NEAL ADAMS and JACK KIRBY

[Cosmictalk]

@jonWRowe totally agree with you, I have been an artist comic book collector and Neal has new books out true to his style currently but Byrne stop being Byrne year ago!

[toodiesel]

what an effing genius: @5:07 he basically foreshadows gn/tpb

[mocktheflock]

absolutely brilliant. A true artist

[BrandonNielsen87]

Can someone please tell me a good book about Jack Kirby? I have no idea who he is, or why people give him so much credit.

[PintelaComoQuiera]

@BrandonNielsen87 according to some, you must buy The Bible... lol

[jaymusseato]

>jack kirby art is HIGH art....PERIOD.

[brabon1]

if anyone attends a con that mr adams is at...go have a chat with him

he is one of the most brilliant men in the industry

[leonbrain68]

Jolly Jack Kirby, AKA Jack King Kirby!!!!

[tedm1975]

What The Beatles did with music in the 1960's. Stan,Jack and Steve did to super hero comics in the 1960's and beyond.

[tedm1975]

What The Beatles with with music in the 1960's. Stan,Jack and Steve did with super hero's in the 1960's and beyond.

[melbea03]

Kirby is the all father,if you or i like it or not

[JonWRowe]

Kirby could get away with mass produced quick drawn stuff.

Byrne, unfortunately, can't. Byrne was better when he tried to be Neal Adams, as opposed to when he tried to be a Jack Kirby who could mass produce comic book art, instead of spend time working on detail and anatomy.

[itzjoeymac]

Genius

[luvdomus]

The genius of Jack Kirby is where it all begins and ends. Neal Adams is good too.

[toonozandy]

Jack Kirby is the "KING" of comics, nobody even comes close.

[harveydents]

KIRBY is GOD.... I know that George Lucas was inspired by new gods and the fantastic four, and by combining darkseid with dr. doom he devleoped a little charcter called DARTH VADER. If you go back now and read new gods it is SO obivious. Orion is really Darsides son, (luke is really darths son). Darkside uses omega red darth uses the force.... KIRBY was SO influential in all media/

[itzjoeymac]

what fascinates me most is how simple he makes it sound.

[themredweirdoshow]

@harveydents Based on my many decades of comic book study, I totally agree that there would be no Star Wars as we know it without Jack Kirby. Star Trek, on the other hand, was much more of a Wallace Wood thing.

One creation louder and more dramatic, the other more subtle and brooding - yet each with its own rich quality and fascinating features, just like Kirby and Wood themselves, who also worked together on... what else? Space travel-related projects!

[harveydents]

@themredweirdoshow Yeah Dont forget Wood and Kirby worked on Sky Masters of the Space force!

[Bumtastic23]

THE KING

[mysterywalker]

Hmm... I wonder what the C on the chest means. I never noticed that before. This is very good to see, by the way.  Without this YT posting I promise I'd never have seen this

[cha5]

At 3:01-3:09? That's a G for Galactus,

Probably like Superman and the S

he wears.

[mysterywalker]

Heh... that is a G, isn't it? Nevermind why a cosmic being would have a roman letter on his chest...

[cha5]

Good point.

As an interesting bit of trivia supposedly Galactus was created as a result of a four word plot verbally given to Kirby from Stan Lee concerning Fantastic Four 48-50 'The Galactus Trilogy

'

"Have them fight God'

[mysterywalker]

That's what I've heard/read, as well. Generally the context is how much Kirby was a writer vs. how much Stan Lee was a writer

[frankdiddly]

Jack Kirby was a true visionary. He was the most important artist of the 20th century.

[hanshotfirst1138]

He was more important than many people give him credit for, I think.

[MiiZzRhOdEz312]

This guy is great

[taffysaur]

My two all-time favourite artists!! Thanks!!

[InvisibleRightLegLad]

I love this Kirby guy!

[wookie72]

What I want to know is who would be the Bob Dylan of comics? Alan Moore? Is Steve Ditko the Neil Peart of comics (heh heh)?

[shinobi1311991]

frnk miller is the portnoy of comics

[wookie72]

Heheh. I love this game. Actually, thinking again, regardless of his politics, Ditko would be more like Brian Wilson or Phil Spector - the uncompromising genius who suffered for his own vision.

[IG2HI]

That makes very little sense at all.

[wookie72]

How so? Like Spector and Wilson, Ditko refused to compromise his vision and became a recluse.

[IG2HI]

Yet unlike Spector and Wilson, Ditko didn't get strung out on drugs or became a nutjob record mogul accused of murder. A really uneven comparison and contrast. Marvel in the Silver Age had its own Gospel: Stan The Man was the Father, Roy Thomas the Son and Kirby the Holy Ghost. Ditko, Don Heck, Larry Lieber, Dick Ayers, The Buscemas and the Severins were apostles. I only saw Gil Kane, Neal Adams, Denny O'Neil and STERANKO as prophets then.

[wookie72]

Nonetheless, Ditko did suffer for refusing to compromise. I don't buy your Trinity analogy, if for one reason that Lee had a lot less to do with everything than he claims. Roy Thomas? He was always nothing more than a mouthpiece for Lee.

[itzjoeymac]

though Elvis did not last as a major figure and influence for nearly as long.

[wookie72]

Well, Hendrix only had at most a four year career. (Steranko would probably be a better analogy to Hendrix). Elvis was still influential, although he was kind of washed up by the time he died. I think that this makes him more like Kirby, though: Kirby lived long enough to be considered an "old hack" by the new generation. (The way he was treated in the 70s was shameful.)

[itzjoeymac]

Well, I agree they are the Lennon and Mccartney of comics but what does that make Kirby and Joe Simon? I don't think there is any other artist or writer who was part of the top team for 3 decades, then struck out completely alone and created 100 or so new characters completely his own, something Stan Lee could NEVER do. Stan is not the holy grail of writers but CLEARLY Jack Kirby is the undisputed King of comics, hence he truly is the JIMI HENDRIX.

[wookie72]

Not to slam Hedrix, but Elvis was the king of Rock n' Roll. That's not to say that he was the most innovative musician to ever play Rock, nor was everything he did original, but everything else was made possible because of him. Similarly, Kirby was obviously influenced by others (Caniff, Foster, Eisner), but his own impact was just as seismic on comics as Elvis was.

[itzjoeymac]

ok... given.

[itzjoeymac]

Kirby was more like the JIMI HENDRIX

[wookie72]

The more I hear about it, Kirby was the Elvis of comics and Stan Lee was his Colonel Parker. Or is that being a little mean?

[neakapla]

Lennon & McCartney is far more appropriate imo. Like the aforementioned song writing duo, Kirby & Lee had great success apart, but their best work was together.

[wookie72]

No analogy is perfect, but that is pretty good. For one thing, it was often assumed that Lennon was the "word" man and McCartney was the "music" man, when in fact their collaborations were much more complicated than that. Similarly, Kirby was much more than just the "art" guy, in spite of what Stan says.

[roblooks]

As someone mentioned, there may be artists (Adams obviously comes to mind)whose art is preferred; but Kirby created how the heroes & villains would look. He took an idea & like a god he made something where there was nothing before. That. That is talent & a canyon of imagination.

[JonWRowe]

Kirby's genius was as a creator of concepts, not necessarily as a "technical" artist. Much of his artwork was massed produced, and spread thin with many of the faces looking the same. It was still very creative and charming, but not for instance, as technically good as Adams' or George Perez's work.

But, as great as Perez is (my favorite artist) at drawing, he's hardly created squat re: memorable original characters, costumes, or concepts. That's where Kirby had it all over everyone else.

[barbedwirebat111]

ah. But i believe both lee and jack tie for greatest jew of all tim.

[DialBforBLOG]

And then there's JESUS. He never did comic books, but being the central figure in the history of the world isn't bad either!

[wookie72]

Yeah, also, um, Moses?

[mysterywalker]

And the guys who created Superman and the main three stars of the original Star Trek... and Woody Allen. And I guess Jesus was good, too... he did have some limited impact on history, if not the world of comics and prime time television.

[believerornot]

@DialBforBLOG

who? never heard of him!

[azuzaj1]

jack makes me cry when he talks he is a inspiration to all in the industry today.

[shallowmaster]

Smart man.

[itzjoeymac]

Another KIRBY CREATION, 'Iron Man', came out tonight and it was awesome. The artists from the time unilaterally profess that JACK KIRBY came up with almost all the ideas for characters. Still, Jack's name was not mentioned until the end credits in SMALL PRINT! It is so pathetic and I believe will soon backlash more than ever before considering the amount of KIRBY MOVIES in the past 7 or 8 years and the MANY YET TO COME. It was an improvement from X-men though who acted like Jack was a CATERER!

[wookie72]

Kirby didn't created Iron Man alone. Larry Lieber, Don Heck and (yes) Stan also did work.

[Stepper11]

I love Kirby, and we owe him more than words can say. He was just a working class joe trying to put food on the table. In the process, he tapped into the primordial Force that drives human dream and imagination, which are defining features of humanity itself. He was a force of nature - a shaman, a showman, and a Sherpa.

[Freethinker82]

Lol! I always admired Adams for his no-nonsense personality as well as his art. And Kirby, well, what can I say that hasn't already been said?

[luciaparamo]

From Argentina: Thanks for share this great video with the two of the greatest masters. I loved their work all my life. Thanks.

[hysangearring]

Neal Adams is as dynamic as his drawings, and Kirby to this day, is still the best storyteller of them all.

[djat2]

kamandi

[itzjoeymac]

Neal is correct in saying the idea man takes available ideas and makes them new but JACK KIRBY took the older ideas and made them so new that no one would ever recognize he had been influenced at all. as john lennon said, you really cannot totally do anything new, but jack kirby clearly came as close as possible. it is understandable that kirby was angry with stan lee since it so obvious kirby was the true VISIONARY. what did stan ever do without jack in the company??????????????

[mysterywalker]

Well... there was Steve Ditko, of course. The only thing Stan Lee unarguably brought to things was the ability to write dramatic dialogue. If you look at some of the later stuff Jack Kirby wrote on his own, the dialogue isn't as good, but pretty much all the other plot elements are there...

[Cyanidespork]

not being alive during the golden age of comics, and only getting into them a couple years ago i can still look at this mans work and be awe struck, inspired, intimidated, etc. a true artist whos influence will outlive me.

[batmanpp]

I cant say I totally agree w/Neal on takin pre-existin ideas and then bringin new ones.He's kinda right. All it is;is taking a good idea,and KEEPING all the good elements of that idea and growing off of it.Not necessarily adding per say, but an extension based on the alredy establisht good elements. And of course Never loosing them

[batmanpp]

So it's never really a NEW idea,since the prior idea is still here, still kept, it's highest elements maintained. But it looks new because other great(or even greater)ideas which are related are now connected to it. Thats why it's an extension cuz it's alredy related.

[batmanpp]

So the orignl idea is still present+it's moving to new grounds by a natural relation to these new grounds.

[5point0]

Incredible. Incredible. One groundbreaking artist talking about another. Very very good piece you've done.

[VulcanZoar]

My god,Al Pacino can SO easily play this guy! Cant say I'm a huge Kirby fan,but to anyone who can't appreciate Kirby just show them his SilverSurfer, they'll get it. Surfer really show's Kirby's key strength. Wow,never seen Neal Adams speak. That was very very cool.The man who invented Batman.

[thielden]

Jack Kirby was an incredible cartoonist. Thankyou for posting this.

[DialBforBLOG]

You're welcome! Kirby was an incredible cartoonist, and also a brilliant and forward-looking idea man. Where WOULD comics be without him?!?!!??

[thielden]

Comics would be extinct without king kirby.

[TheEye22]

@DialBforBLOG There probably wouldnt be any--but if there were, they would Never achieve what they are--and that is NO reflection on the thousand other GREAT Comic Artists--thats just a testimony to Jack's Fantastic vision and insights---He was like the 1st man on the moon....