In japan there was the mark III,which is not the japanese version of the sms !
There was also a japanese master system,which was black,just like the western models.This version had the fm as standard,a cartridge slot which was the same width as the mark III,could also play all previous carts (mark I II and III)and it also had the 3d adapter built into the console,you just plugged in the spec's lead into the jack on the front.
You can also buy a japan only version of the master system convertor
@1dosucol1 Which plugs into the top of the mega drive and lets you play mark III jap sms games (and i'd assume, all previous mark I and II carts).It's called the mega adapter.
if you people want fm in a non Japanese Master System, there is an expansion port on the back that will tike the FM chip. or, if you have the Master system 2 (because it lacks the expansion slot) you should be able to go online or even into a music shop and buy an FM (Yamaha YM2413) chip you can solder it into you system.
Wow, this is amazing! The FM version sounds so close to the original arcade music. This makes me look at the SMS in a different light, totally. SEGA made so many blunders in the home market and this is yet another example.
The SMS was regarded in Europe and the U.S as having really poor sound - this would've made all the difference to those perceptions.
there are some shooters on genesis like verytex that prove this discussion worthless verytex has really rich sound for agenesis,but sega really did good with this little system.
It's the type of sound used for this music. The North American SMS uses PSG like the NES.
In Japan the SMS got an add-on that lets games support FM sound, the type the Genesis uses.
Not all PSG or FM sound is the same kind, they're more of a broad format. The SMS and NES have different PSG and the SMS and Genesis have different FM sound.
FM stands for Frequency Modulation; in the case of the Sega Mark III, the music produced by the console is synthesized by a FM sound chip (Yamaha YM2413).
Other 8-bit systems relied on less advanced technology to synthesise music and sfx; basically just square and noise waves on a restricted number of channels.
This is why certain sound channels (typically drums) stop playing when a sfx is triggered on some NES/SMS games for instance.
It's similar. But Genesis/Mega Drive had better FM capabilities (more operators) plus PSG sound (same as Master System) and one PCM (for voice samples and often used for drumsounds). I love the sound! :)
But Genesis had just 6 channels of FM (5 if you enabled the digi-sound on channel 6) and its digital sound was very bad as the entire sound hardware had just 8 kilobytes of RAM.
The SG1000 Mark III FM had 9 channels of tone FM sound or 6 channels of tone FM + 5 percurssion channels, so it is superior to Genesis FM in some aspects and inferior in others.
Also, the Genesis FM doesnt really sound much better than 2-operator OPL2 on Adlib-Soundblaster on PC or OPLL on SG1000 Mark III FM.
A "Sega Mark III Master System". Its shell and box look like the North American SMS, but it has built-in FM sound and 3D gasses support (among other things).
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm gonna do. I was actually going to mod my SMS with a YM2413, but I couldn't figure out the mod for it. The worst part is I think I'm stuck with the YM2413 chip I've got, since I spent almost $40 on a Yamaha keyboard that I desoldered the chip from.
What is R-Type? Is it a flight-simulator? Hey SuperPCEngingGrafx, I DARE you to post up some Audio Deathmatches up here on YouTube, since you haven't uploaded a video for a while.
I've got something like that in the works for an upcoming feature for my site. The video will display which console the sound is playing from as the audio switches between versions.
I had the impression that flying in planes, no matter what perspective, was considered a flight-simulator. I remember that coming from a strategy guide I read a while ago.
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I always loved the tunes starting at 3:48 & 4:53
indiscipline 3 weeks ago
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indiscipline 3 weeks ago
In japan there was the mark III,which is not the japanese version of the sms !
There was also a japanese master system,which was black,just like the western models.This version had the fm as standard,a cartridge slot which was the same width as the mark III,could also play all previous carts (mark I II and III)and it also had the 3d adapter built into the console,you just plugged in the spec's lead into the jack on the front.
You can also buy a japan only version of the master system convertor
1dosucol1 1 year ago
@1dosucol1 Which plugs into the top of the mega drive and lets you play mark III jap sms games (and i'd assume, all previous mark I and II carts).It's called the mega adapter.
If you can find one .
1dosucol1 1 year ago
The U.S. master system weakest feature was the sound. Nintendo had it beat on that.
rojman123 1 year ago
I'm totally getting an FM chip for my master system. R-Type was my second favorite master system game next to Alex Kidd.
shorty1k 1 year ago
if you people want fm in a non Japanese Master System, there is an expansion port on the back that will tike the FM chip. or, if you have the Master system 2 (because it lacks the expansion slot) you should be able to go online or even into a music shop and buy an FM (Yamaha YM2413) chip you can solder it into you system.
deathworm101 1 year ago
better in c64
leknightcluber 2 years ago
Will you also upload the FM soundtrack of the Sega Master System version of Irem's Vigilante?
1983parrothead 2 years ago
Wow, this is amazing! The FM version sounds so close to the original arcade music. This makes me look at the SMS in a different light, totally. SEGA made so many blunders in the home market and this is yet another example.
The SMS was regarded in Europe and the U.S as having really poor sound - this would've made all the difference to those perceptions.
Nice vid, thanks for sharing.
JayArgonaut 2 years ago 2
Some Famicom Disk System games like The Legend of Zelda and Gyruss also have FM sound.
1983parrothead 2 years ago
there are some shooters on genesis like verytex that prove this discussion worthless verytex has really rich sound for agenesis,but sega really did good with this little system.
aryinc 2 years ago
Is there any place on the web I can get the track from 5:05?
SpiralPegasus 3 years ago
Co-signed question!!
Feesharp9er 2 years ago
What means "FM" ?
falagarius 3 years ago
It's the type of sound used for this music. The North American SMS uses PSG like the NES.
In Japan the SMS got an add-on that lets games support FM sound, the type the Genesis uses.
Not all PSG or FM sound is the same kind, they're more of a broad format. The SMS and NES have different PSG and the SMS and Genesis have different FM sound.
superpcenginegrafx 3 years ago
FM sounds are better imo :)
Bluefox95 2 years ago
@superpcenginegrafx Will you upload the PC Engine version's soundtrack sometime soon?
IvoryGecko1993 10 months ago
Thanks!
I bet the pal version is also only PSG :(
FM Sounds incredible.
falagarius 3 years ago 4
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qbaseden 2 years ago
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FM stands for Frequency Modulation; in the case of the Sega Mark III, the music produced by the console is synthesized by a FM sound chip (Yamaha YM2413).
Other 8-bit systems relied on less advanced technology to synthesise music and sfx; basically just square and noise waves on a restricted number of channels.
This is why certain sound channels (typically drums) stop playing when a sfx is triggered on some NES/SMS games for instance.
qbaseden 2 years ago
@falagarius Frequency Modulation
xDaXAFImoshmonkey 2 weeks ago
This sounds like Sega Genesis!
I envy the Japanese!
m1omg 3 years ago 6
It's similar. But Genesis/Mega Drive had better FM capabilities (more operators) plus PSG sound (same as Master System) and one PCM (for voice samples and often used for drumsounds). I love the sound! :)
YuzoTibi 3 years ago 6
But Genesis had just 6 channels of FM (5 if you enabled the digi-sound on channel 6) and its digital sound was very bad as the entire sound hardware had just 8 kilobytes of RAM.
The SG1000 Mark III FM had 9 channels of tone FM sound or 6 channels of tone FM + 5 percurssion channels, so it is superior to Genesis FM in some aspects and inferior in others.
Also, the Genesis FM doesnt really sound much better than 2-operator OPL2 on Adlib-Soundblaster on PC or OPLL on SG1000 Mark III FM.
m1omg 3 years ago
Interesting, thank you for the info & comparison of the audio capabilities of the Mark III & Genesis.
It is odd that Sega would allow the audio of Mega Drive/Genesis to be inferior, even in some aspects, to that of the Mark III.
turbografx 3 years ago
@YuzoTibi
I recall the PSG can be converted to play samples(but at the cost of CPU power).
SgtThom 11 months ago
@m1omg This is why Sega needs to make R-Type II for the Genesis.
IvoryGecko1993 1 year ago
thnx for this - I just thought it was MSX carts that had extra FM sound addition.
dreamcastII 4 years ago
Sega Mark III games from 1987-89 has FM sound.
Nintega 4 years ago 3
What exactly did you record this from? A Mark III with the FM unit or a Japanese SMS?
ApolloBoy 4 years ago
A "Sega Mark III Master System". Its shell and box look like the North American SMS, but it has built-in FM sound and 3D gasses support (among other things).
superpcenginegrafx 4 years ago
Cool, I'm actually gonna get one of those as my grad present.
ApolloBoy 4 years ago
You can buy a SMS to MarkIII cart adaptor from tototek for like $15. Most SMS games still have the fm code in them.
superpcenginegrafx 4 years ago
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm gonna do. I was actually going to mod my SMS with a YM2413, but I couldn't figure out the mod for it. The worst part is I think I'm stuck with the YM2413 chip I've got, since I spent almost $40 on a Yamaha keyboard that I desoldered the chip from.
ApolloBoy 4 years ago
Wait a second. You mean you can play American SMS games on a Mark III Master System with that thing?
Nintega 4 years ago
Yup. Almost all work, but not every non-japan cart whose japanese version supports FM will play in FM on Mark III systems.
Most still have the FM code though.
superpcenginegrafx 4 years ago
Awesome. I better get one of those before they get rare then.
Nintega 4 years ago
@superpcenginegrafx Does Sonic The Hedgehog 1 on Master System have FM sound? If so, could you upload the entire Soundtrack of Sonic 1 in FM? Thanks.
IvoryGecko1993 1 year ago
@IvoryGecko1993 I doubt it does. Unfortunately, I only have Sonic 2 and Chaos. Next chance I get I'll check Sonic 1 in an emulator.
superpcenginegrafx 1 year ago
Wow. This soundtrack is wonderful. Wish I'd owned this version. Especially love the sounds from the stage that is heard at around the 3:49 mark...
tesubcalle 4 years ago
What is R-Type? Is it a flight-simulator? Hey SuperPCEngingGrafx, I DARE you to post up some Audio Deathmatches up here on YouTube, since you haven't uploaded a video for a while.
OceanBlueKirby 4 years ago
I've got something like that in the works for an upcoming feature for my site. The video will display which console the sound is playing from as the audio switches between versions.
superpcenginegrafx 4 years ago
Cool! I can't wait to see it! May all systems dish out their best sound!!!
OceanBlueKirby 4 years ago
R-Type is a horizontal shooter, and a very good one at that.
ApolloBoy 4 years ago
Yea, that's what I meant by flight-simulator. Thanks for telling me about it a bit.
OceanBlueKirby 4 years ago
A flight simulator and shooter are two totally different genres though.
ApolloBoy 4 years ago
I had the impression that flying in planes, no matter what perspective, was considered a flight-simulator. I remember that coming from a strategy guide I read a while ago.
OceanBlueKirby 4 years ago
Awesome! I envy the Japanese for getting better music in their late released Master System games.
Nintega 5 years ago