@rangere3rd im not saying you are lieing, but those numbers seem a bit high. The ls1's came with 345-350 horse at the crank and the highest i have heard a completely stock ls1 put to the wheels is 330. It just doesnt seem likely that they would gain 30 rwhp with just electric waterpump.
not saying your wrong or lieing but you also got to look at there milage and dirty engines and alot of other things, gm high performance tested this last year they took 3 LS1's one from a vette one from a Trans am ws6 and one from a camaro ss and all three rean between 345 to 355 rwhp stock tunes and everything the only thing they did different was the put on electric water pumps
Not to sound cocky but I have also gone up againsts some really well built and tuned ls1's and they made me look like a bitch it was basically taking a geo against a lambo....
I have an 03 mach 1 with minor bolt ons plus RAI x-pipe mufflers suspension gears and a tune and she is 337rwhp and I can put a stock z-28 ls1 behind me in a 1/4 but anything outside the 1/4 its game over for me those ls1 motors really come alive in the higher rpm
@08candyzx6r seems a little high for just minor bolt ons..buddies 99' cobra with just about everything done to it as far as bolt ons just made between 300-310 rwhp; not sure on exact but just saying.
@08candyzx6r I know what you mean, I just upgraded from a 2000 mustang v6 to a 2002 camaro SS, anything above 2500-3000 rpm and I have power on command. With the 6 speed it makes the top end past the 1/4 pretty damn fast. The mach 1 is a great car stock for stock against the LS1 though. I'd actually prefer a mach 1 over a 99 or 01 cobra.
Wow, Internet Rambo, didnt mean to piss in your Cheerios. If you had paid any attention to anything, you would know that the Ls1 is a superior motor to the Lt1. 5.7 dont mean jack as the 5.7 has been around for decades. I mean an L98 is a 5.7 but they dont seem to be taking newer mustangs stock to stock.
i bet that mach 1 loss gear in first race to be laggin that far back but mods to mach 1 cant be a shaker hood because lol that comes on ALL machs not a mod there and a short shifter dnt had horsepower
mustangs are for bitches... (im not saying that this one isnt allright) im saying it really was made for females
get a 5.0 HO, mustang guys, or else ur driving a car that was made for a women + the old 5.0's are the fastest anyways. i never see a dude ina mustang jus cute chicks lol
@Texarmageddon heh, idk y i have to talk shit, thats not me, if sombody likes a paticular car, so wat, who am i to say thats all shity an stuff, like ford an chevy fans arguing, like shouldnt we all jus get along, we share the same thing in common, we both like muscle cars an street racing, ther both cars an one doesnt pown the other, its all the condition of the vehicle, bolt ons, an driver skill (for manuals), if u want to compare u need to look at base hp, which the firebird takes it (:
@Texarmageddon lol yea wth how did i forget that one, like the main thing too, cuz i konw the mustang would weigh less, ...i havent drank anything for awhile so im buzzin good
if i had a mach 1 i would invest in a tranny swap and get a 6-speed so you can get better acceleration without losing top end and it would be more fair too since trans am and ss are 6-speeds
The T/A had to have more the exhaust and a tune to walk a Mach 1 that hard. Mach 1s are low 13s cars. That was a murder. Is it full exhaust? Either way good kill.
okay, nice vid 'n all but the mustang driver sucked, lol. (or the T/a had been souped up a lot. 0-60 for mach 1, 5.1 average, (manual). 0-60 T/a, 6.o (manual). 1/4 times are both (about) 13.2ish.
That "rustang" is a Mach 1, meaning it has a 4V engine, meaning they run low 13s stock. You're confusing Machs with GTs. They are totally different machines.
You sure that 12.7 TA wasn't on drag radials? I can see a 12.7 on tires. I've had 2 ls1 Z28s and an 04 GTO, so I'm no stranger to LS1 capability. I'm not arguing that the LS1 doesn't have the edge, but 9/10 times, its a drivers race between a Mach and any LS1 F-body.
@Mach1Spd my cousin says those new GTO's are front wheel drive, so im jus going to ask somone allready... is it really? an i thought they wer LS2 cuz the 6.0l, well leme know thx
@SKitles888 No sir. They are rear wheel drive my friend. The 04 GTOs have the same 350 HP LS1 engine as the C5 Corvettes, and the same automatic 4l60e, or manual T-56 as those Vettes. The 05-06 GTOs have the same 400 HP LS2 that some of the C6 Vettes came with, but still have the same 4L60 and T-56 transmissions.
@Mach1Spd lol yea write after i posted that, im like this is youtube, so i typed in 05 gto burnout, i know they got the same motor an tranny as corvettes, but vettes have that wicked intake manifold, thats pretty cool the gto is like a camaro or firebird, my 95 formula has a t-56 tranny (:
@Mach1Spd not to argue and shit but the LS2 is rated at 375RWHP not 400 the stock LS1's made 415 to the crank and made 355 to the wheels the LS2 made 435 to the crank and 375RWHP the LS3 made 460
nice vid, not a bad race, but 5.7L LT1 vs a 4.6 Ford Motor really isnt too much of a race IMO (both cars have potential but the TA has a stronger base to build up from, not saying the stang cant get it don, but if both are bolt on b*tches, the TA should win everytime)
@unrealfor rustangs r 4 inbred fag wanab hillbilys....fukin things r square and over weiaght underpowerd junk...................you cant hold a candle to a nasty bird or a mean camaro...and you got a mullet joe dirt
@unrealford why do ppl hate on the firebirds like that, lol guess its kinda funny, but i see so many god dam camaros its not funny, firebirds F-body has way more curves than any same year of camaro, go to my chan. an look at my 95 formula, its white so it would be the mullet mobile if any, but with the big stripe down the center an the ram air... it looks better than any other 90's firebird i ever seen, an i dont think i wiil ever see one that looks better...
@killswitchracing nah I have a mach 1, if anything the shaker slows it down. It's extra weight + the air hits too many walls before it goes to the TB. That's why most mach 1's get a aftermarket CAI that mixes with the ram air and has a open box where the air filter sits. So that the air coming from the headlight and grill does most of the work while the ram air is just a +.
@GATOWater I would never use a CAI.. RAI with a cutout in the air box for the shaker feeder for sure. the intake tube from the MAF to the TB is total shit in the Mach 1s Mine is going bye bye in the spring. If you do a good pull then get out and grab the tube from the shaker, its cold. Its definitely piping a lot of cold air into the air box for sure. Its not a big differnece but i wouldnt say it hurts. Plus, Its Fucking Cool... I love watching it move around in the hood on the road.
@cooldbz12 oh hell yea, shaker hood is so fake so for looks, the ram air is forced induction which is better than cold air, stick ur hand out ur window next time ur doin 100, thats some forced induction, i actually think it is the single most best way to have any cars aircleaner hooked up, thru the hood like that, does seem to get alittle warm in stop an go taxi traffic tho
@killswitchracing not tryna knock the t/a(it was a good run for it) but it had just exhaust at the time and it murdered the mach like that? that should still be a drivers race as far as machs and t/a's go.
@rangere3rd im not saying you are lieing, but those numbers seem a bit high. The ls1's came with 345-350 horse at the crank and the highest i have heard a completely stock ls1 put to the wheels is 330. It just doesnt seem likely that they would gain 30 rwhp with just electric waterpump.
shoppy16 2 months ago
not saying your wrong or lieing but you also got to look at there milage and dirty engines and alot of other things, gm high performance tested this last year they took 3 LS1's one from a vette one from a Trans am ws6 and one from a camaro ss and all three rean between 345 to 355 rwhp stock tunes and everything the only thing they did different was the put on electric water pumps
rangere3rd 4 months ago
Not to sound cocky but I have also gone up againsts some really well built and tuned ls1's and they made me look like a bitch it was basically taking a geo against a lambo....
08candyzx6r 4 months ago
I have an 03 mach 1 with minor bolt ons plus RAI x-pipe mufflers suspension gears and a tune and she is 337rwhp and I can put a stock z-28 ls1 behind me in a 1/4 but anything outside the 1/4 its game over for me those ls1 motors really come alive in the higher rpm
08candyzx6r 4 months ago
@08candyzx6r seems a little high for just minor bolt ons..buddies 99' cobra with just about everything done to it as far as bolt ons just made between 300-310 rwhp; not sure on exact but just saying.
jpitcherwhite346 3 months ago
@08candyzx6r I know what you mean, I just upgraded from a 2000 mustang v6 to a 2002 camaro SS, anything above 2500-3000 rpm and I have power on command. With the 6 speed it makes the top end past the 1/4 pretty damn fast. The mach 1 is a great car stock for stock against the LS1 though. I'd actually prefer a mach 1 over a 99 or 01 cobra.
Chris02LS1ss 3 months ago
There's no way that shit happens, what toes the ta have done to it?
SIKMACH1 5 months ago
Your gay as sht bc u keep racing against stock cars.
joshlink360 8 months ago
Wow, Internet Rambo, didnt mean to piss in your Cheerios. If you had paid any attention to anything, you would know that the Ls1 is a superior motor to the Lt1. 5.7 dont mean jack as the 5.7 has been around for decades. I mean an L98 is a 5.7 but they dont seem to be taking newer mustangs stock to stock.
Locruid 11 months ago
i bet that mach 1 loss gear in first race to be laggin that far back but mods to mach 1 cant be a shaker hood because lol that comes on ALL machs not a mod there and a short shifter dnt had horsepower
turbo98gt 11 months ago
damn that was an ass whoopin
willymywonka 1 year ago
ahahhahaaa.... FUCK FORD
mustangs are for bitches... (im not saying that this one isnt allright) im saying it really was made for females
get a 5.0 HO, mustang guys, or else ur driving a car that was made for a women + the old 5.0's are the fastest anyways. i never see a dude ina mustang jus cute chicks lol
SKitles888 1 year ago
@SKitles888 Yeah you're right, but i bet you its either a v6 or their boyfriends or husbands gt.
Texarmageddon 9 months ago
@Texarmageddon heh, idk y i have to talk shit, thats not me, if sombody likes a paticular car, so wat, who am i to say thats all shity an stuff, like ford an chevy fans arguing, like shouldnt we all jus get along, we share the same thing in common, we both like muscle cars an street racing, ther both cars an one doesnt pown the other, its all the condition of the vehicle, bolt ons, an driver skill (for manuals), if u want to compare u need to look at base hp, which the firebird takes it (:
SKitles888 9 months ago
@SKitles888 also have to look at weight... yet i agree f body camaros were dead boring
Texarmageddon 9 months ago
@Texarmageddon lol yea wth how did i forget that one, like the main thing too, cuz i konw the mustang would weigh less, ...i havent drank anything for awhile so im buzzin good
SKitles888 9 months ago
if i had a mach 1 i would invest in a tranny swap and get a 6-speed so you can get better acceleration without losing top end and it would be more fair too since trans am and ss are 6-speeds
Soulscarz 1 year ago
ls1 f body beats 94-07 mustangs all day..the 5.7 is superior to the 4.6
justout75 1 year ago
@justout75 LOL. My LT1 beats mustangs up to 07 whatchu talking about? :P
Locruid 11 months ago
@Locruid umm...thats what it just said. LT1 is a 5.7 liter right?? pay attention to what people say...stupid.
justout75 11 months ago
at 0:16 is that an Indy Ram on the end?
t3rrill79 1 year ago
The T/A had to have more the exhaust and a tune to walk a Mach 1 that hard. Mach 1s are low 13s cars. That was a murder. Is it full exhaust? Either way good kill.
ForgedCobra 1 year ago
wow a rustang loses to a t/a again whoa!
yesac41 2 years ago
watch?v=hXaAh6imixw
1981qrycher 2 years ago
Watched that vid. He was running drag radials.
Mach1Spd 2 years ago
fuck yeah what do u expect its general motors and its a trans am ...got to love those trans am ...especially the ws6 ...i want a ws6 really bad!
shjesus 2 years ago 2
okay, nice vid 'n all but the mustang driver sucked, lol. (or the T/a had been souped up a lot. 0-60 for mach 1, 5.1 average, (manual). 0-60 T/a, 6.o (manual). 1/4 times are both (about) 13.2ish.
wignigeater 2 years ago
Stock WS.6 0-60 is 4.9 and can run the 1/4 high12's-low 13's! That Rustang can't do better than low 14's!
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago
no, they can't...you don't even own a freaking car probably!!!
wignigeater 2 years ago
mmmmmmmmmmmyea they can. drag radials on an Ls1 t/a or camaro can net a 12.9 pass.
LT1berad 2 years ago
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"wignigeater"... I don't own a car? Look at my videos!
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago
Yes they can!
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago
ummm...yes they can to what??? lol
wignigeater 2 years ago
That "rustang" is a Mach 1, meaning it has a 4V engine, meaning they run low 13s stock. You're confusing Machs with GTs. They are totally different machines.
Mach1Spd 2 years ago
You mean it's still a DOHC P.O.S little V8 engine made in Japan by Yamaha?! Thanx for clearing that up!
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago
So, basically what you're saying is that you've had your ass handed to you by a Mach 1?
Mach1Spd 2 years ago
When?! It could beat my car but not an LS1 TA!
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago
Who says it can't? Mine ran 13.3 bone stock. TAs run low 13s as well, stock. They are both low 13 sec cars man.
Mach1Spd 2 years ago
A WS6 can run high 12's-low 13's. I've seen 2 '02 WS.6's run 12.7 bone stock.
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago
You sure that 12.7 TA wasn't on drag radials? I can see a 12.7 on tires. I've had 2 ls1 Z28s and an 04 GTO, so I'm no stranger to LS1 capability. I'm not arguing that the LS1 doesn't have the edge, but 9/10 times, its a drivers race between a Mach and any LS1 F-body.
Mach1Spd 2 years ago 9
@Mach1Spd my cousin says those new GTO's are front wheel drive, so im jus going to ask somone allready... is it really? an i thought they wer LS2 cuz the 6.0l, well leme know thx
SKitles888 9 months ago
@SKitles888 No sir. They are rear wheel drive my friend. The 04 GTOs have the same 350 HP LS1 engine as the C5 Corvettes, and the same automatic 4l60e, or manual T-56 as those Vettes. The 05-06 GTOs have the same 400 HP LS2 that some of the C6 Vettes came with, but still have the same 4L60 and T-56 transmissions.
Mach1Spd 9 months ago
@Mach1Spd lol yea write after i posted that, im like this is youtube, so i typed in 05 gto burnout, i know they got the same motor an tranny as corvettes, but vettes have that wicked intake manifold, thats pretty cool the gto is like a camaro or firebird, my 95 formula has a t-56 tranny (:
SKitles888 9 months ago
@SKitles888 the 01/02 trans ams, GTO's and corvettes, have the LS6 intake manifolds there's no difference between them
rangere3rd 4 months ago
@Mach1Spd not to argue and shit but the LS2 is rated at 375RWHP not 400 the stock LS1's made 415 to the crank and made 355 to the wheels the LS2 made 435 to the crank and 375RWHP the LS3 made 460
rangere3rd 4 months ago
@rangere3rd not in my exp... ls1 was around 355 crank, 300 rw, ls2 400 crank, 335-340 wheel, LS3 426ish crank, 365 wheel.
Thats based off of several vettes, a couple GTOs and a bunch of camaros...
DaBluedude100 4 months ago
@Mach1Spd wrd up that race should be that spaced out
PerryFogg 6 months ago
@PONTIACMUSCLE1 Made in Japan, Yamaha? Are you talking about the older SHO Tauruses?
ForgedCobra 1 year ago
nice vid, not a bad race, but 5.7L LT1 vs a 4.6 Ford Motor really isnt too much of a race IMO (both cars have potential but the TA has a stronger base to build up from, not saying the stang cant get it don, but if both are bolt on b*tches, the TA should win everytime)
derick4000 2 years ago
LS1...
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago 2
Any mods? to any?
unrealford 2 years ago
Mach 1 had a hurst shifter and shaker hood, t/a has exhaust at the time.
killswitchracing 2 years ago
What year was the Mullet mobile, Oh I mean Trans-Am :)
unrealford 2 years ago
01... call it what you want
killswitchracing 2 years ago
hey coming from a mustang guy, good run man.
triplet85 2 years ago 2
@unrealfor rustangs r 4 inbred fag wanab hillbilys....fukin things r square and over weiaght underpowerd junk...................you cant hold a candle to a nasty bird or a mean camaro...and you got a mullet joe dirt
majuub100 1 year ago
@unrealford why do ppl hate on the firebirds like that, lol guess its kinda funny, but i see so many god dam camaros its not funny, firebirds F-body has way more curves than any same year of camaro, go to my chan. an look at my 95 formula, its white so it would be the mullet mobile if any, but with the big stripe down the center an the ram air... it looks better than any other 90's firebird i ever seen, an i dont think i wiil ever see one that looks better...
SKitles888 9 months ago
Shaker hood aint a mod, it comes factory and does nothing for performance. the T/As ram air does more than the machs shaker.
cooldbz12 2 years ago 11
yes it is factory, but still it does more then a regular mustang would.
killswitchracing 2 years ago
I guess you should list your factory ram air hood as a mod too then.
cooldbz12 2 years ago
@killswitchracing nah I have a mach 1, if anything the shaker slows it down. It's extra weight + the air hits too many walls before it goes to the TB. That's why most mach 1's get a aftermarket CAI that mixes with the ram air and has a open box where the air filter sits. So that the air coming from the headlight and grill does most of the work while the ram air is just a +.
GATOWater 7 months ago
@GATOWater
youre a dumbass
SIKMACH1 5 months ago
@GATOWater I would never use a CAI.. RAI with a cutout in the air box for the shaker feeder for sure. the intake tube from the MAF to the TB is total shit in the Mach 1s Mine is going bye bye in the spring. If you do a good pull then get out and grab the tube from the shaker, its cold. Its definitely piping a lot of cold air into the air box for sure. Its not a big differnece but i wouldnt say it hurts. Plus, Its Fucking Cool... I love watching it move around in the hood on the road.
DaBluedude100 4 months ago
@killswitchracing its just as factory as the ram air
cory45x 4 months ago
@killswitchracing still not a mod
The00Mustang 4 months ago
@cooldbz12 Well actually the shaker hood does ad to the performance. Somewhat negligable though, think CAI performance enchancement.
xLuckydemonx 1 year ago
@cooldbz12 the shaker hood is a ram air. its just like the ram air on the TA
StangRacer95 1 year ago
@cooldbz12 no the shaker hood does do something it gets more air in
gtracer56 1 year ago
@cooldbz12 oh hell yea, shaker hood is so fake so for looks, the ram air is forced induction which is better than cold air, stick ur hand out ur window next time ur doin 100, thats some forced induction, i actually think it is the single most best way to have any cars aircleaner hooked up, thru the hood like that, does seem to get alittle warm in stop an go taxi traffic tho
SKitles888 9 months ago
mach's have that stock.
wignigeater 2 years ago
@killswitchracing not tryna knock the t/a(it was a good run for it) but it had just exhaust at the time and it murdered the mach like that? that should still be a drivers race as far as machs and t/a's go.
NAJEE52 10 months ago