@XxMaisieHallettxX If ur not sure what we are on about and you dont understand then dont comment. Simple really. I dont recall either of us saying we represented any religious faith or god. It may do you service if you dont involve urself in other people conversations,especially if you are not familiar with the conversations history. Jesus refered to certain religious people as "offspring of vipers" A fair sledge,I call them dumbasses!! It is not ur place to offer counsel.
@XxMaisieHallettxX haha well if jehovah is so great then why in the world would he not let the little girl get the blood transfusion? so nasty i believe IN God who cares about the babies and he would let them get the blood they need
i dont understand the Bible says not to EAT blood. it never said dont get blood transfusions. why is that so hard to understand? why would jehovah let you possible die from something that could be prevented w/ blood? and they say jehovah is loving? how is he?
While she at it, she needs the give me all of her money. because its pagan, it has symbols on it. She needs to give me the house, her stuff, that car, and her clothes. Because she is no part of the world. Why does she take from the world if she is no part of it ? Go live somewhere else you hypocrite. Jehovah's Witnesses needs be banned. Such a stupid cult.
@DestroyIIC Only someone who doesnt understand what Jesus meant when he said "have no part of the world" would make a stupid statement like this. Morons!! Utube is full of them!!
@MrOribear well looky here. Its mr bear. lamo What does no part of the world means? Does it mean that you can take from us and then later to point fingers at us ? Does it mean to act like a fool, like us, and then to show up at my door with your scam ? Does it mean to obey some laws and not the other ? I really don't understand what do you mean ? If it wasn't for us your religion would be banned already.
@DestroyIIC get it right jackass its mroribear. Ur claim re: if it wasnt for us? Who the hell is us? Have no part of the world doesnt mean dont own a car or a house, it means dont involve urseolf in the affairs of the world ie dont be political, dont waste energy trying to save the world, dont follow the customs of this world.Afterall this world is passing and so is its desires!!
@MrOribear us ? as in worldly people whom you call. and I find that to be a lie. You re suppose to re-frame from worldly things. As in everything. Isn't that what they teach you ? Of course not because you will find a way to break the rules, in order to survive this world. That is like telling me that Jehovah Witnesses men can go to strip clubs but not participate in it. That makes jws hypocrites
@DestroyIIC No!! They teach people to avoid participating in things that might have a negative influence into their relationship with Jehovah and/or the relationship with their fellow believers. With all aspects of this world and all its desires people are weak better to "opt" out rather than follow suit!!
@MrOribear lamo what planet are you on ? If I was given the chance I could take this religion out myself. Everything in this world has a negative influence. From television to individuals. The jws pick and choose in this world, without realizing the dangers. Your HUMAN, MAN leaders decides your fate. You can't decide your fate on your own, unless if you want to be disfollowshipped.
@DestroyIIC You would take this religion out would you?Would it be because they have long among themselves, they promote peace and harmoney.They teach do not rape murder or steal, or is it because they are united in worship. I wanna take you out for being a dumbass!!
@MrOribear I want to take this religion out because they are a lying cult. They are cheating people out of their lives just to have them work for them. They will not regain anything back. For starters, the Governing Body doesn't get a damn about nobody because they don't know anyone. Its you're in or you're out. Everything that they say is figure language. You should listen in to their talks more. You'll get an idea.
@DestroyIIC They wont regain anything else?? A big part of the JW faith is they have the hope of living forever on paradise earth.For them this is everything, how the hell can you say they wont regain anything. Hope for a better life for some people is all they have. Who gives a rats ass if they GB dont know me.The Queen doesnt know me either,yet her laws effect my life more than the GB do!! Shit this is kids thinking!!
@MrOribear lots of people who even have religion don't rape or steal. Its not up to somebody at my door or my parents to tell me what religion I should live in because that is what the problem is. Everybody is born in one everybody believes that their is right.
@DestroyIIC What makes the JW hypocrites. Individuals are hypocrites. You have judged an entire organisation on this??????? To use ur style of rationallity I use this "isnt that like blaming the driver for the make of the car" Not all JW's are loyal to their faith, some delibrately make themselves witness's to cause the faith harm. some just dont care. Ask ur self this would a person who genuinely worships god in mind body and soul really risk everything to see naked women?
@MrOribear JWs are hypocrites. they are no better as in the world. The kids and the adults want to be in world but they can't because there are 12 men in New York city telling them want to do. Do you even know the names of the decreet slave class? lamo You needed to know who they are. Why would you put your life into people whom you don't even know. These people don't even know if you exist or not. I feel bad for you.
@DestroyIIC I am not a witness but if i was I really dont think i wud care what their names are!! The 12 in brooklyn dont "tell" other what to think, they merely suggest better ways in which worship Jehovah!! Who cares if they dont even know me, you dont know either and that bothers me none!! I dont feel bad for you, well I do coz ur clueless!!
@MrOribear Lmao you should have been a witness if you believe in what they say. What is keeping you from joining ? Do you have doubts ? You guys make me laugh. And I shouldn't be laughing because I force into this garbage religion and now I want to shut them down for good. I want them to feel what it is like to live like a piece of shit working for them. The Maddoff guy should have taken their money too.
@MrOribear Are you kidding me ? Please tell me that you didn't just write this comment ? And you're calling me a dumbass ? This how I begin to find how that the Jehovah Witness was fake. Of course you need the names of those people and what they do. They are "supposedly what is left of the decreet slave. Is what they claim to be? They give you what is needed and they direct your life. You' re putting your faith into somebody that they don't even you exist. Thats a smart thing to do.
@DestroyIIC Yeah ur a dumbass. Im guessing but ur a yank yeah.Did you not vote for Obama, or who ever.Did the person you voted for know you personally, by voting are you not placing the decision to direct ur life into their hands? Ue boss, he direct ur life he barks orders that effect ur life, does he know you personally? What about ur bank manager, he certainally owns ur ass.Does he know you personally. I am likely to trust someone who has my best interest at heart.The GB has that!!
@MrOribear lamo what is this ? you can't go to strip clubs or even work there. If you told an elder this story. They will strip you out of your prelivages. Possibly, if serious, you could be disfollowshipped. re-frame from all unclean things. lamo
@DestroyIIC and rightly so, Its not right that someone leads a double life. They are messing more than just themselves. Going to say a strip club can have some fairly nasty consequences associated with it. Well working there, what can I say, what sort of people go to these places. Most the scum of society, drug addicts, drug pushes, lets not mention some of the girls are forced into being strippers. By working there are we condoning it!!
@MrOribear There is no way that you can go to an event like that. without the elders knowing. lmao you can't go or work in places like Hooters or XXXstripcentral. If what you are saying is true, then how come you can't be an outside law man or work at the military or be a porn camera man ? lol I told you, those 12 leader choose and pick for you. They tell you what to do.
@DestroyIIC Whats the problem with avoided places such as this. JW's dont do this coz they know that the possible negative consequenses far out weigh the positive ones. Give me ten reasons why its positive and i will give you a hundred for every negative. Noone forces anyone to do anything in the JW faith, but as scriptures say we "reap what we sow"I dont know what Iamo is so enlighten me!!
@MrOribear Jehovah Witnesses can't think for themselves. That is why you keep coming back with more brainwashed Jehovah Witnesses information written by other Jehovah Witnesses. You can't even have Anal sex or oral because its unclean. How is that any different from sex itself ? Virgin pricks I tell you. They are controlled they are being told what to do by virgin pricks down in Brooklyn through religion. That violated peoples right in the US that should be illegal.
@DestroyIIC Seems to me its you that cant think for themselves.None of these issues you have mentioned have you given any deep thought too.They are most issues that are easily corrected with a bit of self humility and some lateral and rationale thinking.None of which you process. You think like a kid.If you place having anal and oral sex above what ur god wants then so be it, if its so important to you go give and take!! Violates rights??? Ur kidding, damn are you listening to urself. DUMBASS!!
@DestroyIIC No such thing as an apostate?? mmmhhh interesting!! Cant back themselves up with fact mmmhhh boring. Whats fact? Anything you say I will MY fact ready anything you say you will have UR fact ready. For the record JW men can go to a strip clubs. The consequences of them going might not be what they like but noone will prevent anyone from doing anything (free will)
@MrOribear there is no such thing as an apostate. The reason is because how can you be an apostate for one religion and not the other, and plus depend on those who try to break the rules of religion ? I could turn my back on catholic and join the Jws. And I'll be an apostate for them because many think that the jws are devils. You must as well called those who break the laws ( scientists ) apostates too. But you don't you call other people random people who reject religion apostates.
@DestroyIIC This is according to you is it? There is apostates, but like there is so many false faiths that claim to have the truth and they have there false apostates too!! Apostates are people know what the truth is and speak out against it!! Just coz scientists "think" they can disprove god dont make them apostates!!
@MrOribear Apostates ? Knows the truth but speaks out ? Why would somebody want to do that? There is no such thing as an Apostates. Everyone changes religion. Wouldn't they be apostates to that religion too ? Funny thing is that you depend on apostates( seienceist ). When they change the laws of religion including Techs don't you support that ? You don't believe that God can do or cure right away because you need medical and tech crap to get around.Now aren't you an apostate too?
@DestroyIIC Why would an apostate turn into an apostate!! Shit, my ten year old nephew can answer this.Not everyone who knows Jehovah and the truth, like him.Some know him but choose not to follow him and some just plain hate him and we do anything to harm him and his organisation.Why is a scientist an apostate? All that other crap you wrote about tech and medical I Think what you were trying to say was because scientists made tech and medical and I use it I must be an apostate.
Why won't her "Brother's and sister's" donate to pay for her to get her child the surgery she needs!!!!
The organization encourages "friends" that Jehovah loves a cheerful giver, but I guess that only applies to putting money in the donation box. Since this "Sister" is obviously trying to stand up for what she has been taught is right, then the organization should step in and help her to keep her child from dying!!!
How about giving a "special needs talk" about an actual NEED!!
@QuestioningJW Nice point! JW's are only concerned about themselves. They are the most selfish religion out there. Mr. "Joe Elder" worries about himself. He could give a damn about anyone else. What's even worse is...witnesses worry about witnesses. The proof is from 9/11 and the earthquake in Haiti. Sure they say they help others...but they'll crawl over top of dead worldly people anyday to get to another JW. I grew up a JW and now I HATE THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY FOR STEALING MY LIFE AWAY.
@WakeUpWitness Ur statement here just proves ur a idiot. The JW's are family, are you telling me you wouldnt crawl over a dead person to help ur mum or ur dad? Of course you would. Stop condemning the witnesses for things you would do urself. Unless of course you would help someone else before you helped ur family or ur friends?
Truly sad.......so you mean to tell me....."YOU WOULD LET YOUR CHILD DIE BEFORE GIVING YOUR CHILD BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" How can a parent watch and let their child die because a policy written by a bunch of old geezers in brooklyn bethel new york? The bible is talking about the actual EATING of blood. There is nothing wrong with storing your own blood for an emergency purpose and transfusing it later. Witnesses are so brainwashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@WakeUpWitness If you possessed ANY intelligence whatsoever, you'd know that it's not a "man-made policy", but RATHER---It is a solid, Bible-based teaching that those who fear the true God learn about the sanctity of blood, and what can and cannot be done with it!! True Christians do not take blood-------because GOD says so!! Moron.
@TheMulder1981 Wow, and I thought Jehovah's Witnesses showed love. Calling me a moron sure isn't showing love. You know what's really a double standard is that you initial your name on your blood card to accept blood fractions...sure doesn't sound like having sanctity of blood to me. A WITNESS SHOULD EITHER ACCEPT BLOOD OR NO PART OF BLOOD WHATSOEVER. Funny how witnesses use to think that organ transplants was cannibalism and now it's acceptable....guess Jehovah changed his mind...miraculously.
@TheMulder1981 If you had done your Watchtower history you would find that it became a "man made policy". Also, I'll refrain from calling you names because a "true Christian" would not do that.
@WakeUpWitness Abraham was going to sarifice his own son to prove his devotion to Jehovah. Yes i would allow my child to die before allowing a blood tranfusion. No the bible isnt just talking about the actual Eating of blood. Its says keep abstained from blood. There is something wrong with storing up our own blood and using it. It means we would be breaking Jehovah's laws.Apostates are such dumbasses!!!!!!!!!!
@MrOribear Wow, I really hope you aren't a Jehovah's Witness. Because if you are....shame on you for using a word like dumbass. Much more worse is name slapping a person an apostate. Did the bible say "do not tranfuse blood into your veins....NOT IT DID NOT!" The bible is talking about the physical eating of animal blood for one. Would you eat a steak really rare? No you wouldn't because it will make you sick. I like the scripture that says "Do not go beyond the things that are written".
@WakeUpWitness Keep abstained means keep away, it doesnt matter in what in what sense,whether it be out of animals or a transfusion, the scripture says keep abstained and we should. You can throw ur own spin onto it but changing it isnt going to make it right. Yep ur a DUMBASS for believing otherwise!!
@MrOribear Wow I really hope you aren't a witness, because if you are- using a word like DUMBASS and calling someone that really shows hypocrisy on your part. Which is nothing new to witnesses. This is why I say they don't have "the truth" because if they did...witnesses wouldn't use words such as DUMBASS. Also, what's really funny is that Jesus said, "This cup means my blood", and he told his disciples to drink- why did he use an illustration like that? If we are to abstain, isn't that stupid?
@WakeUpWitness The fact I am calling you a dumbass should switch on a light in ur head. I am not a witness and ur confirming ur a dumbass. Ur here to "prove" the JW's are false. I am here to "prove" ur a dumbass who uses ur own "reasoning" to discredit them!! Ur logic re:Jesus and the cup is flawed. Jesus also said when he gave his apostle the loaf he said this means my body. According to ur logic we shouldnt be eating bread either.
@WakeUpWitness Obviously this "blood" that Jesus mentions at the last supper is not the same "blood" as mentioned that we should abstain from. Is this ur arguement that proves the JW's wrong? No wait telling JW's they shouldnt swear on utube is ur way of proving them wrong. You consider it a swear word. I do not,but if you prefer i will call you a jackass then, is that better? You dont understand the message of the scriptures coz if you did you would be JW and in the "truth"
@MrOribear Trust me buddy I know a whole lot more about what the Society teaches than you ever will. I was a witness for 30yrs, pioneered, was a ministerial servant, served in brooklyn bethel for a number of years. But now, have grown a true love for the scriptures and for Jesus. I can consider myself a "true Christian" and yet I can refrain from using name slapping names. If you don't consider it a swear word use it at the Hall. Call someone that out loud. I guarantee you, an elder talk to you.
@WakeUpWitness Dont call me ur buddy. Well whooppee you have been involved with the witnesses for 30 years. Well good for you, but it seems nothing the JW's taught you has sunk in? Let me guess you were unfairly disfellowshipped and now all you do is speak out against them for the wrongs they do. Bla bla bla!! Trust me apostate you may consider urself to be a "true christian" but all you have done is left the truth for life in dog vomit. Time for you to prove its ok to get a blood transfusion
@WakeUpWitness So far apostate ur arguement might convince a four year child but ur a long way from convincing me so ur gunna have to do better that. Tell me apostate ur 30 years of being a witness, how many of them were you under the age of 18? You gunna tell me if you were kicked out or did you leave on ur own? You give me ur opinion and expect me to take it as fact I wanna make sure its not tarnished!!
@MrOribear I'm not an apostate, I'm not disfellowshipped, I'm not disassociated. So stop name slapping me. I could do the same but I won't lower myself to your level. To be honest I stopped on my own accord of being a part of religion that deliberately with holds information from it's members. And, if that member decides to investigate his own religion and it's beliefs- that member is automatically labeled as an apostate or one questioning the Society,THIS MY FRIEND IS WRONG! God's gift is free.
@WakeUpWitness So apostate you were a witness when you were a child and then left when you were older, so in reality you dont really have the 30 years experience now do you, seeing how you were mostly just a kid when you were part of them. It doesnt really count. All the other rubbish ur saying well apostates say the same rubbish over and over. Told you I am not ur friend, and i will name slap you as often as I like. Why i am not a witness is of no concern to you!!
@MrOribear I grew up a witness, was raised in it. I stopped being part of that FALSE religion...(and yes it is false), about 5 years ago. I did my research (like most witnesses SHOULD do). Things just didn't add up about certain things. #1- 607BCE is wrong #2 -1914 is wrong #3- There is no "Jesus Invisible presence" #4- flip flop doctrine (generaton teaching) #5 - And many,many more.
Oh yeah and by the way....know what a true apostate is before calling someone that.
@WakeUpWitness Bla Bla bla. Tell me apostate if the JW's are not the correct faith, which faith is, and dont be telling me its Jesus coz we both know ur idea of who Jesus is and mine are very different. You tell me you believe and worship Jehovah, how do you do this? In what organisation do you worship him? We need an organisation to worship him and seeing how you are a "true christian" you obviously have the answer!!
@MrOribear "We need an organisation to worship him"- First of all you need to spell "organization" correctly. Second, where does it say in the bible that we need to be part of an "organization" to worship god? That's right Sherlock...nowhere does it say that! Also, what do you have to hide? Why can't I send you a private message? Are you Afraid the elders will find out? Pretty sad that a witness uses names like: Dumbass, and Jackass. I don't think you're gonna get into paradise that way!
@WakeUpWitness You would have to be an american, coz only an american would be so arrogant to tell someone how to spell a word which is correct in their country. In my country the word is spelt organisation not organization. So before you get up on ur high horse apostate learn the english language properly first DUMBASS!!
@WakeUpWitness who said anything about getting into paradise and who the hell are you to tell me what you think. Ur opinion means nothing to me apostate. Neither do ur attempts to "prove" to me the JW's are wrong!! Sure you can quote heaps of scriptures that supposedly support ur rubbish but you will never know "truth" is. Are you gunna tell me Jesus is god now too? You really need to start thinking like a man apostate!!
@MrOribear What's truly obvious is that I'm much older than you, which would also mean I'm more mature. Your comments are very immature. I've done my research on the organization and know the "real truth" about the organization. You haven't,therefore you don't know certain things. You will only continue to believe what they spoon feed you and accept every word as "truth". What's the saddest part of all of this is this: If I'm a so-called "apostate" to you,WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?
@WakeUpWitness HAHAHA ur more mature are you? Yet you didnt know organiSation was spelt that way. Thats showing ur more mature!! Listen apostate you think you have done ur research but you know nothing. Ur thinking is no better than a childs.Now answer my questions apostate and quit stalling!!
@MrOribear Maybe if you would give me a valid question to answer than I'll answer it! Go ahead give me one question. Most people prefer to spell orgnization with a "Z", I CAN HUMBLE MYSELF AND SAY IN A SENSE I WAS WRONG-It can be spelled either way. Let's see if you can come off your high horse and humble yourself. Go ahead ask me one valid question regarding Jehovah's witnesses? Or better than that, give me one,just one,piece of evidence that JW's are god's chosen organization! From the bible!
@WakeUpWitness I told you apostate dont write to me!! You thick or what? You know i cannot throw pearl before swine, you being the swine and all. My question were valid but ur too arrogant to look back and find them. In a sense you were wrong?? Not in a sense you are wrong and when you first thought i spelt it wrong didnt you get all high and mighty!! Most people spell it that way do they, dont think so dumbass, most uneducated yanks do!!The rest of the english speaking people spell it correctly
@MrOribear Hey dude your a moron,you keep calling someone an apostate,what you dont realize is that if your on here commenting about the watchtower against their wishes that makes you an apostate by there standards.so shut up,your not making any points about anything,your an embarrassment to jehovahs witnesses.I know this because im an active witness,a moron like you is the exact kind of person that would become a witness.you dont know anything because you havent been a witness.
@guydudeman100 is that right? Its funny how a JW has known apostates as friend/or subscribers on his channel. Ur full of it. Actually ur either wake up witness or one of his mates.Seen it before people using other ids to support their rubbish.I am calling you out moron you aint no witness, Ur also a dumbass,no JW is going to support the views of an apostate, ur a loser and a lying dog!!
@MrOribear I am actually a jw who realizes he is in a cult,Im a 21 year old ministerial servant on his way out,I am a friend of wake up witness because I liked alot of his vids.since im a ministerial servant you should show some respect as I sheperd the flock.Im trying to get out without losing all of my family,ive abandoned the asinine way I used to think,unlike you.why dont you join the cult they could use another pedophile.
@guydudeman100 This dude is a lost cause! It's a real shame he doesn't do his research on the ORGANIZATION. Usually people like him regret it later. What's even funnier is that he thinks you and I are the same, not only has cognitive dissonance set in his brain, but also paranoia. Boy, I wish the folks in his hall knew he was talking to an ex-jw (I would say apostate, but that's their term that does not apply).
@WakeUpWitness As an apostate i gotto say man you are dumb!! You all do the same thing, use other id's to back up what you say. Ur idiot girlie mate already told me you were friends(but thats a throw off) I think ur the same moron!! The "organisation concept" was implemented by Jesus and his apostles!! For someone who claims they were a witness for 30 years you dont know much of their teachings now do you dumbass!!
@MrOribear Myself and guydudeman100 are two different people, but that's ok if you wanna keep thinking that we are the same person....I'm use to people like yourself being paranoid. Dude, get over yourself already. I'm done with you. Oh and one more thing before I ignore you completely.........FUCK OFF!!!!!!!! If you wanna support Jehovah's Witnesses and be a part of them get baptized....DUMBASS!!!! You're so stupid calling people apostates and supporting something you are not even a part of.
@WakeUpWitness hhmmm Damn you are dumb!! What do I care if you are or are not the same, ur both dumbasses. The conversation about whether you are the same was a while ago, not sure why ur that slow in keeping up. If you wanna be an apostate scumbag kill urself now and save Jehovah the trouble!! Ur done with me, then stop commenting to me moron!!
@MrOribear Dude, you just opened yourself wide open with everyone who knows their stuff about the Society....go do your research on the Society and then come back on youtube. You don't know jack shit! You're probably only 20 yrs old. And always saying "Duhhh...the truth is the truth". Going through life with blinders on. Oh well, one day you'll see something that will change your mind about the Society. People like yourself are a joke...but then again witnesses are a joke.
@WakeUpWitness You idiot, you keep saying ur done with me yet here you are. Only a fool would defend a faith without knowing their history.There is nothing you can tell me about the JW's that I dont already know and yet here i am still defending them. They are the only faith that follow the scripture accurately. The crap you dribble to discredit I laugh at.You can turn away those who are shakey but you got no chance of convincing me coz I am smarter than you!!
@guydudeman100 ha, show you respect, keep dreaming nancy boy, you live a lie why the hell would i show respect to a wanna be apostate. Ur an idiot and since you havent offerred any constructive critizism or any logical thought you can leave!! Go on take a hike loser!!
@guydudeman100 They children of the JW's attend public schools, this is in direct conflict with the definition of what a cult is. You being the "sheppard of the flock" should know this. We speak English not american so the correct spelling would be paedophile and is this why you are leaving the faith, been touching up a few kids have we?? Moron, next you will calling me a terrorist!! Even wanna be apostates are dumbasses!!
@MrOribearA cult has complete control over your life and you know this is true for jehovahs witnessess,people are always concerned about bringing reproach and getting enough time in service. I was one of those jw kids going to public schools,it wasnt too bad for me,wish i coulda played football tho,and listen moron I dont give a crap where the hell your from,Im from America,im gonna spell things the way I know.you would know how to spell pedophile I bet,If I was one,I wouldnt want to leave.
@guydudeman100 of course the JW's are concerned over bringing reproach against Jehovah's name and the organisation you dumbass. It doesnt make them a cult now does it!! Tell me nancy boy were the romans correct when they referred to Jesus and his followers as a sect/cult? Ur out of ur league and you should shut up before i really embarress you!!
@MrOribear How can actual people embarrass jehovah you moron,he created us you idiot.your embarrassing the organization you claim to not be a part of,youv obviously at least been affiliated with them for awhile because you know the inside lingo,tell me something do you really believe jesus is invisibly present?Did you read about world war 1 and say to yourself,must be Jesus?answer those questions and lets see how you can embarrass me?
@guydudeman100 sure dumbass i will answer ur question where you answer mine gaydudeman, were the romans correct when they called Jesus and his crew a cult!! Yes moron I believe in Jesus invisible presence. Who said anything about embarressing Jehovah I said i would embarrass you dumbass, damn ur dumb, even dumber that ur wakeupwitness girlie mate!!
@MrOribear I have no problem with answering that question moron,the PAGAN romans were wrong about jesus being a cult.Jesus didnt go around handing out magazines either,he went directly to Gods Word and so did his apostles.do you really think Jesus couldnt manage to save 144,000 people?and reproach means to discredit,bring shame upon,embarrass moron.I answered your question,so tell me what convinces you that Jesus has been here invisibly since 1914 running an organization in Brooklyn?
@guydudeman100 Hey J....this guy is a lost cause!!! I'm not even going to waste my time on him anymore. What a joke! Blinded by "the truth"....more like....blinded by the lies!
@WakeUpWitness I know,hoping to plant a seed,I dont believe hes not a jw since he accused you of having another alias,I bet he has another alias.jws love to have support from people who arent jws because it makes their points seem more valid.The fact that hes exposing himself to other opinions is good.I used to get mad when people said negative things about the organization also, but if you check into the facts and find out all the lies and coverups,you know there is no way this can be the truth
@guydudeman100 Plant a seed, haha what a tosser, you claim ur a MS and in the wrong religion and yet you wanna plant the seed of doubt.Yep ur a mongrel all right.You weak gutless mutt. You hide in the shadows and make trouble. How many young JW's have you turned from Jehovah. Thank ur lucky stars lad we dont live in times when killing apostates was legal, coz you would be on my hit list, same with ur girlie mate!!
@MrOribear I have no interest in turning anyone from being a witness,i just want out of the religion without losing my family,your always talking about killing apostates,an apostate according to the bible is someone who speaks out against god,an apostate to you is someone who disagrees wit the watchtower,I dont agree that christ is present because the bible says not to believe it,and it says dont listen to anyone saying the due time has approached.witnessess do both of these things.
@guydudeman100 You claim ur not here to turn anyone away from being a witness, well thats bs for a start. What the hell are you doing here then. I didnt start having a conversation with you. You defended the words of an apostate, infact you went further and said you were friends with one. Then you tell me ur in the faith as a MS but coz of ur family you stay and lead a deceptive life. Now you expect me to believe ur words that we have been deceived. Ur dreaming lad!!
@guydudeman100 Now gaydudeman tell me what do the JW's do thats any different from what Jesus did? Apart from handing out magazines that is. Jesus gave signs that would be around when his presence would be, those signs are with us now but thats just in scripture, you would rather take the word of an apostate scumbag than to listen to the scriptures!!
Well look who I found! .hmm Are you gonna tuck your little tail and run again? Your pretty good at doing this. Most bears will stand and fight, but you like to run, why?
@1914watcher Firstly Jackass, i have no idea of who you are(names not familiar) and I have never ran from any apostate so you must have me confused.with someone else If not then ur a lying maggot coz Bears fear no man(the occational woman perhaps) and i certainly dont back down from a good discusion.You found me?? Good for you now go away until i finished showing these other two apostates up!!
If you remember, you once said that you wanted to kill me? Remember this? You are nothing, you claim to not be a Jw, but for some reason always defend the Jw view? You do realize this would make you a hypocrite? I have over 30 years invested in this organization, at least I served my time. My issues are not with the brothers, but with the leaders. I believe that you like to be the devil's advocate?
@1914watcher I say this to all apostates so dont be thinking ur special. Why do i need to be a witness in order to defend their faith? Are you familiar with the cliche "i dont agree with what you say but i will die defending ur right to say it" I am a drug addict, i smoke weed. This prevents me from becoming a JW. I am working on giving it up. How does this make me a hypocrite? 30 years so what??Dont make you an expert!! Infact ur a dumbass for leaving the faith!!
@MrOribear Showing the other apostates up???....Dude,YOU AIN'T PROVED NOTHING TO ME YET.....DUMBASS!!! I asked you to prove to me from the bible that Jehovah's Witnesses ARE THE SELECTED ORGANIZATION BY GOD. And instead you just rant and rave and call me names and keep saying it's "the truth"! Prove it! Prove to me it's the truth. Oh, and while you're at it.....prove to me Jesus started his "invisible presence in 1914".......FROM THE BIBLE..............I'm waiting...............................
@WakeUpWitness Mr "true christian" seems I dont have to show you up, ur doing a fine job on ur own. You condemn me for uses words like dumbass, moron etc and I dont claim to be a christian.You claim to be a "true christian" and you used vulgar language. mmhh bit hypocritical dont you think.Ahh thats right you dont think. Keep waiting coz I dont throw pearl before a swine(you being the swine) The scriptures tell me not to discuss them with an apostate and you are an apostate scumbag!! BYE!!
@MrOribear Go get baptized you stupid hypocrite! You're on here talking to all these (so-called) "apostates" when the Society tells you not to. Shouldn't you follow what they teach?? It's so obvious you are an ignorant little pup who knows nothing about the organization. Go do your research....then come back on here. You're a lost cause!!!!!!!!!!!
@WakeUpWitness and just how am I a hypocrite jackass, have I claimed to be a "true christian"? Have I used filthy and discusting language after condemning others for using minor swear words? Seems to me ur actions and ur words prove you to be the hypocrite and ur claim I know nothing about the organiSation.Well lets say there is nothing you can tell me about the JW's that i dont already know. I am a lost cause, you are the walking dead!! I spit in ur face you filthy apostate scum!!
@MrOribear "I spit in ur face you filthy apostate scum!!"....Wow, now I REALLY don't want to be a part of that organization ever again. You are a sad excuse for someone representing "the truth" and "ones who show genuine love". Not only can you not back anything up from scripture, but you aren't even baptized!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a joke. And yes, YOU are the hypocrite.........calling people dumbass, jackass, apostate, spitting in their faces. If only your elders heard you talk like that!
@WakeUpWitness Dumbass!! I have no love in me.I am the worst kind of human you never wanna meet. I dont represent the JW's and who the hell are you to tell me I am not baptised? For all you know I was baptised as a huri chrishna when I was a kid. Ur a moron who assumes too much.I just wouldnt spit on ur face apostate I would be picking up the biggest rock and slamming into ur head!! People like you make me sick.You claim ur a "true christian" but ur words and actions make you a satanic prick!!
@MrOribear Picking up a rock and slamming me in the head???? Satanic Prick??? Dumbass?? Moron?? You ain't going to get into paradise like that!!! You are truly sad.....and immature. You can't even give me any evidence from scripture....sherlock! All you do is call people apostate and talk about spitting in their faces or throwing rocks on their heads. Why don't you back up what you support by scripture.....THAT...right there my friend... is truly DUMBASS!
@WakeUpWitness Its got nothing to do with not knowing or not be able to prove anything, i probably cant coz i dont know, I dont claim to know all things. I do however know the scripture that says dont throw pearl before a swine.You are a swine and theres no way in hell I am going to discuss anything religious with you. You are a hypocritical and a wanker and even if the scripture didnt say this I still wouldnt discuss scripture with you coz ur a idiot and have a personality of a dead bullfrog!!
@MrOribear Ok....instead of arguing back and forth..let's just stick with one logical point.....PROVE TO ME FROM THE BIBLE THAT 1914 WAS THE START OF THE LAST DAYS AND JESUS STARTED HIS INVISIBLE PRESENCE. If I don't get an answer from you, I assume you don't know (which is sad)...or you just can't find it in the bible.
@WakeUpWitness I will never argue with person who claims they are a "true christian" and then uses vulgar words when they lose control. Ur a hypocrite and a rabid dog and you need to be put down!! Now piss off you apostate scumbag!!
@MrOribear YOU'VE BEEN ARGUING WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME !!!!!!!!! ME USING VULGAR WORDS???? YOU'VE BEEN USING THEM ALSO YOU HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!
I got a good notion to tell your elders you've been talking to an "apostate" (even though I'm not an apostate-because an apostate is someone who turns their back on god). Now piss off you fake, un-baptized, unknowledgable, immature, JW wanna be!! You're the poorest excuse for someone representing that false organization!!!
@WakeUpWitness Man are you thick or what?? Told you already dumbass I am not a witness and I donot attend any kingdom halls. You are apostate coz i say so!! Good on you for showing me how a "true christian" is meant to act. Ur use of profanities doesnt suprise me!! Ur the hypocrite ur just too stupid to know!! Get Bent!!
@MrOribear Is this your goal?? To just keep sending me stupid messages? Are you lonely or something and need someone to talk to?? Stop wasting my time YOU JW WANNA BE TROLL!
@MrOribear The bible describes the leaders who were saying this kind of thing as false prophets in matt:24:23-27 and in luke 21:8 he says not to go after them,and in 2nd Peter 2:1 these false prophets are described as leaders of destructive sects.I know what you believe very well my friend because I used to believe it.you accuse me of listening to an apostate over the scriptures but in actuality its what your doing,we have been misled my friend.
@guydudeman100 Jesus stated that he came to cause division among families.You state the JW's are wrong, which according to you if there wrong then they must be satanic. Means you are worshipping the devil in disguise and do this for the sake of ur family. What a crock of shit!! Nothing you say holds any merit with me and dont refer to us as friends again. We are not friends.Ur in a religion you hate and you are deceiving ur family and ur freinds. Makes you a hypocrite!!
@guydudeman100 Ur young so i accept ur lack of logical thinking abilities. You rely upon the understanding of scriptures by others but tell me something. How is gods organisation(whatever faith that is) meant to be perfect?This world belongs to satan which means even Jehovah's organisation has been influenced by satan. The scriptures say one god one faith. What according to you is this faith? Whats its name. Obviously, they never make mistakes and have never been wrong about anything!!
@MrOribear You say the scriptures say one god,one faith.right in the same context of that scripture it says one hope,but witnessess believe in two hopes dont they.most people are restricted from going to heaven read what jesus says about people who do that in matt23:13-15.thats a jehovahs witness in a nutshell.you call me a hypocrite for remaining a jw and your right,ill be a hypocrite as long as I remain one and so will you,im tryin to get out as smoothly as possible.theres no honorable way out
@guydudeman100 Use ur brain lad. You have a woman, if you do i can bet my life you accept her for all her faults. Yet an organisation which the scripture indicate they are the correct faith you hide in and deceive people because some of the things they say and do arent perfect. Tell me a faith thats more accurate with the scriptures? You havent answered my question. What do the JW's do that Jesus didnt do?
@MrOribear I used to believe we were the most accurate also until I started looking beyond our own publications.you will find out if you do research also,so you really think matt24;45-47 is a scripture indicating that there would be a bunch of ppl who hand out magazines.I recomend you read that whole chapter in context,in fact just read the bible without all those watchtowers that taylor your opinion to what they want.stop letting the ""faithful slave"" tell you what to think,think for yourself
@guydudeman100 I have my done research and i can promise you I have alot more knowledge than you have. I have been doing this since before you were born. I know the JW have there bad points and i know all about their history.Like i said there is nothing you can tell me about them that I dont already know. In this imperfect world they are Jehovah people, unless you can tell me another faith that offers more true!!
According to the WTBTS you are either in the pin or out of the pin. They call this "riding the fence". What is funny is you are on the outside of the fence saying "You better stay in the pin". You case is absolutely pointless. If you decide to start another cult, let me know, I done figured this one out. Maybe I can join yours next.
@1914watcher Yep I am sitting on the fence, which kinda takes the decision to have kids out of my hands. So be it. Ok so I am sitting on the fence, well actually I am not. When this systems ends I will die with the rest of you scum.I have no problems with that, infact I have no desire to have my sins forgiven. I have done terrible things for which I deserve to die and i want to be held accountable.Jehovah might forgive but my unfortunate victim dont!! Such is life!!
@MrOribear We all commit horrible sins on a daily basis, nobody deserves to die...not even you.. :) Loser..lol J/K
Call me every name under the sun if it makes you feel better, but you won't upset me. I am fine with your viewpoint of me. I don't wish for anyone to die, regardless of their view.
@1914watcher Its not my intention to upset you. Nor do i care what you think or ur opinions As a person ur probably a nice one, as an apostate you deserve to die. When anyone speaks out about our creator and/or anything he has established needs to be put down.Simple, when you speak out about what he has establish you need to die!!
@MrOribear why do you think they say guard against independent thinking?wake up.its a cult,a time consuming cult,why do you think they want all of your time?cult.anyone who doesent agree with them is silenced and cast out.they have complete control over your life. judge if someone is spiritual or not by how many hairs they had on ther chin,because society says no beards,wtf.I havent seen any scriptures that support your point, any scripture you know I know,because weve been taught the same thing
@guydudeman100 who doesnt want control over our lives?? Every government is trying to take control atleast with the witnesses there is no bad motives for it. As for ur issue with beards, so what, if you get a job in say a bank they have a dress code and an appearance code, hey even Maccas ur not allowed to have visable tats. Anyway nothing prevents people from having beards, sure you wont have an active role within the congregation but thats the price we pay.
@guydudeman100 ok tell me why I am a hypocrite, have i stated that I am Not a JW, have I not given you reasonable explainations as to why I defend the truth. What makes me a hypocrite? You toss these words around without demonstrating they are true. You are the liar and the hypocrite and I have demonstrated why (actually you did) You lie to ur family/friends and to Jehovah and you have the gall to call me a hypocrite!!
@MrOribear you say you have more knowledge than me yet you ignore every scripture presented and just turn to insulting,and your a hypocrite because you believe this is the truth and yet are no part of it.i dont lie to my family and friends,nobody ever asks me if I believe its the truth,they assume so and im on my way out anyway idiot.if you cant respond to the scriptures then im done talkin to you,because your a moron who will never learn anything.The bible says your stupid you know,i can show u
@guydudeman100 I havent ignore ur scriptures at all.I have been addressing other issues!! So I will let you have ur little dummy spit and I will continue. Yeah you are lying to ur family and friends, sure maybe no one has asked you but as a witness you go door to door preaching the truth. You are living a lie!! You dont wanna be there but ur there only coz you dont wanna cause grief with ur family and friends.Ur fam and friends believe you to be part of the JW faith with them. You lie to them!!
@guydudeman100 You can sugar coat it if you like but that doesnt change the fact that ur lies are also affecting ur relationship with ur creator. No god(whatever the name) accepts people who are delibrately and continuely lying to their loved ones. As a believer in Jehovah, i try to adhere to his words in the scriptures and its clear how to treat apostates. You may not be an apostate now but sure enough ur heading down that track coz as soon as you leave ur gunna badmouth them even more!!
@guydudeman100 You mentioned early about Jesus and his presence. The JW's have their interpretation of when that occurred. You have stated that I should prove this in the scriptures.You,being a JW you know what the societies answer to this is, and for arguements sake lets say I agree with them.Thats not the issue, coz the sriptures say about his presence.If you dont believe the JW's version of when it happened, you tell me when it happened(or will) and prove it to me that ur right!!
@guydudeman100 You claim you can prove the JW's wrong in many ways. Ok thats fine, I am sure that you once you leave the JW's you going to go to the faith that is 100% accurate when it comes to interpreting the scriptures. You can "prove"the JW's wrong but so far you havent given me any indication to what is a better faith!! Yes I want to see the scripture that says ORIBEAR is stupid!!
@1914watcher The wages for sin is death, ur telling me noone deserves to die reguardless of their views, do I take that you think no-one should die for any of their views.What about expressed views For eg if some son of a bitch said he wants to break into ur house and rape, torture and murder ur pet cat would you still be saying the same thing? Or what about some sick mutt who publicly states they should legally be allowed have sex with 5 year old toddlers!! Yeah some people do need to die!!
@1914watcher You said you found me again? This implies we have chatted before? However in my comments, inbox, and personal letters ur name doesnt appear, and i never delete again. Which as an assumption i would assume it was on another id of urs. I know its not mine coz this is my only active account, and ur name doesnt appear on the 2 other non active accounts which i have. I could be mistaken which could proved if you tell me the name of the site we talked on!!
It was on a thread from a few months ago, I don't see any reason to bring it up again. Listening to your story about your feelings, it drove your point across to me. Correct me if I am wrong, You love the truth, but have personal vices that keep you from being who you really want to be? You get angry at people who denouce the WTBTS, because they are leaving or want to leave? If you want to conquer your vices and be Jw again, I truly hope that you can achieve this.
@1914watcher mmmhhh please tell me ur not gunna keep trying to analize me are you, coz you will never come close to understanding who I am. So dont even try!!
At some point your going to have to accept why you feel the way you do about yourself. Someone has been telling you how bad you are, and how you have no hope. I don't think that you fully understand the love that came from the ransom of Christ Jesus. Just think about King Manasseh, he scarificed his children, He built altars to pagan gods,sawed the prophet Isaiah in half? Yet, Jehovah forgave Manasseh (2 Chronicles 33:11-13) Who on this thread has done anything as bad as this?
@1914watcher At some point ur gunna have to stop assuming that you know what ur talking about. Nobody has ever said to me that I am a bad person who is unworthy of forgiveness and have no hope.I am educated therefore i do know the meaning of the ransom sacrifice!! King Manesseh saw the error of his ways and sought forgiveness. Ive seen the error of my ways and I choose not to seek forgiveness.Like I said Jehovah forgives us but our victims never do!!
@MrOribear proverbs 18:2,6,7.there are more,you certainly fit the description in these scriptures.Im sure there is no faith that is 100% accurate,however jesus says that he is the way,the TRUTH,and the light.you say im lying to my family because I stay,maybe you dont understand because u were never baptized but you cant just leave.theres no honorable or easy way out.Im done talking to you because proverbs 26:4-5 says I shouldnt respond to you.I really hope you find peace mate,bye
@guydudeman100 Dont be quoting any scriptures you live a lie & you dont have the moral right to quote anything scriptural at me Dont give a rats ass if ur done with me & I aint ur mateThere is no honour lying to ur family and friends as well.Who cares if there is no honourable or easy way put. Just leave and be done with it & deal with the consequences later.Maybe I do understand & maybe i just dont agree with you and maybe I just think ur a weak and gutless kid who should grow some balls!!
@guydudeman100 Don't waste your time with this JW troll...his only goal on youtube is to argue with people. He has no life and probably no friends....poor guy is a lost cause.....oh, and did I mention a real DUMBASS. Someone sent me a message that all he likes to do is argue with people by supporting JW's but has nothing to back it up. Pretty sad considering the moron ain't even baptized.....what a dope!
@WakeUpWitness what a wanker you are. Somebody sent me a letter telling me ur just a soft cock nancy boy who claims their a "true christian" but ur a hypocrite and a moron, oh yeah and a dumbass!! Cant be forgetting that one!! Dont worry schoolboy I know who you are!!
@WakeUpWitness Yeah as if you being a "true christian" and all would know what a false prophet organiSation is. Ur an idiot!! You dont have a clue what ur talking about. Now you said you were done with me maggot I took you for ur word now bugger off!!
@MrOribear I sure do know what a False Prophet is.... It's very simple Forest Gump. Let me break down very simple for your slow brain to understand: The Watchtower claims to be a prophet, they set dates that did not come to pass and did not originate from Jehovah, according to Deut. 18:20-22 that qualifies them as a False Prophet....HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??? It's so simple even my 2 yr old could understand it. Now, instead of insulting me..prove to me they are not a false prophet.
@WakeUpWitness you moron,as a "true christian" you should know I am prevented from discussing anything religious with you. Aside from that you mentallity is even younger than ur 2 year olds and any conversation would be wasted on you dumbass!! Now are you done with me or what?
@21crosscheck21 another moron great!! Show me my words where i profess to be a Jehovah's Witness. This other moron claims to be a "true christian" and has used vulgar words to me and I dont see you commenting on his language. So why dont mind ur own business and stop interfering in things that arent ur concern!!
@MrOribear It's funny how it's always the prideful, those who think they are more intelligent then others that display an utter lack of self control and are prone to childish name calling. Always calling others wrong but never able to cobble together a sensible argument and never able to deal with facts. Good luck with that.
@21crosscheck21 no whats funny is morons like you who think they know what they are talking about, now piss off you maggot and go bother someone else. Moron!!
@MrOribear Awwww....did 21crosscheck21 hurt your wittle feelwings? Dude, why don't you come up with some new material? Instead of calling people moron, dumbass, and different names, BACK UP WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN!! Ok...here's one for ya to chew on: Show me in the bible where it says Jesus started his invisible presence in 1914. There...plain and simple....no argument....no name calling.....just show me that one thing....just show me that one thing.
@WakeUpWitness Now you starting to talk like a kid, ur not bright are you mr true christian, tell you what, since you claim ur a true christian why dont you tell me what Jesus meant by "the generation" I am sure you know the meaning of every scripture in the bible. Dont you dare prayer to ur god on my behalf for my ignorance I spit on ur god and on you. Ur an apostate and you deserve to die you maggot!! Come on moron back up ur claims that ur a "true christian"
@21crosscheck21 All I can say is God Bless his ignorance. He's has not yet backed up anything he says. The only thing he knows how to do is call people moron, dumbass, and jackass just to keep them talking back and forth to him. He's probably some poor, lonely, lost, young unbaptized JW who keep's thinking that it's "the truth", because he still lives at home and his Mommy goes to the Kingdom Hall.
@WakeUpWitness Ur a "true christian" you know that I am prevented from discussing scripture with you and you give me crap about not defending the JW's. What kinda "faith" are you in that allows you to break the law of Jehovah? Dont discuss scripture with apostates. Ur an apostate so why the hell would i disobey Jehovah for you?? God you are so dumb!!
@MrOribear Just as I thought, you can't prove Jesus started his invisible presence in 1914, so then you just revert back to calling me names. What scripture says "Don't discuss scripture with apostates?" I'll answer your question: What Jesus meant by generation does not apply to us today. The generation has not even come upon the scene yet. The generation would see all the things that Jesus said would occur, it's future. They would see the beginning and end. The Watchtower has it all wrong.
@WakeUpWitness You as a so called "true christian" should be aware of how apostates are to be treated, if you bothered to get a grasp of the scriptures you wouldnt need me to explain it to you. The WT has it wrong does it?? Those things that Jesus said would happen, floods, pestilence etc etc are happening now moron!! For someone who claims they have the truth you know nothing!! Now for the love of god be done with me!!
@1914watcher You should stop assuming that I give a rats ass. So what if all that crap happened to you, life isnt one happy picnic now is it. Shit happens and rather than you try counselling me try getting some urself. You picked the wrong person if you want some sympathy. To quote "quite frankly dear I dont give a damn"
@XxMaisieHallettxX If ur not sure what we are on about and you dont understand then dont comment. Simple really. I dont recall either of us saying we represented any religious faith or god. It may do you service if you dont involve urself in other people conversations,especially if you are not familiar with the conversations history. Jesus refered to certain religious people as "offspring of vipers" A fair sledge,I call them dumbasses!! It is not ur place to offer counsel.
MrOribear 6 months ago
@XxMaisieHallettxX my bible doesnt say that at all
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@XxMaisieHallettxX haha well if jehovah is so great then why in the world would he not let the little girl get the blood transfusion? so nasty i believe IN God who cares about the babies and he would let them get the blood they need
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
i dont understand the Bible says not to EAT blood. it never said dont get blood transfusions. why is that so hard to understand? why would jehovah let you possible die from something that could be prevented w/ blood? and they say jehovah is loving? how is he?
mjjcng8958 10 months ago 2
wtf!?! SMH You mam are a fanatic.
CHARLESHARDIN96 11 months ago
great looking kids.
thepixieful 1 year ago
While she at it, she needs the give me all of her money. because its pagan, it has symbols on it. She needs to give me the house, her stuff, that car, and her clothes. Because she is no part of the world. Why does she take from the world if she is no part of it ? Go live somewhere else you hypocrite. Jehovah's Witnesses needs be banned. Such a stupid cult.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC Only someone who doesnt understand what Jesus meant when he said "have no part of the world" would make a stupid statement like this. Morons!! Utube is full of them!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear well looky here. Its mr bear. lamo What does no part of the world means? Does it mean that you can take from us and then later to point fingers at us ? Does it mean to act like a fool, like us, and then to show up at my door with your scam ? Does it mean to obey some laws and not the other ? I really don't understand what do you mean ? If it wasn't for us your religion would be banned already.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC get it right jackass its mroribear. Ur claim re: if it wasnt for us? Who the hell is us? Have no part of the world doesnt mean dont own a car or a house, it means dont involve urseolf in the affairs of the world ie dont be political, dont waste energy trying to save the world, dont follow the customs of this world.Afterall this world is passing and so is its desires!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear us ? as in worldly people whom you call. and I find that to be a lie. You re suppose to re-frame from worldly things. As in everything. Isn't that what they teach you ? Of course not because you will find a way to break the rules, in order to survive this world. That is like telling me that Jehovah Witnesses men can go to strip clubs but not participate in it. That makes jws hypocrites
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC No!! They teach people to avoid participating in things that might have a negative influence into their relationship with Jehovah and/or the relationship with their fellow believers. With all aspects of this world and all its desires people are weak better to "opt" out rather than follow suit!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear lamo what planet are you on ? If I was given the chance I could take this religion out myself. Everything in this world has a negative influence. From television to individuals. The jws pick and choose in this world, without realizing the dangers. Your HUMAN, MAN leaders decides your fate. You can't decide your fate on your own, unless if you want to be disfollowshipped.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC You would take this religion out would you?Would it be because they have long among themselves, they promote peace and harmoney.They teach do not rape murder or steal, or is it because they are united in worship. I wanna take you out for being a dumbass!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I want to take this religion out because they are a lying cult. They are cheating people out of their lives just to have them work for them. They will not regain anything back. For starters, the Governing Body doesn't get a damn about nobody because they don't know anyone. Its you're in or you're out. Everything that they say is figure language. You should listen in to their talks more. You'll get an idea.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC They wont regain anything else?? A big part of the JW faith is they have the hope of living forever on paradise earth.For them this is everything, how the hell can you say they wont regain anything. Hope for a better life for some people is all they have. Who gives a rats ass if they GB dont know me.The Queen doesnt know me either,yet her laws effect my life more than the GB do!! Shit this is kids thinking!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear lots of people who even have religion don't rape or steal. Its not up to somebody at my door or my parents to tell me what religion I should live in because that is what the problem is. Everybody is born in one everybody believes that their is right.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC What makes the JW hypocrites. Individuals are hypocrites. You have judged an entire organisation on this??????? To use ur style of rationallity I use this "isnt that like blaming the driver for the make of the car" Not all JW's are loyal to their faith, some delibrately make themselves witness's to cause the faith harm. some just dont care. Ask ur self this would a person who genuinely worships god in mind body and soul really risk everything to see naked women?
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear JWs are hypocrites. they are no better as in the world. The kids and the adults want to be in world but they can't because there are 12 men in New York city telling them want to do. Do you even know the names of the decreet slave class? lamo You needed to know who they are. Why would you put your life into people whom you don't even know. These people don't even know if you exist or not. I feel bad for you.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC I am not a witness but if i was I really dont think i wud care what their names are!! The 12 in brooklyn dont "tell" other what to think, they merely suggest better ways in which worship Jehovah!! Who cares if they dont even know me, you dont know either and that bothers me none!! I dont feel bad for you, well I do coz ur clueless!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Lmao you should have been a witness if you believe in what they say. What is keeping you from joining ? Do you have doubts ? You guys make me laugh. And I shouldn't be laughing because I force into this garbage religion and now I want to shut them down for good. I want them to feel what it is like to live like a piece of shit working for them. The Maddoff guy should have taken their money too.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC Why I am not a witness is no concern of urs. I have absolutely no doubt that the JW's are Jehovahs people and they have the truth!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Are you kidding me ? Please tell me that you didn't just write this comment ? And you're calling me a dumbass ? This how I begin to find how that the Jehovah Witness was fake. Of course you need the names of those people and what they do. They are "supposedly what is left of the decreet slave. Is what they claim to be? They give you what is needed and they direct your life. You' re putting your faith into somebody that they don't even you exist. Thats a smart thing to do.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC Yeah ur a dumbass. Im guessing but ur a yank yeah.Did you not vote for Obama, or who ever.Did the person you voted for know you personally, by voting are you not placing the decision to direct ur life into their hands? Ue boss, he direct ur life he barks orders that effect ur life, does he know you personally? What about ur bank manager, he certainally owns ur ass.Does he know you personally. I am likely to trust someone who has my best interest at heart.The GB has that!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear lamo what is this ? you can't go to strip clubs or even work there. If you told an elder this story. They will strip you out of your prelivages. Possibly, if serious, you could be disfollowshipped. re-frame from all unclean things. lamo
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC and rightly so, Its not right that someone leads a double life. They are messing more than just themselves. Going to say a strip club can have some fairly nasty consequences associated with it. Well working there, what can I say, what sort of people go to these places. Most the scum of society, drug addicts, drug pushes, lets not mention some of the girls are forced into being strippers. By working there are we condoning it!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear There is no way that you can go to an event like that. without the elders knowing. lmao you can't go or work in places like Hooters or XXXstripcentral. If what you are saying is true, then how come you can't be an outside law man or work at the military or be a porn camera man ? lol I told you, those 12 leader choose and pick for you. They tell you what to do.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@MrOribear lmao you're looking at a previllge stripping or a disfellowship.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC Whats the problem with avoided places such as this. JW's dont do this coz they know that the possible negative consequenses far out weigh the positive ones. Give me ten reasons why its positive and i will give you a hundred for every negative. Noone forces anyone to do anything in the JW faith, but as scriptures say we "reap what we sow"I dont know what Iamo is so enlighten me!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Jehovah Witnesses can't think for themselves. That is why you keep coming back with more brainwashed Jehovah Witnesses information written by other Jehovah Witnesses. You can't even have Anal sex or oral because its unclean. How is that any different from sex itself ? Virgin pricks I tell you. They are controlled they are being told what to do by virgin pricks down in Brooklyn through religion. That violated peoples right in the US that should be illegal.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC Seems to me its you that cant think for themselves.None of these issues you have mentioned have you given any deep thought too.They are most issues that are easily corrected with a bit of self humility and some lateral and rationale thinking.None of which you process. You think like a kid.If you place having anal and oral sex above what ur god wants then so be it, if its so important to you go give and take!! Violates rights??? Ur kidding, damn are you listening to urself. DUMBASS!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear There is no such thing as a an apostate. This word is only used because people can't back themselves up with facts
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC No such thing as an apostate?? mmmhhh interesting!! Cant back themselves up with fact mmmhhh boring. Whats fact? Anything you say I will MY fact ready anything you say you will have UR fact ready. For the record JW men can go to a strip clubs. The consequences of them going might not be what they like but noone will prevent anyone from doing anything (free will)
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear there is no such thing as an apostate. The reason is because how can you be an apostate for one religion and not the other, and plus depend on those who try to break the rules of religion ? I could turn my back on catholic and join the Jws. And I'll be an apostate for them because many think that the jws are devils. You must as well called those who break the laws ( scientists ) apostates too. But you don't you call other people random people who reject religion apostates.
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC This is according to you is it? There is apostates, but like there is so many false faiths that claim to have the truth and they have there false apostates too!! Apostates are people know what the truth is and speak out against it!! Just coz scientists "think" they can disprove god dont make them apostates!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Apostates ? Knows the truth but speaks out ? Why would somebody want to do that? There is no such thing as an Apostates. Everyone changes religion. Wouldn't they be apostates to that religion too ? Funny thing is that you depend on apostates( seienceist ). When they change the laws of religion including Techs don't you support that ? You don't believe that God can do or cure right away because you need medical and tech crap to get around.Now aren't you an apostate too?
DestroyIIC 1 year ago
@DestroyIIC Why would an apostate turn into an apostate!! Shit, my ten year old nephew can answer this.Not everyone who knows Jehovah and the truth, like him.Some know him but choose not to follow him and some just plain hate him and we do anything to harm him and his organisation.Why is a scientist an apostate? All that other crap you wrote about tech and medical I Think what you were trying to say was because scientists made tech and medical and I use it I must be an apostate.
MrOribear 1 year ago
Why won't her "Brother's and sister's" donate to pay for her to get her child the surgery she needs!!!!
The organization encourages "friends" that Jehovah loves a cheerful giver, but I guess that only applies to putting money in the donation box. Since this "Sister" is obviously trying to stand up for what she has been taught is right, then the organization should step in and help her to keep her child from dying!!!
How about giving a "special needs talk" about an actual NEED!!
QuestioningJW 1 year ago
@QuestioningJW Nice point! JW's are only concerned about themselves. They are the most selfish religion out there. Mr. "Joe Elder" worries about himself. He could give a damn about anyone else. What's even worse is...witnesses worry about witnesses. The proof is from 9/11 and the earthquake in Haiti. Sure they say they help others...but they'll crawl over top of dead worldly people anyday to get to another JW. I grew up a JW and now I HATE THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY FOR STEALING MY LIFE AWAY.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Ur statement here just proves ur a idiot. The JW's are family, are you telling me you wouldnt crawl over a dead person to help ur mum or ur dad? Of course you would. Stop condemning the witnesses for things you would do urself. Unless of course you would help someone else before you helped ur family or ur friends?
MrOribear 1 year ago
well geeze would you rather take the chance you could loose your daughter?
JJay23nc 1 year ago
Truly sad.......so you mean to tell me....."YOU WOULD LET YOUR CHILD DIE BEFORE GIVING YOUR CHILD BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" How can a parent watch and let their child die because a policy written by a bunch of old geezers in brooklyn bethel new york? The bible is talking about the actual EATING of blood. There is nothing wrong with storing your own blood for an emergency purpose and transfusing it later. Witnesses are so brainwashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness If you possessed ANY intelligence whatsoever, you'd know that it's not a "man-made policy", but RATHER---It is a solid, Bible-based teaching that those who fear the true God learn about the sanctity of blood, and what can and cannot be done with it!! True Christians do not take blood-------because GOD says so!! Moron.
TheMulder1981 1 year ago
@TheMulder1981 Wow, and I thought Jehovah's Witnesses showed love. Calling me a moron sure isn't showing love. You know what's really a double standard is that you initial your name on your blood card to accept blood fractions...sure doesn't sound like having sanctity of blood to me. A WITNESS SHOULD EITHER ACCEPT BLOOD OR NO PART OF BLOOD WHATSOEVER. Funny how witnesses use to think that organ transplants was cannibalism and now it's acceptable....guess Jehovah changed his mind...miraculously.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@TheMulder1981 If you had done your Watchtower history you would find that it became a "man made policy". Also, I'll refrain from calling you names because a "true Christian" would not do that.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Incorrect. It's a scriptural mandate. Christians are COMMANDED to abstain from blood.
Period.
TheMulder1981 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Abraham was going to sarifice his own son to prove his devotion to Jehovah. Yes i would allow my child to die before allowing a blood tranfusion. No the bible isnt just talking about the actual Eating of blood. Its says keep abstained from blood. There is something wrong with storing up our own blood and using it. It means we would be breaking Jehovah's laws.Apostates are such dumbasses!!!!!!!!!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Wow, I really hope you aren't a Jehovah's Witness. Because if you are....shame on you for using a word like dumbass. Much more worse is name slapping a person an apostate. Did the bible say "do not tranfuse blood into your veins....NOT IT DID NOT!" The bible is talking about the physical eating of animal blood for one. Would you eat a steak really rare? No you wouldn't because it will make you sick. I like the scripture that says "Do not go beyond the things that are written".
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Keep abstained means keep away, it doesnt matter in what in what sense,whether it be out of animals or a transfusion, the scripture says keep abstained and we should. You can throw ur own spin onto it but changing it isnt going to make it right. Yep ur a DUMBASS for believing otherwise!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Wow I really hope you aren't a witness, because if you are- using a word like DUMBASS and calling someone that really shows hypocrisy on your part. Which is nothing new to witnesses. This is why I say they don't have "the truth" because if they did...witnesses wouldn't use words such as DUMBASS. Also, what's really funny is that Jesus said, "This cup means my blood", and he told his disciples to drink- why did he use an illustration like that? If we are to abstain, isn't that stupid?
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness The fact I am calling you a dumbass should switch on a light in ur head. I am not a witness and ur confirming ur a dumbass. Ur here to "prove" the JW's are false. I am here to "prove" ur a dumbass who uses ur own "reasoning" to discredit them!! Ur logic re:Jesus and the cup is flawed. Jesus also said when he gave his apostle the loaf he said this means my body. According to ur logic we shouldnt be eating bread either.
MrOribear 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Obviously this "blood" that Jesus mentions at the last supper is not the same "blood" as mentioned that we should abstain from. Is this ur arguement that proves the JW's wrong? No wait telling JW's they shouldnt swear on utube is ur way of proving them wrong. You consider it a swear word. I do not,but if you prefer i will call you a jackass then, is that better? You dont understand the message of the scriptures coz if you did you would be JW and in the "truth"
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Trust me buddy I know a whole lot more about what the Society teaches than you ever will. I was a witness for 30yrs, pioneered, was a ministerial servant, served in brooklyn bethel for a number of years. But now, have grown a true love for the scriptures and for Jesus. I can consider myself a "true Christian" and yet I can refrain from using name slapping names. If you don't consider it a swear word use it at the Hall. Call someone that out loud. I guarantee you, an elder talk to you.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Dont call me ur buddy. Well whooppee you have been involved with the witnesses for 30 years. Well good for you, but it seems nothing the JW's taught you has sunk in? Let me guess you were unfairly disfellowshipped and now all you do is speak out against them for the wrongs they do. Bla bla bla!! Trust me apostate you may consider urself to be a "true christian" but all you have done is left the truth for life in dog vomit. Time for you to prove its ok to get a blood transfusion
MrOribear 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness So far apostate ur arguement might convince a four year child but ur a long way from convincing me so ur gunna have to do better that. Tell me apostate ur 30 years of being a witness, how many of them were you under the age of 18? You gunna tell me if you were kicked out or did you leave on ur own? You give me ur opinion and expect me to take it as fact I wanna make sure its not tarnished!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I'm not an apostate, I'm not disfellowshipped, I'm not disassociated. So stop name slapping me. I could do the same but I won't lower myself to your level. To be honest I stopped on my own accord of being a part of religion that deliberately with holds information from it's members. And, if that member decides to investigate his own religion and it's beliefs- that member is automatically labeled as an apostate or one questioning the Society,THIS MY FRIEND IS WRONG! God's gift is free.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness So apostate you were a witness when you were a child and then left when you were older, so in reality you dont really have the 30 years experience now do you, seeing how you were mostly just a kid when you were part of them. It doesnt really count. All the other rubbish ur saying well apostates say the same rubbish over and over. Told you I am not ur friend, and i will name slap you as often as I like. Why i am not a witness is of no concern to you!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I grew up a witness, was raised in it. I stopped being part of that FALSE religion...(and yes it is false), about 5 years ago. I did my research (like most witnesses SHOULD do). Things just didn't add up about certain things. #1- 607BCE is wrong #2 -1914 is wrong #3- There is no "Jesus Invisible presence" #4- flip flop doctrine (generaton teaching) #5 - And many,many more.
Oh yeah and by the way....know what a true apostate is before calling someone that.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Bla Bla bla. Tell me apostate if the JW's are not the correct faith, which faith is, and dont be telling me its Jesus coz we both know ur idea of who Jesus is and mine are very different. You tell me you believe and worship Jehovah, how do you do this? In what organisation do you worship him? We need an organisation to worship him and seeing how you are a "true christian" you obviously have the answer!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear "We need an organisation to worship him"- First of all you need to spell "organization" correctly. Second, where does it say in the bible that we need to be part of an "organization" to worship god? That's right Sherlock...nowhere does it say that! Also, what do you have to hide? Why can't I send you a private message? Are you Afraid the elders will find out? Pretty sad that a witness uses names like: Dumbass, and Jackass. I don't think you're gonna get into paradise that way!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness You would have to be an american, coz only an american would be so arrogant to tell someone how to spell a word which is correct in their country. In my country the word is spelt organisation not organization. So before you get up on ur high horse apostate learn the english language properly first DUMBASS!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness who said anything about getting into paradise and who the hell are you to tell me what you think. Ur opinion means nothing to me apostate. Neither do ur attempts to "prove" to me the JW's are wrong!! Sure you can quote heaps of scriptures that supposedly support ur rubbish but you will never know "truth" is. Are you gunna tell me Jesus is god now too? You really need to start thinking like a man apostate!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear What's truly obvious is that I'm much older than you, which would also mean I'm more mature. Your comments are very immature. I've done my research on the organization and know the "real truth" about the organization. You haven't,therefore you don't know certain things. You will only continue to believe what they spoon feed you and accept every word as "truth". What's the saddest part of all of this is this: If I'm a so-called "apostate" to you,WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness HAHAHA ur more mature are you? Yet you didnt know organiSation was spelt that way. Thats showing ur more mature!! Listen apostate you think you have done ur research but you know nothing. Ur thinking is no better than a childs.Now answer my questions apostate and quit stalling!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Maybe if you would give me a valid question to answer than I'll answer it! Go ahead give me one question. Most people prefer to spell orgnization with a "Z", I CAN HUMBLE MYSELF AND SAY IN A SENSE I WAS WRONG-It can be spelled either way. Let's see if you can come off your high horse and humble yourself. Go ahead ask me one valid question regarding Jehovah's witnesses? Or better than that, give me one,just one,piece of evidence that JW's are god's chosen organization! From the bible!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness I told you apostate dont write to me!! You thick or what? You know i cannot throw pearl before swine, you being the swine and all. My question were valid but ur too arrogant to look back and find them. In a sense you were wrong?? Not in a sense you are wrong and when you first thought i spelt it wrong didnt you get all high and mighty!! Most people spell it that way do they, dont think so dumbass, most uneducated yanks do!!The rest of the english speaking people spell it correctly
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Hey dude your a moron,you keep calling someone an apostate,what you dont realize is that if your on here commenting about the watchtower against their wishes that makes you an apostate by there standards.so shut up,your not making any points about anything,your an embarrassment to jehovahs witnesses.I know this because im an active witness,a moron like you is the exact kind of person that would become a witness.you dont know anything because you havent been a witness.
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Is this dude a joke or what?????????
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 is that right? Its funny how a JW has known apostates as friend/or subscribers on his channel. Ur full of it. Actually ur either wake up witness or one of his mates.Seen it before people using other ids to support their rubbish.I am calling you out moron you aint no witness, Ur also a dumbass,no JW is going to support the views of an apostate, ur a loser and a lying dog!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I am actually a jw who realizes he is in a cult,Im a 21 year old ministerial servant on his way out,I am a friend of wake up witness because I liked alot of his vids.since im a ministerial servant you should show some respect as I sheperd the flock.Im trying to get out without losing all of my family,ive abandoned the asinine way I used to think,unlike you.why dont you join the cult they could use another pedophile.
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 This dude is a lost cause! It's a real shame he doesn't do his research on the ORGANIZATION. Usually people like him regret it later. What's even funnier is that he thinks you and I are the same, not only has cognitive dissonance set in his brain, but also paranoia. Boy, I wish the folks in his hall knew he was talking to an ex-jw (I would say apostate, but that's their term that does not apply).
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness As an apostate i gotto say man you are dumb!! You all do the same thing, use other id's to back up what you say. Ur idiot girlie mate already told me you were friends(but thats a throw off) I think ur the same moron!! The "organisation concept" was implemented by Jesus and his apostles!! For someone who claims they were a witness for 30 years you dont know much of their teachings now do you dumbass!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Myself and guydudeman100 are two different people, but that's ok if you wanna keep thinking that we are the same person....I'm use to people like yourself being paranoid. Dude, get over yourself already. I'm done with you. Oh and one more thing before I ignore you completely.........FUCK OFF!!!!!!!! If you wanna support Jehovah's Witnesses and be a part of them get baptized....DUMBASS!!!! You're so stupid calling people apostates and supporting something you are not even a part of.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness hhmmm Damn you are dumb!! What do I care if you are or are not the same, ur both dumbasses. The conversation about whether you are the same was a while ago, not sure why ur that slow in keeping up. If you wanna be an apostate scumbag kill urself now and save Jehovah the trouble!! Ur done with me, then stop commenting to me moron!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Dude, you just opened yourself wide open with everyone who knows their stuff about the Society....go do your research on the Society and then come back on youtube. You don't know jack shit! You're probably only 20 yrs old. And always saying "Duhhh...the truth is the truth". Going through life with blinders on. Oh well, one day you'll see something that will change your mind about the Society. People like yourself are a joke...but then again witnesses are a joke.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness You idiot, you keep saying ur done with me yet here you are. Only a fool would defend a faith without knowing their history.There is nothing you can tell me about the JW's that I dont already know and yet here i am still defending them. They are the only faith that follow the scripture accurately. The crap you dribble to discredit I laugh at.You can turn away those who are shakey but you got no chance of convincing me coz I am smarter than you!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 ha, show you respect, keep dreaming nancy boy, you live a lie why the hell would i show respect to a wanna be apostate. Ur an idiot and since you havent offerred any constructive critizism or any logical thought you can leave!! Go on take a hike loser!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 They children of the JW's attend public schools, this is in direct conflict with the definition of what a cult is. You being the "sheppard of the flock" should know this. We speak English not american so the correct spelling would be paedophile and is this why you are leaving the faith, been touching up a few kids have we?? Moron, next you will calling me a terrorist!! Even wanna be apostates are dumbasses!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribearA cult has complete control over your life and you know this is true for jehovahs witnessess,people are always concerned about bringing reproach and getting enough time in service. I was one of those jw kids going to public schools,it wasnt too bad for me,wish i coulda played football tho,and listen moron I dont give a crap where the hell your from,Im from America,im gonna spell things the way I know.you would know how to spell pedophile I bet,If I was one,I wouldnt want to leave.
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 of course the JW's are concerned over bringing reproach against Jehovah's name and the organisation you dumbass. It doesnt make them a cult now does it!! Tell me nancy boy were the romans correct when they referred to Jesus and his followers as a sect/cult? Ur out of ur league and you should shut up before i really embarress you!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear How can actual people embarrass jehovah you moron,he created us you idiot.your embarrassing the organization you claim to not be a part of,youv obviously at least been affiliated with them for awhile because you know the inside lingo,tell me something do you really believe jesus is invisibly present?Did you read about world war 1 and say to yourself,must be Jesus?answer those questions and lets see how you can embarrass me?
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 sure dumbass i will answer ur question where you answer mine gaydudeman, were the romans correct when they called Jesus and his crew a cult!! Yes moron I believe in Jesus invisible presence. Who said anything about embarressing Jehovah I said i would embarrass you dumbass, damn ur dumb, even dumber that ur wakeupwitness girlie mate!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I have no problem with answering that question moron,the PAGAN romans were wrong about jesus being a cult.Jesus didnt go around handing out magazines either,he went directly to Gods Word and so did his apostles.do you really think Jesus couldnt manage to save 144,000 people?and reproach means to discredit,bring shame upon,embarrass moron.I answered your question,so tell me what convinces you that Jesus has been here invisibly since 1914 running an organization in Brooklyn?
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Hey J....this guy is a lost cause!!! I'm not even going to waste my time on him anymore. What a joke! Blinded by "the truth"....more like....blinded by the lies!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness I know,hoping to plant a seed,I dont believe hes not a jw since he accused you of having another alias,I bet he has another alias.jws love to have support from people who arent jws because it makes their points seem more valid.The fact that hes exposing himself to other opinions is good.I used to get mad when people said negative things about the organization also, but if you check into the facts and find out all the lies and coverups,you know there is no way this can be the truth
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Plant a seed, haha what a tosser, you claim ur a MS and in the wrong religion and yet you wanna plant the seed of doubt.Yep ur a mongrel all right.You weak gutless mutt. You hide in the shadows and make trouble. How many young JW's have you turned from Jehovah. Thank ur lucky stars lad we dont live in times when killing apostates was legal, coz you would be on my hit list, same with ur girlie mate!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I have no interest in turning anyone from being a witness,i just want out of the religion without losing my family,your always talking about killing apostates,an apostate according to the bible is someone who speaks out against god,an apostate to you is someone who disagrees wit the watchtower,I dont agree that christ is present because the bible says not to believe it,and it says dont listen to anyone saying the due time has approached.witnessess do both of these things.
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 You claim ur not here to turn anyone away from being a witness, well thats bs for a start. What the hell are you doing here then. I didnt start having a conversation with you. You defended the words of an apostate, infact you went further and said you were friends with one. Then you tell me ur in the faith as a MS but coz of ur family you stay and lead a deceptive life. Now you expect me to believe ur words that we have been deceived. Ur dreaming lad!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Now gaydudeman tell me what do the JW's do thats any different from what Jesus did? Apart from handing out magazines that is. Jesus gave signs that would be around when his presence would be, those signs are with us now but thats just in scripture, you would rather take the word of an apostate scumbag than to listen to the scriptures!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear
Well look who I found! .hmm Are you gonna tuck your little tail and run again? Your pretty good at doing this. Most bears will stand and fight, but you like to run, why?
1914watcher 1 year ago
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1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher Firstly Jackass, i have no idea of who you are(names not familiar) and I have never ran from any apostate so you must have me confused.with someone else If not then ur a lying maggot coz Bears fear no man(the occational woman perhaps) and i certainly dont back down from a good discusion.You found me?? Good for you now go away until i finished showing these other two apostates up!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear
If you remember, you once said that you wanted to kill me? Remember this? You are nothing, you claim to not be a Jw, but for some reason always defend the Jw view? You do realize this would make you a hypocrite? I have over 30 years invested in this organization, at least I served my time. My issues are not with the brothers, but with the leaders. I believe that you like to be the devil's advocate?
1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher I say this to all apostates so dont be thinking ur special. Why do i need to be a witness in order to defend their faith? Are you familiar with the cliche "i dont agree with what you say but i will die defending ur right to say it" I am a drug addict, i smoke weed. This prevents me from becoming a JW. I am working on giving it up. How does this make me a hypocrite? 30 years so what??Dont make you an expert!! Infact ur a dumbass for leaving the faith!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Showing the other apostates up???....Dude,YOU AIN'T PROVED NOTHING TO ME YET.....DUMBASS!!! I asked you to prove to me from the bible that Jehovah's Witnesses ARE THE SELECTED ORGANIZATION BY GOD. And instead you just rant and rave and call me names and keep saying it's "the truth"! Prove it! Prove to me it's the truth. Oh, and while you're at it.....prove to me Jesus started his "invisible presence in 1914".......FROM THE BIBLE..............I'm waiting...............................
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Mr "true christian" seems I dont have to show you up, ur doing a fine job on ur own. You condemn me for uses words like dumbass, moron etc and I dont claim to be a christian.You claim to be a "true christian" and you used vulgar language. mmhh bit hypocritical dont you think.Ahh thats right you dont think. Keep waiting coz I dont throw pearl before a swine(you being the swine) The scriptures tell me not to discuss them with an apostate and you are an apostate scumbag!! BYE!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Go get baptized you stupid hypocrite! You're on here talking to all these (so-called) "apostates" when the Society tells you not to. Shouldn't you follow what they teach?? It's so obvious you are an ignorant little pup who knows nothing about the organization. Go do your research....then come back on here. You're a lost cause!!!!!!!!!!!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness and just how am I a hypocrite jackass, have I claimed to be a "true christian"? Have I used filthy and discusting language after condemning others for using minor swear words? Seems to me ur actions and ur words prove you to be the hypocrite and ur claim I know nothing about the organiSation.Well lets say there is nothing you can tell me about the JW's that i dont already know. I am a lost cause, you are the walking dead!! I spit in ur face you filthy apostate scum!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear "I spit in ur face you filthy apostate scum!!"....Wow, now I REALLY don't want to be a part of that organization ever again. You are a sad excuse for someone representing "the truth" and "ones who show genuine love". Not only can you not back anything up from scripture, but you aren't even baptized!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a joke. And yes, YOU are the hypocrite.........calling people dumbass, jackass, apostate, spitting in their faces. If only your elders heard you talk like that!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Dumbass!! I have no love in me.I am the worst kind of human you never wanna meet. I dont represent the JW's and who the hell are you to tell me I am not baptised? For all you know I was baptised as a huri chrishna when I was a kid. Ur a moron who assumes too much.I just wouldnt spit on ur face apostate I would be picking up the biggest rock and slamming into ur head!! People like you make me sick.You claim ur a "true christian" but ur words and actions make you a satanic prick!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Picking up a rock and slamming me in the head???? Satanic Prick??? Dumbass?? Moron?? You ain't going to get into paradise like that!!! You are truly sad.....and immature. You can't even give me any evidence from scripture....sherlock! All you do is call people apostate and talk about spitting in their faces or throwing rocks on their heads. Why don't you back up what you support by scripture.....THAT...right there my friend... is truly DUMBASS!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Its got nothing to do with not knowing or not be able to prove anything, i probably cant coz i dont know, I dont claim to know all things. I do however know the scripture that says dont throw pearl before a swine.You are a swine and theres no way in hell I am going to discuss anything religious with you. You are a hypocritical and a wanker and even if the scripture didnt say this I still wouldnt discuss scripture with you coz ur a idiot and have a personality of a dead bullfrog!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Ok....instead of arguing back and forth..let's just stick with one logical point.....PROVE TO ME FROM THE BIBLE THAT 1914 WAS THE START OF THE LAST DAYS AND JESUS STARTED HIS INVISIBLE PRESENCE. If I don't get an answer from you, I assume you don't know (which is sad)...or you just can't find it in the bible.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness I will never argue with person who claims they are a "true christian" and then uses vulgar words when they lose control. Ur a hypocrite and a rabid dog and you need to be put down!! Now piss off you apostate scumbag!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear YOU'VE BEEN ARGUING WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME !!!!!!!!! ME USING VULGAR WORDS???? YOU'VE BEEN USING THEM ALSO YOU HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!
I got a good notion to tell your elders you've been talking to an "apostate" (even though I'm not an apostate-because an apostate is someone who turns their back on god). Now piss off you fake, un-baptized, unknowledgable, immature, JW wanna be!! You're the poorest excuse for someone representing that false organization!!!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Man are you thick or what?? Told you already dumbass I am not a witness and I donot attend any kingdom halls. You are apostate coz i say so!! Good on you for showing me how a "true christian" is meant to act. Ur use of profanities doesnt suprise me!! Ur the hypocrite ur just too stupid to know!! Get Bent!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Is this your goal?? To just keep sending me stupid messages? Are you lonely or something and need someone to talk to?? Stop wasting my time YOU JW WANNA BE TROLL!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Yeah I am just giggling over ur comments!! "MrTrueChristian"
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear You're pathetic.......it's obvious you don't have a life.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@MrOribear The bible describes the leaders who were saying this kind of thing as false prophets in matt:24:23-27 and in luke 21:8 he says not to go after them,and in 2nd Peter 2:1 these false prophets are described as leaders of destructive sects.I know what you believe very well my friend because I used to believe it.you accuse me of listening to an apostate over the scriptures but in actuality its what your doing,we have been misled my friend.
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Jesus stated that he came to cause division among families.You state the JW's are wrong, which according to you if there wrong then they must be satanic. Means you are worshipping the devil in disguise and do this for the sake of ur family. What a crock of shit!! Nothing you say holds any merit with me and dont refer to us as friends again. We are not friends.Ur in a religion you hate and you are deceiving ur family and ur freinds. Makes you a hypocrite!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Ur young so i accept ur lack of logical thinking abilities. You rely upon the understanding of scriptures by others but tell me something. How is gods organisation(whatever faith that is) meant to be perfect?This world belongs to satan which means even Jehovah's organisation has been influenced by satan. The scriptures say one god one faith. What according to you is this faith? Whats its name. Obviously, they never make mistakes and have never been wrong about anything!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear You say the scriptures say one god,one faith.right in the same context of that scripture it says one hope,but witnessess believe in two hopes dont they.most people are restricted from going to heaven read what jesus says about people who do that in matt23:13-15.thats a jehovahs witness in a nutshell.you call me a hypocrite for remaining a jw and your right,ill be a hypocrite as long as I remain one and so will you,im tryin to get out as smoothly as possible.theres no honorable way out
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Use ur brain lad. You have a woman, if you do i can bet my life you accept her for all her faults. Yet an organisation which the scripture indicate they are the correct faith you hide in and deceive people because some of the things they say and do arent perfect. Tell me a faith thats more accurate with the scriptures? You havent answered my question. What do the JW's do that Jesus didnt do?
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I used to believe we were the most accurate also until I started looking beyond our own publications.you will find out if you do research also,so you really think matt24;45-47 is a scripture indicating that there would be a bunch of ppl who hand out magazines.I recomend you read that whole chapter in context,in fact just read the bible without all those watchtowers that taylor your opinion to what they want.stop letting the ""faithful slave"" tell you what to think,think for yourself
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 I have my done research and i can promise you I have alot more knowledge than you have. I have been doing this since before you were born. I know the JW have there bad points and i know all about their history.Like i said there is nothing you can tell me about them that I dont already know. In this imperfect world they are Jehovah people, unless you can tell me another faith that offers more true!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear
According to the WTBTS you are either in the pin or out of the pin. They call this "riding the fence". What is funny is you are on the outside of the fence saying "You better stay in the pin". You case is absolutely pointless. If you decide to start another cult, let me know, I done figured this one out. Maybe I can join yours next.
1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher Yep I am sitting on the fence, which kinda takes the decision to have kids out of my hands. So be it. Ok so I am sitting on the fence, well actually I am not. When this systems ends I will die with the rest of you scum.I have no problems with that, infact I have no desire to have my sins forgiven. I have done terrible things for which I deserve to die and i want to be held accountable.Jehovah might forgive but my unfortunate victim dont!! Such is life!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear We all commit horrible sins on a daily basis, nobody deserves to die...not even you.. :) Loser..lol J/K
Call me every name under the sun if it makes you feel better, but you won't upset me. I am fine with your viewpoint of me. I don't wish for anyone to die, regardless of their view.
1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher Its not my intention to upset you. Nor do i care what you think or ur opinions As a person ur probably a nice one, as an apostate you deserve to die. When anyone speaks out about our creator and/or anything he has established needs to be put down.Simple, when you speak out about what he has establish you need to die!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear why do you think they say guard against independent thinking?wake up.its a cult,a time consuming cult,why do you think they want all of your time?cult.anyone who doesent agree with them is silenced and cast out.they have complete control over your life. judge if someone is spiritual or not by how many hairs they had on ther chin,because society says no beards,wtf.I havent seen any scriptures that support your point, any scripture you know I know,because weve been taught the same thing
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 who doesnt want control over our lives?? Every government is trying to take control atleast with the witnesses there is no bad motives for it. As for ur issue with beards, so what, if you get a job in say a bank they have a dress code and an appearance code, hey even Maccas ur not allowed to have visable tats. Anyway nothing prevents people from having beards, sure you wont have an active role within the congregation but thats the price we pay.
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 ok tell me why I am a hypocrite, have i stated that I am Not a JW, have I not given you reasonable explainations as to why I defend the truth. What makes me a hypocrite? You toss these words around without demonstrating they are true. You are the liar and the hypocrite and I have demonstrated why (actually you did) You lie to ur family/friends and to Jehovah and you have the gall to call me a hypocrite!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear you say you have more knowledge than me yet you ignore every scripture presented and just turn to insulting,and your a hypocrite because you believe this is the truth and yet are no part of it.i dont lie to my family and friends,nobody ever asks me if I believe its the truth,they assume so and im on my way out anyway idiot.if you cant respond to the scriptures then im done talkin to you,because your a moron who will never learn anything.The bible says your stupid you know,i can show u
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 I havent ignore ur scriptures at all.I have been addressing other issues!! So I will let you have ur little dummy spit and I will continue. Yeah you are lying to ur family and friends, sure maybe no one has asked you but as a witness you go door to door preaching the truth. You are living a lie!! You dont wanna be there but ur there only coz you dont wanna cause grief with ur family and friends.Ur fam and friends believe you to be part of the JW faith with them. You lie to them!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 You can sugar coat it if you like but that doesnt change the fact that ur lies are also affecting ur relationship with ur creator. No god(whatever the name) accepts people who are delibrately and continuely lying to their loved ones. As a believer in Jehovah, i try to adhere to his words in the scriptures and its clear how to treat apostates. You may not be an apostate now but sure enough ur heading down that track coz as soon as you leave ur gunna badmouth them even more!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 You mentioned early about Jesus and his presence. The JW's have their interpretation of when that occurred. You have stated that I should prove this in the scriptures.You,being a JW you know what the societies answer to this is, and for arguements sake lets say I agree with them.Thats not the issue, coz the sriptures say about his presence.If you dont believe the JW's version of when it happened, you tell me when it happened(or will) and prove it to me that ur right!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 You claim you can prove the JW's wrong in many ways. Ok thats fine, I am sure that you once you leave the JW's you going to go to the faith that is 100% accurate when it comes to interpreting the scriptures. You can "prove"the JW's wrong but so far you havent given me any indication to what is a better faith!! Yes I want to see the scripture that says ORIBEAR is stupid!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@1914watcher The wages for sin is death, ur telling me noone deserves to die reguardless of their views, do I take that you think no-one should die for any of their views.What about expressed views For eg if some son of a bitch said he wants to break into ur house and rape, torture and murder ur pet cat would you still be saying the same thing? Or what about some sick mutt who publicly states they should legally be allowed have sex with 5 year old toddlers!! Yeah some people do need to die!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@1914watcher You said you found me again? This implies we have chatted before? However in my comments, inbox, and personal letters ur name doesnt appear, and i never delete again. Which as an assumption i would assume it was on another id of urs. I know its not mine coz this is my only active account, and ur name doesnt appear on the 2 other non active accounts which i have. I could be mistaken which could proved if you tell me the name of the site we talked on!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear
It was on a thread from a few months ago, I don't see any reason to bring it up again. Listening to your story about your feelings, it drove your point across to me. Correct me if I am wrong, You love the truth, but have personal vices that keep you from being who you really want to be? You get angry at people who denouce the WTBTS, because they are leaving or want to leave? If you want to conquer your vices and be Jw again, I truly hope that you can achieve this.
1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher mmmhhh please tell me ur not gunna keep trying to analize me are you, coz you will never come close to understanding who I am. So dont even try!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear
At some point your going to have to accept why you feel the way you do about yourself. Someone has been telling you how bad you are, and how you have no hope. I don't think that you fully understand the love that came from the ransom of Christ Jesus. Just think about King Manasseh, he scarificed his children, He built altars to pagan gods,sawed the prophet Isaiah in half? Yet, Jehovah forgave Manasseh (2 Chronicles 33:11-13) Who on this thread has done anything as bad as this?
1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher At some point ur gunna have to stop assuming that you know what ur talking about. Nobody has ever said to me that I am a bad person who is unworthy of forgiveness and have no hope.I am educated therefore i do know the meaning of the ransom sacrifice!! King Manesseh saw the error of his ways and sought forgiveness. Ive seen the error of my ways and I choose not to seek forgiveness.Like I said Jehovah forgives us but our victims never do!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear proverbs 18:2,6,7.there are more,you certainly fit the description in these scriptures.Im sure there is no faith that is 100% accurate,however jesus says that he is the way,the TRUTH,and the light.you say im lying to my family because I stay,maybe you dont understand because u were never baptized but you cant just leave.theres no honorable or easy way out.Im done talking to you because proverbs 26:4-5 says I shouldnt respond to you.I really hope you find peace mate,bye
guydudeman100 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Dont be quoting any scriptures you live a lie & you dont have the moral right to quote anything scriptural at me Dont give a rats ass if ur done with me & I aint ur mateThere is no honour lying to ur family and friends as well.Who cares if there is no honourable or easy way put. Just leave and be done with it & deal with the consequences later.Maybe I do understand & maybe i just dont agree with you and maybe I just think ur a weak and gutless kid who should grow some balls!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@guydudeman100 Don't waste your time with this JW troll...his only goal on youtube is to argue with people. He has no life and probably no friends....poor guy is a lost cause.....oh, and did I mention a real DUMBASS. Someone sent me a message that all he likes to do is argue with people by supporting JW's but has nothing to back it up. Pretty sad considering the moron ain't even baptized.....what a dope!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness what a wanker you are. Somebody sent me a letter telling me ur just a soft cock nancy boy who claims their a "true christian" but ur a hypocrite and a moron, oh yeah and a dumbass!! Cant be forgetting that one!! Dont worry schoolboy I know who you are!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear May God Bless your ignorance.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness May god bless ur stupidity!! Moron!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Get a life dude! Oh wait..... you already have a life...... with a false prophet organization....my bad!
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Yeah as if you being a "true christian" and all would know what a false prophet organiSation is. Ur an idiot!! You dont have a clue what ur talking about. Now you said you were done with me maggot I took you for ur word now bugger off!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear I sure do know what a False Prophet is.... It's very simple Forest Gump. Let me break down very simple for your slow brain to understand: The Watchtower claims to be a prophet, they set dates that did not come to pass and did not originate from Jehovah, according to Deut. 18:20-22 that qualifies them as a False Prophet....HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??? It's so simple even my 2 yr old could understand it. Now, instead of insulting me..prove to me they are not a false prophet.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness you moron,as a "true christian" you should know I am prevented from discussing anything religious with you. Aside from that you mentallity is even younger than ur 2 year olds and any conversation would be wasted on you dumbass!! Now are you done with me or what?
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Wow... thats allot of cursing from a professed Christian. "know them by their fruits"
21crosscheck21 1 year ago
@21crosscheck21 another moron great!! Show me my words where i profess to be a Jehovah's Witness. This other moron claims to be a "true christian" and has used vulgar words to me and I dont see you commenting on his language. So why dont mind ur own business and stop interfering in things that arent ur concern!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear It's funny how it's always the prideful, those who think they are more intelligent then others that display an utter lack of self control and are prone to childish name calling. Always calling others wrong but never able to cobble together a sensible argument and never able to deal with facts. Good luck with that.
21crosscheck21 1 year ago
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@21crosscheck21 no whats funny is morons like you who think they know what they are talking about, now piss off you maggot and go bother someone else. Moron!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Awwww....did 21crosscheck21 hurt your wittle feelwings? Dude, why don't you come up with some new material? Instead of calling people moron, dumbass, and different names, BACK UP WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN!! Ok...here's one for ya to chew on: Show me in the bible where it says Jesus started his invisible presence in 1914. There...plain and simple....no argument....no name calling.....just show me that one thing....just show me that one thing.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Now you starting to talk like a kid, ur not bright are you mr true christian, tell you what, since you claim ur a true christian why dont you tell me what Jesus meant by "the generation" I am sure you know the meaning of every scripture in the bible. Dont you dare prayer to ur god on my behalf for my ignorance I spit on ur god and on you. Ur an apostate and you deserve to die you maggot!! Come on moron back up ur claims that ur a "true christian"
MrOribear 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness It's so nice to see Jehovah's good people cursing you out.
21crosscheck21 1 year ago
@21crosscheck21 All I can say is God Bless his ignorance. He's has not yet backed up anything he says. The only thing he knows how to do is call people moron, dumbass, and jackass just to keep them talking back and forth to him. He's probably some poor, lonely, lost, young unbaptized JW who keep's thinking that it's "the truth", because he still lives at home and his Mommy goes to the Kingdom Hall.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
@WakeUpWitness Ur a "true christian" you know that I am prevented from discussing scripture with you and you give me crap about not defending the JW's. What kinda "faith" are you in that allows you to break the law of Jehovah? Dont discuss scripture with apostates. Ur an apostate so why the hell would i disobey Jehovah for you?? God you are so dumb!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
@MrOribear Just as I thought, you can't prove Jesus started his invisible presence in 1914, so then you just revert back to calling me names. What scripture says "Don't discuss scripture with apostates?" I'll answer your question: What Jesus meant by generation does not apply to us today. The generation has not even come upon the scene yet. The generation would see all the things that Jesus said would occur, it's future. They would see the beginning and end. The Watchtower has it all wrong.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
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@WakeUpWitness You as a so called "true christian" should be aware of how apostates are to be treated, if you bothered to get a grasp of the scriptures you wouldnt need me to explain it to you. The WT has it wrong does it?? Those things that Jesus said would happen, floods, pestilence etc etc are happening now moron!! For someone who claims they have the truth you know nothing!! Now for the love of god be done with me!!
MrOribear 1 year ago
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1914watcher 1 year ago
@1914watcher You should stop assuming that I give a rats ass. So what if all that crap happened to you, life isnt one happy picnic now is it. Shit happens and rather than you try counselling me try getting some urself. You picked the wrong person if you want some sympathy. To quote "quite frankly dear I dont give a damn"
MrOribear 1 year ago