@LolMSowner I have driven many of the trails in Moab, like Elephant Hill, Fins & Things, Gemini Bridges, Top of the World, Bartlett Overlook, Klondike Bluffs, Sevenmile Rim, etc. I also have done Broken Arrow and a few others in Sedona.
I can't wait next September to drive with Harold down and up the Rubicon Trail. That drive will be fantastic. I will celebrate my 40th anniversary this way! Thanks for sharing your trip.
What an interesting and talented person you are. I can't imagine doing that myself, but hat's off to you on such great driving and professional videography. Very impressive! Do you have to put constant maintenance into keeping the wheels, hubs & suspension repaired and in proper alignment? Thanks for the video!
@AlpineJoy Thanks for the comments. I was using a Jeep provided by the outfitter. Properly driven, a Jeep, or any other off-road vehicle, will sustain very little damage. It is improper driving technique, like driving too fast, or spinning wheels, or turning a wheel against a fixed object, that causes wheel, driveline and suspension damage. The outfitter told me that he has been driving the Rubicon for 20 years and has never damaged a vehicle component.
@Dodgeoffroadfreak I have always used rental Jeeps that were prepared for the intended trails. Unfortunately, the trainer I hired for the Rubicon provided almost nothing in the way of how to judge what equipment and setup is needed based on the obstacles you will encounter. All he did was show how and when to use a locker.
Very nice tutorial! Nice articulation, too… hard to tell on YouTube, but looked like you had disconnects – but they were connected. What’s your secret? (usually don’t post questions, but that’s what happens when you make a good “training” video) ;)
@devonjerome I was guided by an outfitter, so I am not fully familiar with all the alternate routes. I do know we took easier routes around the extreme obstacles like Little Sluice. We made it all the way to Rubicon Springs and back with the modified Jeep Rubicon shown in the video.
@devonjerome Yeah, most of the time there are bypasses. Like when he went through Old Sluice Box, I was supprised that he didn't take the Slabs bypass. My jeep ain't built up enough to go through it yet.
Though I drove it with an auto trans, I prefer the tighter engine braking you get with a manual transmission and good low gearing. With an auto, you use the brakes more, sometimes even working against the engine to modulate power. You should go with whichever type of transmission you are most skilled with. Just make sure you have good ground clearance and very low gearing. A GPS and waypoints of the trail are a must.
Did I miss something? Where is Cadillac hill & the lookout? The trail runs from Loon Lake to Lake Tahoe. I understand the 4 days but the trail is 2 day at worse. 1Day most times but everyone looks to camp overnight, usually Friday night at Loon Lake or Buck Island Lake, Saturday night at the Rubicon Springs ($15 / 3 days camp fee...privately owned), and come out on the Lake Tahoe side on Sunday. For anyone planning a trip here, look for trail closures end of July / beginning of August.
It was an out-and-back trip and included drive time from Georgetown to Loon lake the 1st day, Loon Lake to Buck Island the 2nd day, Buck Island Lake to Rubicon Springs and back to Buck Island Lake the 3rd day. Buck Island Lake to Georgetown the last day. That was the route chosen by the instructor. Travel was slow because the instructor's style was to creep very slowly, walking speed, most of the trail, and to take frequent breaks.
The worst part is Old Sluice Box. It can only be driven with a heavily modified and very high clearance rig. There is a bypass, though. The biggest problem with The Rubicon is that it is not well marked, so you can easily get off-trail without a guide or a track-log from someone that has driven it. You might find a tracklog online. Unfortunately, my GPS overwrote my tracklog before I could download it to my PC.
I keep it in 4-wheel low to take advantage of gearing power going up and engine braking coming down. The Jeep I used on the Rubicon was an automatic, so engine braking wasn't as good as with a manual, so I had to also use the brakes when going down slopes.
nice jeep, thanks for sharing! feel free to check out the east coast vids I have! no where near as informative as yours!
schizm99 1 week ago
And I thought that my TJ was the only one to screech like a monster offroad ;)
nice vid.
7H3S3cr37W0RD 4 months ago
THANK YOU for a great video and sharing your tips and experience. Thumbs up.
EkspatVos 6 months ago
excellent job Aldo!
77uhlen 6 months ago
i really like the way you explained all the details... and you said youve done some other trailing like this before ...on which trails?? =)
LolMSowner 9 months ago
@LolMSowner I have driven many of the trails in Moab, like Elephant Hill, Fins & Things, Gemini Bridges, Top of the World, Bartlett Overlook, Klondike Bluffs, Sevenmile Rim, etc. I also have done Broken Arrow and a few others in Sedona.
AVontheTube 8 months ago
@AVontheTube could i do what you did without lockers?
Dodgeoffroadfreak 8 months ago
@Dodgeoffroadfreak Because of the many irregular obstacles, lockers are mandatory to make it through the Rubicon.
AVontheTube 8 months ago
@Dodgeoffroadfreak Hell no. Gotta have lockers
AllTheNewStuff1 7 months ago
Y'all went UP Old Sluice Box?! Hell, I ain't never been down it! I always take the slabs bypass. I need lockers and 35's.
BrentwoodRedneck 10 months ago
I can't wait next September to drive with Harold down and up the Rubicon Trail. That drive will be fantastic. I will celebrate my 40th anniversary this way! Thanks for sharing your trip.
NorthMan0007 10 months ago
Not just jeeps drive on the rubicon.
kenichols29 10 months ago
A very good tip... always take someone who knows the trail.
jeep98xtreme 11 months ago
Very nice video, beautiful scenery !
jsrnf 1 year ago
What an interesting and talented person you are. I can't imagine doing that myself, but hat's off to you on such great driving and professional videography. Very impressive! Do you have to put constant maintenance into keeping the wheels, hubs & suspension repaired and in proper alignment? Thanks for the video!
AlpineJoy 1 year ago
@AlpineJoy Thanks for the comments. I was using a Jeep provided by the outfitter. Properly driven, a Jeep, or any other off-road vehicle, will sustain very little damage. It is improper driving technique, like driving too fast, or spinning wheels, or turning a wheel against a fixed object, that causes wheel, driveline and suspension damage. The outfitter told me that he has been driving the Rubicon for 20 years and has never damaged a vehicle component.
AVontheTube 1 year ago
@AVontheTube will my short arm 4 inch lift with 35 inch tires and a body lift get as much articulation as that jeep? i have a tj btw
Dodgeoffroadfreak 8 months ago
@Dodgeoffroadfreak I have always used rental Jeeps that were prepared for the intended trails. Unfortunately, the trainer I hired for the Rubicon provided almost nothing in the way of how to judge what equipment and setup is needed based on the obstacles you will encounter. All he did was show how and when to use a locker.
AVontheTube 8 months ago
Very educational and nice driving by the way.
JUDGExNOCTURNAL 1 year ago
Very nice tutorial! Nice articulation, too… hard to tell on YouTube, but looked like you had disconnects – but they were connected. What’s your secret? (usually don’t post questions, but that’s what happens when you make a good “training” video) ;)
pdlong123456789 1 year ago
Great information nice video.
craig18547 1 year ago
How much money did you put into your jeep??? And what size lift????
RCSCALECRAWLER 1 year ago
@RCSCALECRAWLER The Jeep was a 1999 Wrangler TJ automatic rented from an outfitter. I don't recall the amount of the lift.
AVontheTube 1 year ago
sick jeep!!!! great video too!!!
RCSCALECRAWLER 1 year ago
Really good video showing the parts of the trail seldom shown on video
samiam2714 1 year ago
Great video, great narration! What gps unit are you using?
SuspectD3vice 1 year ago
@SuspectD3vice Thanks for the comments. I used a Garmin 60CSx. Great GPS unit!
AVontheTube 1 year ago
How do you guys refuel while you're out there?
You said it was a four day trip, does that mean on the trip was spent entirely on the trail? Or did you head in town to fuel?
It's hard to believe a couple gas cans can quench a team of two jeeps for four days.
chrisman324 1 year ago
@chrisman324 It is only 12 miles each way. We did not have to refuel.
AVontheTube 1 year ago
@AVontheTube Is there ways around the harder obstacles on the trail?-
devonjerome 1 year ago
@devonjerome I was guided by an outfitter, so I am not fully familiar with all the alternate routes. I do know we took easier routes around the extreme obstacles like Little Sluice. We made it all the way to Rubicon Springs and back with the modified Jeep Rubicon shown in the video.
AVontheTube 1 year ago
@devonjerome Yeah, most of the time there are bypasses. Like when he went through Old Sluice Box, I was supprised that he didn't take the Slabs bypass. My jeep ain't built up enough to go through it yet.
BrentwoodRedneck 10 months ago
there is a lot of tough terrain there, but I saw a stock geo tracker with diff locks do the whole thing
snakebite11b1 2 years ago
It's not stock if it has diff locks.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Great video
rexdlu 2 years ago
Really great footage, great editing. Thanks for sharing.
OutdoorIdaho 2 years ago
How would i know what gear to select. Would i use 1st low range if i wanted slow speed control.
mollyandtiger 2 years ago
i took my buggy there and got it stuck on damn near everything... it was fun till i flipped it...
quadguy112895 2 years ago
What better Auto Tran or Manual Tran on the Reb for soon here I hope to make it
jlockuptj 2 years ago
Though I drove it with an auto trans, I prefer the tighter engine braking you get with a manual transmission and good low gearing. With an auto, you use the brakes more, sometimes even working against the engine to modulate power. You should go with whichever type of transmission you are most skilled with. Just make sure you have good ground clearance and very low gearing. A GPS and waypoints of the trail are a must.
AVontheTube 2 years ago
Good ground clearance and very low gearing? I think my 1972 VW Bus might make it :D
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Nice video.
nathan61984 2 years ago
Nice production, really done well. I like the content too ;).
johnnyLikeVideo 2 years ago
Did I miss something? Where is Cadillac hill & the lookout? The trail runs from Loon Lake to Lake Tahoe. I understand the 4 days but the trail is 2 day at worse. 1Day most times but everyone looks to camp overnight, usually Friday night at Loon Lake or Buck Island Lake, Saturday night at the Rubicon Springs ($15 / 3 days camp fee...privately owned), and come out on the Lake Tahoe side on Sunday. For anyone planning a trip here, look for trail closures end of July / beginning of August.
4x4granny 2 years ago
It was an out-and-back trip and included drive time from Georgetown to Loon lake the 1st day, Loon Lake to Buck Island the 2nd day, Buck Island Lake to Rubicon Springs and back to Buck Island Lake the 3rd day. Buck Island Lake to Georgetown the last day. That was the route chosen by the instructor. Travel was slow because the instructor's style was to creep very slowly, walking speed, most of the trail, and to take frequent breaks.
AVontheTube 2 years ago
Haha at 4:23 the mirror rubs. That was a little close
nethingwwheels 2 years ago
Good video- thanks
eponeto 2 years ago 2
Great advice thanks. The trail doesn't look to bad Ill have to try it one of these days. Is there any really bad parts?
rayme07 2 years ago
The worst part is Old Sluice Box. It can only be driven with a heavily modified and very high clearance rig. There is a bypass, though. The biggest problem with The Rubicon is that it is not well marked, so you can easily get off-trail without a guide or a track-log from someone that has driven it. You might find a tracklog online. Unfortunately, my GPS overwrote my tracklog before I could download it to my PC.
AVontheTube 2 years ago
Thanks
rayme07 2 years ago
So when u where rock crawling you are in 1st low range.
mollyandtiger 2 years ago
Yes, 1st gear, low range 4 wheel. And, when necessary, front and/or rear lockers as I mention in the video.
AVontheTube 2 years ago
Do u only use 1st low when you are rock crawling and decending steep slopes.
mollyandtiger 2 years ago
I keep it in 4-wheel low to take advantage of gearing power going up and engine braking coming down. The Jeep I used on the Rubicon was an automatic, so engine braking wasn't as good as with a manual, so I had to also use the brakes when going down slopes.
AVontheTube 2 years ago
great video and great tips, thanks!
mysername 2 years ago
Best overview of the Rubicon Trail I've seen so far.
polarbz 2 years ago