Rumi Poem 1

[tezol21]

@ Eluesha

It is not just to brand Rumi as one who rejected Islam. At later years of his life he was filled with love. The love of the Almighty. You need to know Rumi to understand his path. He was not like a flake of hay on the water.

Go deeper in Rumi's thoughts and forget politics!

[Greenlntern]

"I am the servant of the Qur'an as long as I have life. I am the dust on the path of Muhammad, the Chosen One. If anyone quotes anything except this from my sayings, I am quit of him and outraged by these words."-Jalal ud-Din Rumi

In his poetry he describes the universal message of love, that it transcends all barriers.

[Eleusha]

@Greenlntern : A servant can not judge or think for himself a dust can not think.

Yes Molana Rumi was first started as a Muslim You are calling one of his early poems, but leather he discovered the truth about falsehood if Islam, and actually reject the Islam, as many Iranian after learning about Islam did reject it.

this is not only Molana and many of Iranian poets started as muslem but later rejecting it, as Hafez which and many more, actually Hafez recite Quran from memory and later reject it

[Greenlntern]

@Eleusha Rejected Islam..That is just wishful thinking on your part. Scholars of his work unanimously agree he was a sufi. His works on Muhammed show that he is better than most of us claiming to be Muslim.

"There has never been a beauty like that of a (Prophet like)

Muhammad in this world or the next. May the Glory of God help

him!"

"Since, although he is from (among) us, he doesn't resemble us. We

are entirely (like) copper, and Muhammad is (like) the (alchemical)

elixir."-Jalal ud-Din Rumi

[Eleusha]

@Greenlntern

آنها که به سر؛ در طلب کعبه دویدند چون عاقبت الامر به مقصود رسیدند

از سنگ یکی خانه اعلای معظم

اندر وسط وادی بی زرع بدیدند

رفتند در آن خانه که بینند خدا را

بسیار بجستند خدا را و ندیدند

[Eleusha]

چون معتکف خانه شدند از سر تکلیف

ناگاه خطابی هم از آن خانه شنیدند

کای خانه پرستان؛ چه پرستید گل و سنگ آن خانه پرستید که پاکان طلبیدند

آن خانه دل و خانه خدا واحد مطلق

خرم دل آنها که در آن خانه خزیدند

مانند الف راست برفتند به لبیک

آنها که در این خانه چو گردون بخمیدند

[Eleusha]

بر خطّه آن مشعر وحدت چو گذشتند

خط لمن الملک بر اغیار کشیدند

حزبی که بجز سنگ؛ ره از خانه ندیدندپ

چون حزب شیاطین ز در حق برمیدند

[Eleusha]

@Greenlntern : Now Grasp and understand this poem my Molana Rumi if you can and don't say something which you have no idea about.

[artistdigital]

@Eleusha Study "Tassawaf/Sufism" and you may understand his state from his poetry! Context is important brother! :)

[ChicagoRosePianist]

I do not use my energy to think about where Rumi originally came from. Instead, I use my energy to absorb his teachings and apply them to my life.

[shahab1234561]

Can everyone just realize that Rumi belongs to all humanity. This identity politics is sickening.

[ehsanicastle]

can u stop claiming that rumi is persian plz, he was born in afghanistan, every one knows his birth places which is mazar in north of afghanistan. stilling other countries cultures just shows how loser u persian are.

[Eleusha]

ehsani: May i ask what is the original language of Rumi's poems?

My friend why you are ignoring the fact That Afghanistan Was Part of Grater Persia and in the time of Molana(Rumi) it was not any country by the name of Afghanistan in existence.

Molana was From Greater Khorasan Part of Greater Iran and That's a Fact Learn to accept it.

Payandeh Tamami Parsi Zabanan.

[ehsanicastle]

the original language of rumi is dari, even in iranian books the dari language known as mother languege of farsi. it doesn't matter if u making the rumi's videos or songs in farsi that's good and i like it too, but that is fact he was born in Afghanistan. ya ur right there was not Afghanistan but when two countries seprate from each other every one blongs to where they born to. And in the past with afghanistan n iran together was great persia but now just iran.

[Eleusha]

ehsanicastle: dear Friend You are talking about "Dari", but just search in Wikipedia yourself to see what are they saying about Dari: Dari is a historical name for the Persian language, and yes They separated us, but i see you as our brothers and closest family to us Other Iranian, as sometimes brothers get separated too, but there bound never get broken.

[hmspervasive]

You are a bit mistaken my friend. Afghanistan was just a province of Iran. Rumi' s language is persian. Even if he went to china he would remain Iranian. As for Dari goes, you are right completely, languages grow and become modern, but Dari in afghanistan today has no relation to old Dari and its a misnomer. Afghani Dari is made of a mixture of Pashto, tajik and Hindi, French, Russianand some old dari words today with no gramatical resemblance to Rumi's Dari. Modern Iranian Farsi is much closer

[ehsanicastle]

Eeusha, dr is evidance of rumi's birth place, u can find it in Wikipedia.

According to tradition, Rumi was born in Balkh, Khorasan (now in Afghanistan), the hometown of his father's family.

[Eleusha]

ehsanicastle :Dear friend I know about birth place of Molana(Rumi), but what i am trying to say is, "we are one", and it's not much difference between Persians And people of Greater Khorasan, we talk the same language(Parsi), we are from same race(Aryan), we are one nation we are bonded historically which got separated with Passing of time, we are proud of many knowledgeable people from khorasan which are pride of our nation, Iranian and afghans and tajiks, people of greater khorasan and Iran.

[Eleusha]

The Other thing is The name of "Iran" First Was used in Avesta and Regveda as the term (Land of Aryans). so it's not New name and It can be the name of Afghanistan too because Afghans are Aryan As Iranians Originally are So it's no difference between us.

[peaceloverful]

Thank you for this. Your videos are gorgeous and speak the truth :)

Peace, Love & Light ♥

[iamnrhn]

Thanks for putting this video up. (=

[natsareth]

Very nice video, love the poem.

It would be better to get the pictures away, people should appriciate Rumi for who he was, one who loved Allah, not a woman like in the paintings :P

[ezsarah]

The central theme and message in Rumi's poems is the smelting of human into the creator by unconditional love - what results in the reunion of human and divine - leading to the consequence that every being is from divine origin, what mankind has forgotten. Being aware of the entity of creator and creation the man, which understood himself as an separated individual begins to awake feeling that the creator has taken place in the human. So the man becomes to the center of his own wheel of life.

[bijanboxtub]

voice over ,shohrah aghdashlo

[ilikethis01]

Hallo Ochsenburg, are you a German ???C Because your name sound ... ;-)

[Ochsenburg]

Thanks , I know Rumi wrote in Farsi

[Ochsenburg]

Mighty music - great! Which diverse languages do the female and the male speaker use??

[AzadehIran]

They Use Persian, the original language witch Rumi used in his poems.

[Ochsenburg]

The central theme and message in Rumi's poems is the smelting of human into the creator by unconditional love - what results in the reunion of human and divine - leading to the consequence that every being is from divine origin, what mankind has forgotten. Being aware of the entity of creator and creation the man, which understood himself as an separated individual begins to awake feeling that the creator has taken place in the human. So the man becomes to the center of his own wheel of life.

[Golnazbanoo]

Great :)

[kamranat11]

Great work

[bijanboxtub]

All iranian  culturs are exposed to rumi as heritag this is nice versn with iranian fav entrtmnt diva shohrah aghdashloo? beautiful voice over

[KohsaarTv]

This really is a beautiful ...thanks for the upload :) Mavlana Jalaluddin Balkhi Rumi(September 30, 1207--December 17, 1273)was born in Balkh (then a city of Greater Khorasan in Persia, now part of Afghanistan) and died in Konya (in present-day Turkey). His birthplace and native language/local dialogue indicates a Persian heritage.

[ilikethis01]

NO SIR/Lady

this is the reality, if you don't accepted, that's your problem.

[Zartosht777]

ilikethis01:

You believe in what you believe....

But Molana says it clearly in his poems.

[artistdigital]

@Zartosht777 For that you have to understand Sufism! Where he(ra) says that he(ra) doesn't belong to anything, speaks of a state that overtakes the Sufis, called "Jazb" or "Fana Fil Haqq" ie "Absorbed in Divinity". In this state everything disappears only the Being of God is remains, and then there is another state that overtakes them, its "Baqa", in which the Sufi feels that he is everything, and the there is another state called "Laqa" both existent and non existent, and that their r only 2 be

[ilikethis01]

Rumi was and is popular for his universal love and tolerance thats ture, but his mysticl teachings based on 3 important things ; 1.the Koran 2. the Greek philosophie 3. wisdoms of India.

Of course there are lots of passages, were he negate religious differences, but his particular relationship to Islam and Allah is the important one.We don't understand Rumi, if we negate this particularty, that make his uniqueness.

[Eleusha]

Nor am I confined to Creation, nor the Throne Celestial

Not of ancient promises, nor of future prophecy

Not of hellish anguish, nor of paradisic ecstasy

Neither the progeny of Adam, nor Eve

Nor of the world of heavenly make-believe

My place is the no-place

My image is without face

Neither of body nor the soul

I am of the Divine Whole.

[Eleusha]

I am neither of the West nor the East

Not of the ocean, nor an earthly beast

I am neither a natural wonder

Nor from the stars yonder

Neither flesh of dust, nor wind inspire

Nor water in veins, nor made of fire

I am neither an earthly carpet,

nor gems terrestrial

[Eleusha]

Why think thus O men of piety

I have returned to sobriety

I am neither a Moslem nor a Hindu

I am not Christian, Zoroastrian, nor Jew

[ilikethis01]

@ Eleusha

"I understand he didn't belong to any place or any religion,"

WHATTTTTTT ????

Your statement shows, that you don't know Maulana, he was and is one of the biggest islam sufis ever. Every poem of him tells something about his relationship to god (Allah). His name Maulana is a islamic title and meens = our master.

[Eleusha]

What is the miraj? Non-existence.

The religion and creed of the lovers

is non- existence.

Rumi

[Zartosht777]

ilikethis01: My ignorant Frind first read his poem and understand it.

چه تدبیر ای مسلمانان که من خودرا نمیدانم

نه ترسا و یهودیم نه گبرم نه مسلمانم

[Zartosht777]

This is not for discussing Rumi's ethnicity, nationality. These offer nothing in the way of insight into his poetry.

All future comments referring to nationality, etc. will be deleted.

[charlotte946]

@Zartosht777 even tough i can only read the lines but dont understand the words i find it beautiful, just beautiful. would you know where i could get the poems of tumi in english . . .or may be. . .even german.

thank you so much

[Nasser90santour]

Afghanistan was a part of Iran on that time so ...

[NearestDelia]

9/30/1207

born 770 years before me.. I love Rumi

[solcuba]

thank you. It is important that every body know this beautiful poems, and the culture that him represent

[Eleusha]

goran00 : OOH you ignorant people piss me off, as you know my afghan brother, Afghanistan was part of Persia, so he born in balkh(Persia) he traveled a lot and he died in current turkey, but that time turkey didn't exist, from his poems I understand he didn't belong to any place or any religion, so please instead of fighting over where he was from understand his great poems. And if you read his poems you understand he was from eternity and went to eternity.

[ShaghayeghGil]

Thanks a lot!