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  • rickson kardesinin agzina sicarken

  • I've trained at his school on Wilshire and have seen both him and Kron roll. It's easy to be enamored by Rickson's presence alone, but to be quite frank, I don't think Rickson is the best BJJ artist of all time. I watch Marcelo Garcia and am astonished by his technical ability and believe him to be the best P4P. In my opinion, Roger is better than Rickson was in his prime and the best BJJ artist the Gracie family has produced; however, Kron could potentially surpass Roger P4P.

  • Brasil né bixo... da joinha ae

  • RICKSON GRACIE REI DOS REIS

  • he couldn't even pass his guard, rickson made his brother look like a white belt

  • Velho... De onde surgiu aquele triângulo??oO

  • man Rickson is a BEAST!

  • classic

  • The UFC blows anyway. It's the new Pro Wrestling.

    

  • @JewishJedi1 funny coz your 'pro wrestling' wasnt even pro wrestling, it was a buncha guys in their underwear faking punches by stamping their foot on the ground.

  • @bdamaster60 wrestling? Japanese wrestler Sakuraba beat all Gracie family what you need more?

  • @Freestyleartclub Catch As Catch Can wrestling does not equal wrestling in the modern term. Your post is misleading.

  • @Freestyleartclub sakuraba was a catch wrestler bro, its all bjj, jjj, and judo techniques with a diff philosophy but its the same thing, grapppling, btw ralek destroyed sakuraba so he didnt really beat the gracie family, just a few members maybe? but on the other hand he would beat everyone in my family and probably yours lol

  • @sharkfinnigan sakuraba  beat 4 members of gracie..family.. thats enough to understand just bjj not enough to be complete fighter...he did not beat them he fucked them.. THE Gracie Hunter Sakuraba..his hero

  • @Freestyleartclub catch wrestling = bjj, thats what im trying to say, its not like GR or freestyle, all the techniques for catch are in bjj and likewise lol, he beat them because he was better at what he did not because his style was suppiror becuase it was essentially the same thing, yeah sakuraba was awesome i agree, i was more of a hickson fan myself bet you guessed lol

  • @sharkfinnigan BJJ and Catch Wrestling techniques are not the same. If you watch Sakuraba, Barnett, Tamura,Daisuke Nakamura, Funaki, Kitaoka, etc... you can see a clear difference between them and your classic BJJ players. This is especially the case with a younger/prime Sakuraba before he went to Chute Boxe. Go watch his early fights, even against the Gracies, and tell me his style resembles BJJ.

  • @Donowaman i bet you don't grapple much do you? let me let you in on a secret, most forms of grapple arts are pretty much the same, sambo, judo, bjj, catch, ect...... The diff. comes from the philosophy, look at Eric Paulson, leg lock master extortioner and also catch wrestler coach, got his start in bjj, just because you watch a few fights don't assume you know everything about grappling, Ever heard of Ralek Gracie btw? Go to a naga tournament, there are always representatives from all these

  • @sharkfinnigan No, it's not all BJJ, JJJ, and Judo. Sakuraba is a Catch Wrestler with a long freestyle wrestling career. He placed top 5 in Japan when he wrestled as an amateur in college. It's quite obvious that his main style is a form of wrestling, not BJJ. Sure, now he's had BJJ training. But for most of his career? He was a pure wrestler with Pro-Wrestling influence.

    Ralek destroyed him? Ralek beat a 41 year old man who is so broken down he can barely walk. Hardly something to brag about.

  • lets get a good shot of the spectators while rickson takes roylers back

  • Crazy!Makes Royler look like a blue belt or somethin'!

  • Demian Maia's hero s rickson gracie

    that should say enough

  • @TruNikkaz damian mais is great in bjj.but mma not so great..lol..rickson might have owned in pride but i dont think he will do so well in todays ufc against guys like matt huges gsp.

  • @JUKEBOXX1990

    matt hughes has been submitted by guys with much less of a submission reputation than prime rickson

    but who has the best jiu jitsu isn't who is gonna be the best in mma, the most well rounded fighter with the best skills will be, but that well rounded fighter will train in jiu jitsu or some similar grappling discipline.

    matt hughes and gsp both know jiu jitsu, so that helps prove my point

    the lack of wrestling and striking and no gi training is why the gracies are old school

  • @TruNikkaz LIKE I SAID IN MMA A PRIME HICKSON VS PRIME GSP OR HUGES..MOST LIKELY HUGES AND GSP WIN9 OUT OF 10 TIMES

  • @JUKEBOXX1990

    why the caps? and i agree there. but my point wasn't that rickson was the best, it's that pure wrestling is vulnerable to pure jiu jitsu, but if the wrsetler knows jiu jitsu, he can give the jiu jitsu guy lots of problems

    but to say demian maia isn't great in mma is stupid. anyone in ufc is a great fighter, and there are countless great fighters outside of the ufc too

  • @TruNikkaz damian maia is 1 dimensional

  • @JUKEBOXX1990

    he almost knocked out munoz in his last fight, he's becoming a much more evolved fighter

    and his ground game is insane which is very significant in mma.

    and regardless of what you think of him, he's in the ufc, he has a good record, and you're just some douche on the internet

  • @TruNikkaz almost isnt good enough..lol..ground game is insane..okay thats why he didn't submit munoz..guess what he get ko by marquart and destroyed by silva..hes jujitsu is very good but that's about it..you know why he wont ever be champ because he is 1 dimensional..lol..your mad??these are facts

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  • @TruNikkaz y you mad for..you must train jujitsu..lol..im entitled to my opinion..maia is 1 dimensional and no he didnt almost ko munoz.watch the fight again..rocked him mabye.almost ko.no way nikka

  • @JUKEBOXX1990

    everyone that trains mma does jiu jitsu or some type of grappling style

    i do jiu jitsu yes, but that doesn't mean that i think it's the best art or that jiu jitsu guys are better thanothers

    and of course its your opinion dickface, who the fcuk else's opinion would it be? retards are entitled to their opinions as well, doesn't mean it isn't bullshit

    bottom line is, maia is in the ufc, could knock you out, and bend you/choke you any way he wants, and you're a nobody

  • @JUKEBOXX1990 No way, and I'm a former div one wrestler saying that. Hughes was strong, but that's where it ends. The new era of the round system is a problem for any REAL grappler. The old NHB or the street, Rickson would have killed these guys, for sure. Now, I would have loved to see Wade Schalles and Rickson, or maybe Karl Gotch and Rickson. The old timers would have been an issue for any of today's fighters. That's a fact. The old Carny Wrestlers were hell!

  • @JewishJedi1 well huges and gsp would just lay on rickson..thats how you stop gjj guys you just lay on them and throw punches and pass the guard from time to time right this is mma not abu dabi..even the nogerias admit that today's wrestlers cant be submitted so easily like before..

  • Fabio Gurgel Marcelo teacher master and jacare founder of alliance bjj they were getting tapped left and right by Rickson i mean all the people who competed again rickson in tournaments were tapped and you know why cause he taught there masters

  • Give respect where respects due..

  • rickson is wearing mma gloves ,which puts him at a greater disadvantage than royler while rolling. He still dominates him.

  • Is it Rigan Machado?

  • Your talking about Fabio Gurgel

  • Marcelo Garcia would have tooled Rickson in a no gi BJJ match. I know Rickson or the Gracies for that matter are some sort of "God" to many people, so don't get all mad and defensive about this. It is simply my opinion that Marcelo Garcia would have tooled him.

  • @kanguesso

    A few years ago a multiple time BJJ World Champion and ADCC Champion who I will not name went to spar with Rickson just after winning Worlds. Rickson tapped him a number of times including a choke from Side Control from body pressure alone.

    Marcelo is incredible but no way he 'would have tooled' Rickson. I'm not so sure Marcelo would win still today.

  • @agentmma You can name names unless your statement can't be supported by facts. I know GJJ purists regard Rickson Gracie as the "God" of BJJ but i have my doubts & opinions about that. I strongly believe that Marcelo would win especially TODAY. I am not trying to be disrespectful or condescending in anyway but i think it's just one of those "Ali vs Tyson" arguments that don't get anywhere unless there is a way to travel through time. But if Rickson got in there with Marcelo today? Major Tooling.

  • @kanguesso

    I wish I could name names but I can't because I wasn't there. I know someone who was in the gym when it happened but don't feel that it would be right of me to say.

    I agree with you that it is one of those Ali vs Tyson debates. Even though Rickson is like 55 yrs old I'm still not sure Marcelo could tap him. I would love to see current footage of Rickson sparring with younger guys to see if he has lost a step.

  • @agentmma Well, if you can't name names because you weren't there, i respect that. You seem to be a stand up individual. I gotta think that Rickson has sparred with champions such as Roger Gracie, after all, they are family. I wish you could give me a hint as to whom you are referring to. lol you can always say "Allegedly" so and so fought Rickson. Hahahahahaha

  • Ill name one adcc top contendor he played with-Andre galvao. He says it himself. Rickson allowed him to mount him and escaped and in Galvao's own words 'mopped the floor' with him. While other adcc guys may be a bit better than Galvao no one tools him like rickson did. I have also seen the only people who criticize rickson are average bjj practitioners who never trained with him. world class blackbelts who have rolled with him, all praise him like no one does.

  • @vidush343

    I heard this before but Galvao isn't who I'm talking about. The person I'm talking about has an even bigger name and better competition record than Galvao, and it isn't Roger for the record.

  • @agentmma who is it?!!??!!?! LOL

  • @agentmma I think Roger is the best today, perhaps even better than Rickson because he's so much bigger. But yes, many top gi champions including Paulo Filho and Andre Galvao have gone up against Rickson and gt dominated. From my former black belt national champion instructor, he said that he once saw Rickson grapple over 15 black belts consecutively and easily dominated them all without taking a sip of water and did not breath hard. I think Marcelo would win in no gi though.

  • @vidush343 Did you also see Antonio Braga Neto mopping the floor with Andre Galvao? It is still my opinion that the very top guys, like Marcelo, Ronaldo Jacare and others would not be tooled by Rickson, i believe they'd be doing the tooling.

  • That maybe your opinion and I respect that but why dont you go look at the opinions of these people regarding rickson- Fabio Gurgel (Marcelo's coach), demian maia, werdum, dave camarillo,roy harris, the ribiero brothers. I didnt even name any gracie and I really doubt they are all lying.

  • @vidush343 Sure they have favorable opinions about Rickson, What does that mean? Just because Anderson Silva thinks BJ Penn is the best MMA fighter in the world does not mean he couldn't Mop the floor with him. Like i have said before, it's only an opinion.

  • @kanguesso Maybe. I think they live in different worlds too though. Tournament Jits versus Submission only Jiu jitsu vs mma. There are some young top level guys in jiu jitsu that have rolled with Rickson, and they admit that he is much better. I'd like to the see the match either way.

  • @agentmma You seem very knowledgeable about jiu jitsu and MMA, but if you genuinely feel Rickson is better than Marcelo Garcia, I cannot show you how delusional you are ....

  • @agentmma Name him, ive heard this somewhere also but Marcelo is tooling everyone, eddie bravo said they had a mega seminar at ATT and he tooled everyone there including top guys brought in for the seminar

  • @agentmma There are too many "legendary" tales out there and your story doesn't help its case. Now, I believe Rickson is the best Gracie when it comes to BJJ, and I doubt Marcelo would easily beat Rickson, but your story honestly doesn't sound credible (but it can be believable). I'm not trying to sound hostile, but really.

  • @kanguesso He man i respect everybody's opinion when they are in the context of being rational however using the word "tooled" is very huge on Rickson, secondly no disrespect to Marcelo Garcia but when he is able to defeat Roger Gracie then i would consider the possibility of him "surviving" against Rickson. people like David Camarillo and Paulo Filho have admitted that Rickson Gracie's jiu jitsu is unparalleled

  • @leothephantom7 Like i have said before, I know Rickson Gracie is a "God" to many people but it is simply my opinion that he isn't. Just because Roger Gracie can beat Marcelo Garcia does not mean Garcia can't tool Rickson. You believe Rickson is "God" and i believe he's very much human and very much beatable. I guess we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree.

  • @kanguesso First of all, thumps up to u my friend for being polite nd respectful. I mentioned Roger Gracie b/c

    he is the only person considered by everybody as da best grappler in the last 6 years and his style nd approach in grappling is very similar to Rickson. both r strong but never aggressive and both r fluid but not explosive. anyways as u said everybody is entitled of his own opinion.

  • @kanguesso

    Its my opinion that your opinion is wrong.

    But dont get angry.

  • @SkemeKOS I could be wrong, BUT I DOUBT IT.

  • @kanguesso For Ricksons time, he was like a god. No other bjj guy in that time could compete with him. Bjj has evolutionized since though. There are so many new positions and submissions since then. But look what Rickson has done with his son Kron! That kid will be dominating in the years to come. Marcelo would beat him, but bjj is different today. To me the only good gracies out of the brothers were rickson and royler. but today the best bjj guy is Roger gracie! 3 time absolute champ!

  • @sublime2744 I would i agree with that and that was partially the point i have been trying to convey to people. Rickson may have been "God" in his time but BJJ has evolved like EVERY OTHER SPORT. And that's what most of his disciples don't want to understand. They speak as if he can walk into a BJJ matt today and chew the top guys of today out with such an ease.

  • @kanguesso I train under Team Alliance and used to be under gracie barra, but every instructor i meet says that Rickson was simply amazing in those days for where bjj was. There was nothing like him.

  • @kanguesso

    you cant really say that..unless it happened...you are just spekulating...its like saying maradona is better than Pelè in soccer.

  • @morgall You're right, it is like saying Maradona is better than Pele, but guess what, people still say it. I was simply responding to many who think Rickson is a "God".

  • @kanguesso perhaps in no gi it would be a challenge for rickson against marcelo but with gi I think Rickson would take beat marcelo. his grip and technique are the best i've seen.

  • @kanguesso Yea how?? Since you seem so sure explain how, by points???

  • @GrappleGrip As you can clearly see on this page, i have had an extensive argument over this subject. Explaining why i think Marcelo Garcia would tool Rickson to you all over again would just create another long drawn out argument that leads us nowhere. At the end of the day, it is just an opinion that i am entitled to have as well as you are entitled to have yours.

  • @kanguesso Your filibustering does not give you any credibility to even express you opinion. I don't have a problem with you thinking Garcia would win, but when you choose to say things like "Marcelo Garcia would tool him" than create excuses like saying "it's my opinion" to escape the fact that you have no premise to your "opinion" Is just cause for others to express their opinion towards you, if you dont like watch what you write. Roger Gracie beat Garcia, no fancy stuff just Gracie JiuJItsu

  • @GrappleGrip See? what did i say? you want a piece of an argument that took place a month ago.

  • @kanguesso "O" I see you can spend energy, by replying that I want a piece of a so called argument. However you cannot not answer my question. Thank you, your non answer answered my question and proved of what I though of you was correct. You are correct there is no need to go any further, have a nice life.

  • @GrappleGrip Thanks.

  • @kanguesso Don't know either one personally, but I do know Sakuraba, and he would have beaten Rickson, I think? His wrestling is far, far better, and he has sick submission skills. IMO

  • @JewishJedi1

    Sakuraba was awesome but I doubt he would have beaten Rickson. Nobuhiko Takada was one of Saks teachers and training partners who use to tap him on the regular. Rickson submitted Takada by armbar twice in Pride. I know that just because Rickson beat Takada who tapped Sakuraba in training doesn't prove Rickson would have won but in my world it does :)

  • @agentmma The one thing Rickson and many Brazilians having going for themselves is time in training. rickson probably has been doing jits for 40 years. Sak, only has been doing catch around ten then. Time in is important. That would have been a classic match up, too bad we will never really know. Take care

  • @agentmma If you honestly think Takada did ANYTHING to Sakuraba in training, you're delusional. Takada was less of a trainer/fighter and more of a mascot. Pure pro wrestler with very little fighting/grappling skill.

    It'd be like saying 50 Cent KO's Floyd Mayweather in play sparring.

  • Rickson is a God.

  • rickson gracie is too much for royler he tooled him

  • i love gracie jiu jitsu if not of gracie jiu jitsu there will b no jiu jitsu but u gotta agree with eddie bravo gracie jiu jitsu is boring compare to 10th planet jiu jitsu

  • @poganla123 i completely disagree......i love bjj or gracie jj and i love the 10th planet stuff too...judo was my first love......then as i got older i moved onto bjj......bjj is far from boring....ok put it this way..is 10th planet boring compared to judo?..judo is more dynamic ..........i like eddie bravo and i love his system...but i think eddie is just talking up his 10th planet system..and why wouldn't he....bjj or 10th planet or just grappling is all great ..boring is not a word to use

  • Hey everyone, I've been doing some reading lately and seems that bjj is nothing more than kosen judo. I found some info about how it was an old style that dominated in judo and that there really isn't anything new in bjj.

  • @thepianoguy77 yup and judo is nothing more than japanese jui-jitsu with added variations and throws. and bjj is nothing more than judo with greater emphasis on groundwork and leverage. and 10th planet jui-jitsu is nothing more than bjj with added application of rubber gaurd and emphasis on flexibility.

  • @BootyBot Don't 4 get Wrestling. 10th planet JJ's twister is the Guillotine in Wrestling from which Eddie borrowed it..Among other techs. Also BJJ is more than 'Judo' it's a culmination of all of Maeda's & Helio's experiences against other styles. Much cross training went on between the combatants after they fought and they traded techniques and added them to their own styles. When Catch Wrestler Ad Santel Beat a Judo 5th Dan in 1914 , Judoka Became fascinated by Catch & added it to their Judo.

  • @jujutsu987 exactly. thank you.

  • i hate the cameraman 

  • dude,rickson is just fucking with him the entire time

  • @ordaboy DUDE, IT IT WAS NOT FOR HIS BROTHER, ROYCE GRACIE, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN JUIJITSU BRAZILIAN STYLE. THEREFORE, THAT MAKES ME NOT AN ENEMY OF (BJJ) OR THE GARACIE FAMILY. HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THAT HICKSON GRACIE IS A VERY GOOD MAN AND HE HAS NOTHING TO PROVE AND MANY CAN LEARN FROM HIM. BUT WHAT ABOUT YOU? WHAT ABOUT YOU BEYOND BRAZILIAN JUIJITSU? THESE ARE QUESTIONS TO BE RAISED AND PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN TO LOOK WITHIN AND STOP THINKING ABOUT FIGHTING ALL THE TIME;JIUJITSU IS MORE!

  • damn I don't think I've seen Royler dominated like that in grappling.

  • stupid camera man, always when something good happens, maybe a sweep or triangle he´s filmimg around like a drunk retard -.-

    but nice stuff !

  • WHY DON'T YOU GUYS STOP TALKING SO MUCH SHIT ABOUT RICKSON GRACIE. ALTHOUGH HE IS VERY GOOD, BUT MOST OF YOU GUYS BEHAVE LIKE THE MAN IS SOME KIND OF "GOD"; HE IS JUST A MAN AND THAT IS IT. SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER PRACTICE JIUJITSU AND BEHAVING LIKE FUCKING CHEERLEADER BITCHES! ALSO LEARN TO RESPECT YOUR OWN TEACHERS IF YOU ARE PRACTICING JIUJITSU, AND STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ALL WANT THE MAN TO FUCK YOU! SCARY LITTLE BITCHES, MOST OF YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN LOOK THE MAN IN THE EYE!

  • @daniels37 i got to roll with him, his seminar video that he did at the school i attend is right here on youtube, how bout that a?? and people respect him so much because he is considered a master at what he does which is very difficult for just any human being to achieve

  • @ordaboy WHY ARE YOU SO SENSITIVE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH RICKSON AND HIS FAMILY, HE IS A GREAT MAN INDEED AND HE IS ONE OF THE BEST. MY PROBLEM IS WITH PEOPLE WORSHIPING HIS AS A (GOD) AND NOT GIVING ENOUGH RESPECT TO THEIR OWN MASTERS AND OTHER TEACHERS WHO SPENT THE TIME TEACHING THEM JUIJITSU OR ANY OTHER ART FOR THAT MATTER. I BELIEVE PEOPLE MUST LEARN TO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN ABILITY. SO NOW WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY? THANK YOU!

  • @daniels37 my teacher said when he introduced rickson back in march when he came to our school for a seminar,that a true martial arts master comes around only once every hundred years,there are people that wish to meet someone like rickson and will die never stepping foot on the same continent,i actually recieved a blue belt from his hands.to me he's a big deal from a jiujitsu perspective because he really has mastered it.his son died,hes going through divorce,he is man,i understand this.

  • I don't grapple, but I like how a big part of the game is not actually controlling your opponent, but also trying to conserve energy. There's so many subtle movements that I wish I understood.

  • royler weighs 140lbs...c'mon...sakuraba destroyed him

  • puts o cara mexeu a camera nos melhores momentos porra

  • Seeing this makes me wish I took up the sport 20 years ago /sigh

  • it seemed like the camera man missed all the good stuff

  • I notice Rickson is suseptible to the guillotine a lot, not that he taps, but he gets stuck there like he did in choke, must be because he goes for the takedown a lot.

  • @RightWingCon81 HE knows when he's in a guillotine. That's why he postures up and pushes royler's legs away. that way the arm may be around the neck partially, it won't choke him...Rickson has been around for so long he knows every tiny bit of the game

  • Royler won ADCC multiple times, and Rickson did this to him? Rickson would rape any of the top grapplers today.

  • @socalled47 rickson also retired at 500 and 0

  • @fwfbrawler 400-0 :D :)

  • @fwfbrawler

    that's a bullshit record, just so you know

  • @socalled47 it is true that rickson is one of the best grapplers alive, but he also grew up with rickson and is used to training with him which helps him to do better

  • @socalled47 my thoughts exactly. Rickson was way ahead of his time.

  • @socalled47

    in pure grappling I would say yes...

    but what about Rickson vs. Modern Roger Gracie....that would be one hell of a spar.

    Roger has not been submitted in professional grappling

  • @AceofDlamonds Yeah that would be unbelieveable and despite my previous comment, I would say that Roger would beat Rickson...maybe not submit him, but at least dominate him. However nobody knows how rickson would fair today. He might surprise everyone by subbing Roger if they competed, who knows! Not outside the realms of reality. Firmly within them.

  • @socalled47

    I totally agree....Roger's technical ability is probably pretty damn close to Rickson, if not equal, and his larger size would help him at least control the fight, even if not submitting Rickson or vise versa. He could win by points I suppose.

    But yeah, we might all be wrong and Rickson may still be the very best ever.

  • @CoreAndGore - Why would you upload a video of yourself skipping to music, with no shirt on?? Faggot. I bet you get your fap on to this video.

  • @retardno002 - Oii dumbshit, i didnt call them gay. I said it was very homo erotic. You can interpret that anyway you wish. Oh 30 sec's im sooo scared. How about you stop brown nosing them and grow a spine.

  • @lilzeus7 you're not scared because you're on the internet, tough guy.

  • Very homo erotic ...

  • @lilzeus7

    Are you serious? These men could kill you in 30 seconds and you have the nerve to call them gay...

  • incestuous fight so sexy

  • Excellence.

  • Both of these guys have great control. Both are beyond words in thier abilities. Rickson is incredible.

  • royler is a bjj god and rickson did that to him rickson is one of the best grapplers ever

  • Damn! at 7:10 that was incredible. Royler woulda blasted through anyone else's guard.

  • rickson just owned royler in that session... Not once did he use his weight or strength advantage, just pure Jiu-Jitsu

    amazing

  • Royler go "squash"

  • Poor Royler lol.

    Rickson is toying with him!

  • teoricamente o rickson teria que mostrar o que muitos sonham em ver: o seu verdadeiro jogo da guarda, ou seja, teria que impedir que aqueles socos cavalares do fedor entrassem em sua guarda, como aconteceu com minotauro, feito isto passaria para as costas e estrangularia, mas acredito que a idade faria a diferença.

  • tempozinho bom que não volta mais...... vai fazer esse joguinho com fedor.....

  • Oq vc acha q iria acontecer?

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