Headzup: Overriding Bush's SCHIP Veto

[bleekblock]

Ask any liberal, if our medical system is so bad, then why do we lead the world in medical, pharmaceutical and biotech research? And, if a person (famous or not) needs intricate, or high-risk surgery, then why do they always come to the US? This would all be gone if we had socialized medicine.

[bleekblock]

We already have Medicare, and look how great that is doing. Socialized medicine would cause the average American's taxes to go up an average of 7.5% - 10%, and with all the baby boomers getting older, it would be an absolute disaster to the economy. Just imagine the level of bureaucracy that it would create.

[bleekblock]

The average waiting time in a doctor's office in England is 6.5 hours the average time that you spend with the doctor - 7.5 minutes.  The average waiting time in a doctor's office in the US is 35 minutes the average time that you spend with the doctor - 18.25 minutes. Look what England is doing now; if you smoke, drink or are overweight, the government is cutting your benefits.

[bleekblock]

I am against the government in any part of my personal/private life. Fix my roads, build my schools, and defend my home; that's really all I need. I am also for smaller government. Socialized Medicine hasn't worked in USSR, England, Germany, Canada, France etc. All it creates is a mediocre medical system.

[odetomy]

Hahahahahahahaha!!! I truly believe the other Republicans would jump off a building if he asked them too! All the ones I've contacted about HR 676 have proven him right. Makes me sick!! We need HR 676! It's going to take a lot of people contacting these politicians, putting the pressure on, to get them to change their minds!

[bleekblock]

Good foe Bush. Schip was a good program drafted into legislation by the Republicans. The Democrats have extended it to families making 80K a year. This will lead to insurance premiums going up dramatically. It is now backdoor socialized medicine.

[odetomy]

Oh, get real!! Stop with the SOCIALIZED MEDICINE scare tactic!! It's stupid and outdated! People know that universal healthcare works. Apparently you haven't noticed how high the cost of living is. This will do the opposite of what you say. I'm so sick of arguing with ellite-minded people, who live in a bubble, and have no clue what's really going on. They only care about their dang money, lifestyle, and big business, unless they are the ones who need help. Pathetic!

[hiimallen]

"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." -Adolph Hitler

[JustMightBeGod]

goodness libs...pathetic video, even for propaganda.

[Fallschirmjager11]

This expansion of Schip is a stupid idea. The expansion would put families of 4 who make 40-60,000 a year (or more in some states) on the govt dole. The median income in the US is 44,000/yr so this means putting many people in the top half of wage earners on govt assistance. We can't afford nonsense like that, it's a stupid idea. Poor kids only.

[Spartanz1170]

dude it seems Bush seems to hate poor children, what a scrooge

[madmanpso]

SCHIP is largely funded on the taxes of cigarettes. So, to cover more people, we all have to smoke more. It's a very dumb idea.

[vi3txchris]

you are so friggin bias its hillarious. this is what a typical conversation is like:

"do you support the schip thing?"

(if they even know what that is...) "why yes i do. and i hate george bush blah blah"

"then you would agree to pay more tax to support it?"

" uh...i hate george bush blah blah terrorist are gonna bomb us all!!!

[sonick808]

smoke more cigarettes for the children!!!

[cheeseburger12]

I wonder when SCHIP will be expanded to cover children up to age 30?

[GWBushsuks]

as the current figures for the Iraq war are....

$122,820 per minute....

7.4 m. per hr...

4.5 b. per month...and rising... why is it most conservatives justify this cost of taxpayer money exceptable, but yet condemn domestic health care as a horrendous drain to our National treasury?

[beatboxbill]

Conservatives have presented before Congress the idea of health insurance for children who were of families with low income. This is different being that S-CHIP has been used to aid adults, even though the intention is for children. And now it is going to be funded by 61 cent increase on cigarettes which mean 22 million American's need to pick up smoking in order to fund the S-CHIP. This is why it is unacceptable, and you can see which spending (Iraq War) or (S-CHIP) is less acceptable.

[wrassleman]

in it's vetoed form, the program had waivers that would cover people up to 25 years old, and kids whose parents make up to $83,000 per year. president bush and the repbulicans that voted against it want the waivers taken out.

[vocalbrush]

RLMAO

[rebelbrew]

All those who refused to override the veto of this important program for our kids get free health insurance!!! That is criminal. Everyone American deserves health insurance.

[rspur3strk07]

g.w.b is a faggot, he needs to go to hell all he cares about is the rich people, he leaves the poor people in the dirt where they were unfortunately raised. PURE ASSHOLE!

[eksdem]

Great fiction -

The Democrats let a likeable, but misinformed, young man say, on national radio, that Bush doesn't want to help kids like him.

Facts indicate Bush wants to help needy children.

Bush's budget included a

****$5 billion dollar increase in funding****

for the current SCHIP program, which is the program which helped Graeme.

Why DID the Democrats chose to use Graeme to spread their lies?

[eksdem]

I give 5 stars for the picture of Bush that was chosen for this video.

[GWBushsuks]

wow, your serious right? Bush vetoed SCHIP even when 20 conservative republicans agreed and passed the resolution toward a serious domestic need of health insurance for our American children. and BUSH STILL GAVE A THUMBS DOWN. wether he was given bad advice or did it through his own accord only confirms his self proclaimed Christian values are disguised for posturing his political rhetoric and lemmings like you are still clinging to defending his mistaken agendas?

[eksdem]

The Democrats are heartless opportunists.

Bush believes in "truth in advertising."

If the Democrats wanted to continue the SCHIP program, they could have done that, with an increase of $5 billion.

Instead they altered the program beyond recognition and slapped on the old label, SCHIP.

They hoped the public would buy the skunk they had labelled as sweet "puppy dog."

[simplyb1980isback]

And your a fascist.

[eksdem]

The Democrats tried to deceive the voters. (As usual...sigh!)

They tried to sell voters a SKUNK disguised as a "cute puppy dog."

Their new SCHIP program was not the same child-centric program which Graeme Frost said helped him.

Bush was willing to increase funding by $5 billion for the SCHIP program which helped Graeme.

If Democrats wanted Bush to sign an act which helps kids, they should have given him an act which helps kids.

[GWBushsuks]

your analogys are way off base and out of touch with what is reality. you can babble and double-speak all you wish but the underlaying truth of the mater is Bush vetoed SCHIP and it was wrong.

[seth7684]

If by skunk you mean children's health care, then yes. Of course the problem with the program is it costs money and we need that money to pay Blackwater to shoot Iraqi kids. So with all the money we save with American dying babies we can kill more Iraqi babies. What a great plan.

[shaire99]

This veto, as despicable as it is, will serve us well in the end. It will absolutely, positively torpedo the next election for the Repubes. They are out the door on every front, both houses of congress and certainly, it goes without saying, the presidency. We can wait a year and half to help the lower mid class with insuring their kids. A small price to pay to be rid of these hypocrite Repubes.

[vocalbrush]

Im in the lower middle class.they cut us off because i make 700$ more a year than last. then they penalized me 220$ for not having it right after the boot.not taking into account that we have an ARM mortgage rate at 10.3% and rising,the cost of living in my town, the $we dish out for broke schools,etc.we are making sacrifices for private insurance.state aid doesn't work- you move up an inch-they take a mile.They don't consider home maintenance costs either.fuck the govt.

[mindfire13]

I seriously hope you die. I'll be praying for it. Oh and if you have kids I hope they get sick and your health insurance drops them. (because YOU obviously have it) Go to hell you Repuke dumbass! "The democrats tried to decieve the voters"???? OMG you are so stupid. What have the repukes done then? Oh yeah, they hate gays,blacks,jews,the poor, and anyone who dares speak the truth. Drop dead.

[Causalspark]

Kids? SCHIP covers kids? I thought they covered people up to 25 YEARS OF AGE!

[thutchin]

It doesn't help any public dialogue to say that one party is against children. No political party is against children! The questions are, at what cost are we for children, and is this particular bill doing what it is intended to do. No government help is free, and trade-offs must be considered on each bill. This bill is very expensive and it allows many to get help who really are financially able to help themselves or who are old enough not to be considered children.

[RightUSA]

Well said.

[sonick808]

mindfire13: thank you for the substantive argument. Very enlightening.

[RightUSA]

With a user name like yours, your comments are not weighed as heavily as they might otherwise. Pluse, there is not a serious domestic need of health insurance for our children.

[GWBushsuks]

rightusa,with President Bush at a 28% national approval rating, im not overly concerned with my user name offending people except for the 28% of the people on the right wing. your comment upon support for Bush's veto of SCIP proves the point to a tee.

[Cornplanter]

"Pluse, there is not a serious domestic need of health insurance for our children."

Sure there is. Our child mortality rate is 27th in the world. The only "developing" countries the USA beat out, were those we used to lovingly refer to as being behind the "Iron Curtain".

[GWBushsuks]

the only GOOD thing about Bush's veto of SCHIP is it will come back to haunt republican candidate's in Q & A for '08. i can hear them distancing themselves from Bush already.

[nulterminator]

The expansion of this program was logical and necessary. Bush is an idiot for trying to blame the veto on the expansion of the program. In New York, a family of 4 making $80k is poor. They need this program. If you don't understand that you are an idiot.

[jjones1987]

SCHIP would have made it so that families making up to $80,000 a year could put heir children on the program, effectively taking 2 million children off of private insurance. It would also have covered "children" up to 25 years old. Since when is an 18-25 year old a child? Back in 93 a Clinton administration memo stated that using the issue of children's health would get us one step closer to socialized government health care. This was a sneaky bill to put us on the path of Hillary care!

[Lungyao1]

Freaking Awesome!

[manicwithmark]

Truly awful if Republicans don't wake up. All their arguments are moot. They can't argue entitlements or socialism because 1) much of the money the states use to buy PRIVATE health insurance for the kids and 2) the Rep controlled Congress drafted and voted for the HUGE Medicaid payout for seniors a couple years back, which fits the precise definition of what they suddenly oppose in SCHIP. Plus it's just disgustingly heartless.

[jjones1987]

SCHIP would have made it so that families making up to $80,000 a year could put heir children on the program, effectively taking 2 million children off of private insurance. It would also have covered "children" up to 25 years old. Since when is an 18-25 year old a child? Back in 93 a Clinton administration memo stated that using the issue of children's health would get us one step closer to socialized government health care. This was a sneaky bill to put us on the path of Hillary care!

[manicwithmark]

lol. OH No! Not healthcare for everyone! Rue the day! This is the logic of the fringe- let's deny healthcare to children, because adults might wake up and realize- hell, the system is working, let's institute some form of universal healthcare for all Americans like EVERY OTHER major, industrialized nation does. Better to stay in the Dark Ages and keep things F'ed up system we have. I have some leeches for you, little Timmy.

[bleekblock]

@manicwithmark There isn't any such thing as a free lunch. SCHIP expanded health coverage for families making 80K or above. Then they Congress went on to argue "but it is for the children" to pass the latest expansion of government.

[nulterminator]

Moron. Do you even know how SCHIP works? Do you realize the 'S' in SCHIP stands for State? Did you know the parameters of the bill are different based on where you are from and how many people are in your family? I bet a family of 4 in New York making $80k/year needs this program. You're an idiot and you should be quiet instead of misinforming people.

[jjones1987]

How does a family of 4 making 80k a year anywhere need SCHIP?! Don't cry to me just because you can't handle the facts.

[nulterminator]

Nice response. Too bad it's as lame as the rhetoric and propaganda you are spreading.

[breaks0]

Wow the GOP is full of lemmings. Who knew? Now how 'bout the democrats?

[wiskawind]

Republicans only serve their Party and Bush and Co; not the American people!

[jonathanwindham]

it's true

[PopeKurt]

i know of like a few republicans, maybe 6 or 8, that have been fighting pres bush on a few issues recently. but 20... thats gonna be hard to do.

Whens the vote to ovveride or not?

[TallestIrkenElite]

rofl

[elshizzo]

there goes John Boner, whoz next

[KingRoanMoore]

cool.

[IndieinExile]

Whelp, he's the decider.