If the americans didnt have that gun they would have nothing in COH. My tiger is weaker than that gun. Its overpowered and when you play agains the PC in skirmish, it only uses that M1 and nothing else! It sucks...
Those 57mm are so overpowered in this game... I find it stupid they they outrange, outgun and have more strength than 2-3 Marder III Tank Destroyers, more accurate as well, especially considering they're cheaper, use less pop and require no fuel.
all of them where unfair fights.In the first one it didn't even turned.In the second one it was shooting in the wrong direction and in the third one it was two against one.
In reality flack 88 would have kicked 57mms ass.Any one else who agry thumbs up!
this might be one of the reasons why i dont play vanilla coh anymore...
the gameplay of the unmodded game is just impossible to play if you have the smalles knowlegde of reality and performance of guns and armour in the game.
Blitzkrieg mod is perhaps the best mod, and it has a loyal following. Its probably the most realistic game, where a Tiger Tank or JagDPanther can take out a Sherman in 1 shot, and its got ALOT more vehicles and such.
i was playing a map against the u.s and i had a choke point pinned with 2 flaks and the AI player would keep sending planes to do strafing runs against me so i got some anti air defense and what happens 5 min later? a shot down plane crashes right into my flak letting the U.S push there shermans through, it sucked i won though :)
@mommasboy8879 don't forget the allies had the British empire which at the time( before we gave are countries independence) we where a massive nation I'd say just as powerful as the U.S
The 88 does not need to be very well armored. You put 1 or 2 layers of sandbags around it, 1 or 2 bunkers covering it and it will blast everything away within seconds.
Not shooting snipers cover the area where the enemies come from, and you have a defense that can only be defeated by artillery.
Bunkers. I usually put some barbed wire to force the enemy troops into death zone and some mines behind the parts where it would be dangerous if they cut the wire.
Pershing beat the fucking POS panther so fuck off Germany... American steel will always be 100000 better then u... Brits will Always be better than Germany, and their intel. and with their firefly,( built on American steel) the French......... needs help... a lot!
@CKYguy1213 Lol, the pershing only saw limited combat in WW2 because it was so delayed. also your forgetting the fact that at the time Germany had the most advanced technology and, almost all of the axis armor was destroyed by allied air. so that means that allied tanks basically did nothing. Except for The Russian tank's.
honestly, 88's in the game are not even close to being modeled. 88's could hit targets 2000yards easly, and were known to hit targets out to 8000 yards at times from hill tops. 88's could be used for both artilery and direct fire. there just underpowered in most games
I noticed the flak guns weren't shooting at the anti-tank guns. Anyway, I'll take your word for it that the anti-tank gun would win, I'm pretty sure I've used them in the past to take out flak guns. I just recently started playing and realized that snipers and anti-tank guns or snipers and flak guns together are like the ultimate defensive team, very little gets past them. If a sniper was with the flak gun then it would have taken out the anti-tank gun no problem.
the reason why the flak 88 isnt firing back is because hes probably using this video while hes fighting the computer, not a human opponent, and that the AT guns are able to fire past their range of sight if you have someone to scout for them, so they probably had a sniper or something near the Flak 88 so that the AT gun could see it, the computer always does it to me and it gets extremely annoying really fast, especially when you got about 6 tanks rolling in.
@poodie56 Makes sense. I usually do that with my flak guns since they have a huge range. It lets them function as great offensive and defensive weapons.
actually Id say this is largely accurate, keep in mind the size of the two guns, the 57mm has a tiny profile where as the 88, being designed as an anti aircraft gun, has a massive profile, you couldnt miss it even you tried
But mind you this is really a quite irrelevant test,,,I dont think i ever heard of anti tank guns being used to take on 88's...
@oOCrossroadsOo in real life it'd be less than that IF it hit the 57mm, remember 57 is very small in comparison, the 88 on the other hand is almost as big a profile as a small tank, makes a world of difference
Yeah but the 88mm is very accurate as well... so it would depend of how the 57mm is hiden, etc... And I was actualy speaking about the game, not real life :) In real life things would have depend of a lot of different factors that aren't in the game.
@oOCrossroadsOo oh right, well yeah in that case in the game the 88 would most likely of won ,,, kinda forgot the game twists reality a tiny bit here and there
@oOCrossroadsOo oh ive noticed its not often, playing the mission where youre in la bocarge (or however you spell it) and you gotta take hill 192, decided meh balls to it I shall take my group of shermans through the road,,,sherman goes on road,,,shell fire sounds,,,sherman explodes
Kind of a meh test, really. All the shots you show are fired on to the exposed side of the 88, where it has the weakest armor. Plus, there's no effort made to protect the 88, such as sandbags or supporting snipers or infantry.
@YoZzzeWF Why do you argue about music on COMPANY OF HEROES??? So what if im a noob in electronic music, at least i dont go and nag about the type of music and start argument with people who says its techno. Go and try to play your electronic music and let people be...
Man... I was looking for videos about 88 Flak and I spotted your comment. Now you are cleverer and you know, that this type of music is not techno. So I really don´t know what are you complaining about ;)
Arguing about real world power is pointless. It's a game first and the AT gun is a hard counter to vehicles and emplacements. The 88 is plenty powerful and has huge range, but IMO costs too much pop and res wise.
I'd say a cost of like 6 pop and a drop to like 300mp/40 or 50 fuel would be fair. It is rather easy to arty spam due to it's static nature (though it must be noted it can often be re-crewed, it takes a lucky or heavy bombardment to actually trash the gun)
Thats one of the weaknesses of the 88, if it doesnt have range of the enemy nearby , its usually vaulnerable unless if your smart like me , and use " Attack Ground " =P.
Yes 2 men could lift it, its called using the strength of your back and arms as well as using the wheels as a pivot point. And this is realistic as the Americans did face the German 88's often, but at the same time isn't because they rarely got a chance to attack them with AT guns.
Of course they couldn't pick the whole thing up or move it very far. Look at the way the gun is designed. Almost all of the gun barrel is sticking out of the shield, which moves 2 thirds of the weight to the front of the gun. The other weight (the shield and breach block) are on top of the wheels. They mostly used trucks to move them around. I have been on a 57mm before and you need 2 moderately strong people to be able to pick it up.
problem is, in reality 88 guns were the terror... not because of rate of fire, or defensive capabilities per say but because of their range and power. they were very effective at hitting anything that moved out to 1000m but were often employed to take out targets as for as 4000m, thats over 2.4 miles. and thats in direct fire mode, they could lob shells indireclty out to 8 miles as artillery. put in a defensive location they could domanate a field. And little coud be done untill you close
The 88 is a fire magnet in COH. I stopped using them because it turned into a waste of resources to watch as the inevitable arty strike was sent against it a few seconds after its first shot.
This is really biased towards the At guns. They wouldn't be able to get a shot off let alone kill the 88 before it had them sighted and destroyed with 1 shot.
This is so biased. The anti tank guns of the brit will be destroyed before they would be able to make it. The german 88 has a very long range and I doubt that in a real battle a player would let a brit get close to his precious killing (stationary) machine and a flak 88 is always accompanied by squads of machine gun and sandbags that's why this vid is simply unrealistic.
1.) all the 88´s there hasn´t attack one of the british at´s
2.) it´s a fact that the british soldiers NEVER placed their at-guns closer than 1000m to one of those 88´s
And 3.) NO FUCKING GERMAN SOLDIER WOULD´N LET STAND AROUND AN 88mm GUN ALONE !!!! their 88´s has ever been covered an protected by Infantrists and their Sdkfz 250. Carriers even they tried to camouflage it!! 0/5 ...
@ameraz4126 nope..... i´m just wondering because in all of those games they say "the most realistic game you´ve ever played!" an slo that mad guy who postet this video says in the discription: Test to show how fragile the 88 flak is against anti tank guns. WTF??? he beleves that shit what the programmers of coh are telling him that it would be "the most realistic wwii game you´ve ever played"......
@DieBismarck1 No he's testing how the in game flak 88 is against the in game 57 mm. No where does he say this is a real life comparison. You are talking about the original poster of this video right?
in my eyes it is impossible to see that the allies won the war and either need to tell everyone how "good" american warfare was... with thus games.
my opinion is that: just because the allies won the war they could now have the eggs to say... even if the most of thus were nazis, but ohh shit they had such good weapons and soldiers!!!
@CptShinanigans91 im not a nazi and i really dont like hitler and his way of making politics in killing innocent jews or making war because its fun....
But i´m a good friend of germany because i am german! and it is allowed to be proud of your own coutry.... i hope you think that way too
@DieBismarck1 Yea I see what you mean and, i do agree with what you said on hitler. About killing innocent jews and, making war because it was fun and, i'm also German and, i'm proud of my country and heritage.
@DieBismarck1: well youre right that the at was managed badly BUT it also showed that the 88s AI doesnt respond to the AT gun. the 88 priorises tanks>vehcles>other, meaning it will ALWAYS let itself be shot by at guns if not microed(while you have to micro your infantry that would normally defend the 88). i often find my 88s killed by ats because of the following cause:
US is advancing->88 is firing at the first incoming tank or inf->aAT gun bashes the now revealed 88 from Fog Of War distance->trying to hit AT with 88->88 turning and/or reloading until AT is cloaked in FOW again->88 turns again to other US units->AT hitting it again->trying to kill AT with infantry->running into bars suppressive fire/HMG suppressive fire/flamethrower->retreat->88down(if not way before the infantry retreats since US uses more than one AT gun).
last but not least i often see ppl arguing about the pak38 being better than the 57mm because it has 7mm less and penedrates armor better, BUT 1) its totally logical that a smaller bullet has more penedration power, a spear can penedrate much better than a hammer doesnt it? and 2) the pak needs to stay cloaked aka defensive in position to deal more damage to armor while the 75mm can be used in offense and do even more damage with at rounds while the pak doesnt even do half the dmg in offense
@godmode86 agreed, the 88mm for example, is akin to a sledgehammer hitting an inch thick piece of iron while the 57mm is like a steak knife to a block of butter. ultimately, the key is how large the powder charge is and how great the range is to the target. with some other factors thrown in as well such as the angle of the armor and how thick it is. if it is like the T-34 than you have to be awefully close to hope to penetrate at a flat angle (say, on a plane or in a flat field).
@WTCTribute ah what to say it would be stupid that alies dont have some OP weapons cuz german tanks are just just so hard to destroy by alied tanks only the pershing and sherman firefly are strong enough to destroy a panther :S
@WTCTribute an 88 could destroy a Sherman tank in one shot, shoot down aircraft, and be used as artillery. They were expensive, and thus were always well protected by sand bags infantry. A Panther could destroy a Sherman in one shot, a Panzer four could destroy one in two shots. And most of the time, German Grenadiers were better trained, equipped and led than American troops.
on the fact about the better trained and led than American troops, that depends. First on the branch and second at what point during the war. u have to understand that most of the german soldiers had been fighting since the blitz in 39 if not the first world war. ill give them the training, in the beginning, not later.
the leadership too. but ill only credit the germans with being good early war. after 42 with the north africa campaign and sicily, they lost their betterness. the only thing the germans kept to b number 1 was their tank tech and even that was pwned but the late war, mass produced, sloped armored, russian tanks.
the luftwaffe was mutilated during the failed battle of britain. and american infantry was better equiped minus the sturmgewer. the early war employment of the m1garand may have won the war along with tactical brilliance and overwhelming air superiority. um yeah... i think im done.
the luftwaffe was mutilated during the failed battle of britain. and american infantry was better equiped minus the sturmgewer. the early war employment of the m1garand may have won the war along with tactical brilliance and overwhelming air superiority. um yeah... i think im done.
@fatfreepenguin The American were almost all ways inexperienced compared to the Germans, and the Germans had guns like the MP40, which was more powerful than the Thompson, the Gewer (don't know if that's spelled right), could outperform the m1 at short distances, (Don't get me wrong it was a great gun) and the panzersrech was better than the bazzoka. Oh, and only 10% of the Wermact was in Normandy, but it was utter hell, even with total air support over the Germans.
@CKYguy1213 Off course the Allies won, they had the two most powerful industries on earth on their side, America and Russia. They could simply out produce the Germans. And the Thompson jammed far more than the mp40, especially with the drum mag.
@CKYguy1213 Sorry, but you're a fucked up retard. I'm guessing you're a fanatical little Russian fanboy, correct?
Go search "Berlinvoss ppsh41", then watch his MP40 video. Allieds won the war, Germans pioneered everything. Don't forget that the average German soldier was 20 times more effective than any allied soldier during the ending stages.
@CKYguy1213 5 months later reply, gg. I don't see the point in your comment, any gun will jam. The PPSh41 just had that problem a lot more. There's a reason they replaced it with stick mags, and then again with the improved, and easier to produce PPSh43.
If you're referring to the 2 videos I recommended, then no. The MP-40 did not jam a single time(compared to the PPSh41), count all the shots off yourself and see that he's firing the entire clip(32 rounds.)
@mommasboy8879 You don't even know what you're talking about, do you? The Thompson is chambered in .45, the MP-40 in 9MM Para. When you're refering to the "Gewehr"(Which is German for "Rifle"), I'm sure you mean the G43. In any case, how does this make any sense with your comparison? Are you talking about the M1 Carbine, or the M1 Garand? You deserve some cake for knowing that of the Panzerschreck though, go buy some - you deserve it.
@firearms2k When I said the MP40 was more powerful then the Thompson I meant that it was a better gun overall. It would not jam constantly and would perform better in battlefield conditions. When I said M1 I meant the M1 grand, and also the BAR was a terrible gun just so you know, it jammed, had to small a clip, and weighed down the soldier carrying it. (Just felt like saying that) And the Germans had the STG, the worlds first assault rifle. And now I'm going to get some cake :)
@mommasboy8879 Good you deserve some! Next time you feel like commenting, work on your English(and save some cake for me).
The Thompson M1A1 didn't have jamming problems, count the US, because they were not using drum magazines. The tommies however did, and suffered the consequences(Thompson M1928). The way you wrote it, made it seem rather wrong, because the problem with the Thompson is that it's too powerful with its .45 round - rendering it more inaccurate.
@firearms2k actually, my grandfather fought in WW2 (British side) and he said he never used the Tompson M1A1 because every time he tried it, it jammed. He said it needed to be kept to clean to fire properly.
@mommasboy8879 Hard to say that when in battle reports German infantry preform, well in a way, like the Russians when against American and British troops. The German tanks were only design for tank combat and failed miserably to protect their infantry. Not mentioning Panther and Tigers were nice fat targets for American Bazookas men.
@916ppl So your saying that they kick the American and British troops ass? Because that's what the Russian troops did to quite a few of their enemies. And 90% of the German army was infantry, and the grenadiers had excellent training and leadership. Not only that, but unless you got extremely lucky, you would have a hard time killing a Tiger or Panther with a bazooka at anything but extremely close range. At least a Panzerfoust could destroy a tank from more than five feet away.
@Armydude991 So you're argument is about my spelling, and mine is about what we're talking about, riiiight. So, some estimates of the effectiveness of a bazooka say that it would only reliably perform at 8 feet, suicidally close to a Panzer 4. You could destroy a German tank in one shot, but would you live to tell about it?
@916ppl Panther was not a "fat" target, look at the Cromwell or the Pershing, but I agree with you that the german tanks weren't designed for infantry support.
German 88's are far too weak for their price. You need a specific Doctrineto obtain them, as well as needing a sniper or basic infantry as spotters for the 88. Plus they cost WAAY too much upkeep, and a single strafing run will clean the crew off it every fucking time. 88's are useless when you compare cost to what u get for it.
If the americans didnt have that gun they would have nothing in COH. My tiger is weaker than that gun. Its overpowered and when you play agains the PC in skirmish, it only uses that M1 and nothing else! It sucks...
ResidencijaZLA 3 weeks ago
In real situation, that the 88 Flak, will never defeated by 57mm ATG. except the flak got pinned down!
5470271 2 months ago
everything is fragile to Chuck Norris.
KittyFooFo0 3 months ago
You cannot dislike for 1 reason:
He didnt want people go away when they see the like-dislike bar. obvious -.-
abacs21 5 months ago
bullshit vid!
GfMThomas 5 months ago
lol the 88 is ordered to attack ground and the AT was out of sight
phudn 6 months ago
Those 57mm are so overpowered in this game... I find it stupid they they outrange, outgun and have more strength than 2-3 Marder III Tank Destroyers, more accurate as well, especially considering they're cheaper, use less pop and require no fuel.
TheREALAlexsplat 7 months ago
@TheREALAlexsplat I completely agree with you dude.
metropolice101 5 months ago
Why you click Flak 88 to attack ground ??? Monkey!
82difovac 8 months ago
57mm = 150 damage per shot. 88 HP = 325. Therefore it dies to 3 anti tank gun shots.
SpeedyEIRR1 8 months ago
all of them where unfair fights.In the first one it didn't even turned.In the second one it was shooting in the wrong direction and in the third one it was two against one.
In reality flack 88 would have kicked 57mms ass.Any one else who agry thumbs up!
BlackSc0rp10n1 8 months ago 41
how can you say vs, they are not fighing eachother
IStehSHIT 9 months ago 3
Guys, check the description for once, it's a TEST that's why the flak is also targetting ground! ^^
broworm1 9 months ago
If my mortar or infantry didn't demolish the infantries yet, I'll be damned
jackyan22 1 year ago
this might be one of the reasons why i dont play vanilla coh anymore...
the gameplay of the unmodded game is just impossible to play if you have the smalles knowlegde of reality and performance of guns and armour in the game.
go and try blitzkrieg mod man^^
Nebukadnezarthe2nd 1 year ago
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd What are some mods you recommend? I tried the Russian thing...didn't like it.
cchanderson 1 year ago
@cchanderson
Blitzkrieg mod is perhaps the best mod, and it has a loyal following. Its probably the most realistic game, where a Tiger Tank or JagDPanther can take out a Sherman in 1 shot, and its got ALOT more vehicles and such.
Battle of the Bulge mod is good too.
GeneralBurkhalter1 1 year ago
88 should be single shot kill just like the real thing
bakkus1985 1 year ago
There SERIOUSLY should be a patch on that if not already
SabreWolferos 1 year ago
i was playing a map against the u.s and i had a choke point pinned with 2 flaks and the AI player would keep sending planes to do strafing runs against me so i got some anti air defense and what happens 5 min later? a shot down plane crashes right into my flak letting the U.S push there shermans through, it sucked i won though :)
SUPERPEENUT 1 year ago
actually they fixed this in a recent patch just a programing error
nightangel9360 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 don't forget the allies had the British empire which at the time( before we gave are countries independence) we where a massive nation I'd say just as powerful as the U.S
ollieoxe 1 year ago
next you should make a video to show how fragile everything else is to the flak 88 lol
faxmachineman1000 1 year ago 65
@faxmachineman1000 How fragile?? Lol, did you not see that 57mm get hit twice by the 88?? And still not die....thats bullshit
wehrmacht132 1 year ago
@wehrmacht132 at guns have a resistance against at rounds. it's the only real answer the allies have to german armour
faxmachineman1000 1 year ago
I don't get the point of this video.
The 88 does not need to be very well armored. You put 1 or 2 layers of sandbags around it, 1 or 2 bunkers covering it and it will blast everything away within seconds.
Not shooting snipers cover the area where the enemies come from, and you have a defense that can only be defeated by artillery.
EdmansTube2008 1 year ago
@EdmansTube2008
or flamer engi
XxAncientxXX 1 year ago
@XxAncientxXX
Bunkers. I usually put some barbed wire to force the enemy troops into death zone and some mines behind the parts where it would be dangerous if they cut the wire.
EdmansTube2008 1 year ago
why the shit music??? i want to hear the 88 music!!
hivemind99999 1 year ago
Pershing beat the fucking POS panther so fuck off Germany... American steel will always be 100000 better then u... Brits will Always be better than Germany, and their intel. and with their firefly,( built on American steel) the French......... needs help... a lot!
CKYguy1213 1 year ago
@CKYguy1213 Lol, the pershing only saw limited combat in WW2 because it was so delayed. also your forgetting the fact that at the time Germany had the most advanced technology and, almost all of the axis armor was destroyed by allied air. so that means that allied tanks basically did nothing. Except for The Russian tank's.
CptShinanigans91 1 year ago
@CptShinanigans91 No. Rocket power? Child play to the Atomic bomb.
916ppl 1 year ago
@CKYguy1213 shut up you stupid yank.
go fuck yourself
g36c1 1 year ago
@CKYguy1213
there is only one possible answer to this rant.
'GHEEEEERMAN STEEEEEHL' XD
GundamReviver 1 year ago
en la realidad el flak de 88mm destroza al antitanque de 57mm , es física y lógica.
Vaakhor 1 year ago
i hate when the AI spams AI guns
alejeron 1 year ago
Idiot it dies so quickly because 88 is not shooting back. I can see you trying to point 88 in a different direction :(
metargear123 1 year ago
DIE SONG DIE
popperboyable 1 year ago
whats this song called?
stukabomber44 1 year ago
@stukabomber44 it's sound system-dreamscape:Dhope it helped
DAHAKA666777888 1 year ago
honestly, 88's in the game are not even close to being modeled. 88's could hit targets 2000yards easly, and were known to hit targets out to 8000 yards at times from hill tops. 88's could be used for both artilery and direct fire. there just underpowered in most games
kitsychan 1 year ago
The name of this game is Company of Heroes a RTS Game
This is a MOST PERFECT game in the Word
TheBrasil533 1 year ago
@TheBrasil533 "MOST PERFECT". Are you sarcastic? :P
MikkoBitti 1 year ago
What is the name of this game?
MrRonaldinho12 1 year ago
@MrRonaldinho12 WOW FAIL LOOK AT THE TITLE
holycrapith 1 year ago
what game is this?
eaglesrock101penguin 1 year ago
company of heroes
spartan73 1 year ago
I noticed the flak guns weren't shooting at the anti-tank guns. Anyway, I'll take your word for it that the anti-tank gun would win, I'm pretty sure I've used them in the past to take out flak guns. I just recently started playing and realized that snipers and anti-tank guns or snipers and flak guns together are like the ultimate defensive team, very little gets past them. If a sniper was with the flak gun then it would have taken out the anti-tank gun no problem.
SabreTooth123 1 year ago
the reason why the flak 88 isnt firing back is because hes probably using this video while hes fighting the computer, not a human opponent, and that the AT guns are able to fire past their range of sight if you have someone to scout for them, so they probably had a sniper or something near the Flak 88 so that the AT gun could see it, the computer always does it to me and it gets extremely annoying really fast, especially when you got about 6 tanks rolling in.
poodie56 1 year ago
@poodie56 Makes sense. I usually do that with my flak guns since they have a huge range. It lets them function as great offensive and defensive weapons.
SabreTooth123 1 year ago
Bullshit.
DziadekMroz89 1 year ago 48
Well, an 88 can destroy that overpowered piece of crap in 2 hits.
YaYzIwInZ 1 year ago
@YaYzIwInZ
but the accuracy against AT gun is very low. in the other hand, AT always hit 88.
rax7 1 year ago
lie! 88 will own that small thing
steven311430 1 year ago
actually Id say this is largely accurate, keep in mind the size of the two guns, the 57mm has a tiny profile where as the 88, being designed as an anti aircraft gun, has a massive profile, you couldnt miss it even you tried
But mind you this is really a quite irrelevant test,,,I dont think i ever heard of anti tank guns being used to take on 88's...
sajuuk212 1 year ago
They aren't, the 88mm can destroy a 57mm gun within 2 shots.
oOCrossroadsOo 1 year ago
@oOCrossroadsOo in real life it'd be less than that IF it hit the 57mm, remember 57 is very small in comparison, the 88 on the other hand is almost as big a profile as a small tank, makes a world of difference
sajuuk212 1 year ago
Yeah but the 88mm is very accurate as well... so it would depend of how the 57mm is hiden, etc... And I was actualy speaking about the game, not real life :) In real life things would have depend of a lot of different factors that aren't in the game.
oOCrossroadsOo 1 year ago
@oOCrossroadsOo oh right, well yeah in that case in the game the 88 would most likely of won ,,, kinda forgot the game twists reality a tiny bit here and there
sajuuk212 1 year ago
It depends again. Sometimes (not often though) the 88mm misses his target :P
oOCrossroadsOo 1 year ago
@oOCrossroadsOo oh ive noticed its not often, playing the mission where youre in la bocarge (or however you spell it) and you gotta take hill 192, decided meh balls to it I shall take my group of shermans through the road,,,sherman goes on road,,,shell fire sounds,,,sherman explodes
Nasty gun nasty nasty, perfect ambush weapon
sajuuk212 1 year ago
no offense but ur wronger then hell ur the dumb one this song is nice cna u think of a better one?
steven311430 1 year ago
Kind of a meh test, really. All the shots you show are fired on to the exposed side of the 88, where it has the weakest armor. Plus, there's no effort made to protect the 88, such as sandbags or supporting snipers or infantry.
BaronFelX 2 years ago 2
shit song good game
Fahrscheinkontrolle 2 years ago 2
company of hero ..enjoy man!!
tonadasan 2 years ago
Umm shows how fragile it it if it was a test you#d have the flak firing back.
dannyjojolfc 2 years ago 2
game name?
tanker971 2 years ago
is that a game? because if it is then where did you buy it
MrBigdin 2 years ago
Yes its a game, its called Company Of Heroes.
You can buy it at Steam. or Ebay i guess
MrRoboh 2 years ago
its worth it as well
james6394 2 years ago
The game is called company of heros
talkron300 2 years ago
why must every video be ruined with techno?
trifist 2 years ago
its not techno. It is some type of electronic music, but not techno. And why must be under every video some stupid comment? ;)
YoZzzeWF 2 years ago
@YoZzzeWF why is there always someone who has to say its not techno in every videos that has techno
BigSamBoy1 2 years ago
Cause you are noob about electronic music and knows nothing about it. Go and play your game and let the electronic music be....
YoZzzeWF 2 years ago
@YoZzzeWF Why do you argue about music on COMPANY OF HEROES??? So what if im a noob in electronic music, at least i dont go and nag about the type of music and start argument with people who says its techno. Go and try to play your electronic music and let people be...
BigSamBoy1 2 years ago
Man... I was looking for videos about 88 Flak and I spotted your comment. Now you are cleverer and you know, that this type of music is not techno. So I really don´t know what are you complaining about ;)
YoZzzeWF 2 years ago
Mn wish he could do without the Techno...I hate that crap!
cchanderson 2 years ago
That´s your opinion, I don´t care.
YoZzzeWF 2 years ago
Arguing about real world power is pointless. It's a game first and the AT gun is a hard counter to vehicles and emplacements. The 88 is plenty powerful and has huge range, but IMO costs too much pop and res wise.
I'd say a cost of like 6 pop and a drop to like 300mp/40 or 50 fuel would be fair. It is rather easy to arty spam due to it's static nature (though it must be noted it can often be re-crewed, it takes a lucky or heavy bombardment to actually trash the gun)
Tk3997 2 years ago
Yeah, and it's great for defending choke points.
Superbiz2 2 years ago
play blitzkrieg mod !!
realistic!!
44JohnCena44 2 years ago
Bah flack 88 would pown tht pesky antitank gun...
darnocslew 2 years ago 19
this is why i play men of war!
deadkillah411 2 years ago
Thats one of the weaknesses of the 88, if it doesnt have range of the enemy nearby , its usually vaulnerable unless if your smart like me , and use " Attack Ground " =P.
diangoman 2 years ago
haha unreal shit
that 57mm or 6 pounder wheight more than 1 ton!!!
2 man couldnt lift that thing
g36c1 2 years ago 5
Yes 2 men could lift it, its called using the strength of your back and arms as well as using the wheels as a pivot point. And this is realistic as the Americans did face the German 88's often, but at the same time isn't because they rarely got a chance to attack them with AT guns.
Tririnity 2 years ago
hahahahaha
the weight of a 57 antitank gun is almost 1 ton !!!
g36c1 2 years ago
Of course they couldn't pick the whole thing up or move it very far. Look at the way the gun is designed. Almost all of the gun barrel is sticking out of the shield, which moves 2 thirds of the weight to the front of the gun. The other weight (the shield and breach block) are on top of the wheels. They mostly used trucks to move them around. I have been on a 57mm before and you need 2 moderately strong people to be able to pick it up.
Tririnity 2 years ago
@g36c1 hell yea
tomekl119 1 year ago
@g36c1 it weight 1140 kg but can be lifted be 3 or 4 mans company of heroes is good strategy game
sgtgutvirt 1 year ago
problem is, in reality 88 guns were the terror... not because of rate of fire, or defensive capabilities per say but because of their range and power. they were very effective at hitting anything that moved out to 1000m but were often employed to take out targets as for as 4000m, thats over 2.4 miles. and thats in direct fire mode, they could lob shells indireclty out to 8 miles as artillery. put in a defensive location they could domanate a field. And little coud be done untill you close
kitsychan 2 years ago 4
what kind of game is it write in my pm
piktulis 2 years ago
company of heroes or company of heroes oposing fronts
sos2121a 2 years ago
should makee 88s arty too, it can be the whers stationary arty
IRELANDSELITE 2 years ago
wat game is this looks cool
purx3ranger 2 years ago
company of heros
Spectra989 2 years ago
how much is cost?
purx3ranger 2 years ago
The 88 is a fire magnet in COH. I stopped using them because it turned into a waste of resources to watch as the inevitable arty strike was sent against it a few seconds after its first shot.
This is really biased towards the At guns. They wouldn't be able to get a shot off let alone kill the 88 before it had them sighted and destroyed with 1 shot.
Satyr910 2 years ago
yeah I highly doubt the 88 would fall before taking out a 57 easily
Gestapo1940 2 years ago
This is so biased. The anti tank guns of the brit will be destroyed before they would be able to make it. The german 88 has a very long range and I doubt that in a real battle a player would let a brit get close to his precious killing (stationary) machine and a flak 88 is always accompanied by squads of machine gun and sandbags that's why this vid is simply unrealistic.
shimattadeshou 2 years ago
stupid
in this video are yanks
not brithish soldiers
and yeah total unrealistic
g36c1 2 years ago 2
infair for 88 shooting at other target
joshuahimself 2 years ago
This is so unrealistic
7silversteve 2 years ago 5
hey guy that´s unrealistic shit!
1.) all the 88´s there hasn´t attack one of the british at´s
2.) it´s a fact that the british soldiers NEVER placed their at-guns closer than 1000m to one of those 88´s
And 3.) NO FUCKING GERMAN SOLDIER WOULD´N LET STAND AROUND AN 88mm GUN ALONE !!!! their 88´s has ever been covered an protected by Infantrists and their Sdkfz 250. Carriers even they tried to camouflage it!! 0/5 ...
DieBismarck1 2 years ago 11
the guy with the 88 is just a noob:p
BroSlaughterNL 2 years ago
@DieBismarck1 It's a video game. Get over it.
despair2ko 1 year ago
also possible :D
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 you dumb fuck.
rossi213 1 year ago
@rossi213 I´m right that´s all
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 You're a fucking idiot, it's a game, don't lose your rag over it.
Dirty german...
franka64 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 lol dude its a game XDDD
Feedi112 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 Wow it's a game. What were you there in WWII to witness all of that?
ameraz4126 1 year ago
@ameraz4126 nope..... i´m just wondering because in all of those games they say "the most realistic game you´ve ever played!" an slo that mad guy who postet this video says in the discription: Test to show how fragile the 88 flak is against anti tank guns. WTF??? he beleves that shit what the programmers of coh are telling him that it would be "the most realistic wwii game you´ve ever played"......
Your turn m8 .....
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 No he's testing how the in game flak 88 is against the in game 57 mm. No where does he say this is a real life comparison. You are talking about the original poster of this video right?
ameraz4126 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 ur really right the fucking 88 kicks ass
kemistryset1 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 its a game? lol i know its an old comment xD
CptShinanigans91 1 year ago
@CptShinanigans91 u know... everyone has his own priorities....
in my eyes it is impossible to see that the allies won the war and either need to tell everyone how "good" american warfare was... with thus games.
my opinion is that: just because the allies won the war they could now have the eggs to say... even if the most of thus were nazis, but ohh shit they had such good weapons and soldiers!!!
Know what i mean?
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
@CptShinanigans91 im not a nazi and i really dont like hitler and his way of making politics in killing innocent jews or making war because its fun....
But i´m a good friend of germany because i am german! and it is allowed to be proud of your own coutry.... i hope you think that way too
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 Yea I see what you mean and, i do agree with what you said on hitler. About killing innocent jews and, making war because it was fun and, i'm also German and, i'm proud of my country and heritage.
CptShinanigans91 1 year ago
@CptShinanigans91 na dann verstehen wir uns doch oder :D bin froh das ichs auf englisch erklären konnte :P
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
@DieBismarck1 Ja, aber leider kann ich kein Deutsch Gerste, hoffentlich diese Übersetzung ist korrekt Ich bin nicht der beste xD
CptShinanigans91 1 year ago
@CptShinanigans91 yip understood :D
DieBismarck1 1 year ago
I dont like this test.
The 88 dont attack the at-gun.
sewagii 2 years ago 5
i didnt get it :d
dinozzo69 2 years ago
man i wish i could upgrade the video card on my laptop
pc rts ownz i have to suffer with inferior products
ever try playing supcom on 360? well dont
BinaryComa 2 years ago
Song: Dreamscape (short radio edit)
Artist: 009 Sounds System
jojozemonkey 2 years ago
the game is Company of Heroes
Railguncr 2 years ago 2
what game is it
ymmit2020 2 years ago
the 88´s didnt attack...... they would blow the 57mm there asses up -.-
Milenium155 2 years ago
lol you would think so but my 88's fired nonstop until a single shell from the 57 blew it up.
KnightmareRaver9 2 years ago
The 57mm is so OP, it isn't funny. OP range, OP damage, OP survivability.
The 88, like many Axis weapons, are killed too easily and are hard/too expensive to replace. The Axis got jipped hard.
WTCTribute 2 years ago 15
@WTCTribute: very true!
@DieBismarck1: well youre right that the at was managed badly BUT it also showed that the 88s AI doesnt respond to the AT gun. the 88 priorises tanks>vehcles>other, meaning it will ALWAYS let itself be shot by at guns if not microed(while you have to micro your infantry that would normally defend the 88). i often find my 88s killed by ats because of the following cause:
godmode86 1 year ago
US is advancing->88 is firing at the first incoming tank or inf->aAT gun bashes the now revealed 88 from Fog Of War distance->trying to hit AT with 88->88 turning and/or reloading until AT is cloaked in FOW again->88 turns again to other US units->AT hitting it again->trying to kill AT with infantry->running into bars suppressive fire/HMG suppressive fire/flamethrower->retreat->88down(if not way before the infantry retreats since US uses more than one AT gun).
btw the 57mmAT is US not british
godmode86 1 year ago
last but not least i often see ppl arguing about the pak38 being better than the 57mm because it has 7mm less and penedrates armor better, BUT 1) its totally logical that a smaller bullet has more penedration power, a spear can penedrate much better than a hammer doesnt it? and 2) the pak needs to stay cloaked aka defensive in position to deal more damage to armor while the 75mm can be used in offense and do even more damage with at rounds while the pak doesnt even do half the dmg in offense
godmode86 1 year ago
@godmode86 agreed, the 88mm for example, is akin to a sledgehammer hitting an inch thick piece of iron while the 57mm is like a steak knife to a block of butter. ultimately, the key is how large the powder charge is and how great the range is to the target. with some other factors thrown in as well such as the angle of the armor and how thick it is. if it is like the T-34 than you have to be awefully close to hope to penetrate at a flat angle (say, on a plane or in a flat field).
Hiigaranwarrior159 1 year ago
@WTCTribute ah what to say it would be stupid that alies dont have some OP weapons cuz german tanks are just just so hard to destroy by alied tanks only the pershing and sherman firefly are strong enough to destroy a panther :S
kiki0391 1 year ago
@WTCTribute yeah, and ontop of all their things overpowerd, the at guns are DIRT cheap!!
unclepoepoe 1 year ago
@WTCTribute an 88 could destroy a Sherman tank in one shot, shoot down aircraft, and be used as artillery. They were expensive, and thus were always well protected by sand bags infantry. A Panther could destroy a Sherman in one shot, a Panzer four could destroy one in two shots. And most of the time, German Grenadiers were better trained, equipped and led than American troops.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879
on the fact about the better trained and led than American troops, that depends. First on the branch and second at what point during the war. u have to understand that most of the german soldiers had been fighting since the blitz in 39 if not the first world war. ill give them the training, in the beginning, not later.
fatfreepenguin 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879
the leadership too. but ill only credit the germans with being good early war. after 42 with the north africa campaign and sicily, they lost their betterness. the only thing the germans kept to b number 1 was their tank tech and even that was pwned but the late war, mass produced, sloped armored, russian tanks.
fatfreepenguin 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879
the luftwaffe was mutilated during the failed battle of britain. and american infantry was better equiped minus the sturmgewer. the early war employment of the m1garand may have won the war along with tactical brilliance and overwhelming air superiority. um yeah... i think im done.
fatfreepenguin 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879
the luftwaffe was mutilated during the failed battle of britain. and american infantry was better equiped minus the sturmgewer. the early war employment of the m1garand may have won the war along with tactical brilliance and overwhelming air superiority. um yeah... i think im done.
fatfreepenguin 1 year ago
@fatfreepenguin The American were almost all ways inexperienced compared to the Germans, and the Germans had guns like the MP40, which was more powerful than the Thompson, the Gewer (don't know if that's spelled right), could outperform the m1 at short distances, (Don't get me wrong it was a great gun) and the panzersrech was better than the bazzoka. Oh, and only 10% of the Wermact was in Normandy, but it was utter hell, even with total air support over the Germans.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 mp40 pos always jammed, and again, who won the war? allies did
CKYguy1213 1 year ago
@CKYguy1213 Off course the Allies won, they had the two most powerful industries on earth on their side, America and Russia. They could simply out produce the Germans. And the Thompson jammed far more than the mp40, especially with the drum mag.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 the drum mag was barely used, it was the M1A1 Thompson that was used, with the regular stick mag.
CKYguy1213 11 months ago
@CKYguy1213 Sorry, but you're a fucked up retard. I'm guessing you're a fanatical little Russian fanboy, correct?
Go search "Berlinvoss ppsh41", then watch his MP40 video. Allieds won the war, Germans pioneered everything. Don't forget that the average German soldier was 20 times more effective than any allied soldier during the ending stages.
firearms2k 1 year ago
@firearms2k are u kidding me? fuck the ppsh41, the mp40 did jam
CKYguy1213 11 months ago
@CKYguy1213 5 months later reply, gg. I don't see the point in your comment, any gun will jam. The PPSh41 just had that problem a lot more. There's a reason they replaced it with stick mags, and then again with the improved, and easier to produce PPSh43.
If you're referring to the 2 videos I recommended, then no. The MP-40 did not jam a single time(compared to the PPSh41), count all the shots off yourself and see that he's firing the entire clip(32 rounds.)
firearms2k 11 months ago
@mommasboy8879 You don't even know what you're talking about, do you? The Thompson is chambered in .45, the MP-40 in 9MM Para. When you're refering to the "Gewehr"(Which is German for "Rifle"), I'm sure you mean the G43. In any case, how does this make any sense with your comparison? Are you talking about the M1 Carbine, or the M1 Garand? You deserve some cake for knowing that of the Panzerschreck though, go buy some - you deserve it.
firearms2k 1 year ago
@firearms2k When I said the MP40 was more powerful then the Thompson I meant that it was a better gun overall. It would not jam constantly and would perform better in battlefield conditions. When I said M1 I meant the M1 grand, and also the BAR was a terrible gun just so you know, it jammed, had to small a clip, and weighed down the soldier carrying it. (Just felt like saying that) And the Germans had the STG, the worlds first assault rifle. And now I'm going to get some cake :)
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 Good you deserve some! Next time you feel like commenting, work on your English(and save some cake for me).
The Thompson M1A1 didn't have jamming problems, count the US, because they were not using drum magazines. The tommies however did, and suffered the consequences(Thompson M1928). The way you wrote it, made it seem rather wrong, because the problem with the Thompson is that it's too powerful with its .45 round - rendering it more inaccurate.
firearms2k 1 year ago
@firearms2k actually, my grandfather fought in WW2 (British side) and he said he never used the Tompson M1A1 because every time he tried it, it jammed. He said it needed to be kept to clean to fire properly.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 Very interesting. Albeit true depending on the extent, this accounts for all firearms.
firearms2k 1 year ago
@firearms2k thank's for not being a asshole about me being right.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 Hard to say that when in battle reports German infantry preform, well in a way, like the Russians when against American and British troops. The German tanks were only design for tank combat and failed miserably to protect their infantry. Not mentioning Panther and Tigers were nice fat targets for American Bazookas men.
916ppl 1 year ago
@916ppl So your saying that they kick the American and British troops ass? Because that's what the Russian troops did to quite a few of their enemies. And 90% of the German army was infantry, and the grenadiers had excellent training and leadership. Not only that, but unless you got extremely lucky, you would have a hard time killing a Tiger or Panther with a bazooka at anything but extremely close range. At least a Panzerfoust could destroy a tank from more than five feet away.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 You are a dumb ass. Shaped charged weapon do not lose penetrate over range. You lack information so do not try to correct people.
916ppl 1 year ago
@916ppl I don't even know what your trying to say???? And I have an IQ of 137.
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@mommasboy8879 You have an IQ of 137 yet you still don't know the difference between "you're" and "your".
Fail.
Armydude991 1 year ago
@Armydude991 So you're argument is about my spelling, and mine is about what we're talking about, riiiight. So, some estimates of the effectiveness of a bazooka say that it would only reliably perform at 8 feet, suicidally close to a Panzer 4. You could destroy a German tank in one shot, but would you live to tell about it?
mommasboy8879 1 year ago
@mommasboy8879 Well, he is making battle reports out of nothing. Bazookas did nothing to tanks by the way, if you don't count the lucky shots.
ViperCanel 1 year ago
@916ppl Panther was not a "fat" target, look at the Cromwell or the Pershing, but I agree with you that the german tanks weren't designed for infantry support.
elovetense01 1 year ago
what game is this?
MrDesiballer 2 years ago
Look at the tags.
azile0 2 years ago
song name?
carabeta 2 years ago
It freaking pops up half way through the video, could it not be more obvious?
thest3alth 2 years ago
Look at the popup.
azile0 2 years ago
German 88's are far too weak for their price. You need a specific Doctrineto obtain them, as well as needing a sniper or basic infantry as spotters for the 88. Plus they cost WAAY too much upkeep, and a single strafing run will clean the crew off it every fucking time. 88's are useless when you compare cost to what u get for it.
LordDivine1 2 years ago