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  • ¿anyone have lost in his very first battle?

  • @ChrisTheBest1992 I doubt it...

  • @DrDimentio this is battle hax tower,anything can happen

  • @ChrisTheBest1992 Yeah, but if you meant battle number 1... that's against first-stage and baby Pokemon, so how could anyone possibly lose?

  • Oh man... I'm so sorry bro.. I've had this kind of thing happen to me before, but not this bad. 197 wins? I give you mighty respect for that right there man, good job!

  • @MrJoeMontano Thanks, but 197 wins is nothing... haven't you seen my video where I lose a 646 streak?

  • Since when does EQ do that much To Chomp and Chomp do so little to Rhyperior? You got robbed, bro.

  • the only pokemon i really want to RNG abuse is Mespirit but i epically failed on Diamond, but i recently got Platinum last tuesday so im willing to try again. please messege me if you can help me dude if not its totally fine i'll just keep trying unti i figure it out.

  • @AceKarizo I'm not sure how I can help - have you found Smogon's guide to RNG abuse? That's what I used to master it, but it took time to figure it out...

  • dam. so close i was checking you're iv's and yeah i thought for sure scizor would of killed that bich lol.

  • @AceKarizo Yeah, I failed mainly because I didn't have flawless IVs. This was back when I was completely new to RNG-abuse, I'd mastered getting shinies but didn't learn about getting flawless IVs on them until after this video.

  • What's the first song?

  • @MrTien23 Doopliss Battle theme from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.

  • DOOPLISS!!!!!!!! 

  • @ZynHanato Excuse me while I steal your identity and hide one of the letters in my name...

  • woah i didnt know milotic is so bulky... double swords dance + superpower

  • @jonting91 Yeah, but Marvel Scale activated because it was paralyzed. I didn't think of that when I used Thunder Wave, stupidly.

  • Never underestimate Starmie. I use an expert belt Starmie and it manages to sweep a lot of teams without getting hit.

  • @alanb9 Starmie is my favourite Pokemon to use in the Battle Tower; but is not suited to Trick teams. I use lead EB Starmie until battle 49, then switch to my 646-streak Trick team (not this crap one).

  • Well, I don't get why 197 battles is an epic fail but anywhos... I guess I can't say considering I started actually using strategy a month ago. XP

  • @SalvationStudios1 The battle itself was an epic fail (the team kinda sucked too), but 197 is nothing compared to 646 which I eventually got. Good luck with your Trick team streaks!

  • @DrDimentio Thanks. :P

  • Lol dont you just love it when that happens?

    Anyways why in the world would you use super power wasting all those sword dances? Granted if the milotic had died well everything would have unfolded the same way, bad move to use first on a sword dancing scizor ima go check your new video now

  • @tabbris "Wasting all those Swords Dances" - it's only 'wasting' half of one, and Superpower is the essential coverage move for Trick team Scizor in the Tower, as Brick Break is so weak. It's not a bad move to use on an SD Scizor, it's a bad move to use Scizor in the first place (hence why it was only in this first experimental team).

  • now, wait, why isearthquake super effective agaisnt ryperioir???

  • @XxxSlipKnotRoxxX Type = Rock/Ground, with the Rock part being weak to EQ.

  • i lost my streak when hypnosis went on a missing-spree xD

  • @Scottza1997 With only 60% accuracy, I definitely wouldn't rely on such a move in the Hax Tower.

  • @DrDimentio actually zoom lens brought it to 80% accuracy, which definitely proves its the hax tower

  • @Scottza1997 Nah, 80% accuracy is terrible. It might be passable in battles against humans, but in long streaks of course you're going to get the 1 in 5 chance of missing happening many times.

  • @DrDimentio yeah youre right, i gotta cut poliwrath from my team xD

  • @DrDimentio

    80% accuracy means means about 50/60% in the Battle Tower. Honestly, its only a shitload of bullshit in that tower. Finished my Dusknoir a couple weeks ago and was ready to have a blast. Dream came quickly to an end when Will-O-Wisp missed 4 times in a row. F#cking retarded shit. Soz for language.

    You know, I always wondered when a lifebar is orange when a pokemons has MORE than half of its max hp. I just cant get over that.

  • @Stino7777777 Indeed, but not when the AI uses moves with that accuracy... but honestly, the main problem is using Dusknoir and Will-O-Wisp. Both are far too unreliable for a big win streak in the Tower/etc. I've noticed that it goes orange just slightly above 50% health... or it seems to.

  • At least you got a 100 win streak, that's better than me. :P

  • @YodatheJedi12 Heh, I'm sure you'll get it if you persist... this was the same streak where I first passed 100... since then, I've passed it at least 7 times, my best being 646.

  • (computer player)"yep you did good. no seriously." yeah shut the fuck up your milotic and rhyperior are cheep as ass, and proves ace trainers have no skill. I feel your pain bro i hate when shit like this happens.

  • @samusbionicle I'm actually lucky that *most* of my losses are to trainers who say 'positive' things when they win, but of course that still pissed me off! It was more own Scizor's fault than the Milotic, since it didn't have a flawless Attack IV. But the Rhyperior, yes that was cheap! Damn Solid Rock and low random damage modifiers (btw, if you want to see real shit happening, check out my 1 in 184544 chance hax battle)

  • @DrDimentio i lost a good streak in emerald to a guy who's parting line of consolation was "ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha" (or something similar)

  • @BozoTheBear Imagine if you got beaten by a person in real life who did that... it would be pretty hard not to punch them, right? Luckily I don't have anger problems like some... in the real life tournament happening soon, I might see some angry reactions to losses, lol.

  • Oh Jeez......Oh man.......

  • @LunarEclipse135 Lol. This was my first Trick team so it sucked.

  • Note to self: Dont mess with Rhyperior 0.0

  • ... unless you have Surf or Grass Knot.

  • lolthorton

    The factory heads have always been a pain. Remember Emerald?

  • I know, Thorton is my most hated character of all time, and that's saying a lot!

    They have... but I've never played the Emerald Frontier, for the sake of avoiding them.

  • Lol at random arceus in the middle of the vid

  • It wasn't completely random, however, since it was to show that Arceus deals Judgement upon those who beat me, lol.

  • Daaamn that sucked. The Milotic and Rhyperior with about 1% left is complete bullshit.

  • Yeah, but with Milotic it was because I forgot about Marvel Scale... although the full paralysis helped in some ways. Rhyperior has a 50% chance of having Solid Rock, which sucks... either way, my 313 team easily beats the same type of enemies.

  • FUCK YEAH DOOPLISS MUSIC

  • For the win.

  • damn this is not me but somehow it pisses me off seen such uber riperior. im sure if the riperior was you and the garchomp was them the game would have screwed you in another way, im going to say critical hit, im sure of it.

  • Yep, I agree that Rhyperior is a fag. The game is designed to screw you up, although I'm about to upload my new video of my superior 313 streak in the Tower.

  • yes a fag indeed, i never liked that tank looking thing i prefer to stay with my rhydon lol and damn!! 313 you must be good i think i only made it to 27 >_> oh man, do i rule or what?? lol

  • Well, my video is nearly ready to be uploaded now... so get ready to watch it. Lol, yeah.

  • could someone plz give me advice for a team to beat palmer

  • Any decent combination of Pokemon EV trained and with good IVs can easily beat him. If you want to beat stuff in the tower, just use a Garchomp and something else good.

  • ive got a garchomp but the rest suck .i dont know if this is too much too ask but could you make a video showing some pokemon that are good for ev training and show pokemon to kill to get EVs

  • Well, there are already countless videos showing that, plus my computer's broken so I can't make videos. A video isn't necessary to learn; I mastered EV training from reading Serebii's Effort Values article.

  • serrebi has an ev guide?

  • Serebii has all sorts of in-depth guides. It's just hard to navigate the site sometimes...

  • That's quite painful to watch. D:

  • Nice that you felt empathy there, although to be honest I was actually slightly relieved... in fact, I swore less than 10 times upon losing... that's how calm I was!

  • Well, at least you made it decently far. Usually when something like that happens to me I swear a whole lot and still hold a grudge about it the day afterward. If it were me, I'd be pissed beyond believe. Kudos to you for staying calm.

  • Lol, that's strange because I can almost guarantee that I'm a more highly strung person than you... I get especially pissed off with many other games. I guess the breaking of the monotony had a strangely relieving effect. With all previous Tower attempts with non-Trick teams (without Trick it's almost impossible...), I did get furious upon losing though.

  • No way. I yell at the TV all the time. Especially when I'm playing Brawl or Mario Kart Wii and something stupid happens at the very last minute, costing me a match. I never had a Trick team on my old save file, so I wonder how it would have turned out if I'd used my old team.

  • Brawl is the most frustrating game... and I suddenly thought of Blue Shells in MKWii... spawned from hell, they are.

  • Especially when you're cornered by... three Ikes. D:

    That's true! You're just about to win the race when suddenly you're mauled by a spiky blue shell and everybody zooms past you.

  • Just FIRE YOUR LASER when that happens!

    I know... that kind of hax is almost as bad as the Battle Frontier hax... must be a Nintendo thing.

  • Here they come now! Say it with me now!

    IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    Hax is frustrating. Really, really, rip-out-your-hair frustrating. Especially in Pokemon against a CPU. I kind of feel embarrassed losing to CPUs unless they're on Hard difficulty.

  • Lulz.

    Hax is required in Pokemon to prevent infinite win streaks. The best teams could theoretically get 1000s of wins in a row, but hax must exist to stop that.

  • Hax is like... like... uh, like something that prevents you from doing something good. Of course the best teams would be able to win all the time if not for hax. This is probably why we have secondary move effects and the RNG.

  • Yes, I agree that secondary move effects exist almost purely to mix it up when battles are too even or monotonous, and to prevent the better team from ALWAYS winning. In reality, these small chances are a burden to any tournament player.

  • In any good RPG game, you're going to find hax. It's inevitable. Considering the fact that most CPUs use no particular strategy used in the human world (you've never seen a Hailstorm/Trick Room/some other Smogon strategy while facing CPUs, have you?) the game designers realized that one way or another we're going to find good strategies, thus manipulating our awesome plans and creating hax. ^^

  • Actually, Muscle band also gives 20%, as does Wise Glasses. I have no idea where you pulled that from, all the boosting items got jacked up to 120% (except Choice items and Life Orb, obviousy).

  • Both Smogon and Bulbapedia state 10% for Muscle Band, so where did YOU pull that from!? Some obscure source, probably. If all boosting items were at 120%, they'd be very popular - but due to the mere 10%, items like Life Orb are more popular.

  • Why Iron Plate? Isn't Muscle Band superior?

  • Muscle Band gives +10% to all physical attacks, Iron Plate is +20% to Steel-type attacks. Since Bullet Punch is used at least 95% of the time compared to Superpower, it's much more useful. I also hate Life Orb + Sub HP loss since I don't Roost, so IP it is. Seriously, I only used Superpower a few times in the whole streak... mainly on slow, bulky waters (as seen with Milotic in this vid, although Milo is faster, and I realized then I really need a 32 Attack IV to kill such things >_>)

  • The music really set the mood =(

    That was painful to watch....

  • It sure did... it's quite convenient that I play many different game series, including Warcraft 3 where the sad music was from.

    It was probably more painful for you than me, since I kind of didn't mind when it happened. Though it was too close to 200... anyway, thanks for your nice comment.

  • lol@random Arceus scene

  • Lol, it was quite random. I'm a big fan of Arceus so I felt obliged to use it.

  • Man, my Pokes can get to Palmer with ease, but I'm always haxed to death and I lose.

  • I know what ya mean; hax is the game developer's evil way of ensuring people don't completely own the tower.

  • Yup, it sure is! People often forget that when discussing how someone could've won... and often it proves that lack of knowledge is the only reason the person lost... usually.

  • Yes, but obviously when I was doing the battle, I didn't know what opponents were remaining... if I did, I would have sent out Garchomp. People often forget that things are easier when you know what to expect. Plus Starmie could have been a +Speed one and then possibly Freeze-haxed me. So that was just as risky.

  • That sucks. I ALMOST got to Palmer once but then I found out my Pikachu wasn't qualified for the battle I was in...the hard way. I also found out a minute ago that Garchomp CAN ACTUALLY LEARN SURF (I never would've thought of that).

  • I guess it does; the chance of not 2-hit KOing that Rhyperior was less than 50%. I wouldn't expect Pikachu to get far in the Frontier. Also, Garchomp can learn such moves but they are a waste due to the low Sp. Atk.

  • Yes, it's one of my favourite shinies, since I like gween a lot.

  • Nothing. It's just a cooler number. As for 100, you know many things happen.

  • It's okay... somewhat of a relief to finally work on my Dex and get my Black Card.

    Yup yup, Doopliss is pretty awesome. Should reappear along with Dimentio, and they could team up... both psychopaths.

  • i hated when they get teams 2 conter ur team not cool >xP

    aways sorry u lost :(

  • It did seem like that team was a perfect counter to mine, but I've done research and thanks to Smogon I know the groups of Pokemon each trainer uses.

    Thanks, I wasn't upset about it though. Kind of glad it's over.

  • oh man bad luck..... D:

    i gave up on the hax tower... too hax

    also, movesets of pokemon in the battle factory are so lolz at times... oh well

  • Yeah it was, those cursed randomizations in the damage calculation >_>, and Solid Rock of course. If I had a Suicune instead of Garchomp (a guy with 300+ on Smogon used one) I'd have pwned the fat boulder.

    It certainly is a Hax Tower... I was lucky to get so far. Kind of embarrassing that I lost sort-of fairly... not to criticals or hax items.

    Yup, looking at the entire moveset list can be amusing.

  • I'm so sorry you lost

  • It's okay, I wasn't too bothered when it happened. I was somewhat relieved, as I can now work towards getting my Black Trainer Card.

  • o_O Stupid Rhyperior.

    196 wins is still very impressive.

    After I get some my shiny targets I must try to beat that :P Now I'm at 48 lol.

  • Yeah, I'll permanently hold a grudge against that obese boulder >_>. Solid Rock ability is why I lost. Thanks, I agree that 196 is awesome, but I was hoping for 200 at least.

    Okay, good luck! You'll need patience and LUCK. Trust me, I mainly got that far due to relatively good luck.

  • I have that patience because I got that Moltres xD But I'm not sure about luck xD

    Yeah I understand that you are angry about that stupid Rhyperior.. :(

    Btw do you know what is WR on Battle Tower wins without any cheats and what Pokemon trainer have used ;D

  • very sorry about the lose..

    that was bullshit.. how the fuck Rhyperior survived the 2nd Earthquake? o.O

    oh well.. congrats on making it that that far..

    awesome vid and epic music too!

  • Thanks for the sympathy... although to be honest I was kind of getting bored with all the battles... however, a 200+ record would've been nicer.

    Yeah it probably had 1 frickin' hitpoint left, and that was a classic example of the game's damage randomizer. Solid Rock is to blame >_>.

    Thanks for the congrats and video compliments :P. Lol yeah, I chose ideal music from games such as Paper Mario:TTYD and Warcraft 3.

  • You are truly amazing...

  • Thanks for your awesome compliments as usual!

  • How come you couldn't defeat Rhyperior...? You took half of his hp away in the first move. Wouldn't it will be the same for the second time?

    Anyways very nice job getting to 196 streak... I can't even go pass streak 35 -_-

  • well some moves have some give as in they might be harsher or weaker it is random but it can suck if it is agianst you

  • To put it simply: The game uses a non-uniform randomizer in which the smallest probability is about 2% to get maximum damage.

  • Pokemon games, like most other RPGs, use a randomizer in the damage calculation formula. That means I did less in the second hit, sadly not enough to take another 50% of Rhyperior's HP, thanks to Solid Rock.

    Thanks, and 35 is better than a lot of people.

  • I hate the battle tower because im WAY to impatience... My highest streak is like 18..

  • Fair enough. Also, it's common for people to hate things they're not good at.

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