hel yah...i use to own an 95 f22 acc0rd coupe..n it use to smash on fools..im thinkn of going bak to one..but f I do , ima go g series..frankienstn boii....:)
f22 has lower compression and the sleeves are different. h22 is high compression and the FRM sleeves cant handle more then 7 psi unless you want to blowup
i got h22a rite now. iwould go with g series but its not as long lasting as other combos. i'm probably just going resleeve to boost with low comp pistons n forged rods n skunk 2 turbo cam
@JustBlaz3z IF you are gonna go that path use a toda cam. they are $500 more brand new than the skun2 camshaft but well, well worth it when it comes to power.
I have a cd5-96 accord 4 Dr with a h22a conversion(red top) and I'm doing 13's in a 1/4 mile check it out chris's accord sir and tell me what Yall think
F22 has a better flowing head and is better for turbo. The H22 IS technically faster and has shorter gears. But once ur in 5th it's acceleration and top speed aren't that great. But in a 1/4 mile u should be hitting 5th w/o red lining it. An h23 would be better for a bit longer gears and a turbo charger.
completly correct cb7poet!!! (: VTEC & DOHC is EXTREMLY EXTREMLY overrated! im a non- vtec, SOHC guy :) but it all depends on what you want as well...
VTEC and DOHC are both over-rated. VTEC is great for fuel economy (as opposed to just running a non-VTEC cam with big lobes all the time) And the only advantage to DOHC is to change the valve timing in respect to each other (intake vs exhaust) without changing the cam. The F head flows far superior to the H series head, it's been proven through flow characteristics. Check out Bisimoto Engineering's F22 N/A SOHC Insight.
@turbohayabusa. I know someone corrected you, but I just had to let you know that you forgot a couple of the letters of the acronym, and they're important ones.
VTEC "V"ariable valve "T"iming and "E"lectronic lift "C"ontrol..... and I would also call a change in lift and duration for better performance a "more aggressive profile"
well generally yes.. h22a is the most popular.. It will not bolt straight in.. you will need to get hasmat motor mounts and either reprogram ur ecu or get a new ecu for this swap and you will want either an h22 or h23 tranny. f22 tranny will bolt up but you'll be at 4500rpms on the highway at 70mph.
Really? I heard with the H22 tranny, you'll be around 4500rpms on the highway at 70mph like you mentioned. It seems like when I'm at 70mph, the RPM is around 3.5K or so. Mine's a JDM H22A w/ F22B 5spd trans.
I know that. I'm just saying. F22 trans have longgg gearings and it doesn't give the H22 its full potential like the H22 trans would. I heard from guys who's been in a complete H22 swap cars said that while I'm at 70mph, the short gearing will be about 4.5K or a little higher if I have a H22 trans.
H22 fits right into the accords, no messing around. also produces 200hp in a car that weighs nothing. It's the ebst engine to swap. Honestly with a H22 you dont really have to go any further because over 200hp in a 2 wheel drive just amkes you spin...
lol wel cause that's a small ass engine to haul a huge car like the accord lol it wouldn't work b20 are more common on swaps with civics or crx and thats' about it with bigger cars you need more power and that's where the h22 roles in lol
If you want full potential, get the M2A4 H22 trans. If you want more fun, go with a Euro R T2T4 LSD trans. Thats what I have and man, it whoop most H22 ludes with basic bolt-ons all day. When I was still F22Bx trans equipped on my H22, my sh!t was slow as f*ck; you don't even know. haha but now I'm happy that I chose that tranny. GL with yours bro.
I got a question for my fellow accordians. There was a little black box on/behind my intake manifold(jdm h22a), my dad broke it while we were putting in the engine(i think its called the iab solenoid). Do i need this box? and if so where could i get a new one?
another question is why have i seen some h22's without this box, and some without(like mine) the MAP sensor on the throttle body?
Thanks in advance.
ps. i have already done days of research before hand
i have a low 14's 94 accord jdm h22a, lsd trans, the black box is powered by vacuum from the manifold also the box has a sensor (iab sensor) all this box does is, it controls a butterfly looking port inside the manifold, while closed engine makes more power before vtec and i believe open it makes power on top
personally id send it back and save for an f20b (type SiR).. if u have the money then go k20a1 (type R) both are dohc vtec. but one is 210hp the other 190hp. i think ur f18 is 150hp but dont quote me on that. also getta new stall converter. on a MT cd5 acceleration is shitty
umm yah, i think the jdm h22 is called the h22a which has atleast 20 more hp than the stock usdm h22a4 - 5th gen or 4th gen vtec, so it makes sense for the accord to beat the prelude.
actually, the h22a that come on preludes 92-96 jdm have 200hp, jst like the h22a4 usdm, but less torque for the American..the h22a that has 220hp, is the 97-2001 prelude type s jdm...the accord jdm type r, i believe has 200hp..not sure though..
question, i have a obd2(96) accord that i am currently swapping the motor from an f22 to h22. do u use the conversion harness to run two ecu's? or do u just use the conversion harness with the obd1 ecu?
Dam i had a accord like that 1 it was a 94 ex and it had a AEM Cold air intake and a sohc v-tec with a wish master exhaust it was sweet and i beat a couple civics and intergras..
i got a 93 accord lx swapped with a F20b vtec motor. thats a JDM 1998 accord type R motor imported from japan so good luck finding it here in the states lol. i walk h22's allday everyday. american muscle cars hate me lol
in the 4 gen were talkin about 18 pounds dif? ain't a whole lot there. accords are better cause they have more room and have a higher comfort level then the lude. hence the reason everyone wants a h22 cord over the prelude
I'm really into Prelude, just love the looks :P, but man my buddies dad has one of those newer accords and holy shiT!!! they pull, imagine if Vtec came out with a Vtec V8 !! LOL!
Let me get in this discussion. I had a clean black 95 accord lx coupe manuel with beautiful OEM honda rims and I loved her. I'm shooting it down to my estranged wife.
I jus got a black 01 prelude sh and I love her too. It's quicker(200 hp vtec compared to 130 nonvtec) and a bit heavier.
My lude isn't a beast of a drag racer, but that's not all that matters. It's fast enough for convenience and goodlookn the gals stare at it.
But I wouldn't be surprised if a beefed up accord took me out.
and an f22b2 is SO MUCH FUCKING WEAKER than h22 vtec engine, which ALL 5th generation preludes have (1997-2001), but you probably don't even know the real model. Preludes were made to be faster sequels to the accord you stupid ass faggot, get with the program. NO ACCORD without vtec will beat a 5th gen prelude you sorry ass faggot!
Vtec ain't magic, just a more aggressive cam profile. SOHC F22A6 with t3/t4 turbo will eat you alive, and those blocks are so damn strong that they take 15psi stock. There are tuned CB7 accords out there with 500WHP on a f22a, so STFU and learn. It is morons like you that the muscle guys laugh at. "OMFGGGG VTAKKK" fucking scrub
lmao umm no...vtec is variable valve timing has nothing to do with having more of an aggressive cam profile sounds like your the moron that everyone laughs a t:)
@turbohayabusa01 VTEC does in fact have to do with a more aggressive cam profile. Engines with VTEC have 2 different sets of cam lobes on the same shaft. When certain criteria are met (RPM, throttle position, engine temperature, & manifold absolute pressure) it uses a solenoid in combination with your oil pressure to move a small piston to link the currently active economy lobes with the inactive performance lobes, and creates a higher lift duration on the intake valves.
@Xtasy604 i would agree but i blew one of thoughs engines @240whp and i was pissed cuz i was sleeved, ported, polished and tuned but best the luck to who ever try's
@donna2cool your H22 is much faster and is capable of much more than the F22. If you are looking for speed then you made the right swap. The F22 however is one of Honda's most reliable motors. It is a beast that wont fail you. but in the end, the H22 is faster in every way.
@krumpinSamoan H22s are good yes...HOWEVER, If you build the F22 ...even with OEM lude parts.. it will be a pretty decent beast. I have a cammed F22A6 that runs with H22 swapped CBs. I wouldn't swap it out for the world. No, Im not faster that H22 swapped CBs....I run with them. That means....the F22 with some work and basic tuning knowledge....F22Ax engines are pretty potent. take a look at mine when you have the time. :)
@krumpinSamoan in some ways. If you're going to be building N/A i'd say grab the H, theres a lot more aftermarket support for the engine. If you're building for boost, tuning a closed deck iron sleeved block is going to cost less and be easier to do.
@twisted62380 Because the H22A breathes alot better. Also sohc vs dohc. Advantages to having a DOHC engine over a SOHC is that the engine has twice as many intake and exhaust valves as a SOHC motor. This makes the engine run cooler and more smoothly, quietly, and efficiently. But the downfall is that DOHC engines cost more for repairs.
@Xtasy604 Did you say " DOHC has twice as many intake and exhaust valves as a SOHC engine " you sir are WRONG. H22 has 16 valves... 2 intake and 2 exhaust... F22Ax SAME... 2 intake.. 2 exhaust PER cylinder...only few things that tears them apart is...DOHC has a cam PER side ( intake cam...exhaust cam ..so they are better for tuning ) ....VTEC and higher compression.. THAT's it. F22Ax engines are STRONG.
Because the H22A breathes alot better. Also sohc vs dohc. Advantages to having a DOHC engine over a SOHC is that the engine has twice as many camshafts to operate the intake and exhaust valves as a SOHC motor. This makes the engine run cooler and more smoothly, quietly, and efficiently. But the downfall is that DOHC engines cost more for repairs.
@krumpinSamoan The F22 has a stronger Bottom...and the F22A6 head flows better. I dont understand why people jump on H22 bandwagons when you can build the F22 to be equally fast if not faster..if you know how what you're doing. I used to have a couple of swapped H22 CBs...bottom ends are inferior...you have to rebuild them. I'd personally would just build on the F22A6 and bolt a LSD H trans to it. A ton of people overlook the potential F22Ax engines have.
@twisted62380 you are somewhat right. you can build an f22 to be faster than a stock h22, but im not sure if you understand entirely. The H22 has 2 cams the f22 has 1. Honda's strongest and most reliable motor is still to this day the F22 but still, the H22 is faster. whats so great about the f22 is its block. its a tank, compared to the h22's block. F series block can hold 20 Psi no problem with a small amount of work, where an H series block would have blown already. Swap H head onto F block.
@krumpinSamoan I understand more than you think. I used have a H22 swapped CB7...LMAO. and I know the underestimated potential the F22 has. Stock vs Stock...no comparison H22 is a more powerful engine....BUT, personally...i'd rather build the F22. ( my personal liking )...I like knowing Im laying some ass whooping down with a worked SOHC. many people won't believe they got schooled by a SOHC. Pure Win in my book.
@Xtasy604 save a ton of money and headache by leaving the h22 alone and build up the f22b2 non vtec, or the A6 if u have a CB7 vtec ex, the non vtec has more torque though
@jstarang1 i see the point about non vtec being better for boost, but i switched my f22b1 vtec for h22a because there is alot more performance options available for the h series, being honest h swap is great, 40% increase of power then f22b1 and tons more upgrades available, they dont make a ton of performance parts for econo cars.
UHH BRO, you're lying. a 97 accord COULD NEVER keep up with a 98 prelude. and its totally not near my car's level, cause mines a 2001 Sh new intake turbo stock tires with 255 hp, it will throw your piece of shit accord off the road. The new 2001 accords are pretty competitive with the 2001 prelude, but i still burn them. BUT DEF NOT THE 97 accord, they suck ass!
I think you're lieing, a 2001 SH with "turbo" with 255 HP? LOL stock is 200, if you really had a turbo lude, it would be way over 255hp. Please child grow up, stop pretending to have such a car. And btw, a 97 Accord SIR will smoke your lude. Lol its lighter and has same HP. If you didn't know already the F series are much stronger engines then H series. The F22s are monsters for boost. No wonder americans laugh at us tuners, cause of fags like you "OMFG VTEC" vtec aint magic.
I'm talking about it in general. The only reasonj you wrote that remark RPPERRY1984 is because you don't have anything else to back-up your pitty accord. Preludes roast accords in their year all the time, thats just how it is. Get used to it buddy.
not all the time my 97accord f22b2 non-vtec can keep up with my friends 98 lude i have i/e and a chipped ecu and only an auto so yeah and the accord coupes are lighter...wait till i do a jdm h22 swap and greddy turbo...yeah
hey bro, the prelude is not an ugly car. it has moer horsepower than the accord, and is actually lighter in weight. faggot asshole. accord is a good racer but the prelude will beat it everytime. guarantee. i just roasteod oa fucking 2000 accord 2 nights ago within the first 40 ft or so.
how about both cars suck for racing. dumasses racing their rice. btw the accord is better than prelude. preludes suck dick there ugly and honda shudnt have ever made that pos car.
umm wow they are NOT the same engine. the accord doesnt have super handling, and has alot less torque. however the accord is an exceptional car, and i do not like it. plz consider what you are saying before you talk. a prelude is stronger than an accord. and im not takling about the ollder ones, im talking about the NEW ONES 2000, or 2001 just like my prelude u idiot. the older preludes weigh LESS than the older accord, hence beffore 97. fucking idiot.
Umm no they are not the same engine..Most accords dont have Vtech, (valve timing), and weigh alot more.. my prelude type sh 01 SMOKED a 2003 v6 honda accord so bad...oh man..even a bigger engine the accord couldnt handle the pain :( haha.
if it was an h22, it might be a bad driver and the extra passenger whos filming. isn't the lude already 200lbs heavier as well? i remember readin thats what makes the swap so ubiquitous is the lighter body of the accord.
not necessarily, if it was from lude then it has 200 ps(197hp) if it was from accord the it has 190ps(187 hp) not only that but it said stock lude and h22 accord they didnt say what all the accord had.
this is a perfectly fair race,accord is h22, but preludes come with H22, they both should be stock, it doesnt make the engine stock if its swapped, i dont know y ppl think that,
L'accord a le meme poid (environ), coté moteur, h22a du japon avec l'intake,la ligne au complet et transmission LSD ce qui aide beaucoup au départ. sinon sur la grand route on ce tiens pomal.
Love my accord. Honda or GTFO.
gamerx262x262x 3 days ago
hel yah...i use to own an 95 f22 acc0rd coupe..n it use to smash on fools..im thinkn of going bak to one..but f I do , ima go g series..frankienstn boii....:)
AZfastlife 1 week ago
Gotta love them accords
Cb7
JDMBudRick 2 months ago 3
I used to spank peoples asses in my 95 accord and that was a non-vtec 2.2, don't underestimate those accords, they can flat out move.
corning1 4 months ago
f22 has lower compression and the sleeves are different. h22 is high compression and the FRM sleeves cant handle more then 7 psi unless you want to blowup
JustBlaz3z 4 months ago
@JustBlaz3z f22 sleeves are iron and i have seen stock f22a1s run 12 psi comfortably. all about how you drive.
ModestDown 4 months ago
@ModestDown
yup. if i ever blow my h22a im going h22/f22 build ;]
JustBlaz3z 4 months ago
@JustBlaz3z dude franken the bitch.. the h and f blocks are very very similar soo just get an h series head.. mad mighty g series :o
ModestDown 4 months ago
@ModestDown
i got h22a rite now. iwould go with g series but its not as long lasting as other combos. i'm probably just going resleeve to boost with low comp pistons n forged rods n skunk 2 turbo cam
JustBlaz3z 4 months ago
@JustBlaz3z go high comp turbo on e85 bisimoto.. everything.
ModestDown 4 months ago
@JustBlaz3z IF you are gonna go that path use a toda cam. they are $500 more brand new than the skun2 camshaft but well, well worth it when it comes to power.
hekkamekka 1 month ago
I have a cd5-96 accord 4 Dr with a h22a conversion(red top) and I'm doing 13's in a 1/4 mile check it out chris's accord sir and tell me what Yall think
link4eva10 6 months ago
F22 has a better flowing head and is better for turbo. The H22 IS technically faster and has shorter gears. But once ur in 5th it's acceleration and top speed aren't that great. But in a 1/4 mile u should be hitting 5th w/o red lining it. An h23 would be better for a bit longer gears and a turbo charger.
Wickit96 6 months ago
oh shit this is what im gonna get fo sho! and im do a h22 swap with vtec and supercharger omg i cant!
KUSHaPOTamus420 6 months ago
@KUSHaPOTamus420
why would you supercharge a H22? Why not turbo a f22 instead?
Delirium1712 6 months ago
@Delirium1712 ??? Why would you boost an F22 over an H22????
dirtbikemike69 5 months ago
hondas are gay.
morenomax 7 months ago
@morenomax i can tell your like 10 years old using your moms computer talkin shit its funny.
krazyA916 7 months ago
@morenomax why
adiosk8rdude2 6 months ago
@morenomax than why watch a honda video you fucking faggot
prosurfer2222 5 months ago
completly correct cb7poet!!! (: VTEC & DOHC is EXTREMLY EXTREMLY overrated! im a non- vtec, SOHC guy :) but it all depends on what you want as well...
chrisair2112 9 months ago
VTEC and DOHC are both over-rated. VTEC is great for fuel economy (as opposed to just running a non-VTEC cam with big lobes all the time) And the only advantage to DOHC is to change the valve timing in respect to each other (intake vs exhaust) without changing the cam. The F head flows far superior to the H series head, it's been proven through flow characteristics. Check out Bisimoto Engineering's F22 N/A SOHC Insight.
cb7poet 9 months ago
The way the CD5 Accord pulled on this Prelude makes it look like the Lude only has an H23A1.
nusdogg 1 year ago
@turbohayabusa. I know someone corrected you, but I just had to let you know that you forgot a couple of the letters of the acronym, and they're important ones.
VTEC "V"ariable valve "T"iming and "E"lectronic lift "C"ontrol..... and I would also call a change in lift and duration for better performance a "more aggressive profile"
maddmatt02 1 year ago
can a stock 1999 accord V6-L beat a stock 1999 prelude vti-r?
2buck4dH8rz 1 year ago
SUPERaccord
storyb23 1 year ago
@halo3Xfan56 nice man. is it a nice swap?
northside420 1 year ago
all the ludes needs is a quick 200 pounds weight reduction and a full exhaust system to make the race fair
carverson315 1 year ago
Damn that prelude got his ass spanked by that Accord
BlazinAccord96 2 years ago 3
of course... accords are lighter than preludes and it had the jdm motor
lightning12221 2 years ago
nice vid check out my vid i have an F22 vtec with an F22 tranny (stock except catback) and im at 3K rpm doing 65
94HondaaccordVtec 2 years ago
we have a torque
d4v3z 2 years ago
YO misapetu dats an fast ass accord wat u got in da engine or wat type engine u have
lonnie8907 2 years ago
Its an H22, Same engine that the prelude has
xxGriffonxx 2 years ago
dats fucker running so watz da different between h22 an f22
lonnie8907 2 years ago
h22 is higher compression Dohc 200hp hseries motors found in preludes. F22's or low compression sohc 115-145hp f seriees found in 90-2000 accords.
xxGriffonxx 2 years ago
thanks alot but rite now i need a engine for my 95 accord i cud order any purlude engine 2 put in my car ???
lonnie8907 2 years ago
well generally yes.. h22a is the most popular.. It will not bolt straight in.. you will need to get hasmat motor mounts and either reprogram ur ecu or get a new ecu for this swap and you will want either an h22 or h23 tranny. f22 tranny will bolt up but you'll be at 4500rpms on the highway at 70mph.
xxGriffonxx 2 years ago
Really? I heard with the H22 tranny, you'll be around 4500rpms on the highway at 70mph like you mentioned. It seems like when I'm at 70mph, the RPM is around 3.5K or so. Mine's a JDM H22A w/ F22B 5spd trans.
nusdogg 2 years ago
the h22 tranny is meant for the h22 so why would u be at 4500 rpm at 70mph . i have an f22b1 stock and im at 3.5k at about 90
xxGriffonxx 2 years ago
I know that. I'm just saying. F22 trans have longgg gearings and it doesn't give the H22 its full potential like the H22 trans would. I heard from guys who's been in a complete H22 swap cars said that while I'm at 70mph, the short gearing will be about 4.5K or a little higher if I have a H22 trans.
nusdogg 2 years ago
tru but if i get da h22 tranny with da h22 engine she will run better an faster with da h22engine an f22 tranny ?
lonnie8907 2 years ago
I would think with the f22 tranny acceleration would be quicker but you would be sacrificing your top speed.
xxGriffonxx 2 years ago
H22 tranny you'll run more accelleration, if you keep the F22 tranny you can do some pretty sick high way pull-a-ways...
Tupacalypse87 2 years ago
im not an expert on hondas, but y dont u get a B20 vtec?
chevystud88 2 years ago
H22 fits right into the accords, no messing around. also produces 200hp in a car that weighs nothing. It's the ebst engine to swap. Honestly with a H22 you dont really have to go any further because over 200hp in a 2 wheel drive just amkes you spin...
Tupacalypse87 2 years ago
Oh, don't forget that there's a 15% drivetrain loss to the wheel as well.
nusdogg 2 years ago
lol wel cause that's a small ass engine to haul a huge car like the accord lol it wouldn't work b20 are more common on swaps with civics or crx and thats' about it with bigger cars you need more power and that's where the h22 roles in lol
or you can stick in with the J series :(
Arrelevant69er 2 years ago
Cause a B20 VTEC motor doesn't have enough torque like 2.2L F22 & H22/2.3L H23 to pull a heavy Accord or Prelude.
No replacement for displacement.
nusdogg 2 years ago 2
ah i see now.
chevystud88 2 years ago
i think ill keep my f22 tranny den
lonnie8907 2 years ago
If you want full potential, get the M2A4 H22 trans. If you want more fun, go with a Euro R T2T4 LSD trans. Thats what I have and man, it whoop most H22 ludes with basic bolt-ons all day. When I was still F22Bx trans equipped on my H22, my sh!t was slow as f*ck; you don't even know. haha but now I'm happy that I chose that tranny. GL with yours bro.
nusdogg 2 years ago
dis mite be a stupid question i askin but u tink if i need my f22 tranny an change it 2 a h22 tranny with my f22 block will der be any different
lonnie8907 2 years ago
Yes, it'll have shorter gearings; I mean, wayy shorter. Faster acceleration! Trust me.
nusdogg 2 years ago
ya like nusdogg said u'll fukin rip it, makes a sick difference.
Tupacalypse87 2 years ago
I got a question for my fellow accordians. There was a little black box on/behind my intake manifold(jdm h22a), my dad broke it while we were putting in the engine(i think its called the iab solenoid). Do i need this box? and if so where could i get a new one?
another question is why have i seen some h22's without this box, and some without(like mine) the MAP sensor on the throttle body?
Thanks in advance.
ps. i have already done days of research before hand
richie2nice 2 years ago
i got the same problum im tryin get hold of honda to find out about this box !
kk3633 2 years ago
i have a low 14's 94 accord jdm h22a, lsd trans, the black box is powered by vacuum from the manifold also the box has a sensor (iab sensor) all this box does is, it controls a butterfly looking port inside the manifold, while closed engine makes more power before vtec and i believe open it makes power on top
ray1000000 2 years ago
damn that accord is pretty fast is it the jdm h22?
541BOI 2 years ago
He mentioned it that its an H22A4 from the 97-01 USDM Lude.
nusdogg 2 years ago
yo i jus buy 2000 f18b 4 my 95 accord wit my 2.2 intake wat u tink fater or slower
lonnie8907 1 year ago
personally id send it back and save for an f20b (type SiR).. if u have the money then go k20a1 (type R) both are dohc vtec. but one is 210hp the other 190hp. i think ur f18 is 150hp but dont quote me on that. also getta new stall converter. on a MT cd5 acceleration is shitty
CH33Z3B4LL3R 1 year ago
@lonnie8907
I'm not sure either. The F18B are slower than a H22A for sure.
nusdogg 1 year ago
wat u tink will be da best ting to do ta make it really fast
lonnie8907 1 year ago
faster or slower
lonnie8907 1 year ago
this must be an f22/h23 engine non vtec on the prelude...cus if it had the h22a, it slaughter that accord from start to finish...
AbrahamLopezSJ 2 years ago
umm yah, i think the jdm h22 is called the h22a which has atleast 20 more hp than the stock usdm h22a4 - 5th gen or 4th gen vtec, so it makes sense for the accord to beat the prelude.
anirban0 2 years ago
actually, the h22a that come on preludes 92-96 jdm have 200hp, jst like the h22a4 usdm, but less torque for the American..the h22a that has 220hp, is the 97-2001 prelude type s jdm...the accord jdm type r, i believe has 200hp..not sure though..
AbrahamLopezSJ 2 years ago
yah true... accords are iron sleds...
bl3nd0r 2 years ago
L'accord était a mon cousin, cé tu toi qui la acheté?
misapetu 2 years ago
question, i have a obd2(96) accord that i am currently swapping the motor from an f22 to h22. do u use the conversion harness to run two ecu's? or do u just use the conversion harness with the obd1 ecu?
please help im putting the motor in-in two weeks.
richie2nice 2 years ago
Let me guess, 15 seconds for the Prelude and 14 for the Accord?
MrCarsandguitars 2 years ago
Dam i had a accord like that 1 it was a 94 ex and it had a AEM Cold air intake and a sohc v-tec with a wish master exhaust it was sweet and i beat a couple civics and intergras..
ChrisQuinteroQ 2 years ago
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is it possible to put an obd1 h22 in a 96 accord?
someone told me that in 96 they changed to obd2.
but i thought it would not matter because its a COMPLETE swap.
please someone help.
richie2nice 2 years ago
c ou ste pist la ?
lilgiant56 2 years ago
cé a st eustache a l'autodrome
Martineau328i 2 years ago
prelude 4ever
smfiou 2 years ago
nice bruthas!
1minitoy 3 years ago
i got a 93 accord lx swapped with a F20b vtec motor. thats a JDM 1998 accord type R motor imported from japan so good luck finding it here in the states lol. i walk h22's allday everyday. american muscle cars hate me lol
TitoCB7 3 years ago
stfu.. please
TheNewNine 2 years ago
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these cars are for FAGGOTS. grow some balls and drive NSX's and Corvettes.
noshabibis 3 years ago
NSX yeah bad ass but a corvette is for old retired men hahaha
gtr3cords 3 years ago
fuck youuuuuu
qpzmak 2 years ago
its the truth look at any vette out there its always old men with their wives
gtr3cords 2 years ago 2
haha yeah its true sucks corvettes are awesome though
qpzmak 2 years ago 2
in the 4 gen were talkin about 18 pounds dif? ain't a whole lot there. accords are better cause they have more room and have a higher comfort level then the lude. hence the reason everyone wants a h22 cord over the prelude
chillin943 3 years ago
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h22 accord > h22 prelude. nuff said
DragAccord 3 years ago
dats an h22 dohc vtec. he swaped that weak ass stock engine fo it
northside420 3 years ago
Ha Ha i love all this mad technical shit? I think it was an SiR Accord,
fuckoffokfucker 3 years ago
where is this place? I've seen so many drag vids on youtube with that same guy's voice. "blahblahblahblah....One Two Three GO!"
videouploaderguy12 3 years ago
its sanair
alexjones03 3 years ago
st-eustache in canada, french ppl like me
BurtonSteezy 3 years ago 3
That must have either been an H23 Prelude, or a B20 3rd Gen, cuz there is no way a heavy ass 4 door accord pulls on an H22 Prelude like that.
RedLudeBB1 3 years ago
you're wrong,
Prelude 4th gen curb weight:2840lbs
Prelude 5th gen curb weight:3042lbs
Accord 4th gen curb weight: 2822lbs
Accord 5th gen curb weight: 2855lbs
So generation for generation....the accord is lighter...so don't even.
Math says it all: lighter car+same hp >heavier car+same hp.
Xtasy604 3 years ago 3
Oh damn, I thought our 5th Gen Accords are like around 3G's near 4G's.
nusdogg 2 years ago
which is faster stock a 99-01 prelude or a 03 v6 Accord?
Glycezin 3 years ago
Easy, the Prelude is faster... in reply to Glycezin post.
RedLudeBB1 3 years ago
thanks man.. I thinking of buying one after January:D
Glycezin 3 years ago
Are you kidding me? If its a 03 240hp 6 speed Accord it will eat any lude for breakfast lunch and dinner.
Addicted2VTEC 3 years ago
I'm really into Prelude, just love the looks :P, but man my buddies dad has one of those newer accords and holy shiT!!! they pull, imagine if Vtec came out with a Vtec V8 !! LOL!
LyricalQuickblade 3 years ago
honda indy cars have v8 vtec have like 1000hp
euroraccord 3 years ago
its will be problems
lonnie8907 2 years ago
u fuckin rite
lonnie8907 2 years ago
Let me get in this discussion. I had a clean black 95 accord lx coupe manuel with beautiful OEM honda rims and I loved her. I'm shooting it down to my estranged wife.
I jus got a black 01 prelude sh and I love her too. It's quicker(200 hp vtec compared to 130 nonvtec) and a bit heavier.
My lude isn't a beast of a drag racer, but that's not all that matters. It's fast enough for convenience and goodlookn the gals stare at it.
But I wouldn't be surprised if a beefed up accord took me out.
HONDA!
Yankees0777 3 years ago
and an f22b2 is SO MUCH FUCKING WEAKER than h22 vtec engine, which ALL 5th generation preludes have (1997-2001), but you probably don't even know the real model. Preludes were made to be faster sequels to the accord you stupid ass faggot, get with the program. NO ACCORD without vtec will beat a 5th gen prelude you sorry ass faggot!
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
Vtec ain't magic, just a more aggressive cam profile. SOHC F22A6 with t3/t4 turbo will eat you alive, and those blocks are so damn strong that they take 15psi stock. There are tuned CB7 accords out there with 500WHP on a f22a, so STFU and learn. It is morons like you that the muscle guys laugh at. "OMFGGGG VTAKKK" fucking scrub
Xtasy604 3 years ago 17
@Xtasy604 DIS BE TRU MON !!
but i love my h22 (8200 rpm's of fury !) ...still have the stock f22 for the bossted afterlife though, lol !!
TrustworthyMtgGuy 1 year ago
@Xtasy604
lmao umm no...vtec is variable valve timing has nothing to do with having more of an aggressive cam profile sounds like your the moron that everyone laughs a t:)
turbohayabusa01 1 year ago
@turbohayabusa01 VTEC does in fact have to do with a more aggressive cam profile. Engines with VTEC have 2 different sets of cam lobes on the same shaft. When certain criteria are met (RPM, throttle position, engine temperature, & manifold absolute pressure) it uses a solenoid in combination with your oil pressure to move a small piston to link the currently active economy lobes with the inactive performance lobes, and creates a higher lift duration on the intake valves.
fretwizard420 1 year ago 7
@fretwizard420 thanx for not sounding like a dumb ass on here lol
downeybusiness 1 year ago
@fretwizard420 don t get it much but u sound smart
183guti 6 months ago
@turbohayabusa01 wah VVT is a poor mans VTEC
jamieboi69 1 year ago
@Xtasy604 i would agree but i blew one of thoughs engines @240whp and i was pissed cuz i was sleeved, ported, polished and tuned but best the luck to who ever try's
honda30369 1 year ago
@Xtasy604 hmmm i wish i knew this before i swaped my F22A6 for an H22A but oh well it will be in anouther accord soon :)
donna2cool 1 year ago
@donna2cool your H22 is much faster and is capable of much more than the F22. If you are looking for speed then you made the right swap. The F22 however is one of Honda's most reliable motors. It is a beast that wont fail you. but in the end, the H22 is faster in every way.
krumpinSamoan 10 months ago
@krumpinSamoan H22s are good yes...HOWEVER, If you build the F22 ...even with OEM lude parts.. it will be a pretty decent beast. I have a cammed F22A6 that runs with H22 swapped CBs. I wouldn't swap it out for the world. No, Im not faster that H22 swapped CBs....I run with them. That means....the F22 with some work and basic tuning knowledge....F22Ax engines are pretty potent. take a look at mine when you have the time. :)
twisted62380 9 months ago
@Xtasy604 so are you saying that the f22 is better than the h22?
krumpinSamoan 1 year ago
@krumpinSamoan in some ways. If you're going to be building N/A i'd say grab the H, theres a lot more aftermarket support for the engine. If you're building for boost, tuning a closed deck iron sleeved block is going to cost less and be easier to do.
Xtasy604 10 months ago
@Xtasy604 you speak the truth...but why swap out the F22Ax when they are strong engines to begin with. Just build it.
twisted62380 9 months ago
@twisted62380 Because the H22A breathes alot better. Also sohc vs dohc. Advantages to having a DOHC engine over a SOHC is that the engine has twice as many intake and exhaust valves as a SOHC motor. This makes the engine run cooler and more smoothly, quietly, and efficiently. But the downfall is that DOHC engines cost more for repairs.
Xtasy604 9 months ago
@Xtasy604 Did you say " DOHC has twice as many intake and exhaust valves as a SOHC engine " you sir are WRONG. H22 has 16 valves... 2 intake and 2 exhaust... F22Ax SAME... 2 intake.. 2 exhaust PER cylinder...only few things that tears them apart is...DOHC has a cam PER side ( intake cam...exhaust cam ..so they are better for tuning ) ....VTEC and higher compression.. THAT's it. F22Ax engines are STRONG.
twisted62380 9 months ago
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@twisted62380 Sorry what i meant to say was:
Because the H22A breathes alot better. Also sohc vs dohc. Advantages to having a DOHC engine over a SOHC is that the engine has twice as many camshafts to operate the intake and exhaust valves as a SOHC motor. This makes the engine run cooler and more smoothly, quietly, and efficiently. But the downfall is that DOHC engines cost more for repairs.
Xtasy604 9 months ago
@krumpinSamoan The F22 has a stronger Bottom...and the F22A6 head flows better. I dont understand why people jump on H22 bandwagons when you can build the F22 to be equally fast if not faster..if you know how what you're doing. I used to have a couple of swapped H22 CBs...bottom ends are inferior...you have to rebuild them. I'd personally would just build on the F22A6 and bolt a LSD H trans to it. A ton of people overlook the potential F22Ax engines have.
twisted62380 9 months ago
@twisted62380 you are somewhat right. you can build an f22 to be faster than a stock h22, but im not sure if you understand entirely. The H22 has 2 cams the f22 has 1. Honda's strongest and most reliable motor is still to this day the F22 but still, the H22 is faster. whats so great about the f22 is its block. its a tank, compared to the h22's block. F series block can hold 20 Psi no problem with a small amount of work, where an H series block would have blown already. Swap H head onto F block.
krumpinSamoan 9 months ago
@krumpinSamoan I understand more than you think. I used have a H22 swapped CB7...LMAO. and I know the underestimated potential the F22 has. Stock vs Stock...no comparison H22 is a more powerful engine....BUT, personally...i'd rather build the F22. ( my personal liking )...I like knowing Im laying some ass whooping down with a worked SOHC. many people won't believe they got schooled by a SOHC. Pure Win in my book.
twisted62380 9 months ago
@twisted62380 then yes I would have to agree with you. haha
krumpinSamoan 9 months ago
@Xtasy604 save a ton of money and headache by leaving the h22 alone and build up the f22b2 non vtec, or the A6 if u have a CB7 vtec ex, the non vtec has more torque though
jstarang1 10 months ago
@jstarang1 i see the point about non vtec being better for boost, but i switched my f22b1 vtec for h22a because there is alot more performance options available for the h series, being honest h swap is great, 40% increase of power then f22b1 and tons more upgrades available, they dont make a ton of performance parts for econo cars.
jamesJulian1 9 months ago
@Xtasy604 for a 2 year old comment....it still speaks the truth. ( thumbs up )
twisted62380 9 months ago
An accord with turbo can keep up with a 5th gen prelude. Use your imagination.
imsoohoo 3 years ago
UHH BRO, you're lying. a 97 accord COULD NEVER keep up with a 98 prelude. and its totally not near my car's level, cause mines a 2001 Sh new intake turbo stock tires with 255 hp, it will throw your piece of shit accord off the road. The new 2001 accords are pretty competitive with the 2001 prelude, but i still burn them. BUT DEF NOT THE 97 accord, they suck ass!
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
I think you're lieing, a 2001 SH with "turbo" with 255 HP? LOL stock is 200, if you really had a turbo lude, it would be way over 255hp. Please child grow up, stop pretending to have such a car. And btw, a 97 Accord SIR will smoke your lude. Lol its lighter and has same HP. If you didn't know already the F series are much stronger engines then H series. The F22s are monsters for boost. No wonder americans laugh at us tuners, cause of fags like you "OMFG VTEC" vtec aint magic.
Xtasy604 3 years ago 3
And learn to spell idiot, It's "handling", not handleing. I'm not even a cheese-burger american and i know that. Stupid redneck american.
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
I'm talking about it in general. The only reasonj you wrote that remark RPPERRY1984 is because you don't have anything else to back-up your pitty accord. Preludes roast accords in their year all the time, thats just how it is. Get used to it buddy.
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
not in this race.....idk about any other time
elberdugo001 3 years ago
not all the time my 97accord f22b2 non-vtec can keep up with my friends 98 lude i have i/e and a chipped ecu and only an auto so yeah and the accord coupes are lighter...wait till i do a jdm h22 swap and greddy turbo...yeah
tsphantom09 3 years ago
hey bro, the prelude is not an ugly car. it has moer horsepower than the accord, and is actually lighter in weight. faggot asshole. accord is a good racer but the prelude will beat it everytime. guarantee. i just roasteod oa fucking 2000 accord 2 nights ago within the first 40 ft or so.
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
Btw, 92 Prelude Si had less HP than 92 Accord EX-R and was heavier.
Xtasy604 3 years ago
how about both cars suck for racing. dumasses racing their rice. btw the accord is better than prelude. preludes suck dick there ugly and honda shudnt have ever made that pos car.
rayzor1985 3 years ago
umm wow they are NOT the same engine. the accord doesnt have super handling, and has alot less torque. however the accord is an exceptional car, and i do not like it. plz consider what you are saying before you talk. a prelude is stronger than an accord. and im not takling about the ollder ones, im talking about the NEW ONES 2000, or 2001 just like my prelude u idiot. the older preludes weigh LESS than the older accord, hence beffore 97. fucking idiot.
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
..since when does handleing affect racing in a straight line??? think about it
RPPerry1984 3 years ago
Umm no they are not the same engine..Most accords dont have Vtech, (valve timing), and weigh alot more.. my prelude type sh 01 SMOKED a 2003 v6 honda accord so bad...oh man..even a bigger engine the accord couldnt handle the pain :( haha.
piotrekzdunek777 3 years ago
older accords(97 and under) are at least 200lbs lighter than the 97-01 preludes and if the accord has an h22 than its the same motor
WIGTRON5000 3 years ago
That accord looked exactly like my old h22a accord, just on the ex wheels. Weighed 2800 lbs with full interior.
gibbletz 3 years ago
if it was an h22, it might be a bad driver and the extra passenger whos filming. isn't the lude already 200lbs heavier as well? i remember readin thats what makes the swap so ubiquitous is the lighter body of the accord.
jayrq2o1 3 years ago
damn that shit is gonee!!! LOLLL
IgnorantKid 3 years ago
i doubt thats an h22 prelude
WIGTRON5000 3 years ago
en el culo le metio el dedo jajajaja that`s my car jajaja
didirecord 3 years ago 2
damm nice shifting
hondab18a1 3 years ago
autodrome st-theu
sexayme88 3 years ago
ouai
misapetu 3 years ago
prelude and accord are almost the same car engine wise u can swap easy
thatguyyouknow13 3 years ago
Damn that foo can drive!
benjerman112 3 years ago
bet the lude was stock sohc.
toXicKnowLedGe 3 years ago
sounded nice as shit
Popachoppacity 3 years ago 3
how do we know for sure if it really was a Lude????LOL
Jayenom 3 years ago
was the prelude USDM? and accord JDM H22??? if so accord had like 10 more horses.
JDMpower21 3 years ago
not necessarily, if it was from lude then it has 200 ps(197hp) if it was from accord the it has 190ps(187 hp) not only that but it said stock lude and h22 accord they didnt say what all the accord had.
slammed4thgen 3 years ago
i gotta hurry up n swap out this f22b2...that was hot like fire
marc2583 3 years ago
ahahah accord 1 prelude 0 nice a cette été =)
born4races 3 years ago
that accord sounds just a little modified, enough to beat the lude
uniquezter 4 years ago
accord has a lighter chassis that's why it's faster.
sinisyko 4 years ago
nice accord
euroraccord 4 years ago
a h22 accord is better than a stock prelude thought and aparently faster
d15civic 4 years ago
this is a perfectly fair race,accord is h22, but preludes come with H22, they both should be stock, it doesnt make the engine stock if its swapped, i dont know y ppl think that,
"OOOHHH, itS an H22A accord vs a Stock prelude"
in that case they are both equal!!!!!
smha95 4 years ago
accord probably had some a sport clutch or some minor work done
marc2583 4 years ago
some sport clutch lmao
takes more than that bud
and that body accord probably weighs pretty close to what the lude weighs
that accord sounded like i/h/e only. nothing big going on there
slammed4thgen 3 years ago
départ raté t sur ? moi jpense plus que c pcq c une accord :P
lebguy4ever 4 years ago
L'accord a le meme poid (environ), coté moteur, h22a du japon avec l'intake,la ligne au complet et transmission LSD ce qui aide beaucoup au départ. sinon sur la grand route on ce tiens pomal.
misapetu 4 years ago
arraché par la accord hein.. !
lebguy4ever 4 years ago
départ raté de la prelude mais il prend l'avant parail.
misapetu 4 years ago
Héhé, très bien le vidéo. Est-ce que tu sais combien il fait su le 1/ de mille, le gars avec la accord?
frankaccord 4 years ago