COSMOS: The Shores of the Cosmic Ocean (Part 6 - 6)

[inconsp1cuous1515]

i wish i could time travel... id love to go back to that time to meet the early humans and bring carl sagan with me -- and be like, "we are what you'll evolve to look like hundreds of thousands of years from now. be like this guy: ask questions and be skeptic. and when you see these *pulls out a bible and a qu'ran* do NOT fucking fall for it.*shreds them up*"

[MrNance91]

was that big hand pointing at that tree the hand of god,

[zanegwhite]

Mind = blown

[jadagod]

This is awesome, I just heard they're remaking this, I hope they keep the same music! Does anyone know what it's called?

[emelianenkoo]

@jadagod Vangelis - Heaven and Hell

jump to 5.20

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[jadagod]

@emelianenkoo absolute legend! thank you!

[british123able]

me and sagan go way back, we are/was old buddies

[IsleFreeThinker1]

I am not a religious man, but if a man were to be given the title 'Prophet'; that man's name would be Carl Sagan

[joppadoni]

such a sad loss :(

[BillF1967]

To me, the notion of our memories occupying such a small part of space and time is more humbling, and yet more exhilirating, than any tale of Biblical gardens, talking serpents, great floods, or Bronze Age myth making.

[zenzombie72]

To go boldly where no man has gone before, despite the split-infinitive.

[RJL738]

It's true we need to learn as much as we can about the universe.

[FreetoSC]

I like the death of the universe the way I like my women. Cold and distant

[daeymz]

I enjoyed this

[xpinay4lifex]

I have to watch this for Psychology. Can anyone tell me how this is relevant to Psychology?

[shkotay]

@xpinay4lifex Watch the processes of science and discovery Sagan talks about. The same rules apply to psychology as they do to physics. Thats just one of many ways you can draw a link here. In fact I cant think of a better way to get the basics that apply to all science down then to watch this series.

[calmsnowfall]

@xpinay4lifex

Carl Sagan is relevant to everything.

[FaithForLife1990]

That cosmic calender is mind blaasssting

[MrDazza1964]

i watched this in the early 80s and it is just as amazinz as it was then 30 years ago quite simply awsome ..

[xxDrudgeryReportxx]

Religion stifles thought.

[rnata86]

Wow Carl Sagan should have gotten his history straight, he either purposely or unknowingly erased a 1400 year gap; from the time the library of Alexandria was destroyed till the European renaissance. his claim that the Europeans "rediscovered" the knowledge of the ancient Greeks is so wrong. it was the Arabs who built upon this knowledge and added a lot of new scientific discoveries to it before passing it on to the Europeans through Spain and Sicily.

[shkotay]

@rnata86 I think they know a bit more of history as well too now then back then, but he was also referring to euopean civilization mostly during the dark ages. On top of that the middle east and china, while having technical progress were also crippled by religious and political strife. How incredibly advanced have the people of the middle east been now scientifically if it werent for religion? Europe and North America ask the same question of their own pasts.

[kurtjk01]

The first colony on Mars should be called Sagantown. I'm just saying . . .

[Jammed9000]

@kurtjk01

Why not simply "Sagan"?

[kurtjk01]

@Jammed9000 Aesthetics, mainly. It could be "Saganopolis," "Sagan City," "Saganville," or simply "Sagan." I just like "Sagantown" best, I suppose; but I'd be happy of any permutation.

[Jammed9000]

@kurtjk01

If we find another planet with life I would name it either Pandora or Sagan.

[kurtjk01]

@Jammed9000 Not a fan of Avatar, but I'd be happy to back you up on naming a planet after Carl. Heck, I hope we find enough to honor all the great dreamers, scientists, and other worlds that our imaginations have provided us. For example: Heinlein, Kepler, Barsoom, etc., etc.

[danthemanzizzle]

United states doesnt even give health care to its own citizens yet north Korea does.

Kim Jong il > US presidents. im so glad we value super richness more than life.

[kurtjk01]

@danthemanzizzle I'm sorry you are such a damned fool as to think that is true. The free market, properly goverened, is the greatest asset to human growth there is. Super richness *is* life; you need to educate yourself beyond the socialist/communist lies and the truth of the matter will become clear. North Korea bettter than the USA? Put down the crack pipe and get real.

[danthemanzizzle]

@kurtjk01 ok so in theory the free market gives incentive to people to work hard, make money, and beat the competitors, this is good. but so many Americans cant afford day care or stay home to give their kids proper "early education" because they wouldnt be able to handle their asthma medication expenses, or any number of other expenses your left with in the us. why do you think the is is the center of the stock market crash? because those rich fags all took cuts n your mortgage, fuck head.

[kurtjk01]

@danthemanzizzle The stock market crashed because the artifical bubble created by Barney Frank et. al. was no longer sustainable. Medicine is expensive here because of two factors: insurance companies (which I would love to see gone), and because all the innovation which produces new medicines, new technologies, cost money. The free market works, period; not just "in theory." If you like NK so much, go live there.

[danthemanzizzle]

@kurtjk01 nah, id like it there if i was born there, thats why they love it, I love being able to educate myself, without guidelines or restrictions on the internet, and to be free to buy goods from china, india, japan, and so on, you just have to pick a country which has the best brand of modern liberalism to suite your taste, there isnt a perfect way in my opinion. im just glad to be born into one i am quite fond of, the Canadian system.

[kurtjk01]

@danthemanzizzle North Koreans are starving, under one of the most brutally repressive regimes in the world, and many individuals have attempted to get into the South. So no, they don't like it there; unless they are of high ranking military or a particular family named "Kim." They're not "liberal" in any democratic sense of the word. And what you love is exactly what a free market system provides.

[danthemanzizzle]

@kurtjk01 wow the us should invade and stop that shit, spend another amount of money that is greatly more that whats needed to keep every kid in the world from starving but theyre too in debt now. they have to go new-zealand style for a while. bring back the excess corperate profit tax! that shit only trickles down into 15 super rich executives pockets not the middle class! i guess im a bit off topic but whatevs...

[kurtjk01]

@danthemanzizzle Yes, you are off-topic. Not to mention that you need a deeper understanding of economics and geo-politics. I will say this, and be done: I would be grateful for any nation which would sacrifice its youth in order to help free me and my family, regardless of the cost; ask the Kurds, ask the Afghani women, if those invasions were "worth" it. Capitalism, democracy, and science produce wealth, liberty, and health. Other systems do not. Period, and demonstrably so.

[infinitenight2093]

perfect. just perfect.

[rohitaudipudi]

We miss you Carl!! 50,000 years later, our descendants are going to thank him for his help to humanity to survive without destroying itself!!!

[Kamicolod]

Sagan sounds like the bad guy in that movie The Matrix.

[Astrapsody]

@Kamicolod I'd say "Agent Smith" sounds like Sagan, not the other way around. But, nevertheless, what a great series. It's amazing how rapidly the human race appears to have advanced on the cosmic time scale.

[DandAinTac]

Great series. I have it on VHS, but the tapes are wearing out. Good to find it on You Tube. Does anyone know if anything Sagan presented in this 1980 miniseries has hence been proven completely wrong? I know much can now be added, and he even did an update in the late 80s to add new information? But has anything been completely overturned that was presented as a fact in this series?

[sciencesuccess]

Carl Sagan's explanation of the cosmic calendar is one of the biggest eye openers that has helped me understand our place in the 15-billion-year history of the universe. I also respect him for trying to help humanity through some of the toughest years in its history during the Cold War.

[markjbautista]

I shed a tear. I came to know Carl Sagan because of the movie "Contact". I am so filled with humility right now knowing that compared to the greatness and vastness of the cosmos, we are but only a single, insignificant speck of dust. :-)

[Bondianwolf]

Only 13,000 views in over 2 years. While (2 girls and a cup) gets 13 million views in less than a month. Mega-sigh.

[zharrok]

@Bondianwolf We are pathetic aren´t we?

[Bondianwolf]

@zharrok

Our worst flaw is our inability to choose leaders with integrity. Also, to detach ourselves from the "cult of personality" that rules our decision-making.

[zharrok]

@Bondianwolf It is not only that my friend, we can choose a good leader he/she gets the power, and then what? if he/she is not smart enough to make good desitions the system will corrupt him it always happen.

We Humans neet to take a step radically enough to change our way of thinking, we are so immature and ignorant, we are at some few steps next to our own destruction, but we don´t see that the media washes our brains every day.

¿Don´t you think?

[Bondianwolf]

@zharrok

The most important of the radical steps of which you speak would be to teach people not to be sheeple. Obviously this is difficult as we would need to convince children that being honorable is more important than being popular. But with the explosion of reality programming and sites like the one we are on right now, Andy Warhol's prediction has come true and more and more people are competing for their 15 minutes by mimicking what they see on MTV's Jackass, or on porn channels. :(

[freebiescrap]

@Bondianwolf Yup, and Sagan knew that. So he took up the endeavor of programming the reality himself. Only, unlike the MTV, Jackass or porn channels Sagan wasn't lazy enough to lie to the people. He spoke the truth and that is more demanding.

All this other crap is more successful only because there is so much more of it, and that is because it is easier to make.

Only solution I see is to cure the mental laziness. Weed helps, but it's not a panacea. Anyway, I'd start with getting everybody high

[OneWorldHistory]

@freebiescrap I agree with you and Bondianwolf.

However... it is worthy to note that Cosmos has been seen by over 500 million people.

And those aren't just repeated 'hits', but actual viewings by individual people.

500 million. A sizable percentage of anyone who has lived in the last 30 years.

It's really pretty impressive.

I think anyone watching this would agree, Dr. Sagan has had phenomenal impact on the way our species views ourselves and our world.

[Bondianwolf]

@freebiescrap

Did Sagan ever say everyone should get high? Could you provide a link to that quote?

[heroineadict]

This is some pretty deep shit, lol. I agree with MagartheCurly, I'm speechless. It's funny how I can't even think of anything to say about the video, it's asinine that it overloads the imagination and comprehension for it is impossible. Everything we know about humans seems so pathetic and worthless knowing how small and new we are to the universe.

[Swiftlygothedays]

Oh man. I wish I had $70-$80 something to spend on the Cosmos complete set. One of the first things I'm doing after I graduate and get a real job. I can ask my parents for cash, but I really wanna buy this with my own money.

[MogartheCurly]

i'm kinda tripping balls, kinda tearing up, and kinda speechless.

[Jimpsterr]

Excellent video, I'm sad that it is over.

Thank you for posting this!

[pseudoBearmode]

The outro of this episode is almost euphoric

[kmiroshkhin]

Was it only me, or did I see disgust in Carl Sagan's eyes when he was referring to the dark ages?

[chubas41]

@kmiroshkhin it's you, i make him more open-minded than that

[Peacemaker8310]

The problems arise when people on any one side of the religion vs. science or God vs. atheism arguments become so stubborn that they stop listening openly to other people's ideas. It happens with atheists, christians, muslims, and everyone else. People become too closed minded to learn anything new! As long as people keep questioning why we are here and searching for answers one way or another with OPEN minds, human beings will continue to be successful.

[inconsp1cuous1515]

@Peacemaker8310 agreed; "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" -Aristotle

[Peacemaker8310]

Right on Electrosquid! Furthermore, the concepts of religion and science are not necessarily mutually exclusive. God is just a name we give to a power, a misunderstood force in the universe. Isn't that much of what we try to understand in our scientific hypotheses? I believe in God AND Science. God doesn't have to be about magic and lightning bolts....its about giving a name to the constant human quest for knowledge and understanding of something MUCH bigger than ourselves.

[xNeverthought]

Brilliantly put.

[MogartheCurly]

@Peacemaker8310

i dig that man, i dig it.

[megamanacses]

People who believe in religion don't deserve to call out their shitty opinions on whether or not god made lightning bolts and magic to create the universe.

[ultraudv]

@angolancamel if i tell u that i talked to God and he gave me some stones written about the truth of the cosmos, would you belive me ? i think not, then how come u think that there's a "God" out there? , knowledge is the key

[electrosquid]

Sagan was not an idiot; he used the term agnostic to define his own personal beliefs.

Defining yourself as an Atheist brings forth the same sort of baggage Christian belief system have, faith, in this case; faith that there is nothing out there, the concept of god has not been proven, nor disproven, and Sagan tackled this concept with intellect.

[Deadity]

If we consider the Greek use of the word, then atheist is simply non-theist. Anyone who is not a theist (a person with a belief in god's existence) is an atheist.

[electrosquid]

@HORNhost

Sure there is, they are a bunch of people preaching atheism just as intensely as evangelical Christians preaching the literal interpretation of the bible; who see their own personal role in the world as spreading their own interpretation of what existence is or means, or what is written in a book that converted them into this line of thought to begin with.

I seriously do not see a difference between the two.

[electrosquid]

Also I made the term "evangelical atheist" up to illustrate a point, I guess it's completely irrelevant since its not used commonplace, or within some dictionary somewhere, or used in a book/essay written by Sagan or Dawkins.

[Sk82beast]

*clap* *clap*

[cartmanSPP]

We need to embrace life and knowledge- knowledge which has fostered human life since its emergence. We need to stop embracing death- and the fantasies that it promises to us.

[mandolinroad]

I'm amazed that there are people who seriously have time and energy to debate after watching this wonderful documentary about facts, science and human curiosity. Where are y'all from - America? Religilous loons debating on youtube are usually american, that's why I'm asking. It's 2010 in 4 days and you ppl are stil around. Wow

[ryanspeed]

@mandolinroad

Religious loons from America...usually American!?

I'm an American Catholic but I don't consider myself an "American religious loon"! We're not ALL religious loons in America so don't just arbitrarily make that a blanket statement. Religious fanatics are found everywhere in the world...even in Sweden!

[mandolinroad]

Oh yes, absolutely. But I didn't say you're all loons. I know several americans who are very non-loony indeed. But when people are arguing on clips such as this (or anything else connected to science and/or atheism), the conservative religious ones are ALWAYS americans. Only in America is it still controversial to talk about science and atheism. It's really strange, don't you think?

[kmiroshkhin]

@mandolinroad

it's really sad if you ask me. :-)

[CamLiv]

Unflinching respect for the facts, however disquieting they may be", is not what Sagan showed towards any facts outside materialism. His late book Demon-Haunted World was a checklist of doctrine, it actually opens with a long things to close your mind to.

[HORNHost]

@CamLiv In a universe that is made of matter ("material") and energy, what other facts can there be?

One of the most persistent, pernicious problems of the 21st century C.E. is the ongoing confusion between "belief" and "knowledge." The substitution of "belief" for knowledge is a path to almost certain destruction.

[foobee2]

@CamLiv "Facts outside fo materialism". I can only assume that you mean by this "spiritual facts". But that of course is an oxymoron. If you don't know why, well then it won't be much use to try and tell you.

[devourerofbabies]

"Facts outside materialism" is an oxymoron.

[chrhye]

awesome!!!

[electrosquid]

Seriously though, that was one fucking horrible post dude, your seething bitterness towards a perspective of looking at the universe, other than your own, was kind of astounding for someone watching a documentary about how extraordinary the universe really is.

It's been over 24 hours and Im still in disbelief at your level of moronic pretension.

I feel like throwing a bible at you just to watch you foam at the mouth and have an epileptic fit over its very existence.

[electrosquid]

This is one of the most horrible posts Ive ever had to endure, and then ponder on:

It reveals an ugly glimpse within your mind and its misunderstanding of the concept, the wide variety of forms and meanings behind belief systems that have been forged for thousands of years within human culture, and a lack of acceptance of its strong presence within human consciousness, beyond your childlike image of religion and angst towards it.

Evangelical Atheists are no better than evangelical Christians

[HORNHost]

@electrosquid Tired old argument. No such thing as an "evangelical atheist."

[phoenix11994466]

This awareness makes a mockery of primitive beliefs and the superstitions, we know as "Religion". As in the past, religion is simply a convenient crutch for primitive thinkers to explain the mysteries of life.

Even though I pity these ignorant fools, I cannot forgive their laziness, lack of foresight and courage, to confront their false belief systems.

It explains the division between the true enlightened, & those lacking confidence, & condemned to believe that Gods make all things.

[rosewind26]

My main comment for this video (I try to comment on all to show support) is somewhat less serious do you think any of those people who first saw the expansion thought "oh great, as if we weren't already tiny" or something like that.

My comment for the episode is thank you, my parents have made it clear that I would benifit from watching cosmos however I can (and are in support of free media) I am so glad to have found this, it does not disappoint.

[00chenders01]

Thank you Carl Sagan -a real asset to the human species.

[connect2reality]

@00chenders01 Finally I found someone who said species instead of race.

[thefrostflyer]

If we could fill our schools and Universities with teachers like this God could finally rest!

[0Vossk0]

Carl Sagan was a strong agnostic atheist. God wouldn't be too happy.

[festusthefiend]

My view of God is this: God is not a politician, he does not need Ass-kissers, or people to scrabble around on their knees. to make him feel important. If there can be such a thing as making God happy, it would be people using the facuties they were gifted with.

[ananiasacts]

Yeah, but what if god is a psychotic bully like the scriptures depict?  How are you going to get to spend eternity with him if you don't suck up enough now?

[festusthefiend]

True, which brings us to the core of the problem: I can believe one thing and someone else can believe something else. Trying to force someone to believe something else just does not work. And if a vengeful god (as it says in the old testament) is pulled in by fake belief, that would make him stupid. Somehow I dont think anyone believes in a stupid god... but you then again some people are very stupid themselvs.

[ananiasacts]

Well, technically they claim to believe it, but they behave as if they don't. So I don't buy their bullshit. If they actually believed it they'd have no thought for the 'morrow, as Jesus demands. Wealth would embarrass them. They're just looking for a way to feel better about their pathetic selfish selves by dreaming about what goodness might be like. Very very few are actually anything but greedy worthless assholes that only feign belief because they're scared hell could be a possibility.

[ananiasacts]

The first commandment proves you're just wrong about god. He is a jealous cowardly bully--a lot like the people who worship him.

[srogers210]

Carl was soo brilliant and elegant in the way he captured and held our attention with his poetry of science.. he will definitely be missed.

Thankfully we have Neil degrasse Tyson.

[torontoBluejays87]

@srogers210 And Lawrence Krauss! haha. :)

[highlanderclan]

Cloudy, most teachers are'nt that bright, they are arrogant & in it for the money & easy work. Carl and men like him were sincerely passionate about what they did and believed in. They were visionaries who tested the boundries of conventional thinking. He was one of the gifted few, only a handful come around each century to share their wisdom. A true Scholar with great understanding of the universe and compassion for his fellow man. He will me missed. Spread the word of the prophet - Carl Sagan.

[rjproie]

Only questions that are born from free inquiry are particularly good responses. Questions born from ignorance don't help anything. The fact that someone doesn't understand the Big Bang, or why we immunize children, or that 9/11 wasn't a government conspiracy, doesn't mean their questions are valid.

By all means, continue questioning everything, but do it because you want to know the real answers, not because you don't like them.

[cookiecache2]

His hair and outfit changed :O

[metallicaX100]

i dont understand how they say theres a big bang how did they know thats how the universe came forth i honestly dont know and i doubt they do either....

[alienmode]

go watch a metallica video you dumbass

[metafication]

you are literally retarded

[cookiecache2]

I just can't imagine why "metallicaX100" doesn't understand...

[1N4M3]

They know that the galaxy's are moving away from each other, meaning that some time in the past they were closer together, and once were all at one point. That's the basic principle.

[cshabsin]

metallicaX100: he doesn't really have time in a one hour show to explain all the evidence they've collected to promote the big bang theory. There's a lot to read out there that helps teach this. Try "A Brief History of Time".

Everyone else: don't attack someone just for asking questions. He's right; there isn't any evidence presented here to back up the theory... and asking questions is the right response, the scientific response, to unsubstantiated claims.

Keep asking questions!

[janjust]

Well, because by observing the solar systems of our and other galaxies we can conclude that everything is expanding, in fact, we can conclude that their trajectories all originated from a single point. This means that ALL the matter within the universe was condensed at that one single point.

[kingsman565]

There was no matter in the universe at the point of the big bang, all that awsome stuff like atoms & mass didn't come about until much later.

[janjust]

You are correct sir, (I should have been more careful) and said there was energy in the form of light aka. photons from which matter later developed. But in any case, the point was the trajectory observance (if you can call it that).

Thanks for the correction :)

[kingsman565]

No problem, and thank's for not getting offended at my statement. But what's pushing all that matter away from each other if there was no mass at the beginning of the universe? after all you can't move a beachball with light & radiowave's.

[janjust]

just a fyi I'm not a physicist, this is information is from my own research. To sum it up, you are correct that there was not "matter" but there was energy, densely packed which when the explosion happened converted some of that energy into matter. Highly energized photons can create more massive particles protons and neutrons. That said, when we say the universe is expanding we actually mean stretching. I'll be glad to discuss more over pvt given the char limitation.

[DarthServo]

Go take some classes on the subject. If you have the intelligence to understand the material.

[daytonagirl91]

We miss you, Carl. I hope you got your wish and are sifting through the thousands of volumes in the library of Alexandra.

[vandonridge]

Does somebody know what's the name of the space song between 3:08 - 4:46 in this part of the video?

[questionsleadtotruth]

"We are the legacy of 15 billion years of cosmic evolution. We have a choice, we can enhance life and come to know the universe that made us, or we can squander of 15 billion year heritage in meaningless self-desturction."

Thats it man, its all said right there.....

[questionsleadtotruth]

WOW so ahead of his time. Way to go Carl. His last few words are so true, and humbling.

[funkality]

UbiQuitOus sTaTe of SiNGuLarITy

NeThiUs.....

[subzerotime420]

R.I.P. Carl.

[m0r1arty]

Thanks for uploading this.

[cloudy4ever]

Carl Sagan is one of the true visionaries of the human race...like Keppler, Galileo, Newton and Einstein. Why couldn't I have a teacher like Sagan when I was young? Where do such men and women come from? I miss him very much.

[dude8742]

thanks for uploading this

[Dorfkanal]

This is beautiful. It brings science together with a spiritual feeling and admiration about the universe - without religious gibberish. Love the passage when he says that we are way of the universe to become aware of itself.

[GuardianAngelX20]

that was a big momengt for me too. how can you help but to smile as you realize what he is suggesting. =)

[BadYahweh]

Absolutely wonderful and humbling.

[OneillSG7]

Wow, this is absolutely amazing to watch. I doubt Carl ever would of thought his entire series on the Cosmos would end up here, in a computerized digital repository of video. Leaving this world in 1996 he would of seen the Internet but only in it's infancy.

Thanks for uploading nethius, a wonderful series to watch.

[SaganAppreciationSoc]

Actually the net was pretty active in the early 80's. Usenet goes back to 1981 IIRC.

And i think Carl probably suspected just such a thing could happen. He digged libraries, and he got the binary thing.

[maxell121]

this series is a part of history

[7anmv]

He Will Go Down In History Along With Galileo,

Tycho Brahe, Einstein And The Incredible Stephen Hawkins. I Miss His Wisdom.

[lankhazard]

When carl sagan talks about the universe he puts everything into perfect perspective, the way he says matter, given time and energy condenses into life. We are a way for the universe to know itself. Carl Sagan like the astronomers of old will still be relevant in a thousand years.

[adeadlysniper]

This is absolutely spectacular, thank you so much for uploading these videos Nethius. You've shared Carl Sagan's legacy with us; it is the work of a scientific visionary, and perhaps the sanest man who walked this planet.

[CamiloSanchez1979]

hey nethius, attach all those episodes together somehow, provide links or do something. Thanks for posting but the mess is unbelievable. And Sagan kicks ass, i will see u in heaven.

[nethius]

Been meaning to make a playlist... In the meantime, here are the other 2 episodes that are up. Search full title and they should pop up on top.

COSMOS Travellers Tales

COSMOS The Harmony of the Worlds

[CamiloSanchez1979]

thank you buddy

[3LARI]

@nethius CamiloSanchez... ungrateful twunt. Thanks for posting these mate

[terrasidius]

excellent!

[toolbox58]

Just listen and Learn!

[RobAlone]

Made a playlist. Hope you don't get Viacommed.