You need to follow the directions given by the manufacturer. I'm not terribly up with how to deal with leather seals. All my guns have the modern seals.
hello Rick, I will admit to being alittle lax with barrel cleaning on any of my air rifles, but I do add some crosman pelletgun oil on the spring and in the chamber when needed. The idea being the build up of lead in the barrel would give tighter groups as the pellets would be constricted slightly, but of course this would mean less grab from the rifling grooves. I have friends who never clean their .22LR for this same reason with mixed results.
It is a mixed bag of results.. my thinking is this.. as the pellet moves through a dirty barrel, lead is stripped from the pellet. Even if only in minute amounts, this causes the pellet to be out of balance when spinning, like a tire weight. You don't need much to make a very big difference. More lead in the barrel usually means more lead is removed as the pellet heads down the bore. At least that is my theory.
@AirGunWeb I have read on various sites that regularly cleaning the barrel and all other parts of a springer are not necessarily needed to keep it shooting, just taking care of the chamber is needed.
there are a lot of people with a lot of opinions out there. I used the RWS kit with and RWS rifle for a reason. They make the gun, they make the Kit. I figure they are the ones that know best on how to maintain it. I will say that following this method will not hurt your spring gun. On the other hand, it is also true that these are essentially "maintenance free" for the most part. It is all very subjective.
It’s about 4 weeks from de last video. In this period of time I was concerned. What happened whit Rick?
Now! I now … it is the new fresh lock. lol lol lol. (I hope has not been anything serious!) Another great video of Rick. (Do not forget to make a video of how to clean a fixed barrel (spring or pcp))
What about fixed barrels such as the Gamo CFX .177. I had bought a gamo cleaning kit, but the push rod broke on the first cleaning I tried. It did not want to push through the barrel.
The CFX and CFR can be tricky. You have to come from the front of the gun vs pushing from the breach. You need a flexible jag also so that you don't bend things when it his the breach tray.
Great vid Rick. Quick ?. Even after cleaning my daisy 1000s springer, I just dont see how I can use the artillery hold in conjunction with a tripod rest for field hunting.
If you can find the right mounting point and install a sling stud and then a bipod to the stock, you can have some success.. I'm hoping to get my trail setup that way to see if it will work correctly.
@AirGunWeb try putting the bipod on backwards like with the legs towards you when its closed so that it lets the gun recoil and doesnt force the shot somewhere else
I generally agree with you. If you are able to take the gun apart and rebuild it with moly on a regular basis it is much better. But, if you don't have a spring compressor or the inclination to void your warranty, then this is a good method. I know there are some that will strongly disagree and that is certainly their option. Given that RWS produces this kit and recommends it for their guns, then I feel it is safe to use.
Thank you Rick. I bought the RWS 34 on your recommendation and I was hoping you would do a maintenance video. That gun has exceeded my expectations for power and accuracy.
what about guns with leather piston seals? 3-in-1 oil bad for spring guns?
kumquatsta 3 months ago
@kumquatsta
You need to follow the directions given by the manufacturer. I'm not terribly up with how to deal with leather seals. All my guns have the modern seals.
Rick
AirGunWeb 3 months ago
hello Rick, I will admit to being alittle lax with barrel cleaning on any of my air rifles, but I do add some crosman pelletgun oil on the spring and in the chamber when needed. The idea being the build up of lead in the barrel would give tighter groups as the pellets would be constricted slightly, but of course this would mean less grab from the rifling grooves. I have friends who never clean their .22LR for this same reason with mixed results.
Cheers
theplaid1 3 months ago
@theplaid1
It is a mixed bag of results.. my thinking is this.. as the pellet moves through a dirty barrel, lead is stripped from the pellet. Even if only in minute amounts, this causes the pellet to be out of balance when spinning, like a tire weight. You don't need much to make a very big difference. More lead in the barrel usually means more lead is removed as the pellet heads down the bore. At least that is my theory.
Cheers
Rick
AirGunWeb 3 months ago
Nothing wrong with a little maintenance.
kriegmeister3000 3 months ago
Rick, Pyramidair has an app for smart phones which is real cool. It has calculaters for just about everything one would use in airguns.
kriegmeister3000 3 months ago
It's been a long time my friend. I have both a rifle and pistol that are springers. I will use this information to keep them up to par.
kriegmeister3000 4 months ago
@kriegmeister3000
Glad this video has helped. I enjoyed putting this one together.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
@AirGunWeb I have read on various sites that regularly cleaning the barrel and all other parts of a springer are not necessarily needed to keep it shooting, just taking care of the chamber is needed.
Is this true?
harriet807 2 months ago
@harriet807
there are a lot of people with a lot of opinions out there. I used the RWS kit with and RWS rifle for a reason. They make the gun, they make the Kit. I figure they are the ones that know best on how to maintain it. I will say that following this method will not hurt your spring gun. On the other hand, it is also true that these are essentially "maintenance free" for the most part. It is all very subjective.
Clear as mud no?
Rick
AirGunWeb 2 months ago
Long time no see!!!
It’s about 4 weeks from de last video. In this period of time I was concerned. What happened whit Rick?
Now! I now … it is the new fresh lock. lol lol lol. (I hope has not been anything serious!) Another great video of Rick. (Do not forget to make a video of how to clean a fixed barrel (spring or pcp))
Best regards
hammerli2011 4 months ago
What about fixed barrels such as the Gamo CFX .177. I had bought a gamo cleaning kit, but the push rod broke on the first cleaning I tried. It did not want to push through the barrel.
redline1953 4 months ago
@redline1953
The CFX and CFR can be tricky. You have to come from the front of the gun vs pushing from the breach. You need a flexible jag also so that you don't bend things when it his the breach tray.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
Is that a Sumatra in the background? It's beautiful... :D. Your new look looks great too lol.
lambchops1493 4 months ago
@lambchops1493
it is .357 Big Bore.. I hope to have that video out in December.. should be fun!
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
Nice video Rick, and nice beard too. ;)
xxxcrosmanhunterxxx 4 months ago
Great vid Rick. Quick ?. Even after cleaning my daisy 1000s springer, I just dont see how I can use the artillery hold in conjunction with a tripod rest for field hunting.
pyrochargerfan 4 months ago
@pyrochargerfan
Using a bi-pod is a generally not going to work with a spring gun. You need to just master the artillery hold and forget the bi-pod.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
@AirGunWeb m benjamin super streak seamed to get along very good with a bipod but not the barrel kind no break barrels ive had has liked those
alrodrodriguez 4 months ago
@alrodrodriguez
If you can find the right mounting point and install a sling stud and then a bipod to the stock, you can have some success.. I'm hoping to get my trail setup that way to see if it will work correctly.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
@AirGunWeb i mounted the stud at the same point that your front hand would be using the artillery hold and that seemed to do the trick
alrodrodriguez 4 months ago
@alrodrodriguez
I'm trying that with my Trail NP.. not had great success but it is worth trying.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
@AirGunWeb try putting the bipod on backwards like with the legs towards you when its closed so that it lets the gun recoil and doesnt force the shot somewhere else
alrodrodriguez 4 months ago
@alrodrodriguez
Yep.. tried that.. I'm just not getting the same groups as I get when I shoot using the artillery hold.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
@AirGunWeb may be the gas piston just isnt compatible with bipods
alrodrodriguez 4 months ago
My airgun has a nitro piston. Is there maintenence that needs to be done on that?
ds10363 4 months ago
@ds10363
It is about the same.. you can skip step 5 as there is no "spring" that needs oil.
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
I'm an advocate of nothing gets into the chamber than moly grease. I wouldn't pour any liquid inside the chamber.
bfgguns 4 months ago
@bfgguns
I generally agree with you. If you are able to take the gun apart and rebuild it with moly on a regular basis it is much better. But, if you don't have a spring compressor or the inclination to void your warranty, then this is a good method. I know there are some that will strongly disagree and that is certainly their option. Given that RWS produces this kit and recommends it for their guns, then I feel it is safe to use.
Cheers
Rick
AirGunWeb 4 months ago
Thank you Rick. I bought the RWS 34 on your recommendation and I was hoping you would do a maintenance video. That gun has exceeded my expectations for power and accuracy.
supremetalentco 4 months ago
Great job!
bigmanalexio 4 months ago