Bad trips are just as educational as a good trip. I wouldn't say bad trips are fun or to be looked forward to. But I know learned just as much from my bad trips as my fun ones.
@donwest420 You're absolutely right, that's factual meaning of what drug is. But the way I see it is that it is all a matter of what context it's put in. I don't think I really need to adress this to YOU, but some people would just react in the wrong way if you would say that you're prescribed with something that you call "drug", even though it's purpose is medical. It just happens to be more appropriate to call it "medication" in casual environments.
mdma crystals didn't make me feel like shit the day after, i think what he means is the feeling is so euphoric and you deplete most of your serotonin that you have kind of a dip, but it definitely is worth trying out, a pretty harmless drug that will make you love everything haha.
And it's not addicting, mainly because if you use it you have to wait a couple of weeks before you can experience the same high again because you need to allow your body to build up more serotonin again.
@TH3USUALSUSPECT Agreed. My brother is an MD, PhD, who also (ahem) has experimented quite a bit with most drugs (with other docs and med students) and being the typical nerd has researched extensively what is actually going on in the brain. MDMA + LSD are probably the most positive drugs in terms of both pleasure, MEANINGFUL and memorable altered states that actually expand perception rather than caveman drugs like alcohol - a baseball bat to the brain - simply, numbing & dumbing your senses
@TH3USUALSUSPECT the second paragraph is the most deceiving comment about mdma. You made that comment 6 days ago not a atleast 10 years ago. ecstasy is not pure any more... you cant even trust that molly is pure mdma in this day n age. They cut ecstasy with coke, speed, heroine, etc. And the pills that are especially cut with extra drugs are addictive. I have friends who use to be addicted. And no you dont have to wait a couple of weeks, those same friends were getting high every day on it.
Here in Amsterdam we can test drugs for free at drug labs set up by the government to prevent drug retaled accidents so i'm fairly certain everything i take is as pure as it can get, x is never 100% pure but at least we know its not cut with anything.
Everything can be addicting when not used properly, my point is compared to alcohol, cocaine and other drugs mdma is relatively harmless..but again it depends on the person who uses it.
@TH3USUALSUSPECT Its better to wait a couple of weeks but its not necessary. Anyway if you get PURE MDMA i would say its the closest to being not addicting. But theres lots of e pills that are cut and are addictive.
Im sorry to burst your bubble but it is a well know fact that in order to get that euphoric feeling again, you need to allow your body to replenish the used up serotonin, and i repeat that may take weeks depending on how much you used before that.
Yes you can get high off of it after you deplete your body off serotonin but you will definitely not experience the same high shortly after.
@TH3USUALSUSPECT Yeah it wont be the same high but you can get high and people never the less still do it. Especially people addicted to e pills. Youre familiar with ecstasy so you out of anyone should know that if youre an e addict you dont care for waiting weeks or days. Theres ppl that pop 5+ pills a day. My friend in his addiction days took 16 in one day stayed up till the next day then took 4 more. So i mean it is smart to wait a while but depending on the user they might not do that.
You're still not reading my replies properly, and there's no need to repeat what i have just said.
"Everything can be addicting when not used properly, my point is compared to alcohol, cocaine and other drugs mdma is relatively harmless..but again it depends on the person who uses it."
Logic? I majored in Philosophy and minored in Theory (which is logic of mathematics) from Colorado State University. Keep trying to sound intelligent tough guy bahahaha I'm not the one getting butthurt over someone calling it god's plant. Just give up, kid
@CLOVERCITYY15 God's plant huh? Another fucking moron spewing bullshit. You would be the last person I would go to for reasoning. Thank your god, we don't have you trying to further legislation on this matter. Amen.
@drbluntphd No, clearly my point went over your head. I live in Maui and you assume I don't smoke cannabis(correct spelling btw). Never said weed is bad. Simply stated that your reasoning is beyond doltish. Just stay on mom's couch while the grown ups with logic and reason fight for your right to legalize and decriminalize cannabis. The best you can do is offer prayer, because the minute you speak, the village idiot has made his presence known.
I remember being a teen and I remember actually being scared to smoke weed. Alot of my friend were straight pot-heads and I used to make excuses not to smoke because the high would just trip my ass off. At the time there were many things that I could not accept in my life (death) and when I would smoke It just opened my mind. Now that I am older I smoke it often and I learn to deal with my thoughts. Marijuana just overall makes me a better person
I agree somewhat. But some people do get addicted to the high of smoking marijuana. Its not safe when you smoke it all the time and end up not caring about anything. Also, people. This is a drug. But don't think that doing it every day is not bad or good for you. I really recommended doing it only maybe weekly or more better even just ,monthly. imo
@bright5086200 also marijuana is not a drug, its life its fuckn medication
How many people are enslaved to sugar, coffee, sex, TV and so on!
If you cant control yourself then you shouldn't do it, this life style is not for everyone and like i said its only addictive if you have a addictive traits
@LegalizeIt310 I'm not against a marijuana legalisation, but you seem to be a little wrong here. Whether it's a drug or a medication is defined by the purpose of using it. If you're using it against your never ending migraine, then it's a medication. If you're doing it for the fuddle and just enjoying it then it's clearly a drug, a very good one I just need to add.
Joe Rogan talking about DMT is much more entertaining than this video. He seems to be just wasting time, doesn't seem very interested in what he's talking about.
DMT = much better drug than marijuana, LSD, cocaine, PCP, or scopolamine.
@CrackFiend100 It's not that hard to make, you just have to know your basic chemistry. For those of you who feel you have the PRIVILEGE to take DMT, you should at least have paid attention in highschool. There are many plants you can extract DMT from, even basic grass.
...taking LSD? Make sure they are taking it under safe conditions, with trustworthy, sober people, in a pleasant environment. Do not mix it with other drugs, including prescription drugs. Drink water. Take it in the morning or afternoon, not evening -- otherwise you'll be physically exhausted and have trouble sleeping.
And if you're just using it to get screwed up and "ESCAPE REALITY," you leave them alone. This will ultimately cause fewer problems and avoid scaring them."
@Razlo5000 LOL. Anyone reading this idiot's comments, please consider he is mentally challenged in some way. Razlo5000 supports "Misandry is the hatred of men and boys and it is the last form of socially acceptable bigotry in the western culture."
Sounds like this douche couldn't man up and fulfill his role as a man on this earth, so he's crying like a feminist about it.
LOL, I'm glad our enemies are mental midgets like you.
WAY TO MANGINA DOWN & attack my manhood in a bid to garner the attention & approval of women. How fucking sad are you?! Listen, this won't get you laid pal. real women want MEN, not lapdogs who sell out against their gender by cosigning to femifascist ideologies just to earn a pat on the head & the utterance "good boy". You only think with your small head.
Fighting for equality & what is right IS my role as a man on this earth.
"Load of crap written by someone who clearly knows nothing about LSD.
There is no such thing as an LSD addict. Upon first discovering LSD, some people experiment with it multiple times in rapid succession. But no one stays with it. It's not a pleasure drug. It's an introspection drug. The exciting thing about the drug is gaining insights into life, the human condition, etc. But that doesn't happen with multiple trips, so interest quickly drops off."
@Razlo5000 you probably would of died of a flu years ago if it werent for drugs. drugs are definitely meant to be used. different drugs are for different things.
I'm obviously not talking about prescription drugs. I'm speaking about those that alter your state of mind. Doing cocaine is smoking weed is sniffing glue is doing heroin is sniffing paint fumes is drinking mouthwash is hitting acid. Its all the same to me because the reasons for doing all of these are the same. Tell me, if you got the same effect of smoking weed from poking your brain with a chop stick stuffed up your nose would you do THAT instead? It should all be legalized.
@Razlo5000 i dont think they all should be legalized but things like mushrooms and peyote should be. things like the heroin and cocaine though are examples of drug abuse and the exact reasons why certain things should be illegal. things are all mixed up though when it comes to pharmaceuticals. heroin is illegal when theres much worse opiates you can get via prescription and ritalin does pretty much the exact same thing as coke. i was just saying using psychedelics isnt an example of drug abuse.
It absolutely IS an example of drug abuse and I say if the kids want to eat dirt, let them. Its not like the laws make any difference anyways. People still do weed, heroin, coke, mushrooms, etc despite them being illegal. Just legalize them. Let them fuck up their lives. Who cares? Perhaps a society would emerge from that which would have NO FURTHER DESIRE to WILLFULLY diminish one's cognitive faculties. Ever!
@Razlo5000 You need to do your research on this topic and stop listening to what the news and your family told you.
I hope with all this preaching you follow a good diet, because that's actually a much bigger killer than all drug use combined.
also forgot to mention, studies have shown that marijuana kills cancer cells whilst not killing regular ones. damn what an evil drug. and the infamous methamphetamine (ice, crystal meth, shard, crank, speed) - also a prescription medication :)
"You need to do your research on this topic and stop listening to what the news and your family told you."
HA! A quick glance at my channel will prove beyond doubt that this is what I do on a daily basis.
I absolutely eat right but I'll bet those that don't have problems which are only compounded and worsened by the toxic garbage they inhale and inject into their systems.
"Studies show.." is the most over-used and diluted phrase in society today. No assertions are more valid through its use.
@Razlo5000 Prescription drugs don't alter your state of mind?
Ritalin/Adderall - Amphetamines (SPEED)
Pain Medications - Opiates (Heroin is metabolised into morphine, as is codeine (OTC?))
Cocaine, PCP, Ketamine - Anesthetic.
Medical Marijuana - A lot of medical applications.
MDMA (Ecstasy) LSD (Acid) - Was used in therapy to bring down psychological barriers before they were made illegal. Actually they were so promising, many psychiatrists used it after it was made illegal anyway.
We live in a society which thinks throwing prescriptive drugs at "problems" will make them go away. Ritalin & Adderall are two such examples. I don't take either because I have the ultra uncanny ability to stay focused and attentive when I am required to. In addition, I get to sleep at a decent hour so I feel no restlessness the following day.
On rare occasions when I get a headache, I take pain killers like advil but this does not alter my state of mind.
Marijuana in my view has absolutely no value whatsoever except to escape the harsh realities of life. Same with ecstasy and acid. I would never willfully diminish my brain's ability to function. Not even for an instant. To me, doing weed is absolutely no different than sniffing paint or drinking lysterine and I'm sure some liberal scientists could come up with medical advantages of these if they looked hard enough and wanted to find them.
Its best you do not get me started on psychology.
@Razlo5000 You sounded like you knew what you were talking about right up until you said that people take acid to escape the harsh realities of life.
You ain't running from shit on psychedelics, in fact, if you have problems in your life psychedelics won't sugar coat them like people they will showcase them right in front of your face, and it's hard to face them.
FYI, I'm not a Joe Rogan fanboy and I don't agree with everything he says.
Your experience on acid is greatly dependent on what Timothy Leary referred to as "the set" (the state of mind you go in with). You can control where the acid trip takes you. If you want to focus on a negative thought, then that is the general theme the trip will take. If you choose to focus on positives, (music, having a good time), then the trip goes that route. So, my previous statement was still correct in that you would only want to go on one of these "trips" to escape reality.
@Razlo5000 Timothy Leary was an experienced user, when you haven't had thousands of trips its harder to control where the direction will go, I don't know why you would thinking people are escaping the harsh realities of life with acid, this is not heroin, cocaine, alcohol or yes even marijuana, which some people do use to escape. but I can't see how acid could be used as an escape route.
And I have nothing against people who don't use drugs, people can do what they like, its their own business.
What are drug abusers doing if not trying to escape into a world of fantasies? You argue that there are differences behind being fucked up on acid, heroin, coke, etc..? Well what you will have to concede is that the motivations for doing these things are all the same. The desired result is always the same. Inebriation & intoxication. Based on that, doing heroin, coke, or even weed is no different than sniffing paint fumes.
@Razlo5000 Your syaing alcohol is a safer alternative to other drugs? alcohol is actually TOXIC to the body. And again, you generalise all different types of drugs into one "drugs" alcohol fits into that too, why is that not on the list? What if someone has a puff on a joint and doesnt get completely fucked up, just a light buzz, what I'd image you get when drinking a few beers.
You think you have interesting and unique thoughts sober, try a psychedelic lol
Again, I said that I do not drink to a point that it impairs my judgement. And again, health concerns are almost irrelevant to me. Its all about how it affects your intellectual capacity. On that front, alcohol isn't akin to drugs because after 1 or 2 beers, I still have my full cognitive faculties. I can still think clearly and I am still very much sober. I'm still ME. Escaping into ridiculousness and indulging in mindless "psychedelics" doesn't appeal to me at all.
@Razlo5000 "full" cognitive facilities? Yeah right. You don't know anything about your own brain so don't even talk. People say pot makes you "dumb" and use it's effects on memory as proof. What most people dont know is that there have been scientific studies which indicate that THC causes the mind to make stronger, better, more insightful connections between things the user already knows. Look it up, I'm not fucking around.
I'll tell you this, I probably know more than what your google search tells you.
Doing drugs does not make you smarter, stronger, "better", more insightful, or super human in any way. Of course there are studies out there by so called "scientists" who write their conclusions first and fill in whatever gaps they need to to "prove" their assertions. There are also many studies out there that confirm drugs inhibit and alter the way your brain works. Put down the spray paint & read a book.
@Razlo5000 no YOU read a book. You brushed off something I said like it was a lie because you dont agree with it. Arrogant asshole. Open your fucking mind
I brushed it aside because i've encountered this ridiculously stupid argument a million times before. I KNOW its bullshit. This is the same typical nonsense that DOPE HEADS keep telling themselves to convince them that what they're doing is harmless and even good for you. Getting fucked up is not something to be proud of. You should be ashamed of it. Its why I say legalize everything. We should live in a society where nobody would WANT to do something so dumb. "Open" MY mind?! HA!
I HAVE read such studies actually. For the sake of veracity, I do not just read and study the sides I agree with.
I know exactly what drugs are, what they do, and the effects they have. I am never going to dumb myself down just to be entertained for a short period of time. Where is the maturity in that? Those people that partake in this are sad and pathetic people. Clearly, you're the one escaping the "SCAAAARRRRYYYYY" world. I keep a sharp mind at all times.
@Razlo5000 Obviously your not that sharp, because if you were, you could appreciate the fact that until you've seen it first-hand, then you have no right to talk. You keep saying mindless, but you don't know the half of it. You don't even know what it means to have a mind.
Study your chemistry because there is no such substance as "drugs". The many different substances that your immature mind considers "drugs" have many different properties and affect your mind very differently.
Ah, the old "don't knock it till you try it" mentality.
Bonehead, sometimes one doesn't need to touch the stove top to know its hot. Especially if you can see the surface element is burning bright red.
In addition, you serial disassembler, moving to insult somebody is no way to win an argument or convince someone that come over to your side. All you've proven is that clearly debating this topic is the last thing you want to do.
@Razlo5000 How could you know what it even means for something to be hot until you've been burned? Actually felt the burn? You don't. You can know a description of what the feeling is, but you won't know the feeling.
Win your side? Obviously no one will. Youve been posting your "YOU ARE ALL WRONG" crap on this video constantly. Maybe if you smoked some weed, you'd realize how petty and stupid everything you are being. It's like you are trying to convince yourself... sad. Go outside
@Razlo5000 Look, at the end of the day you're the one whose gonna reach the end of your life having not experienced MANY beautiful things. Which is fine by me, but stop spreading your crappy propaganda around, government scientists lie to you. For example; the ecstasy study that said it put holes in your brain, the study that moved it to the emergency ban list, incorrect because the scientists 'accidentally' gave the monkeys methamphetamine instead of MDMA.
What "crappy propaganda" am I spreading around exactly? That one should think highly enough of their own unique thoughts as to never want to willfully debilitate their mind's ability to form them?
Don't worry, I don't give government studies any clout whatsoever. (Again, see my channel). I understand there are a lot of bullshit studies on both sides. I take everything with a grain of salt and I do not use these for the basis of my beliefs at all.
@Razlo5000 Also the marijuana study that said it causes brain damage? False.
The scientists strapped a gas mask on these monkeys and pumped thousands and thousands times the regular dosage into them. But that's not what caused the brain damage, they didn't give these monkeys oxygen for minutes at a time. Now, I'm not exactly qualified here, so I don't know if this is true, but I've heard from a friend of a friend's sisters friends auntie that no oxygen = brain damage...dunno if it's true though.
If there is one thing my hundreds of hours of studying feminist propaganda has proven, its that the phrase "studies show.." is worth its weight in dried up dog shit these days.
The most powerful thing known to man is the human mind. Its the ultimate super computer.
When somebody choking on smoke hands me a tiny piece of rolled up toilet paper and says with squinting red eyes;
"Try this man, it will fuck you up"
My first inclination is to say F-off you degenerate weakling. I'm proud to be ME!
the definition of abuse is: "misuse: improper or excessive use"
So you're saying that people who use drugs a few times in their life are abusing them? someone who uses psychedelics or MDMA say, once a year or so are abusing them?
Like I've said you don't escape anything on psychedelics, and you would know that if you have done any research whatsoever. I don't believe you have.
I'm saying that those who use drugs (DRUGS by the way, I'm not talking about advil or allegra) are misusing, and improperly abusing their brains. This is the case EVERY time. This is the case regardless of the number of times a person does this a year, a month, or a in a week. You are willfully debilitating your mind with the sole intention of getting "fucked up". Thats abuse. I'm repeating myself here.
"Acid FOR SURE, man if u wanna have more visuals, hallucinations, feel energetic then try LSD, in my opinion LSD is better than -shrooms.
I recommend you to take the acid in an open place, the sky is the FUCK when u r tripping, i've tried lot of times LSD & i have tripped AMAZING with the sky(clouds, stars, moon)-----> WUAAA ;Þ u really feel that u r drugged; i tried Hoffman and MichelAngels acids most of the times and they r fuckin' great!"
What is this person doing if not escaping reality?
@Razlo5000 "seeking spiritual transcendence and a means of ESCAPE from the conventional world." this is someones opinion. But yes LSD does take you out of reality at a high enough dose, doesn't mean you escape it, saying escape means your running from it, if you run from your problems using drugs then yes, it's abuse. like ive said many many times. You don't escape anything on LSD, if you don't agree with that then you are babbling about things you don't understand.
Wait just a minute. You claimed I didn't know what I was talking about and didn't understand drugs, yet here is somebody who DOES use drugs and admits acid is used as a means of escape. So even if YOU do not perceive acid to be a means of escaping reality, others clearly do. So it also then opens up the possibility that you yourself are actually escaping reality but do not/are not willing to accept this as the truth.
One quote which incapsulates my perspective perfectly as to why LSD (and drugs) are wrong is:
"They are the attempt to have:
Rights without duties.
Claims without responsibilities
Pleasure without cost.
The real cost of having any peaceful enjoyment of the world is that one maintains institutions and makes a sacrifice to preserve one's inheritance. This is something the young people of the 60's were reluctant to do. LSD ministered to that reluctance."
@Razlo5000 "It's not a pleasure drug. It's an introspection drug" exactly.
And I never said there weren't people just wanting to get fucked up. Show me proof that LSD damages the brain? as in the molecule itself.
It can bring out mental disorders in people **who already have them** so in that sense yes, it will give a person schizophrenia if they were already going to get it.
Other than that, it has no negative effects. The experience itself can change people, usually for the better...
"It's not a pleasure drug. It's an introspection drug" -"exactly".
You think this justifies its usage? One can have an introspection without fucking with their brain's ability to function.
The fact LSD can bring out mental disorders is another valid point, but my argument does not hinge on the long term affects of the drug. Its the immediate act of willfully debilitating your unique mind. How many times have I said this now? Either you don't understand or you're refusing to accept this.
@Razlo5000 "Its the immediate act of willfully debilitating your unique mind. How many times have I said this now?"
I'm not going to say anything else until you show me proof. I want to see some hard evidence that the LSD molecule debilitates your mind, outside of the effects the user seeks. (meaning once it's worn off)
"debilitates your mind, outside of the effects the user seeks. (meaning once it's worn off)"
Aside from the effects the user seeks?! You've just said it yourself. The effects one seeks is escaping reality & being fucked up. (I've already proven escape was one motivation for taking it). Even though its temporary, THATS my aversion to it.
Again, watch the documentary "The Beyond Within" at Topdocumentaryfilms(dot)com.
Observe the girl at 19:19 and tell me she is functioning at her mental peek.
@Razlo5000 Again, show me scientific proof that LSD causes neurotoxicity to an otherwise healthy person...You gonna keep beating around the bush avoiding my question or not?
By neurotoxicity you mean basically damage or long term effects. My argument has never been about the damage or long term effects of drugs. Not saying there isn't any, there may or may not be.
Once again,
Its THE ACT of willfully debilitating your brains ability to function at its peek. EVEN IF your brain eventually returns to full capacity with NO ill effects afterwards, it is the foolish and idiotic act of "mind masturbation" that my aversion stems from.
@Razlo5000 Everything is a drug, what about native asians eating the Ephedra plant as a medicine?contains Ephedrine, a stimulant and precursor to amphetamine, is that classed as an escape? What about L-tyrosine in Turkeys? Makes you sleepy, and also metabolises into 5-HTP and then Serotonin, should we ban the eating of turkeys? Your argument is silly because things aren't as black and white as you make it out to be. EVERYTHING you eat changes brain function.
Oh, here we go with the "everything is a drug" argument.
Are you seriously going to sit there & try to argue that smoking weed, hitting acid, doing shrooms, sniffing crack, sniffing glue, etc, etc, is no different than eating turkey?
Are you high?
After I eat turkey, I MIGHT get a little drowse, but I can still think straight. I am still in full control of my complete cognitive faculties. My eyes are not blood shot & my perceptions are not tainted in the least.
@Razlo5000 Well then going by your argument, a small amount of amphetamine is great for everyone because it improves concentration, reflexes etc... no loss of cognitive ability, in fact an improvement.
The turkey vs other 'hard' drugs is exaggeration on both side, to point out that there is no line between bad drug and good drug. they all have positive and negative effects. like my ephedra argument, which was a more powerful argument than the turkey, but you completely ignored it.
@Razlo5000 also, your having a go at me because I compared turkeys and other drugs?
Your the one comparing smoking Marijuana and sniffing paint.
You have shown you have no knowlede of anything you are talking about other than silly propaganda and the southern ideology "drugs are bad". You have no idea what you're on, comparing weed to paint. yeah man, have a go at me for pointing out turkeys have chemicals which alter brain chemistry. Fuck me...
@Razlo5000 Why are you saying that LSD, DMT, shrooms and that stuff is bad? Is it because the school, your parents and society told you they are? Every ancient culture used drugs in one or another way. It's not necessarily a way to escape from your problems or whatsoever, but rather a way of experimentation and discovery of new ideas, thoughts and/or feelings. What you are used to due to your senses isn't everything, life isn't a fucking script, you know, you can try new stuff if you want to.
My lack of desire to debilitate my mind is not the result of what school, parents, or anything or anybody in society tells me. It's a decision I have made by myself.
Im my opinion there is NOTHING more powerful than the human mind. Willfully reducing one's unique cognitive abilities is incomprehensible to me. Why would you do such a thing?! Even for one second. Aren't you proud of who you are naturally? I'm only interesting in expanding my knowledge and experiencing life through MY eyes.
@Razlo5000 ..." I remained in shock at the power of the anger inside me. And something about seeing it, about facing it, permanently burned up a lot of anger inside me. Before that night, I was a total asshole to a lot of people. After that night…I was different."
LSD and other psychedelics are very mysterious, some of the best music and pieces of art were made on them...
If this person came to this realization from their own sober introspection, it would be far more rewarding.
You cannot attribute some famous music and art solely to the influence of LSD. Most of the best human accomplishments were done by men with clear, focused, & sober minds. Beethoven, Mozart, the channel "Pinegrove33", the book War & Peace, the moon landing, internet technology, etc...
@Razlo5000 Psychedelics change the way you think while your on them. Did you know the person who discovered the double helix structure of DNA was under the influence of LSD, he won a Nobel prize and has undoubtedly saved many many many many lives.
MDMA has possible neurotoxic effects when used quite regularly, as does alcohol though. If people want to use MDMA every weekend and fuck themselves up I don't care. But it's essentially harmless when used properly, as everything is.
If you throw enough of this at the wall eventually something is going to stick. Sure some achievements might have come about through some cosmic coincidence that wouldn't have if not for the influence of drugs but what about the uncountable number of people who either wasted their lives or threw away their potential &/or killed themselves as a result of abusing drugs. Who knows what we've missed out on or where we'd be if these people chose intelligent pursuits over getting "fucked up".
@Razlo5000 At the end of the day, you're clearly into the whole "it's ok to drink your drug" mentality. I never denied that drugs can dop damage, but damage from alcohol is on par, if not worse than that of most drugs.
Your also categorizing users into "drug abusers" and "drug abusers". Not everyone abuses drugs, some people use them recreationaly and only recreationly. You're generalizations are terrible.
At the end of the day, I do not sacrifice my brain's ability to function at its peek for the sake of a "trip". When I DO drink I exercise restraint, willpower, and control to drink only a small amount. At no time do I lose my fullest cognitive ability.
If you use drugs, you're willfully abusing your brain. This is true 100% of the time.
Please explain the difference between smoking weed and sniffing spray paint.
@Razlo5000 huffing (not "sniffing") paint is inhaling toxic volatile fumes, which actually poison your nervous system and kills your brain cells. The "high" is lightheadedness from neural injury. Not at all what THC does to you
@Razlo5000 you asserted in the same fashion so dont be a hypocrite.
What do I have to "prove"? You've already revealed yourself to be in a completely ignorant state of mind by saying that a plant and a volatile organic compound "have the same experience" and "are no different from each other"
It doesn't matter anyway because you don't belong commenting on this video. It's completely obvious that you have never done any psychadelic, nor should you. You wouldn't be able to handle it.
I've been around more than a few drug users. I have yet to see one of them say one thing deeply intelligent while high. In fact, all I've ever seen of such people is mindless giggling and utter astonishment at NOTHING. It is obvious to anybody who DOESN'T willfully debilitate their own brain just for mindless entertainment that drugs only hinder one's mature, intelligent thought processes.
Wouldn't be able to handle it?! I see, its one of those: "Your IQ must be THIS LOW to ride" deals.
Clearly not, as I am obviously the odd man out in these scenarios. But I'm sure those YOU choose to gather and communally get trashed with are intellectual giants.
@Razlo5000 Actually yes, I only associate myself with intelligent people.
Who said we communally get trashed? You're such a flip-flopper. You say whatever will make you look best on a post-for-post basis. One reply you made indicated that you were trying to have a rational debate. Now you want to give me a bunch of sarcasm and stereotype me, which is no part of rational debate. Only you thinks you're right because you say whatever makes you right.
""er dah Acid fun acid fun acid way fun".......I so hope one of you have a bad tripp, then you really see how fun ACID is, DAMN IT! Treat this Drug with Respect!
"er dah acid is spiritual i da meet da gawd. daaah"
what are you talking about, acid IS fun!"
"intelligent people" huh? But I'm sure you and you're friends are nothing like that right?
"Only you thinks you're right because you say whatever makes you right."
@Razlo5000 If you have a bad trip, its because you've got some guilt on your conscience. Maybe you didn't realize it, because your ego was doing everything it can to protect you from what you, deep down, know. Drugs like acid and mushrooms force you to stare directly into your psychological issues by pulling them straight into your conscious train of thought, awakening your moral spirit. This is what's known as "ego-death" and it scares a lot of weak willed people.
What about those people who think they are invincible & get themselves and/or others killed? Were those "bad trips"?
I would describe drugs users as the weak willed people. There is nothing that drugs provide you which you are not capable of doing fully aware and sober. Getting "fucked up" is never a solution. It is the second wrong that doesn't make a right. Face your issues head on & with a clear mind. Endure through strength of will and a total unwillingness to accept failure.
@Razlo5000 "There is nothing that drugs provide you which you are not capable of doing fully aware and sober"... Of course there are things that drugs provide you, not all of them are good things and it depends entirely on your perspective and point of view. I'm not takling about crack, heroin and that shit. Your senses make you feel some determinated thing, so does your brain. But there are many thing you are not capable to percieve and that's were drugs come in. They are not an escape.
I contest that drugs ARE an escape & I've provided an example of 1 abuser who agrees.
The motivations for doing all drugs are the same. Inhibiting your cognitive faculties, distorting your perceptions, or achieving an unnatural state of mind. None of these appeal to me. I would never want to be anything than what I am right now. Since those fucked up on drugs display a serious regression in intellectual capacity, I'm less than interested in what drugs supposedly provide if that is the cost.
Yes I'll admit that drugs are a form of escape. So is a vacation from your job. There is nothing wrong with trying to take your mind off of the stresses of life from time to time. If a person does drugs all the time, then it's no longer an escape, it's avoidance of life and responsibility. There is a huge difference.
The difference is this; When you escape from your job and go on vacation, you're still YOU. You are coping with stress in a normal and healthy way. Your mind is intact the entire time. When you escape reality through the use of drugs, you attenuate your mind. Only somebody with zero pride in themselves and who they are would do something so egregiously shameful and stupid.
I don't condone the use of anything other than marijuana. When you use marijuana, your mind is not silenced or attenuated as you put it. In fact it stimulates your mind. It allows you to consider things you may not have thought of while straight. It stimulates creativity. It's not anything shameful at all. You shouldn't call something stupid if you have no first hand knowledge in it. If marijuana is not for you then that's great. It's your choice. I won't call you stupid for it.
You're trying to justify weed as being a small harmless exception to the rule. It is not. People high on weed certainly do not look "stimulated" or "creative" and they absolutely do not demonstrate a higher level of perception. When they aren't coughing profusely, some have described weed as lowering your minds expectations so that even simple and ordinary things are extremely complex & interesting.
To willingly do this to yourself, IS an act of idiocy. No different than sniffing paint.
I'm telling you from experience and you offer what you say is someone else's experience and expect me to believe what you say someone else has said trumps my own experience? You're insane. To willingly try to to convince one that thier experiences didn't happen IS AN ACT OF IDIOCY.
Your experiences are irrelevant. Whatever you experience while masturbating your mind says nothing to my point. Your mind does not gain from the experience of abusing drugs. While fucked up, your cognitive abilities are hindered and your perceptions are distorted. This is the effect drugs have on human beings, including yourself. Guess what-you're special, just like everybody else. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Its why I say LEGALIZE ALL OF IT. Let them fuck themselves up.
I do not drink coffee, and I drink soda about as frequently as I drink alcohol (which is very rarely and in small portions). I'll take advil on the rare occasion that I get a severe headache.
@Razlo5000 I've taken ecstasya few times over a 2 year period, going by your logic I took it to escape the harsh realities of my life. I actually did it to have a great fucking time, which I did. I didn't go overboard, I don't do it regular so each time I have woken up feeling great. no comedown whatsoever, peoples body reacts differently though, so I guess I'm lucky.
Can I ask you, Have you ever done drugs? you have no idea what it's like.
I never accused you of being a Joe Rogan fanboy and it wouldn't make any difference if you were.
No I have never done drugs because, again, I would never willfully diminish my brain's ability to function. Not even for an instant. I can have a great fucking time with my full cognitive abilities. In fact, I insist upon it. I'm aware that there are countless articles out there by people who want to sell the idea that weed is either harmless, good for you or even a miracle cure. Its just not so.
@Razlo5000 I was just pointing out that I wasn't cause they don't usually have their own opinions.
I'm not saying weed is harmless, it can impair mental abilities when used every day for a long period of time, i've seen it happen, i've also seen it not happen. however when they took a break, they were back to normal within 2 weeks to a month. Alcohol abuse is a lot more detrimental to your health and cognitive ability than marijuana abuse, I've seen both first hand. Should it be legalised?
Alcohol IS legal (& should be) but I do not drink to a point that it impairs my judgement. I also don't reject drugs solely for the health reasons. In fact, health factors are almost irrelevant. The bulk of the reason I reject drugs is because of what they take from me; my full cognitive ability. Hindering my unique thoughts and my untrammeled mind in favor of being "fucked up" for a while seems juvenile & ludicrous. Ergo, I'm disappointed that Joe Rogan doesn't see that.
ive smoke marijuana more than 365 days in a row, nothing happens except i get really good ideas. it enhances my imagination to create ideas for movies writing comic books video games etc. its medicine, food, clothing, and actually cleans more carbon emissions than trees do. so if we want to save our planet from global warming. we must go green....weed green that is
I think weed is the only safe high out there. For sure at least, I mean mushrooms and LSD can have a pretty dramatic effect. The magnitude of the effect depends on the individuals who partake in using those drugs. I'm pretty sure you can't overdose on any of those drugs but they can mess things up in your brain. Marijuana has some very slight negative effects as well. But it's very mild that a occasional user won't feel at all. Now if you smoke that like 24/7 that's something else. Since u SMOKE
I upped your comment, because I kind of agree, but good LSD is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more enjoyable (better crash effects too).
@kats63139 He was just stating substances that have similar habits of abuse. Just because they have different effects doesn't mean they are abused less than others or don't cause the same amount of damage. But if you want to argue cigarettes kill more people than opiads do by far, so good point in making yourself a idiot.
@wagner416 I am talking about the addiction factor moron, did you even watch the video? Clearly you want suck his ass or something, so good for you. On a different note, where did you learn grammar? "So good point in making yourself a idiot?" "Just because they have different effects doesn't mean they are abused less than others or don't cause the same amount of damage." Learn the english language and punctuation first, then come and insult me.
@kats63139 The point being made was simple. When people revert to grammar lessons as a come back insult it blows my mind. More people are addicted to nicotine than opiads. Also you should probably proof read your post before making insults on someone elses post.
lol there's no way I would do shrooms man ... I'd bug the fuck out and kill someone ... might come down and realize I've been stabbing a stop sign with my iPod for 8 hours or think crazy jedi rapists are out to get me ... I'd be freaking the fuck out! ... I fucking hate star wars
the only thing dangerous is the drug cartels and the people that kill for it . I agree that marijuana isn't bad but i've seen friends fuck up their lives with a joint.
Bad trips are just as educational as a good trip. I wouldn't say bad trips are fun or to be looked forward to. But I know learned just as much from my bad trips as my fun ones.
Drummerhb 3 weeks ago
With a telescope, I can see Yoda from the window of my rehab.
C2CONTINUE 3 weeks ago
is there a channel that uploads joe rogans podcast?
BearGrylls123100 2 months ago
@BearGrylls123100 yeah its go fuck yourself.com
Chanchowlee 2 months ago
@Chanchowlee wow, a douche bag on a joe rogan video. i wouldnt have thunk it
BearGrylls123100 2 months ago
@BearGrylls123100 go fuck your dead mother asscheeks
Chanchowlee 2 months ago
@Chanchowlee come at me bro
BearGrylls123100 2 months ago
@BearGrylls123100 ill cum on you, dumbass
Chanchowlee 2 months ago
@Chanchowlee then ill lick it off, and proceed to cum on you
BearGrylls123100 2 months ago
@BearGrylls123100 at a boy except when i shot my load in your eye, ill then shot you in the head
Chanchowlee 1 month ago
@BearGrylls123100 how do you lick it off if your dead you sack happy jackass
Chanchowlee 1 month ago
@Chanchowlee cause i'll fuck you til you love me bitch
BearGrylls123100 1 month ago
acid and dmt
mancsakacarl 6 months ago
@donwest420 You're absolutely right, that's factual meaning of what drug is. But the way I see it is that it is all a matter of what context it's put in. I don't think I really need to adress this to YOU, but some people would just react in the wrong way if you would say that you're prescribed with something that you call "drug", even though it's purpose is medical. It just happens to be more appropriate to call it "medication" in casual environments.
buoghuoj 6 months ago
a bad trip is you gotta deal with the fact you got some bad shit in your head...so true!!
FinesseFlow 7 months ago
16 xTc pills in one day? he's not dead or hospitalized lol? you got some bunk ass pills bro.. thats weird and stupid.
andyfibb 7 months ago
i think i hear joey diaz in the background lmao
tranceporter09 8 months ago
what a pot head
lmaoallthetime100 8 months ago
mdma crystals didn't make me feel like shit the day after, i think what he means is the feeling is so euphoric and you deplete most of your serotonin that you have kind of a dip, but it definitely is worth trying out, a pretty harmless drug that will make you love everything haha.
And it's not addicting, mainly because if you use it you have to wait a couple of weeks before you can experience the same high again because you need to allow your body to build up more serotonin again.
TH3USUALSUSPECT 9 months ago 13
@TH3USUALSUSPECT Agreed. My brother is an MD, PhD, who also (ahem) has experimented quite a bit with most drugs (with other docs and med students) and being the typical nerd has researched extensively what is actually going on in the brain. MDMA + LSD are probably the most positive drugs in terms of both pleasure, MEANINGFUL and memorable altered states that actually expand perception rather than caveman drugs like alcohol - a baseball bat to the brain - simply, numbing & dumbing your senses
forestskog 8 months ago 10
@forestskog
Well said :)
TH3USUALSUSPECT 8 months ago
@TH3USUALSUSPECT the second paragraph is the most deceiving comment about mdma. You made that comment 6 days ago not a atleast 10 years ago. ecstasy is not pure any more... you cant even trust that molly is pure mdma in this day n age. They cut ecstasy with coke, speed, heroine, etc. And the pills that are especially cut with extra drugs are addictive. I have friends who use to be addicted. And no you dont have to wait a couple of weeks, those same friends were getting high every day on it.
reaperofgenocide 8 months ago
@reaperofgenocide
Here in Amsterdam we can test drugs for free at drug labs set up by the government to prevent drug retaled accidents so i'm fairly certain everything i take is as pure as it can get, x is never 100% pure but at least we know its not cut with anything.
Everything can be addicting when not used properly, my point is compared to alcohol, cocaine and other drugs mdma is relatively harmless..but again it depends on the person who uses it.
TH3USUALSUSPECT 8 months ago
@TH3USUALSUSPECT Its better to wait a couple of weeks but its not necessary. Anyway if you get PURE MDMA i would say its the closest to being not addicting. But theres lots of e pills that are cut and are addictive.
reaperofgenocide 8 months ago
@reaperofgenocide
Im sorry to burst your bubble but it is a well know fact that in order to get that euphoric feeling again, you need to allow your body to replenish the used up serotonin, and i repeat that may take weeks depending on how much you used before that.
Yes you can get high off of it after you deplete your body off serotonin but you will definitely not experience the same high shortly after.
TH3USUALSUSPECT 8 months ago
@TH3USUALSUSPECT Yeah it wont be the same high but you can get high and people never the less still do it. Especially people addicted to e pills. Youre familiar with ecstasy so you out of anyone should know that if youre an e addict you dont care for waiting weeks or days. Theres ppl that pop 5+ pills a day. My friend in his addiction days took 16 in one day stayed up till the next day then took 4 more. So i mean it is smart to wait a while but depending on the user they might not do that.
reaperofgenocide 8 months ago
@reaperofgenocide
You're still not reading my replies properly, and there's no need to repeat what i have just said.
"Everything can be addicting when not used properly, my point is compared to alcohol, cocaine and other drugs mdma is relatively harmless..but again it depends on the person who uses it."
TH3USUALSUSPECT 8 months ago
@TH3USUALSUSPECT...MDMA changed my life. Completely enlightening.
aemerson0425 6 months ago
Thats joey diaz in the background, cocksucka!!
Thynkfree85 9 months ago
@drbluntphd...so you went to College? Man, I've studied this stuff for FREE!!!!!!! LOL
EricSchwin22 9 months ago
Logic? I majored in Philosophy and minored in Theory (which is logic of mathematics) from Colorado State University. Keep trying to sound intelligent tough guy bahahaha I'm not the one getting butthurt over someone calling it god's plant. Just give up, kid
drbluntphd 9 months ago
@drbluntphd
your name is drbluntphd...
254fds 9 months ago
0:40 - we dont give a fuck rite or wrong! ahha
NiggaWiddaAttitude 10 months ago
@NiggaWiddaAttitude kinda weird how i read that comment as it said that O.o
poopingtoad 9 months ago
@poopingtoad aha yee that kinda stuff happens to me a lot.
NiggaWiddaAttitude 9 months ago
POT , WEED, CANIBUS, HERB, CESS, IS NOT A DRUG ! IT'S GOD'S PLANT !
CLOVERCITYY15 10 months ago
@CLOVERCITYY15 God's plant huh? Another fucking moron spewing bullshit. You would be the last person I would go to for reasoning. Thank your god, we don't have you trying to further legislation on this matter. Amen.
MauiFaka 9 months ago
@MauiFaka clearly youve never smoked marijuana bahahah fucking retard "weed is so bad omg!!! i <3 jesus!"
drbluntphd 9 months ago
@drbluntphd No, clearly my point went over your head. I live in Maui and you assume I don't smoke cannabis(correct spelling btw). Never said weed is bad. Simply stated that your reasoning is beyond doltish. Just stay on mom's couch while the grown ups with logic and reason fight for your right to legalize and decriminalize cannabis. The best you can do is offer prayer, because the minute you speak, the village idiot has made his presence known.
MauiFaka 9 months ago
I remember being a teen and I remember actually being scared to smoke weed. Alot of my friend were straight pot-heads and I used to make excuses not to smoke because the high would just trip my ass off. At the time there were many things that I could not accept in my life (death) and when I would smoke It just opened my mind. Now that I am older I smoke it often and I learn to deal with my thoughts. Marijuana just overall makes me a better person
lerk909 10 months ago 2
Joey Coco Diaz in the backround cocksucka!!!!
DrHarrySeaward 10 months ago
I agree somewhat. But some people do get addicted to the high of smoking marijuana. Its not safe when you smoke it all the time and end up not caring about anything. Also, people. This is a drug. But don't think that doing it every day is not bad or good for you. I really recommended doing it only maybe weekly or more better even just ,monthly. imo
bright5086200 10 months ago
@bright5086200 you only get addicted if you have a addictive personality!
LegalizeIt310 10 months ago
@bright5086200 also marijuana is not a drug, its life its fuckn medication
How many people are enslaved to sugar, coffee, sex, TV and so on!
If you cant control yourself then you shouldn't do it, this life style is not for everyone and like i said its only addictive if you have a addictive traits
LegalizeIt310 10 months ago
@LegalizeIt310 I'm not against a marijuana legalisation, but you seem to be a little wrong here. Whether it's a drug or a medication is defined by the purpose of using it. If you're using it against your never ending migraine, then it's a medication. If you're doing it for the fuddle and just enjoying it then it's clearly a drug, a very good one I just need to add.
buoghuoj 10 months ago
joe rogan is the fuckin man!!!!!!!
kingmansniper23 11 months ago
Watching pineapple express? lol i hear seth rogen.
mike92328 11 months ago
mm drugs are bayd mmmkay
CraigRidley1 11 months ago
Joe Rogan talking about DMT is much more entertaining than this video. He seems to be just wasting time, doesn't seem very interested in what he's talking about.
DMT = much better drug than marijuana, LSD, cocaine, PCP, or scopolamine.
Bagelboy615 11 months ago
@Bagelboy615 hw can u get hold of DMT easily coz it seems like a right hassle making it :-)
CrackFiend100 11 months ago
@CrackFiend100 It's not that hard to make, you just have to know your basic chemistry. For those of you who feel you have the PRIVILEGE to take DMT, you should at least have paid attention in highschool. There are many plants you can extract DMT from, even basic grass.
Bagelboy615 11 months ago
...taking LSD? Make sure they are taking it under safe conditions, with trustworthy, sober people, in a pleasant environment. Do not mix it with other drugs, including prescription drugs. Drink water. Take it in the morning or afternoon, not evening -- otherwise you'll be physically exhausted and have trouble sleeping.
And if you're just using it to get screwed up and "ESCAPE REALITY," you leave them alone. This will ultimately cause fewer problems and avoid scaring them."
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 LOL. Anyone reading this idiot's comments, please consider he is mentally challenged in some way. Razlo5000 supports "Misandry is the hatred of men and boys and it is the last form of socially acceptable bigotry in the western culture."
Sounds like this douche couldn't man up and fulfill his role as a man on this earth, so he's crying like a feminist about it.
dirtbikekid 9 months ago
@dirtkid
LOL, I'm glad our enemies are mental midgets like you.
WAY TO MANGINA DOWN & attack my manhood in a bid to garner the attention & approval of women. How fucking sad are you?! Listen, this won't get you laid pal. real women want MEN, not lapdogs who sell out against their gender by cosigning to femifascist ideologies just to earn a pat on the head & the utterance "good boy". You only think with your small head.
Fighting for equality & what is right IS my role as a man on this earth.
Razlo5000 8 months ago
"Load of crap written by someone who clearly knows nothing about LSD.
There is no such thing as an LSD addict. Upon first discovering LSD, some people experiment with it multiple times in rapid succession. But no one stays with it. It's not a pleasure drug. It's an introspection drug. The exciting thing about the drug is gaining insights into life, the human condition, etc. But that doesn't happen with multiple trips, so interest quickly drops off."
The main thing you can do for someone...
Razlo5000 11 months ago
Anything done in excess is bad.
jaganmaster 11 months ago
Except for the drug abuse, Joe Rogan is awesome!
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 he doesnt abuse drugs he uses them like there supposed to be used. like he said he wants to be enlightened and thats what there meant for.
emdixon1987 1 year ago
@emdixon1987
Drugs are not meant to be used.
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 you probably would of died of a flu years ago if it werent for drugs. drugs are definitely meant to be used. different drugs are for different things.
emdixon1987 1 year ago
@emdixon1987
I'm obviously not talking about prescription drugs. I'm speaking about those that alter your state of mind. Doing cocaine is smoking weed is sniffing glue is doing heroin is sniffing paint fumes is drinking mouthwash is hitting acid. Its all the same to me because the reasons for doing all of these are the same. Tell me, if you got the same effect of smoking weed from poking your brain with a chop stick stuffed up your nose would you do THAT instead? It should all be legalized.
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 i dont think they all should be legalized but things like mushrooms and peyote should be. things like the heroin and cocaine though are examples of drug abuse and the exact reasons why certain things should be illegal. things are all mixed up though when it comes to pharmaceuticals. heroin is illegal when theres much worse opiates you can get via prescription and ritalin does pretty much the exact same thing as coke. i was just saying using psychedelics isnt an example of drug abuse.
emdixon1987 1 year ago
@emdixon1987
It absolutely IS an example of drug abuse and I say if the kids want to eat dirt, let them. Its not like the laws make any difference anyways. People still do weed, heroin, coke, mushrooms, etc despite them being illegal. Just legalize them. Let them fuck up their lives. Who cares? Perhaps a society would emerge from that which would have NO FURTHER DESIRE to WILLFULLY diminish one's cognitive faculties. Ever!
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 we'll just have to agree to disagree i guess
emdixon1987 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 You need to do your research on this topic and stop listening to what the news and your family told you.
I hope with all this preaching you follow a good diet, because that's actually a much bigger killer than all drug use combined.
also forgot to mention, studies have shown that marijuana kills cancer cells whilst not killing regular ones. damn what an evil drug. and the infamous methamphetamine (ice, crystal meth, shard, crank, speed) - also a prescription medication :)
AlexTheLunchBox 1 year ago
@A
"You need to do your research on this topic and stop listening to what the news and your family told you."
HA! A quick glance at my channel will prove beyond doubt that this is what I do on a daily basis.
I absolutely eat right but I'll bet those that don't have problems which are only compounded and worsened by the toxic garbage they inhale and inject into their systems.
"Studies show.." is the most over-used and diluted phrase in society today. No assertions are more valid through its use.
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 Prescription drugs don't alter your state of mind?
Ritalin/Adderall - Amphetamines (SPEED)
Pain Medications - Opiates (Heroin is metabolised into morphine, as is codeine (OTC?))
Cocaine, PCP, Ketamine - Anesthetic.
Medical Marijuana - A lot of medical applications.
MDMA (Ecstasy) LSD (Acid) - Was used in therapy to bring down psychological barriers before they were made illegal. Actually they were so promising, many psychiatrists used it after it was made illegal anyway.
AlexTheLunchBox 1 year ago
@AlexTheLunchBox
We live in a society which thinks throwing prescriptive drugs at "problems" will make them go away. Ritalin & Adderall are two such examples. I don't take either because I have the ultra uncanny ability to stay focused and attentive when I am required to. In addition, I get to sleep at a decent hour so I feel no restlessness the following day.
On rare occasions when I get a headache, I take pain killers like advil but this does not alter my state of mind.
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@A
Marijuana in my view has absolutely no value whatsoever except to escape the harsh realities of life. Same with ecstasy and acid. I would never willfully diminish my brain's ability to function. Not even for an instant. To me, doing weed is absolutely no different than sniffing paint or drinking lysterine and I'm sure some liberal scientists could come up with medical advantages of these if they looked hard enough and wanted to find them.
Its best you do not get me started on psychology.
Razlo5000 1 year ago
@Razlo5000 You sounded like you knew what you were talking about right up until you said that people take acid to escape the harsh realities of life.
You ain't running from shit on psychedelics, in fact, if you have problems in your life psychedelics won't sugar coat them like people they will showcase them right in front of your face, and it's hard to face them.
FYI, I'm not a Joe Rogan fanboy and I don't agree with everything he says.
AlexTheLunchBox 1 year ago
@A
Your experience on acid is greatly dependent on what Timothy Leary referred to as "the set" (the state of mind you go in with). You can control where the acid trip takes you. If you want to focus on a negative thought, then that is the general theme the trip will take. If you choose to focus on positives, (music, having a good time), then the trip goes that route. So, my previous statement was still correct in that you would only want to go on one of these "trips" to escape reality.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Timothy Leary was an experienced user, when you haven't had thousands of trips its harder to control where the direction will go, I don't know why you would thinking people are escaping the harsh realities of life with acid, this is not heroin, cocaine, alcohol or yes even marijuana, which some people do use to escape. but I can't see how acid could be used as an escape route.
And I have nothing against people who don't use drugs, people can do what they like, its their own business.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
What are drug abusers doing if not trying to escape into a world of fantasies? You argue that there are differences behind being fucked up on acid, heroin, coke, etc..? Well what you will have to concede is that the motivations for doing these things are all the same. The desired result is always the same. Inebriation & intoxication. Based on that, doing heroin, coke, or even weed is no different than sniffing paint fumes.
I say legalize all of it. Let them eat poison.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Your syaing alcohol is a safer alternative to other drugs? alcohol is actually TOXIC to the body. And again, you generalise all different types of drugs into one "drugs" alcohol fits into that too, why is that not on the list? What if someone has a puff on a joint and doesnt get completely fucked up, just a light buzz, what I'd image you get when drinking a few beers.
You think you have interesting and unique thoughts sober, try a psychedelic lol
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
You're not listening.
Again, I said that I do not drink to a point that it impairs my judgement. And again, health concerns are almost irrelevant to me. Its all about how it affects your intellectual capacity. On that front, alcohol isn't akin to drugs because after 1 or 2 beers, I still have my full cognitive faculties. I can still think clearly and I am still very much sober. I'm still ME. Escaping into ridiculousness and indulging in mindless "psychedelics" doesn't appeal to me at all.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 "full" cognitive facilities? Yeah right. You don't know anything about your own brain so don't even talk. People say pot makes you "dumb" and use it's effects on memory as proof. What most people dont know is that there have been scientific studies which indicate that THC causes the mind to make stronger, better, more insightful connections between things the user already knows. Look it up, I'm not fucking around.
majicLS9 11 months ago
@majicLS9
I'll tell you this, I probably know more than what your google search tells you.
Doing drugs does not make you smarter, stronger, "better", more insightful, or super human in any way. Of course there are studies out there by so called "scientists" who write their conclusions first and fill in whatever gaps they need to to "prove" their assertions. There are also many studies out there that confirm drugs inhibit and alter the way your brain works. Put down the spray paint & read a book.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 no YOU read a book. You brushed off something I said like it was a lie because you dont agree with it. Arrogant asshole. Open your fucking mind
majicLS9 11 months ago
@m
I brushed it aside because i've encountered this ridiculously stupid argument a million times before. I KNOW its bullshit. This is the same typical nonsense that DOPE HEADS keep telling themselves to convince them that what they're doing is harmless and even good for you. Getting fucked up is not something to be proud of. You should be ashamed of it. Its why I say legalize everything. We should live in a society where nobody would WANT to do something so dumb. "Open" MY mind?! HA!
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 How do you know? Did you read the studies?
all I have to say is stay in church cause the real world is SCAAAARRRRYYYYY
majicLS9 11 months ago
@m
I HAVE read such studies actually. For the sake of veracity, I do not just read and study the sides I agree with.
I know exactly what drugs are, what they do, and the effects they have. I am never going to dumb myself down just to be entertained for a short period of time. Where is the maturity in that? Those people that partake in this are sad and pathetic people. Clearly, you're the one escaping the "SCAAAARRRRYYYYY" world. I keep a sharp mind at all times.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Obviously your not that sharp, because if you were, you could appreciate the fact that until you've seen it first-hand, then you have no right to talk. You keep saying mindless, but you don't know the half of it. You don't even know what it means to have a mind.
Study your chemistry because there is no such substance as "drugs". The many different substances that your immature mind considers "drugs" have many different properties and affect your mind very differently.
majicLS9 11 months ago
@majicLS9
Ah, the old "don't knock it till you try it" mentality.
Bonehead, sometimes one doesn't need to touch the stove top to know its hot. Especially if you can see the surface element is burning bright red.
In addition, you serial disassembler, moving to insult somebody is no way to win an argument or convince someone that come over to your side. All you've proven is that clearly debating this topic is the last thing you want to do.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 How could you know what it even means for something to be hot until you've been burned? Actually felt the burn? You don't. You can know a description of what the feeling is, but you won't know the feeling.
Win your side? Obviously no one will. Youve been posting your "YOU ARE ALL WRONG" crap on this video constantly. Maybe if you smoked some weed, you'd realize how petty and stupid everything you are being. It's like you are trying to convince yourself... sad. Go outside
majicLS9 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Look, at the end of the day you're the one whose gonna reach the end of your life having not experienced MANY beautiful things. Which is fine by me, but stop spreading your crappy propaganda around, government scientists lie to you. For example; the ecstasy study that said it put holes in your brain, the study that moved it to the emergency ban list, incorrect because the scientists 'accidentally' gave the monkeys methamphetamine instead of MDMA.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
What you call "beautiful" I call abuse.
What "crappy propaganda" am I spreading around exactly? That one should think highly enough of their own unique thoughts as to never want to willfully debilitate their mind's ability to form them?
Don't worry, I don't give government studies any clout whatsoever. (Again, see my channel). I understand there are a lot of bullshit studies on both sides. I take everything with a grain of salt and I do not use these for the basis of my beliefs at all.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Also the marijuana study that said it causes brain damage? False.
The scientists strapped a gas mask on these monkeys and pumped thousands and thousands times the regular dosage into them. But that's not what caused the brain damage, they didn't give these monkeys oxygen for minutes at a time. Now, I'm not exactly qualified here, so I don't know if this is true, but I've heard from a friend of a friend's sisters friends auntie that no oxygen = brain damage...dunno if it's true though.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
If there is one thing my hundreds of hours of studying feminist propaganda has proven, its that the phrase "studies show.." is worth its weight in dried up dog shit these days.
The most powerful thing known to man is the human mind. Its the ultimate super computer.
When somebody choking on smoke hands me a tiny piece of rolled up toilet paper and says with squinting red eyes;
"Try this man, it will fuck you up"
My first inclination is to say F-off you degenerate weakling. I'm proud to be ME!
Razlo5000 11 months ago
the definition of abuse is: "misuse: improper or excessive use"
So you're saying that people who use drugs a few times in their life are abusing them? someone who uses psychedelics or MDMA say, once a year or so are abusing them?
Like I've said you don't escape anything on psychedelics, and you would know that if you have done any research whatsoever. I don't believe you have.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
I'm saying that those who use drugs (DRUGS by the way, I'm not talking about advil or allegra) are misusing, and improperly abusing their brains. This is the case EVERY time. This is the case regardless of the number of times a person does this a year, a month, or a in a week. You are willfully debilitating your mind with the sole intention of getting "fucked up". Thats abuse. I'm repeating myself here.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@A
"Acid FOR SURE, man if u wanna have more visuals, hallucinations, feel energetic then try LSD, in my opinion LSD is better than -shrooms.
I recommend you to take the acid in an open place, the sky is the FUCK when u r tripping, i've tried lot of times LSD & i have tripped AMAZING with the sky(clouds, stars, moon)-----> WUAAA ;Þ u really feel that u r drugged; i tried Hoffman and MichelAngels acids most of the times and they r fuckin' great!"
What is this person doing if not escaping reality?
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@A
A fantastic program linked here:
"topdocumentaryfilms(dot)com/the-beyond-within/
assets:
LSD was something young people used "seeking spiritual transcendence and a means of ESCAPE from the conventional world."
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 "seeking spiritual transcendence and a means of ESCAPE from the conventional world." this is someones opinion. But yes LSD does take you out of reality at a high enough dose, doesn't mean you escape it, saying escape means your running from it, if you run from your problems using drugs then yes, it's abuse. like ive said many many times. You don't escape anything on LSD, if you don't agree with that then you are babbling about things you don't understand.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
Wait just a minute. You claimed I didn't know what I was talking about and didn't understand drugs, yet here is somebody who DOES use drugs and admits acid is used as a means of escape. So even if YOU do not perceive acid to be a means of escaping reality, others clearly do. So it also then opens up the possibility that you yourself are actually escaping reality but do not/are not willing to accept this as the truth.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@A
One quote which incapsulates my perspective perfectly as to why LSD (and drugs) are wrong is:
"They are the attempt to have:
Rights without duties.
Claims without responsibilities
Pleasure without cost.
The real cost of having any peaceful enjoyment of the world is that one maintains institutions and makes a sacrifice to preserve one's inheritance. This is something the young people of the 60's were reluctant to do. LSD ministered to that reluctance."
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 "It's not a pleasure drug. It's an introspection drug" exactly.
And I never said there weren't people just wanting to get fucked up. Show me proof that LSD damages the brain? as in the molecule itself.
It can bring out mental disorders in people **who already have them** so in that sense yes, it will give a person schizophrenia if they were already going to get it.
Other than that, it has no negative effects. The experience itself can change people, usually for the better...
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
"It's not a pleasure drug. It's an introspection drug" -"exactly".
You think this justifies its usage? One can have an introspection without fucking with their brain's ability to function.
The fact LSD can bring out mental disorders is another valid point, but my argument does not hinge on the long term affects of the drug. Its the immediate act of willfully debilitating your unique mind. How many times have I said this now? Either you don't understand or you're refusing to accept this.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 "Its the immediate act of willfully debilitating your unique mind. How many times have I said this now?"
I'm not going to say anything else until you show me proof. I want to see some hard evidence that the LSD molecule debilitates your mind, outside of the effects the user seeks. (meaning once it's worn off)
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
"debilitates your mind, outside of the effects the user seeks. (meaning once it's worn off)"
Aside from the effects the user seeks?! You've just said it yourself. The effects one seeks is escaping reality & being fucked up. (I've already proven escape was one motivation for taking it). Even though its temporary, THATS my aversion to it.
Again, watch the documentary "The Beyond Within" at Topdocumentaryfilms(dot)com.
Observe the girl at 19:19 and tell me she is functioning at her mental peek.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Again, show me scientific proof that LSD causes neurotoxicity to an otherwise healthy person...You gonna keep beating around the bush avoiding my question or not?
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@AlexTheLunchBox
Your question is moot.
By neurotoxicity you mean basically damage or long term effects. My argument has never been about the damage or long term effects of drugs. Not saying there isn't any, there may or may not be.
Once again,
Its THE ACT of willfully debilitating your brains ability to function at its peek. EVEN IF your brain eventually returns to full capacity with NO ill effects afterwards, it is the foolish and idiotic act of "mind masturbation" that my aversion stems from.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Everything is a drug, what about native asians eating the Ephedra plant as a medicine?contains Ephedrine, a stimulant and precursor to amphetamine, is that classed as an escape? What about L-tyrosine in Turkeys? Makes you sleepy, and also metabolises into 5-HTP and then Serotonin, should we ban the eating of turkeys? Your argument is silly because things aren't as black and white as you make it out to be. EVERYTHING you eat changes brain function.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@AlexThLunchBox
Oh, here we go with the "everything is a drug" argument.
Are you seriously going to sit there & try to argue that smoking weed, hitting acid, doing shrooms, sniffing crack, sniffing glue, etc, etc, is no different than eating turkey?
Are you high?
After I eat turkey, I MIGHT get a little drowse, but I can still think straight. I am still in full control of my complete cognitive faculties. My eyes are not blood shot & my perceptions are not tainted in the least.
What else you got?
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Well then going by your argument, a small amount of amphetamine is great for everyone because it improves concentration, reflexes etc... no loss of cognitive ability, in fact an improvement.
The turkey vs other 'hard' drugs is exaggeration on both side, to point out that there is no line between bad drug and good drug. they all have positive and negative effects. like my ephedra argument, which was a more powerful argument than the turkey, but you completely ignored it.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 also, your having a go at me because I compared turkeys and other drugs?
Your the one comparing smoking Marijuana and sniffing paint.
You have shown you have no knowlede of anything you are talking about other than silly propaganda and the southern ideology "drugs are bad". You have no idea what you're on, comparing weed to paint. yeah man, have a go at me for pointing out turkeys have chemicals which alter brain chemistry. Fuck me...
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 there is no temporary when it comes to lsd
sickstar14 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Why are you saying that LSD, DMT, shrooms and that stuff is bad? Is it because the school, your parents and society told you they are? Every ancient culture used drugs in one or another way. It's not necessarily a way to escape from your problems or whatsoever, but rather a way of experimentation and discovery of new ideas, thoughts and/or feelings. What you are used to due to your senses isn't everything, life isn't a fucking script, you know, you can try new stuff if you want to.
Bedulonko 11 months ago
@B
My lack of desire to debilitate my mind is not the result of what school, parents, or anything or anybody in society tells me. It's a decision I have made by myself.
Im my opinion there is NOTHING more powerful than the human mind. Willfully reducing one's unique cognitive abilities is incomprehensible to me. Why would you do such a thing?! Even for one second. Aren't you proud of who you are naturally? I'm only interesting in expanding my knowledge and experiencing life through MY eyes.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 ..." I remained in shock at the power of the anger inside me. And something about seeing it, about facing it, permanently burned up a lot of anger inside me. Before that night, I was a total asshole to a lot of people. After that night…I was different."
LSD and other psychedelics are very mysterious, some of the best music and pieces of art were made on them...
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
If this person came to this realization from their own sober introspection, it would be far more rewarding.
You cannot attribute some famous music and art solely to the influence of LSD. Most of the best human accomplishments were done by men with clear, focused, & sober minds. Beethoven, Mozart, the channel "Pinegrove33", the book War & Peace, the moon landing, internet technology, etc...
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Psychedelics change the way you think while your on them. Did you know the person who discovered the double helix structure of DNA was under the influence of LSD, he won a Nobel prize and has undoubtedly saved many many many many lives.
MDMA has possible neurotoxic effects when used quite regularly, as does alcohol though. If people want to use MDMA every weekend and fuck themselves up I don't care. But it's essentially harmless when used properly, as everything is.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
If you throw enough of this at the wall eventually something is going to stick. Sure some achievements might have come about through some cosmic coincidence that wouldn't have if not for the influence of drugs but what about the uncountable number of people who either wasted their lives or threw away their potential &/or killed themselves as a result of abusing drugs. Who knows what we've missed out on or where we'd be if these people chose intelligent pursuits over getting "fucked up".
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 At the end of the day, you're clearly into the whole "it's ok to drink your drug" mentality. I never denied that drugs can dop damage, but damage from alcohol is on par, if not worse than that of most drugs.
Your also categorizing users into "drug abusers" and "drug abusers". Not everyone abuses drugs, some people use them recreationaly and only recreationly. You're generalizations are terrible.
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
At the end of the day, I do not sacrifice my brain's ability to function at its peek for the sake of a "trip". When I DO drink I exercise restraint, willpower, and control to drink only a small amount. At no time do I lose my fullest cognitive ability.
If you use drugs, you're willfully abusing your brain. This is true 100% of the time.
Please explain the difference between smoking weed and sniffing spray paint.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 huffing (not "sniffing") paint is inhaling toxic volatile fumes, which actually poison your nervous system and kills your brain cells. The "high" is lightheadedness from neural injury. Not at all what THC does to you
majicLS9 11 months ago
@majicLS9
But the experience is the same. The motivations for doing both, are the same.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 The experience is NOT the same
the motivations for doing both are NOT the same
majicLS9 11 months ago
@majicLS9
.....and? You planning on proving these assertions?
How are they different?
Razlo5000 11 months ago
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@Razlo5000 I dont have to prove anything, you're the dumbass who thinks a plant and a volatile organic compound do the same thing to you!!
Idiot. Use your common sense
majicLS9 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 you asserted in the same fashion so dont be a hypocrite.
What do I have to "prove"? You've already revealed yourself to be in a completely ignorant state of mind by saying that a plant and a volatile organic compound "have the same experience" and "are no different from each other"
It doesn't matter anyway because you don't belong commenting on this video. It's completely obvious that you have never done any psychadelic, nor should you. You wouldn't be able to handle it.
majicLS9 11 months ago
@m
I've been around more than a few drug users. I have yet to see one of them say one thing deeply intelligent while high. In fact, all I've ever seen of such people is mindless giggling and utter astonishment at NOTHING. It is obvious to anybody who DOESN'T willfully debilitate their own brain just for mindless entertainment that drugs only hinder one's mature, intelligent thought processes.
Wouldn't be able to handle it?! I see, its one of those: "Your IQ must be THIS LOW to ride" deals.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 That is a reflection of the dumbasses you surround yourself with, nothing more. Birds of a feather flock together, I suppose...
majicLS9 11 months ago
@majicLS9
Clearly not, as I am obviously the odd man out in these scenarios. But I'm sure those YOU choose to gather and communally get trashed with are intellectual giants.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Actually yes, I only associate myself with intelligent people.
Who said we communally get trashed? You're such a flip-flopper. You say whatever will make you look best on a post-for-post basis. One reply you made indicated that you were trying to have a rational debate. Now you want to give me a bunch of sarcasm and stereotype me, which is no part of rational debate. Only you thinks you're right because you say whatever makes you right.
majicLS9 11 months ago
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@majicLS9
""er dah Acid fun acid fun acid way fun".......I so hope one of you have a bad tripp, then you really see how fun ACID is, DAMN IT! Treat this Drug with Respect!
"er dah acid is spiritual i da meet da gawd. daaah"
what are you talking about, acid IS fun!"
"intelligent people" huh? But I'm sure you and you're friends are nothing like that right?
"Only you thinks you're right because you say whatever makes you right."
I rest my case.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 If you have a bad trip, its because you've got some guilt on your conscience. Maybe you didn't realize it, because your ego was doing everything it can to protect you from what you, deep down, know. Drugs like acid and mushrooms force you to stare directly into your psychological issues by pulling them straight into your conscious train of thought, awakening your moral spirit. This is what's known as "ego-death" and it scares a lot of weak willed people.
majicLS9 11 months ago
@m
What about those people who think they are invincible & get themselves and/or others killed? Were those "bad trips"?
I would describe drugs users as the weak willed people. There is nothing that drugs provide you which you are not capable of doing fully aware and sober. Getting "fucked up" is never a solution. It is the second wrong that doesn't make a right. Face your issues head on & with a clear mind. Endure through strength of will and a total unwillingness to accept failure.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 The propaganda wheel has been spun again...
I'm done talking to you. Goodbye
majicLS9 11 months ago
@majicLS9
What propaganda wheel are you talking about?
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 Lolololol. Someone here's a Mormon! <3
Bagelboy615 11 months ago
@Bagelboy615
Not me pal.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 "There is nothing that drugs provide you which you are not capable of doing fully aware and sober"... Of course there are things that drugs provide you, not all of them are good things and it depends entirely on your perspective and point of view. I'm not takling about crack, heroin and that shit. Your senses make you feel some determinated thing, so does your brain. But there are many thing you are not capable to percieve and that's were drugs come in. They are not an escape.
Bedulonko 11 months ago
@B
I contest that drugs ARE an escape & I've provided an example of 1 abuser who agrees.
The motivations for doing all drugs are the same. Inhibiting your cognitive faculties, distorting your perceptions, or achieving an unnatural state of mind. None of these appeal to me. I would never want to be anything than what I am right now. Since those fucked up on drugs display a serious regression in intellectual capacity, I'm less than interested in what drugs supposedly provide if that is the cost.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000
Yes I'll admit that drugs are a form of escape. So is a vacation from your job. There is nothing wrong with trying to take your mind off of the stresses of life from time to time. If a person does drugs all the time, then it's no longer an escape, it's avoidance of life and responsibility. There is a huge difference.
kirvin2 11 months ago
@kirvin2
The difference is this; When you escape from your job and go on vacation, you're still YOU. You are coping with stress in a normal and healthy way. Your mind is intact the entire time. When you escape reality through the use of drugs, you attenuate your mind. Only somebody with zero pride in themselves and who they are would do something so egregiously shameful and stupid.
Using drugs is a puerile act of idiocy.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000
I don't condone the use of anything other than marijuana. When you use marijuana, your mind is not silenced or attenuated as you put it. In fact it stimulates your mind. It allows you to consider things you may not have thought of while straight. It stimulates creativity. It's not anything shameful at all. You shouldn't call something stupid if you have no first hand knowledge in it. If marijuana is not for you then that's great. It's your choice. I won't call you stupid for it.
kirvin2 11 months ago
@kirvin2
You're trying to justify weed as being a small harmless exception to the rule. It is not. People high on weed certainly do not look "stimulated" or "creative" and they absolutely do not demonstrate a higher level of perception. When they aren't coughing profusely, some have described weed as lowering your minds expectations so that even simple and ordinary things are extremely complex & interesting.
To willingly do this to yourself, IS an act of idiocy. No different than sniffing paint.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000
I'm telling you from experience and you offer what you say is someone else's experience and expect me to believe what you say someone else has said trumps my own experience? You're insane. To willingly try to to convince one that thier experiences didn't happen IS AN ACT OF IDIOCY.
kirvin2 11 months ago
@kirvin2
Your experiences are irrelevant. Whatever you experience while masturbating your mind says nothing to my point. Your mind does not gain from the experience of abusing drugs. While fucked up, your cognitive abilities are hindered and your perceptions are distorted. This is the effect drugs have on human beings, including yourself. Guess what-you're special, just like everybody else. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Its why I say LEGALIZE ALL OF IT. Let them fuck themselves up.
Razlo5000 10 months ago
@Razlo5000 do you drink coffee, soda, or take advil
ltdex400guitarist 11 months ago
@ltdex400guitarist
I do not drink coffee, and I drink soda about as frequently as I drink alcohol (which is very rarely and in small portions). I'll take advil on the rare occasion that I get a severe headache.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 I've taken ecstasya few times over a 2 year period, going by your logic I took it to escape the harsh realities of my life. I actually did it to have a great fucking time, which I did. I didn't go overboard, I don't do it regular so each time I have woken up feeling great. no comedown whatsoever, peoples body reacts differently though, so I guess I'm lucky.
Can I ask you, Have you ever done drugs? you have no idea what it's like.
Go look at Marijuana in the treatment of MS.
AlexTheLunchBox 1 year ago
@A
I never accused you of being a Joe Rogan fanboy and it wouldn't make any difference if you were.
No I have never done drugs because, again, I would never willfully diminish my brain's ability to function. Not even for an instant. I can have a great fucking time with my full cognitive abilities. In fact, I insist upon it. I'm aware that there are countless articles out there by people who want to sell the idea that weed is either harmless, good for you or even a miracle cure. Its just not so.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
@Razlo5000 I was just pointing out that I wasn't cause they don't usually have their own opinions.
I'm not saying weed is harmless, it can impair mental abilities when used every day for a long period of time, i've seen it happen, i've also seen it not happen. however when they took a break, they were back to normal within 2 weeks to a month. Alcohol abuse is a lot more detrimental to your health and cognitive ability than marijuana abuse, I've seen both first hand. Should it be legalised?
AlexTheLunchBox 11 months ago
@A
Alcohol IS legal (& should be) but I do not drink to a point that it impairs my judgement. I also don't reject drugs solely for the health reasons. In fact, health factors are almost irrelevant. The bulk of the reason I reject drugs is because of what they take from me; my full cognitive ability. Hindering my unique thoughts and my untrammeled mind in favor of being "fucked up" for a while seems juvenile & ludicrous. Ergo, I'm disappointed that Joe Rogan doesn't see that.
Razlo5000 11 months ago
Joe Rogan for president.
keklolgloat 1 year ago
\m/ joe is fuckin coo
211for11 1 year ago
aahh okay that explains allot ... allot damn bully
litletortilaboy 1 year ago
hes blazed
BIGSK8 1 year ago
I thought that was joey diaz in the background
plutoend99 1 year ago
ive smoke marijuana more than 365 days in a row, nothing happens except i get really good ideas. it enhances my imagination to create ideas for movies writing comic books video games etc. its medicine, food, clothing, and actually cleans more carbon emissions than trees do. so if we want to save our planet from global warming. we must go green....weed green that is
sk8boardn101 1 year ago
i only do drugs and alcohol, thats it
jayfiver 1 year ago
I wonder why he does not mention what exactly this "other shit" is? I suspect some kind of steroids.
116Bears 1 year ago 2
The only proof you need pot doesn't make you stupid.
Carl Sagan.
I rest my case.
ronrutherford 1 year ago
I think weed is the only safe high out there. For sure at least, I mean mushrooms and LSD can have a pretty dramatic effect. The magnitude of the effect depends on the individuals who partake in using those drugs. I'm pretty sure you can't overdose on any of those drugs but they can mess things up in your brain. Marijuana has some very slight negative effects as well. But it's very mild that a occasional user won't feel at all. Now if you smoke that like 24/7 that's something else. Since u SMOKE
vboytan 1 year ago
wait did he say that shrooms can't kill you? you can get bad shroom man...a girl in my school died because of them
mattymo56 1 year ago
anyone have weed?
damainmane123 1 year ago
Joe, you'd do heroin if you want some real perspective. It trumps all other drugs.
bcgabriot 1 year ago
@bcgabriot
I upped your comment, because I kind of agree, but good LSD is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more enjoyable (better crash effects too).
116Bears 1 year ago
How can you classify heroin with cigarettes? Are you that stupid Joe?
kats63139 1 year ago
@kats63139 He was just stating substances that have similar habits of abuse. Just because they have different effects doesn't mean they are abused less than others or don't cause the same amount of damage. But if you want to argue cigarettes kill more people than opiads do by far, so good point in making yourself a idiot.
wagner416 1 year ago
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@wagner416 I am talking about the addiction factor moron, did you even watch the video? Clearly you want suck his ass or something, so good for you. On a different note, where did you learn grammar? "So good point in making yourself a idiot?" "Just because they have different effects doesn't mean they are abused less than others or don't cause the same amount of damage." Learn the english language and punctuation first, then come and insult me.
kats63139 1 year ago
@kats63139 The point being made was simple. When people revert to grammar lessons as a come back insult it blows my mind. More people are addicted to nicotine than opiads. Also you should probably proof read your post before making insults on someone elses post.
wagner416 1 year ago
lol there's no way I would do shrooms man ... I'd bug the fuck out and kill someone ... might come down and realize I've been stabbing a stop sign with my iPod for 8 hours or think crazy jedi rapists are out to get me ... I'd be freaking the fuck out! ... I fucking hate star wars
sJeGaJn 1 year ago
Joe rogan is my fukin idol he's funny fights and does pot and shrooms haha
Brennanbenjamin 1 year ago
Is he in a college dorm room?
aroff595 1 year ago
1:03-1:11 best comment ever. Joe Rogans the man
JoeyTHEArms 1 year ago
the only thing dangerous is the drug cartels and the people that kill for it . I agree that marijuana isn't bad but i've seen friends fuck up their lives with a joint.
Hansoloburger 1 year ago