Kush janë "grekët" dhe Greqia (dokumenta origjinale)

[montaninio]

@Aryanadate

where you read this story? The Pelasgians lives in today Greece and Anatolia Turkey coast not in Albania. The ancient Hellenes was many tribes like the Illyrians too. They have in common the language, the culture and a blood relation going back to mythology. You know that Kadmos from Theba going with his wife in very old age to today Albania and there was born theyre son Illyrios, te father of the Illyrians. Ancient Greeks and Illyrians have the same roots

[montaninio]

Today the children of Albanian immigrants play football with Greek children together and go to school and grow up together, they dont think like us because they have pure hearts. If we look in history Greeks and Albanians have many simmilarities and our nation meet all over of thousand years, in mythical times with Kadmos from Thebes and Illyrios his son,after this with the Greek colonies in Albanian coast,roman empire as soldiers of Rome, middleages with the Arvanites come over in Greece

[montaninio]

You wont to learn real history then ask real historians who was the ancient Greeks and who was the Illyrians,who are the modern Greeks and Albanians, not Greek and not Albanian propagandists,educatd historians that are neutral and speak with facts. In Greece we dont know nothing about Albania only that our Grandfathers fight there the Italians ins 2.WW. After the 1990 Hodja open the prisons and many criminal from Albania come over in Greece, so you become bad name.

[montaninio]

@MsDc88 I ome from Epirus, my fathers village is 30 km north of Joannina in the mountains. We are real Epirotes and all of my ancestors speak Greek and feel Greek. Epiros population is 250.000 and before the second world war 150-200.000.The chams number was 20.000 and they deported to Albania becauese they were the colaboratores of Nazis,show with finger to other Epirotes and say he fights against German,the Chams all times in history cooperate with Ottoman and after this with Italian and German

[montaninio]

I have answer to you about Epirus and many things but the creator ofi this videos delete my answers. I write real facts and situation.Accept the truth or stay scared and live with lies

[MrEglisard]

@montaninio I found insulting words on your comments.

If you want to discuss, OK, but no insults.

[PAWASHUPA]

Neve po na intereson qata helen kush kan qen fis Helen prej nga e kan prej ardhjen ,.

[MsDc88]

@montaninio 50.000 orthodox and muslims Cams of a population from 75.000 because the rest of the 25.000

15.000 Vlachs Aromuns

10.000 greek

[MrRevolution79]

E gjithe historia e heleneve eshte nje fabrikim, jane nje komb i perzier ku jevgu martohet me bullgarin me rumunin dhe femija eshte pasardhes i Aleksandrit. Kujt ia tregojne keto perralla, keto mund ti besojne vetem njerezit qe nuk duan tia dijne per historine e tyre. Per rracen time flet Aristidh Kola dhe tregon qe ishin krenare qe ishin rrace bardhe dhe nu merrnin urdhra nga askush.

[Dardenea006]

Ishte kenaqsi me shiqu kete video. Eshte e sakte, qe Greket identifikohen me fene, perderisa ne identifikohemi me gjake dhe me komb. Koha e shqiptarve ka ardh, se shpejti do ndryshojn shume sende. Kurse Greket bota ka fillu t'i njoh. Nuk kemi nevoj me shku shume larg, per me pa qe greket NUK jane popull etnik. Mjafton t'i sheh disa prej tyre edhe e vren qe jane TE PERZIER. Aty gjene njerz qe duken si shqiptar, si sllav, si turko-arab etj. Kosova e pret bashkimin kombetar sa me shpejt!!

[DaimonaC]

cameria and north epiros is GREEK

[MrEglisard]

@DaimonaC

GREEK?! You are not a nation, you are just a creation of Britain with only one thing in common, the manipulated religion.

[MrEglisard]

@Billyver4 USA just helped us to get what we deserved. Why there are still about 3-4 million people out of the Republic of Albania that speak albanian? Because they are albaninans that have preserved our language even after the 500-year ottoman conquest. So we are really a nation. But in Greece, in till in 1850, most of people used to speak albanian, some others serbian, bulgarian , turkish and greek. Don't tell me this is not true! You are just a manipulated nation.

[Billyver4]

@MrEglisard eehh mate, history of Greece is not since 1850 as you talked about... Come on, don't want to proof something fake... Greek are from ancient years.. You know Pericles? Platon? Aristotelis (teacher of Great Alexander)? Ancient Athens and Sparti? Do you know that Philip B'(father of Great Alexander here in Macedonia (Greece) wanted to be a great Union of Greece?After these years Byzantium has come, before otomans 1453 conquered our country.Also, the correct name is HELLAS, not Greece!

[MrEglisard]

@Billyver4 That's the point, Greece has quiet nothing to do with the ancient Hellas, except the same land. I know well the history of ancient world, even the glorious history of Illyrians. I'm not denying the the history, the modern Greece was created between 1800-1900 by Britain and it is a chauvinistic state based on one religion. I respect every religion till the time the are used for bad intentions, like Greece does. Bye!

[Billyver4]

@MrEglisard Excuse me but you made a mistake again.. You talked about modern Greece?? Also, you told that you know history??? heheh.. Ok.. I understand.. I waste my time here.. You are going to deny ancient Italy with capital of Rome too! haha! The only thing that i can do is to advise you to read Greek books of Gold years of Pericles, Ηοmirus etc... And something else, we are not fanatic with our religion.. Muslims are worst!! Don't tell what you want and don't mislead the world, please!

[MrEglisard]

@Billyver4 You are wasting your time and my time because you refuse to understand right. Albanians are not religious and do not fight for religion, so we are not "worst", I didn't say that Orthodoxy is worst, but greek orthodox are "worst". There are things that you have to admit, these are some of them. I'do not have time to explain you some true facts about what we are talking about, sorry!

[Aryandate]

@Billyver4 ASSHOLE PHILIP II WAS THRACIAN OLYMPIA WAS ILLYRIAN HELL-ASSES LIVED ONLY BUT IN PELOPPoNESSE THEY WERE MERCHANTS AND THE CULTURE THAT WAS BUILT THERE DID NOT BEONG ONLY TO ONE NATION BUT TO ALL THOSE THAT CONTRIBUTED IN BUSSINES-DEALS AND THEY BUILT THEIR MARKET-PLACES-HELLENE -CULTURE BULLSHIT LEGENDS-NOTHING TRUE PELLASGIANS WERE THE FIRST ORIGINAL TRIBE IN BALKAN SO WHEN WE WERE HERE YOU DIDN'T EXIST

[Aryandate]

@MrEglisard in fact those guys that killed and persecuted CHAMS were ARVANITES(albanian orthodox-believers) so to them it was more important religion than nationalism they were assimilated by european colonialists they inhabited athens and other "greek" cities and were called the ancient HELLENES-they were kown to live only but in Peloponesse island and they were from various tribes that were "business man" due to it's geographical order-ANCIENT ECONOMICAL CENTER

[MrEglisard]

@Aryandate Some of them. But most of them were andartes, which were same vagabonds and criminal prisoners from Crete. And the other part were the just arrived orthodox people from Turkey.

[MrRevolution79]

@DaimonaC You can come over and claim what belongs to you. Why stand in the shadow and be a pussy nation that lives on the europian and us wellfare?

[DaimonaC]

@MrRevolution79 us welfare? YOU are the bitches of US here, not greeks .if you take bowjobs to us like skopje to keep your pathetic 'states' alive dont come here to make the big guy to me... do you know what is greek army? ;)

[brunildaternova]

Ky materjal duhet publikuar edhe ne gjuhe te tjera sidomos ne anglisht .

[SANCTIONTRAP]

Why you accuse Greeks for all misfortunes and don't praise them for creating the bases of democracy that you so much wanted? You see Greek its a state of mind brother.Welcome to the club... you gota Greek mentality anyway. So be forward and advance,,,,dont get stuck on inaccuracies...The people that react extremely are probably in their early teens and they dont know their right from their left anyway.

[MrEglisard]

@SANCTIONTRAP We don't need to join to a club where people are discriminated because of the religion.

We have our language and our culture and we are proud for them. You don't know enough our history, so it's not good to make conclusions. If you are interested, tell me and I will give you a few things to read to be more infromed.

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@MrEglisard with all respect ,,,,,,,the world unfortunately runs like that. i dont like it either.

[SuperArchitect101]

@SANCTIONTRAP Praise them for the democracy. We have! Every Albanian history book notes that Athens is the cradle of democracy. Or do we owe them more than that. Greece a state of mind? Well, recently seems like your mind will declare bankruptcy. Albanians have a lot to envy Greeks for, except for the Greeks. You should know that Albania is one of the few countries in the world where religion is not a thing worth killing for. take your Greek propaganda where it belongs

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@SuperArchitect101 No propaganda from me,

I see the propaganda of this video though.

As far as the bankruptcy goes that does not reflect the matter which we speak about, nice try to insult me.

[DaimonaC]

@SuperArchitect101 dont we let you to pass the borders for a better life? that's why you are so bastard tribe,we did to you one good thing and you paying us with hate and propaganda ...you think we are gays?

who fucked the TURKS? who fucked the ITALIANS ww2 ? who fucked the GERMANS? you? do you remember division skaderberg? you are the fucking traitors of balcans do you kno that?

plz dont fuck to much because greek army one day will enter your country and then we will talk about who is gay

[SuperArchitect101]

@DaimonaC That's some real class there. Try and read some non Greek history books and than we can talk, objectively. Now, if you will go on nagging and yelling and spitting nonsense, be my guest. Cheerio

[DaimonaC]

@SuperArchitect101 why dont you answer? have you anything to say? nat...keep Crying ..Cya

[SuperArchitect101]

@DaimonaC My friend, I don't care enough to cry over.. well, anything. I have lots to say, it's just that it would all be wasted on you. I know a lost cause when I see one. Besides, you know what they say about youtube debates, they're just like Special Olympics. So congrats again on the first Democracy and good luck on your quest to get the next economic aid from the EU. Till then, bye bye, see you never

[DaimonaC]

@SuperArchitect101 hahaha nice try ... i know it's a joke...like that ; one albanian makes hirony about greece's economy but he forgot that 20 years before when you were starving for food you eat your grandpas so,dont waste your time ,quit your pc ( lol ) and come in greece like many other albanians ...like a TURIST.. HAAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Till then...don't say to me bye bye ... maybe you will come to 'make albanian turism' in my farms to pic some tomatoes for 10 euros/day .

im waiting :)

[SuperArchitect101]

@DaimonaC I have a sneaky feeling you'll be waiting for Godot.

[DaimonaC]

@SuperArchitect101 έλα Ελλάδα εσύ και θα δείς ποιός είναι ο grek :)

[SuperArchitect101]

@DaimonaC No, thanks. I'm quite comfortable right here, boy-o. But nice of you to send such a noble invitation. Cheerio!

[DaimonaC]

@SuperArchitect101 =)))

[SANCTIONTRAP]

So is it bad that we accepted other people to be Greek citizens? I think that was a good thing. Damn,,,, you fill your papers today we will make you Greek citizen. Whats the big deal. History cant change. Ancient Greece was a great culture. To attack it like this is simply immature.

[MRjashanica]

@SANCTIONTRAP thanx but did u ever think that been greek is nothing worthy becuz if u want to be albanien u can touch the sky and still u will never becom albanien u to becom albanien u most be born albanien otherwise u cant be one bay bay

[MrEglisard]

@SANCTIONTRAP Where are you from?

We are albanian, and albanian does not mean to be orthodox or muslim or any other religious group.

On the other side, greek means to be orthodox that speaks modern greek language. That's the problem.

Have you ever heard about the cham albaninans? If yes, you should think different from what you have written.

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@MrEglisard I just dont see the reason why i would want to be Greek or Albanian or anything else. Who decides what people are born in to? Certainly not us. So i am happy as long nobody messes with my family. Be proud of what you are and where you come from but not proud enough to be blind. I like Albanians...they never messed with me so i got no reason not to like you.

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@MrEglisard Also,,,i am Greek for Argyrocastro of Albania

[DaimonaC]

@MrEglisard have you ever heard albanian cams with Nazis make crimes against greeks and after war NAPOLEON ZERVA fucked them all?

why are you crying till today about cameria...you deserved it.

[MrEglisard]

@DaimonaC My family did not fight in that war , so we made no collaboration with any army.

Why do we deserve it?! If you say after this that we deserve it, then I'd say that you deserve to be fucked with no mercy.

[SuperArchitect101]

@SANCTIONTRAP Not accepted, forced!

[TheAlbanianTube]

plera

[K1ALBOGANGSTA]

FUCK GAYREEKS THEY CAN JUST STELA CULTURE AND HISTORY

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@K1ALBOGANGSTA Bro for real? How old are you? 14?

[K1ALBOGANGSTA]

@SANCTIONTRAP yeah for real and im not your bro idiot

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@K1ALBOGANGSTA yea,,,but obviously you are 14.

[K1ALBOGANGSTA]

@SANCTIONTRAP nope

[SANCTIONTRAP]

@K1ALBOGANGSTA your attitude certainly portraits you at the level of an immature,spoiled and needy 14 year old. When you hit intellectual puberty you will understand...but then again you might never will.

[K1ALBOGANGSTA]

@SANCTIONTRAP ok gayreek but i dont care about your opinion you turkish bitch

[snipeno]

ska me burra si dikur qe i vrisnin tradhtaret

[PurosMelisovas]

 What do the Greeks in Greece are of Greek work ..

Each mangy look to corral it.

[TRC4Deejay]

BRAVO BURAZER PER VIDEON UNE E DI SHUM MIRE SE KUSH JANE GREKET POR TA MESOJNE ATA QE NUK E DIJNE,GREKET GJITHMONE E KAN MOHUAR PREJARDHJEN E TYRE,ATA JANE BULLGAR TURQ SKLLAVO MAQEDONAS ROMUN KA EDHE SHUM SHQIPTAR QE E MOHOJNE E SHUM RRACA TE TJERA QE NUK KAN TE BEJNE FARE ME GREQINE EDHE SOT NE DOKUMENTA QUHEN TE GJITH GREK,KJO ESHTE POLITIKA E GREQISE

[Adriano2214]

Μετάφραση από Αλβανικά σε Αγγλικά

Arvanits were three million in 80 years according to the newspaper Kathemerini. I with the number and date. Why not the Greeks added and arvanitas

[MrEglisard]

@Adriano2214 I did not understand. Can you wright better ?

[Adriano2214]

@MrEglisard Arvanitet e Irakli Kocollari ,1995

[SuperArchitect101]

@Adriano2214 Kathimerini is a Greek newspaper. The source of your information is compromised

[olssi19]

Ngelem duke share grekun per dite!!! Jane njerez te poshter maskarenj te djallzuar etj etj,,, dakort jam, edhe mund te jene. Po a e keni menduar ndopak se si jemi ne? Ne qe shkojm ne greqi vjedhim, plackisim, grabisim shesim drog, prostitucion, bejme sherre etj etj!!! kush te duron t'i shkosh ne shtepi e t'i prishesh qetsine? dhe mos haroni se ai grek i poshter ka 20 vjet qe po na mban me buke. njerez para se te shajme tjetrin duhet te njohim veten.

[MrEglisard]

@olssi19 Ata "na kan mbajt me bukë" se kishin nevojë për krahë pune, se punuam me rroga të ulta këto 20 vjet. Shqiptarët kan bërë kudo krime por nuk jan trajtuar në atë mënyrë siç greku i trajtoi.

Ne i shajmë se ata nuk lën çamët të futen në Greqi, se kanë pushtuar atë tokë me shumë vlerë dhe nuk e kthen, se ata me Megali Idean e tyre duan ta quajnë VorioEpir pjesën e Shqipërisë poshtë Shkumbinit.

Sot shqiptarët mund të jen "të këqinj" për shumë gjëra, por historia (fqinjët) ka qënë mizor me ne.

[olssi19]

@MrEglisard Ne po punojm akoma me rroga te ulta! Pse? Spese skemi ku perplasemi tjeter, sepse vetem ata na hapen dyert. E di qe ka rreth 1 miljon Shqiptar ne Greqi? Imagjinoi te gjith ata pa pune,,, Sa per tokat e pushtuara prap vet e kemi fajin. A jane tokat tona? Pse nuk i marim pra meqe na takojn? Sepse nuk ka kush t'i ,mare, skemi shtet e as qeveritare. Dmth dalim te ajo qe thashe ne fillim nuk njohim veten dhe sinqerisht me vjen vertet shume keq por ky eshte realiteti.

[MrEglisard]

@olssi19 Nëse Greqi s'do kishte hapur dyert, do kishin shkuar gjetkë, në Evropë. Ka shumë shqiptarë në itali që trajtohen shumë herë më mirë se në Greqi, edhe pse një pjesë e tyre kan kryer krime.

Ndërsa për punën e shtetit, po, ke të drejtë. Kemi rreth 65 vjet që drejtohemi nga pushtetarë jopatriot. Për këtë arsye jemi kshu si jemi sot. Nëse do kishte një shtet që qeveris mirë, atëherë do punonim në vendin tonë dhe nuk do kishim pse të bënim krime për të fituar para.

[KosovaChelseaTBA]

@olssi19 ani pra edhe une ta jepi nje pune me njeten rrog sikur Shqiptaret ne greqi edhe tani t'pordhi fhtyre e tani e kqyrom a um done mu

[olssi19]

@KosovaChelseaTBA i sigurt qe e ke kuptuar ca kam shkruajtur?

[KosovaChelseaTBA]

@olssi19 ska lidhje a na jepin pune se ata neve sduhet me na trajto si skllevër

[olssi19]

@KosovaChelseaTBA nuk po them qe greket jane te mire, me kupto! po as ne nuk jemi te mire. dhe meqe ne Shqiptaret jemi si skllever ne greqi perse nuk ikim te punojme ne vende te tjera????

[KosovaChelseaTBA]

@olssi19 mire e ki na me ik krejt ish kane mas mirti sikur Camet kur jen ik ose sikur osmanet kur jen ik prej Arvanitet/Arberoret kur kan dashte me lufto per ilirine e greqise

[armandoo48]

kosova chelsea sesht puna kush esht apo kush nuk esht i mire e drejta e refugjatit esht e drejt ne te gjith boten spo thot njeri qe greeket jan te keqij esht politika greeke e keqe kunder shqiptareve edhe kisha greeke. kurse per ate qe the ti shko ne vend tjeter nuk ka te boj fare per videon qe esht postu.

[TRC4Deejay]

@armandoo48 JE I SIGURTE QE NUK THOT EUROPA PER GREKET QE JAN KELYSHA PUTANASH EEE? KU DO TE MAR SHEMBULL? DO NE QIPRO QE E KAM PAR VET ME SYTE E MIJ QE NE NJE LOKAL KISHTE TABELE QE SHKRUHEJ (NDALOHEN QENTE EDHE GREKET) APO DO NE GJERMANI QE GREKEVE U THOJNE (ERDHEN QENTE) RRI MER LALE SI POLITIK E SI POPULL JANE TE PABESE BYTH QIMAT

[TRC4Deejay]

@olssi19 O LALE PO SECILI KA MUNDESITE E VETA RE,KUSH NE GREQI KUSH NE ITALI E KUSH NEPER VENDE TE TJERA,GREKU ESHTE RRACA ME E POSHTER QE EKZISTIN NE PLANET,TI HA BUK ME DJERSEN TENDE NE GREQI KURSE ATA THOJNE NE PO JU MBAJME ME BUK,JA KETA JANE BARBARET GREK

[YAUJTAwarrior]

@MrEglisard bravo vella,ua tregove vendin grekve,por kam nje pytje?si e ke realizuar videon?me cfar programi se dua te bej dhe un disa?

[MrEglisard]

@YAUJTAwarrior Po është Windows MovieMaker ky që e kam bërë këtë video.

[TRC4Deejay]

@MrEglisard ATA THAN PARA CA KOHESH QE EDHE LUSHNJA ESHTE TOK GREKE PJES E VORJOEPIRIT,ATA BYTH QIMAT NUK DIJNE SE KE KAN NEN E BAB MER LALE NGA QE JANE RRACE E TRUBULLUAR DO DIJNE SE KU ESHTE VORJOEPIRI,E KAN NE GJAK GREKET TE THOJNE KJO ESHTE E JONA,PER INDINE KAN THEN QE ESHTE GREKE PER EGJYPTIN PER SIRINE EDHE PER SHUM VENDE TE LASHTA POR KETO VETEM ME LLAFE SE NUK JA U MBAN PICKA TE SHKOJ NE INDI APO NE EGJYPT TE THOJNE QE KETO JANE TOKAT TONA SE JA U QIJNE MOTRAT I SHFAROSIN SI KOMB.

[armandoo48]

c'thu mor budalla te mbaka greeku me buk ty? ti punon ne greeqi po mos te ishte greku do vinim ne itali ose ku e di un ne ndonje vend tjeter sic bejn te gjith emigrantet ne te gjith boten. ne jemi emigrand atje punojme. spo kerkon njeri buk be greeqi.

[TRC4Deejay]

@olssi19 KUR TE KA DHEN BUK GREKU TY? KUR KE BER SHERR TI EDHE TE KA LEN TE LIRE OSE TE KAN TRAJTUAR MIRE? KUR KE BER TRAFIK DROGE TI ARMESH PROSTITUCIONI EDHE XHAXHI GREK TE KA THENE BERE NJE HER FAJ PO MOS E PERSERIT ME???? OOOO RRAKE TAKE JE NE TEREZI APO JO? KE GATI 1MILJON SHQIPTAR NEPER BURGJET E GREQISE QE 5% E KETYRE E MERITOJNE DENIMIN KURSE TE TJERET JAN KOT,KETE E DI APO JO,EDHE TE GJITHA GJYKATAT E GREQISE USHQEHEN ME KETO BURGAXHINJ,OOOO RRAKE PO NA TREGON PERRALLAT E GREKEVE TI?

[Selacii]

Shqipëtarët/Arvanitas e greqis deri 1850 (për hirë) ndihmuan kishës për ti larguar të gjithë shqipëtarët musliman nga greqia mesme dhe jugore e ishuj. Ata janë tradhëtarët e parë. E meritojn ata që të mos e dinë sot gjuhën e tyre e të bukur Shqipëtare. Lexone historin e Suliotëve se si tradhëtuan Ali Pash Tepelenën.

[MegaILIRIA]

Ashte e vertete qe greket ropqima bazojne gjithcka me fe,por greket nuk kane qu kryte kurre kundra ilirve shqiptar ata quan kryte kur turqija perdhosi shqypnine para se turku te hinte en shqipri shteti jone ilir ka pase kufinjte deri ne austri,greqia perfitoj nga coptimi i shqiprise dhe pordhosi shqiptarte.dhe sot sali berisha me hashim thaqit i thojne turkut grekut e serbit vlla kurse shiptarve i thojne shkja ky ashte realiteti dhe pike

[Dukagjini0]

Me ket politik qe kena ne shqiptaret ne Kosove si ne shqiperi, nje Shqiperi te bashkuar do te mbet nje enderr qe kurr sdo te realizohet! Rrnofshin 100% Shqiptaret! Fuck Berisha, Fuck Thaqi dhe gjith ata qe i mbroj keta hajduta FUCK OF!!!

[shqiponjakoklart]

@Dukagjini0 SHPRESOJ QE DO TE REALIZOHET O MIKU IM. VETEM BASHKIMI BENE FUQINE. DUHET SHUM PUN PER NJE SHQIPERI NATYRALE POR BESOJ QE DO TE BEHET NJE DITE DUN APO SDUN TE TJERET. MOS I HUMBISNI SHPRESAT VLLEZER DHE MOTRA NJE DIT DO TE JEMI '' 1'', DUHET VETEM BASHKIM, KUNDER NJE POLITIKE ANTISHQIPTARE.