...
Fischkid2 2 years ago
well from what i heard in the media, it seemed that as the PLO had support in lebanon, they were able to use the population as willing human shields, and Israel couldn't do much, because it wanted to avoid yet another war crimes accusation, so that's why they "gave a kicking"
tomazco 1 year ago
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mal abgesehen von kinderbällen die genäht sind.., ist unser derzeitiges system total fürn arsch.
apfelknecht 2 years ago
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Haha...
Mahler ist im Knast - und das ist gut so.
Ausserdem wurde ihm die Zulassung als Anwalt entzogen.... haha....
artiranmor 2 years ago
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wish summer camp was like that
biohax 2 years ago
Die Affen hüpfen durch den Wald,
der eine macht den anderen kalt.
bandidomaffioso 2 years ago 12
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@bandidomaffioso RAF should be remembered for what they were: stupid, dumb, cowardous criminals or - if you think of them positively - people who thought they were looking for something good, but in reality were shizophrenic and mentally mis-guided psychopath.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
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Viva lass fahrn FAR (FIRST ARSEFUCKING REVOLVERREVOLUTIONISTS)
Viva lass fahrn GESTAPO
kongomeier007 2 years ago 5
i love the funky music in the beginning
TruMalu4Life 2 years ago
Viva las RAF
Viva los GRAPO
GET FREE
OR DIE TRYING
abum911 2 years ago 10
dein opa isn nazi belästigt dauernd kleine judenbengel
staplesInk 2 years ago
PLO nach Auschwitz
denn sie stinken noch
anothersundownrises 2 years ago
RAF + PLO = fuck isreal
iwasborntobeloser 2 years ago
Ja unter diesen Umständen - gebt mal die Waffen wieder ab
und dann sehen wir zu
das Ihr unbehellicht wieder nach Berlin kommt aber wir wollen dann...!
orguggemada 2 years ago
Was hältst Du von ehrlicher Arbeit?
Geh´doch schaffen, Du faule Sau!
CaptainBluebeard09 2 years ago
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Schon mal nen Palästinaffen gesehen, der was schafft?
Entweder sie betteln oder sie klauen.
Oder bringen andere Leute um.
Die echten Verbündeten für jedes linke Gesindel.
Gut, dass sie auch noch kiffen.
Judenfix 2 years ago
what a joke
Ionisus 2 years ago
YEAH! That gives the term "apehangers" a bloody new sense!
Judenfix 2 years ago
hae? wieso denkst du, dass mir kein gesellschaftliches system helfen kann? ist doch quatsch, das system in dem ich lebe (sprich kapitalismus) kann mir dabei helfen. mir gehts hervorragend!
warstone3of5 2 years ago
Thanks for all, RAF
melancolicoanonimo11 2 years ago 25
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For Years of murder, terror and fear ..... how cynical
wimpous 2 years ago
thats how you stand when you shoot a rifle dumbass!!
bese888 2 years ago 4
@melancolicoanonimo11 Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@melancolicoanonimo11 I don t know what was the worst of the crimes of RAF: the crimes/murders committed by the RAF. The false, mis-informed, ideological stupid lies they spread or the way they dressed and looked, especially the women inside the RAF: Yuck!!!
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@melancolicoanonimo11 yeah thanks for 34 killed persons.
vernonGODLittle3 1 year ago
@vernonGODLittle3 Oh no more but thanks anyway ^^
DaLynxfighta 10 months ago
Der kampf geht weiter!!
Diglytron 11 months ago
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Camelfuckers flying thru the air.
How funny!
captainbloodbear008 2 years ago
Tolle Spinatwachteln!
kongomeier007 2 years ago
Das Gammelfleisch bewegt sich ja noch!
vanGammel 2 years ago
Wies aussieht giptz mehr Affen in Palästina alz in ganz Affrika.
Und mehr Paläste in Affrika alz in Palästina.
Alzo bezzer Ruinanda als Palästina!
kongomeier007 2 years ago
RAF love
saveyoursoul1 2 years ago
Die Schweizer ham´s erfunden?
raf4ever0 2 years ago
Und dem Begriff „Rückschlagventil.
tbone5me 2 years ago
Das gäbe dem Begriff „Rückschlag eine völlig neue Bedeutung.
tbone5me 2 years ago
Wenn die Spakken statt Kamelmist köstlichen Limburger futtern würden, könnten sie noch viel höher springen!
silenthillfritz 2 years ago
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Reinhard Heydrich hat 105ten Geburtstag.
Hat zwar nicht so lange gelebt wie ein gewisser Holländer mit österreichischem Paß.
Aber viel intensiver!
Voorpost08 2 years ago
Camel nixgutt für companeros. Havanna schmackhaftes viel mehr Genuß. Palestinos nur auf Nuß weil rauchen ausschließlich Mist von langes Ohr vermischt mit Asch.
CheGehFahrrad 2 years ago
Vom standpunkt der gesamtgesellschaftlichen gammelpolitik ist die ausbeutung von kamelfickern stärkstens zu kritisieren, vom standpunkt der kamele zieht die karawane weiter, der deutschländer hat durst.
vanGammel 2 years ago
die kamelenficker sollen wieder milliarden kriegen vom westen.
nikolaipol 2 years ago
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Gut, dass sie den Affen mit der Glatze erstmal wieder weggeschlossen haben.
CaptainBluebeard09 2 years ago
Das verrate ich deinen besten Freunden.., ohh.., Kameraden soll es heissen.
BarockGammel 2 years ago 4
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Hey, Denunziantendrecksack,
die Volksgenossen haben jetzt andere Sorgen als Saulaner, die zu Paulanern werden. Die Lehmann-Pleite hat sie arg gebeutelt. Und da sie nicht über die subversiven Finanzquellen der RAF verfügen, gehen sie wohl noch vor Opel pleite.
CaptainBluebeard09 2 years ago
Hey, "Denunziantendrecksack", ist ja fast Filatelisten, euhhh.. Phäkalistenlingo ärgerst du dich hier? Ist das schreiend vorgetragen? Würde ja gar nicht die FEINE krautische Art darstellen ..!
Saulus? Paulus? Wo sind wir denn hier? In der Sonntagsschule, du alte Jungfer ??
Wenn : Quo vadis Domine
Dann : SYRIEN
denk mal drüber nach, du alter DrHurhausen would-be Polemiker !
Dzjinn Dzjinn auf die die Pleite des 4 Reiches
BarockGammel 2 years ago
Bei manch Aufnahme liegt die Vermutung näher, dass Dromedare und Palästinensos gleiche Vorfahren haben. Affen haben mindestens ein Pfund Hirn, bei Kamelen und Palästinensos ist man da eher unsicher...
(PS: Scho mal ´nen Affen mit nem Schal gesehen?)
raf4ever0 2 years ago
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assoziales palästinenser pack,da passt die drecks raf hin,genau so unterbelichtet wie die, diese untermenschen.die stammen echt vom affen ab...
BillKilgore74 2 years ago
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Ja die "Stadtguerilla" trainiert in der Wüste. So doof muss man erstmal sein...
hahnenkampf88 3 years ago
ich denke mal, dass es "doof" ist, hochqualifizerte, interlektuelle und vor allem todes-mutige menschen,als "doof" zu bezeichnen, während man selber nich gerade den mentalen status eines 10 jährigen überschritten hat.
mit anderen worten: du bist doof^^
Haschrebell 3 years ago 2
schnauze halten !!!!!!!!!!
Shahen1999 3 years ago
Und die Bilder genießen (hupf, hupf, hurrraaaa!)
BabbelYou 3 years ago
Ja so ungefähr ! vieleicht auch nachahmen ! Das ist reaktiontrainign wo die am Anfang rumhüpfen sieht zwar affig ist aer sehr wichtig, gibt es in allen spezialeinheiten der Welt...und das Training war nicht unützlich, außerdem Umgang mit Waffen, auch Mut und selbstvertrauen gesteigert...sowie körperliche Fitness...
Shahen1999 3 years ago 2
Welcher von den Spasten bist Du denn? Der dritte von links? Oder der Baller-Baller-Mann im Schneidersitz hinter dem MG?
tbone5me 3 years ago
Nein der wenn du im Urlaub bist dir eine AK-47 vor die Fresse hält ;)
Shahen1999 3 years ago
Schnauze halten !!!!!!!!!
tbone5me 3 years ago
Zum Glück mache ich dort Urlaub, wo Deinesgleichen niemals hinkommen.
tbone5me 3 years ago
Du scheiss Nazi wirst nirgendwo Urlau machen ! außer auf dem Friedhof !
Shahen1999 3 years ago 2
Besser als die Hottentotten!
Eselficker beim Ballett!
BarockBammel 3 years ago
Livereport aus Gaza? Nein, zuwenig Phosphor.
BabbelYou 3 years ago
Darwin hatte mindestens zum Teil recht:
ob die Arier vom Affen abstammen, bleibt ungewiss; dass aber die Palästinenser von den Affen abstammen, ist nunmehr schlüssig nachgewiesen.
tbone5me 3 years ago
Klar isses einfach:
Hautse, hautse, hautse in die Schnauze.
Hautse mit vergnügtem Sinn
Immer in die Fresse rin!
Leibo06 3 years ago
so leicht ist es leider nicht. das mit dem alkohol klappt von anfang an nicht und das mit den drogen kann man sich nicht lange leisten. habs probiert.
die fortentwicklung der menschlichen art als sinn des lebens? das ist entweder ein sein-sollens-fehlschluss oder ein grundlegendes missverstaendnis des prinzips evolution.
aber was ich eigentlich nur sagen wollte: du musst dich entscheiden, ob du die leute ueberzeugen oder beleidigen willst, beides zusammen klappt nicht.
warstone3of5 3 years ago