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  • What is the latest ati and Nvidia? I think nvidia is at 495?

  • GTX295 is better:)

  • Lol, this made me laugh cause even today Nvidia can barely beat ATI. Fanboys act like this was remarkable to beat the 4870X2 with an avg 4-10 FPS, now look at the 5970 which smashed the 295 by nearly 50 percent or more in a lot of games. then the Fermi has low manufacturing yields

  • sorry i will always be an nvidia card user only cause i used nvidia for the longest time and have never liked ati cards in old days of nvidia and ati you couldn't play a game that required a specific amount of video ram but with nvidia you can in most cases play that same game on less video ram although not the best in performace it would still allow you to play the game unless that's changed today which i doubt i will never go with ati.

  • DEVERIA SER ATI 5970X2 VS 295GTX XDD sobrado gana la ati XD

  • ATI just does well because they put a lot of their GPU's in Consoles. Like the Wii. it says ATI right on the side of the thing.

  • @Nomad2243 yeah that's why wii's graphics sux :P:P:P lol :P

  • Oh and...

    Intel + ATI = win.

    Intel is better then AMD.

  • lolx,nomad 2243,i think u r a nvidia fan,actually,y u keep using gtx295 high end nvidia card compare wif ati mid end card??4870x2 shud compare wif gtx280,not gtx295,and u shud take 5970 vs gtx295,even 5970 is expensive than gtx295,because it does support dx11 and faster than 295,and it single card!!!Ati better than Nvidia is truth now!!

  • Why would I compare a dual Radeon GPU to a Single GTX 280.

    GTX 280 vs Radeon 4870 = Nvidia win

    GTX 295 vs Radeon 4870 x2 = Nividia win

    the GTX 200 line was Nividias answer to the radeon 4000 line

    the Nvidia GTX 300 line will be there awnser to Radeons 5000 line. I have no clue wich will be better.

    we have nothing to compare the Radeon 5000 line to. of course a brand new GPU will be better then a Year old GTX 200 line card. I would find it shocking if the Radeon GPU wasn't better.

  • yeah but the 2 4870s equal the same price as a single nvidia 295 so we are going by price too so take your nvidia bs somewhere else

  • dude a GTX 295 out performes 2 4870's. I am not going to say anymore than that. you can figure out why you just supported Nvidia through your own comment.... xD

  • lol o.k im comparing for price man u can get a 5970 for the same price as an 5970 and the 5970 rapes that card c'mon smarten up

  • i mean gtx 295 lol not 3 5970s

  • if im wrong watevs ati still sells the most which makes them better

  • 5970 get 24% better performance then the GTX 295 on Average.

    5970 is also around $200 dollars more expensive then the GTX 295.

    also there are more computers with Nvidia Processors in them because Nvidia Drivers are better and Nvidia GPU's are optimized for a wider variety of games.

    take Crysis For instance. in the opening Sequence of the game is says "Nvidia meant to be played"

  • NO you should not compare the GTX 295 and ATI 5970, you should compare the GTX 200 Series to the 4000 series, fair play there

  • lolx,the guy in this video say nvidia well done,i think he is sick,295 gtx is nvidia flagship,but 4870 just only middle end card,let take 5870 compared to 295 gtx,i think it kik gtx 295 ass to the sky,lastly,nvidia price=expensive,ati=reasonable

    Nvidia technology has been lose to ati even 300 series released,since ati will be release new card too

  • GTX 295 on average with the new drivers it got is 36% faster then the 4870 x2.

    Depends on the game also.

    Radeon 5870 is about 20-15% less powerful then the GTX 295 but that is because it is a single GPU and the GTX 295 is a dual. also depends.

    the Radeon 5970 is 24% more powerful then the GTX 295.

    so I mean there is only one card out on the planet that beats the GTX 295 wich is the Radeon 5970.

    and its around $200 dollars more expensive then the GTX 295.

    so you get what you pay for.

  • Your right nomad2243 the new 5970 x 2 on one board i watched that card run it's is sick fast..

    I do love the GTX295 card runs really well... but the 4870x2 is a bit passey...

    Now personally i'm saving for a Sapphire 5970 2gigs DDR5 as my next card.

  • AMD + Nvidia =WIN

  • no its Intel+ATi= win

  • @bekhouwe8888 Quite right, i cant wait for the arrival of my HD 5850 the im gonna OC to similar speed as the 5870. =) Btw I current ly have a Q6600 @3.6 On air

  • Ahh nice one. Im going to build a nice game system for my friend based on a i7+5850 for like 1200 euro's. Here the specs:

    CPU: i7860

    CPUCOOLER: Corsair H50

    MOBO: Gigabyte p55-ud4

    GPU: HD5850

    Ram: OCZ Reaper 4 gig 1800mhz ddr3

    Case: antec 900

    HDD: 2x Samsung F3 in raid0

    PSU: Corsair HX850

    and some fancontrollers+other fancy stuff

  • Amd + ATI = Win. :D

  • hey. i have a quad core 2.6 with 4 gigs of ram and a nvidia 260 maybe getting a 295 what can i do to better my fsx. i really bought this computer for the fsx but i cannot run it at full power. im pretty stupid when it comes to video card setups and setting up for games and what not. if you have some tips i would appreciate it.

  • In this next generation of graphics hardwares...Everything will be in the codes and the management of the multiple cores graphic processor... The raw power of the graphics card will gonna be less important... Everything is in the programmation more than ever.... That's why they try to build some kind of self-programmable program wich make is own codes lines... DirectX 11 is a giant step...

  • Is GTX295 support directX 11?

  • unfortunately no :(

  • NO! not even 10.1

  • No!

    We need to wait for the 300 series.

  • here is what i think of ati/nvidia. i think that if your going to go high end cards. go nvidia. but midrange. go ati ati cards are better priced cheaper. and offer everything the nvidia counterpart offers par to par.

  • nVidia FOREVER! :D... WoW much much ppls think Ati can smash nVidia but that is NOT true...

    @tyuo9980 Yep! Ur right ati's (HD4870) prices are whit $100+ more than nVidia's are for $200 or less here, in Bulgaria i talk in $ not in leva.. nvm...

    NVIDIA PEOPLS

  • @blablabg1 i think for sure you are crying now about nvidia.

  • @blablabg1 Yeah about that ... ati max here is 800$ but nvidia 1200$.

  • indeed it is , but the 295 is a lot newer , the ati still beats nvidias arse at their other cards for the same price :)

  • thats true! gtx295 is newer card compared to 4870x2! maybe crossfire hd4890 will be a good competitor....But now with hd5870 YOU ALL nvidia Fans can SUCK my dick!!! HAHAA bua hahahaha

  • 5870x2 FTW

  • Intel sucks!

    Too expensive....

    I've got phenom II x4 940 at 3.7Ghz and it beats q9650.....and close to q9770 maybe...so all you haters here GIVE ME YOUR THUMBS DOWN!!!! MUHHAHAHAHA BUAAAA

  • @Vertig0HTM ah, I love how ati fans prove how idiotic they are by themselves.

  • ofc 295 its bether gpc but 4870x2 is fking cheaper than 295 so ofc i will buy the 4870x2 -.-'

  • just wait for the ati 4890x2

  • screw that, waiting already for 5890x2 XD...

  • i think those hasnt been started in progress yet.. but take the 5870x2 thats coming out in october 22 because i think its for 400-500 dollars

  • i got my 4870x2 with 2gb GDDR5 for $350 (1 month used)....

    295's are like 749. . .

    pwnd

  • I got my 295 for $400. Brand new.

  • your from the US. derrr.

    350 AUD = $290 US

  • Okay that's no fair. How was I suppose to know you were from the land down under.

  • haha thats true. my bad.

  • 295s are $500-600. at thats retail price. urs was used. the retail price for the 4870x2 is $499. up to $100 difference but the 295 has better fps

  • Also i run most games i want at 110 FPS, extra FPS wont make a difference for me but i do agree the 295 is the best single card.

  • Errr..

    You do know there is a massive release time gap between the two cards >.>

    In technology's timeframe.

    The GTX 295 IS WAY MORE RECENT and costs like about 2 times more. Of course it's going to win.

    So I have no idea why Nvidia fanboys are taking this as a massive victory when it took them this certain amount of time to develop a card that finally tops the former king. And then there ATI fanboys trying make a defence, when they should save it until the 4890x2 comes out for an even fight.

  • And as a side-note.

    If these 2 cards are almost neck and neck. Then I really don't feel like spending another $150 just to get a few extra frames with a GTX 295. And with a loss Directx 10.1

  • GTX295 are fuckin better

  • This makes me wonder, what would happen if EVGA ditched Nvidia and joined AMD/ATI.

  • What if Sapphire ditches Ati O.o

  • yeah geforce pwns the ati's pussy

  • YEA Nvida FTW

  • hd 4870x2 has 1600 steam processors

  • But it's only 512 bit while the gtx 295 is 896 bit

  • yes but hd4870x2 have more core speed than 295gtx and the memory clock is more in 295 gtx

  • my 8600 gt worked with 16x bandwidth and now with only 1x =( does any1 know how i can get it back to 16x?

  • your common sense has finally added light to a dumb fuck subject

  • Will you fucking fanboys get a life?

  • are you fucking braindead? almost no one bought the fucking 4870x2. It had overheating, power consumption, and just general issues that rendered nearly 50% of the cards in the first 2 months useless.

  • that wouldn't stop [people buying it.i suppose you can back up your claim with statistics. REAL! statistics

  • did u have AA? everyone no's ati's cards work better against nvidia's wif AA

  • ALL I HAVE TO SAY

    ATI IN THE TOP

  • yea thats right! ATi is better and cheaper too!!

  • hey stan could u tell me where u got that backround image?

  • I got it at nvidias web site.

    Stanbony

  • Hey stan, nice cards and i love ur vids!

    I dont want to sound condesending but did your comparisons include running the cards in 'AA'?

  • you could cross fire 4890s and get better preformance for cheeper

  • Stop watching when he said that the 295 takes a lead in the FC2 benchmarks, it's only about 1-2FPS and within the margin of error.

  • lol, strong believing Nvidia's marketing.

  • ofcourse Nvidia will win

  • dude, what the fuck, tri sli gtx 285 beats the 4890 x2, it also beats gtx 295 quad sli

  • 3 gtx285's are $1,034.97 bucks, 2 4890's are $430 even 3 4890 is $644.97 400 dollars cheaper have fun spending a shit load on a tiny bit better fps

  • Excatly, and ATi is bringing out da 4890x2 and DX11 cards so that will be cheaper and faster

  • OMG! 5 FRAMES! WOW!

  • hey man 5 fps is alot better than 0 fps

    i wish i could get 5 fps on any game lol

  • when does that come out???

  • you sound like vin diesel

  • DUDE Gamer rig gallore!. can ya give me some of that pc goodness.

  • N V I D I A

  • NVIDIA IS BEST!!!!!!!

  • Shit dat cant do full screen

  • you are very good

  • hay stanbony you remind me of a wrestler, do u do martial arts, you don't come across to me as a computer enthusiast.

  • lol, Ive kicked an ass or two before, I do this because it's interesting,, And that there are people out there that try to act like they know it all about this shit, I'm hear to show anybody can do this shit, all it takes is money and some research its not rocket science. But most of all, I love gaming and building fast rigs, I guess that makes me an enthusiast.

    Stanbony

  • yea im kinda like that too

  • thanx bro,

    what hardware do you personally use and for how much

    and would it be cheaper to buy a gaming PC or build 1 myself

  • I recommend buying a pre built pc unless you really know what your doing! You dont save much by doing it your self unless your adding mods to your rig, Check out Cyberpower, there real cheap and real good

    Stanbony

  • hi stanbony

    i'm not that much into PC stuff but i have one q tho :

    can i use the Nvidia 295GTX and the ATI 4870x2 at the same time on the same motherboard?

  • No you can't, they must be same manufacter, or use SLI or Crossfire together. Nvidias uses SLI and ATIs Crossfire.

  • ty for the info

  • stanboy is that a lian li gaming pc case ??

  • Yes! But rebadged by ABS as the Canyon 695!

    Stabbony

  • Great job mate. Not many people can be that objective.

    I been watching your vids for a while now, Sp8rk3y keeps tellin me to leave a comment lol.

    Anyway, great rig, love the WC. I got a QX9650 @ 4Ghz watercooled and dual 280's. Very nice.

    Go for an EVGA classified, tri 285's, a 9600GT for physx and AI, and an i7 975 xD. For next build ofc.

  • Hey thanx dude for the comment and suggestions, I am gonna do exactly that and if the 975 isnt out yet, I will use the 920 till then.

    Stanbony

  • again ati = bank for buck

    Nvidia = powerhouse if you can afford it

    and yes at 2600 x 1600+ pixels Ati does win. but crysis is completely unplayable on both

  • Nice watch man, you have one hell of a rig too! 5/5

  • good video Review!! god job!!

  • Thanx bro! Just trying to be biased!

    Stanbony

  • ATI 4870x2 beats 295 gtx on 2600 x 1600 on all levels .....

  • good job bro. I personally have one of these boards and I am extremely happy with it. I cant wait to pick up another one!!!

  • argh! now im confused between the ati HD4870x2 or the Nvidia gtx 295...whats the next cards getting out?when? I think ill go for Nvidia( i have a Xfx 8800 Ultra extreme and no complaints)

  • go nvidia i personally own the 280gtx and its fastt like hell . its faster when u have full settings for some reason:S GO NVIDIA!!!!!!!

  • go nvidia

    i got a gtx 260 55nm and my brother has a

    hd4870 1 gb and the fps are like 7-10 of diference in crysis

    182 vs 9.2

    and on far cry 2 its like 15 fps of diference

    go nvidia dood

  • nice video.

    You should test these two Video cards using Roller Coaster Tycoon 3,

    Play the Game in Sand Box mode, Fill the hole Park up with Rides, Trees, Food Stands, and wait untill you get over 3000 guest in the Park, keep the Park on daytime only, give the Park a name, Save the game.

    then use this Park to Compare the Frame Rates between these two Video cards and see who the Winner will be, Nvidia 295GTX or ATI 4870x2 : )

  • Why would you use RCT3, that game is bugged as hell and the scripting is even worse...

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  • the only problem with the game is when

    it runs at night with the Park lights on

    then it does get really slow, to slow to not

    want to play, so your rihgt about the game

    itself having problems.

  • Nice system dude! Come join us at the slaughter house! Left4Dead server on steam!

    Stanbony

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  • sounds like he is straight out of wcw brother, good reviews

  • lol love this guys voice

  • gonna smoke the x2 LOL like 4 fps .....

  • talk less

  • Hey, Stanbony, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like you got that benchmarking info off a website; reckon you could point me at the URL so I can check it out myself?

  • Guru3d

  • Thx man

  • the 4870x2 wins on warhead because it has more memory then the gtx295, the 295 has 1792MB of mem and the 4870x2 has 2048MB of mem.

    It just makes that small difference as with such heavy games a GPU just loses when it runs out of mem.

  • can you have 2 x gtx 295

  • u can, its quad sli but its not really useful for a normal user, more for enthusiasts and pure bragging rights.

    quad sli doesnt scale so well.

  • EA sucks[2]

    true.... the games made by EA are rubbish... most of them... i like ubisoft...and valve....but its me

  • i agree dude.....+ i like konami and capcom too....

  • nice competiton between ati and nvidia, im sure ati will answer the call for this card..

  • but look

    ati 4870x2 released a while i guess its like 3-4 months earlier

    man technology goes too fast these days that 3-4months of make huge differences

    gtx295 of course gonna be faster , nvidia release this card just to beat 4870x2

    i like boths cards but i will for the 4870x2 because i have limited budget. =D

  • nvidia rules again and its not more expensive then the 4870x2

  • yes but 4870 x2,they gonna put those drivers out now that 2 gpu s talk to ich other :)

  • These new cards are probably gonna encourage EA to make the next Crysis even more insane... and the saga shall begin all over again.

  • EA did not make crysis.. Crytek made crysis, EA just published it. EA SUCKS!! lol

  • Oh lol. I thought Crytek was a division of EA. The only EA games I've really played are the Need For Speed games, and the sports games, so I can't really say if they suck or not lol.

  • The 1st need for speed games were really good. But the latest ones really suck, they just seem to re release all games lol.. Like the fifa games, every year they re release the same game with some minor changes.. Thats why i hate EA lol

  • Oh lol, so that's why you hate them. Lol, well I hate NFS Pro Street, but I like all the earlier NFS games. And I hate all their sports games, except the first Fifa Street. Lol, I'm still neutral about EA as a whole though.

  • exactly dude....i like nfs 2 and fifa street....... EA is a very big company..but they only make same kind of games again and again....they should make some games like ubi, konami or capcom...

  • Lol, yeah, you're right.

  • I hate EA with a passion !

  • btw, gtx 295 users already claim to have stuttering issues...LOL epic

  • You know.. no offense.. but a Jersey boy .. or NYYankee fanboy or whatever you are with your 1980's clothes and shit.. just doesn't seem to fit the mold of a gaming geek/nerd who knows hardware and software.. Did you lose your construction job or something?

  • but then again the gtx 295 is better on the benchmark.

  • id rather buy a 4870x2 which is a lot better in price and specs.

  • ATI IS FUCKING BULLSHIT NVIDIA IS THE NEW STUFF SO WHO EVER HAS ATI CAN GO FUCK THAT CARD OUT OF UR MOTHER BOARD AND GO FUCKING BUY THAT FUCKING NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 OR GO FUCKING FUCK YOUR MOTHER FUCKING MOM

  • shut up stupid fanboy

    i like both companies

  • Um... where i bought my 4870X2 it cost me 592us dollars , on the other hand the 295 costs 717us dollars in the same place :S

  • i like waching your vidoes u know what u are talking about i cant what to see who wins

  • This is not true Leetard179. The Nvidia didnt release this monster because they had to sell 280GTX. Now as you can see the Nvidia 295 totaly destroyes 4870x2. Now that Nvidia is the leader again all gamers and Nvidia fans are going to throw away their 280GTX, 4870x2, 9800GX2..., and they will buy 295gtx. Now that Nvidia is back in the 1st place ATI is totaly destroyed. Did you see those frame rates? Nvidia IS the best! Not ATI. ATI sucks!

  • im getting it. But im getting it for GTAiv, then i saw some benchmarks and 4870x2 was 1-2 fps better for some reason..

    its a P6T Deluxe, 4870x2 or GTX 295 (not decided yet), OCZ 3GB 1600mhz tri-channel. Intel i7 920.

    Thats my rig. What should i do? Hope for a driver update?

  • This rig is OK! But I realy advise you 295GTX. Now that drivers are new 4870x2 is faster in GTAIV.But when the new drivers come out (in some months) 295GTX is going to be 30% to 40% percent faster. If you want to overclock, buy ASUS Rampage 2 formula. This Motherboard is realy stable and fast.

  • well its better than the standard custom rigs out there today, mostly would go for an Q9550 and a 4870x2, which i think is not good because i7 is gonna change the way we game.

    GTX 295 has lower memory but its so insanely fast that it SHOULD be the best card for GTAiv which its not currently!

  • I recommend you i7 (because of forums scores...). I have Q9450 and it is exellent overclocer. As it is for 295GTX: 2FPS is a small diference it can be fixed with new drivers, new GTAvi patch or some overclocing. In all games 295GTX is way better than 4870X2.I have 9800GX2 and I am happy that I didnt choose 3870X2,back then things were very alike today. The tests showed that 9800GX2 was just a little bit slower than 3870X2. Now 9800Gx2 is WAY faster thAN 3870x2!

  • huh? The 9800GX2 was always faster than the 3870x2. It was the x2 that began to catch the gx2 near its EOL, not the other way around.

  • We honestly care about the GTX295, its too late for nvidia, ati is going to fuck them up into backruptcy

  • lol the gtx295 worths 499$

    but the hd4870x2 worths 550$

    i mean thats insane the nvidia better

    and cheaper u can save 50 bucks with the

    gtx 295 and u can get a dual performence

  • check prices again, there are much cheaper 4870x2's... check alternate for example.

  • The GTX 295 in QUAD-SLI is SICK MAN

    the GURU3D Review is Awesome

  • Are you going to put the GTX 295 (possibly SLI) on your Crystal Skull system?

  • Hello, question for all you experts out there. How do 2 GTX 295's compare to 3 GTX 280's, and since the 285 is expected to be around 10% quicker than the 280 which is the way to go, 2 295's or 3 285s?

    Thanks.

  • 3 285's with a evga Physx card on a evga clasified x58 mother board should be intresting, picture on my prophile.

    Stanbony

  • are you gonna have some benchmarks to show when you get this card? I am assuming you are getting this card. It was up on newegg for purchase, a few people got their orders in early.

  • How is the skull build coming up? I was actually surprised that you took the canyon 965 when u said you want something with more 5.25 bays But I guess you stick with the best on the market. I still think that if you really want to mod your system you could go to local machine shop and design it on your own. Even with ABS template. Since you are going to paint it anyway shiny SS would be nice. Anyway, I'm looking forward for you next video. Ignore those smocks discouraging you from it.

  • I think the HD 4870 x2 is better because the GTX 296 will be very expensive

  • u are lost the GTX 295 is at 499 and it will decrase price from there many 4870x2 are at 550 540 dollars some others are under 499 but the GTX 295 is outperforming it

  • u sound sorta nervous =P great vid btw!

  • i like the "S" made in your crystal skull case :D from the tubes!

  • What a degraded answer invidia has.

    nothing spectacular.

    And why are you speaking as if your unsure of what you're talking about?

  • nobody can say anything until this card released, so at the moment the 4870x2 is the best.

    i wouldn't even trust nvidia with their benchmarks, look what the said about the 280GTX, they said that it would kick the shit out of 4870x2..... no it didn't...

  • so will 3 gtx 280's in 3-way sli outperform 2 gtx 295's in quad sli?

  • We will have to see, but it looks like it will by the specs, Its basically 2x260gtx's with 280gtx stream shaders, since 1 260 is about 15% slower than 1 280 and the shaders even closing that margin, as long as it works well in quad it will be faster.

    Stanbony