Barbara Boxer Laments Partisanship During Day 1 of Climate Change Hearings

[mvbeckril]

All she needs now is a bunch of piercings and tats. What a disgrace she is.....

[quicksite]

Wow-finally after 9 months or more of being AWOL, my Senator Boxer has finally surfaced to champion progressive legislation? WHERE have you been Senator all this time?.. silent on practically every issue.. giving Obama passes on every broken campaign promise. You have really disappointed me from a year or so ago not pushing to strip out FISA Reto Immunity for Telcoms. You're up for re-election, you better redouble your efforts. I don't know what's happened to you, but thank god you're PRESENT.

[Iceberg6606]

The GOP fiddles while the planet burns.

[bigc028282]

Ask her who killed the electric car?

[asphyxiafeeling]

Good. I love having Boxer be our senator in CA. 5*

[quicksite]

I *used* to love it - back when she grilled Condi Rice, but where has she been all this year? Have barely heard a PEEP from her. There's no one better than her running but I have to say I've been deeply disappointed with her being AWOL on the other pressing issues of the day. I also remind all that Boxer came to Joe's aid to defeat Ned Lamont -- in a Senate loyalty quid pro quo move. WHERE'S OUR PAYBACK FROM JOE, Boxer? It's time you push him ON THE RECORD since you were so quick to aid him.

[asphyxiafeeling]

I think the bait and switch that progressive 'establishment democrats' like to play with their base- Come out strong on issues that are politically safe to fight for (climate change) but remain mysteriously absent when it comes to anything that takes some political courage. It's frustrating, but you just think "well better to have Boxer then somebody worse... right?"

[quicksite]

Yes, that's it precisely. In the case of Boxer, though, she was more consistent during the Bush admin. I have actually wondered, seriously, if she had a health issue that caused her to take quite a bit of time off, just showing up for votes. I don't want someone *better* than boxer; she's great when she steps up. What I want is the Boxer before all this faux Obama-style progressive governance. I also think Boxer is worried about this new re-election bid. I wish she'd just be her prior self.

[dafttool]

I don't expect the GOP to lift a finger on this or any other issue the Dems bring up...unless it is to obstruct them. They have a vested interest in seeing the Dems & Obama fail. And they could care less about the ramifications of America failing (as evidenced after their disgraceful reaction to the failed Olympics bid). The GOP don't believe in manmade climate change or are unconcerned about it. They have no intention of bipartisanship. The Dems should leave them to their disgruntled grumbling.

[1samothrace77]

the shit these ppl are not telling us is that the NW passage in canada is now passable 8 months out of the year when it was only 2-3 months of the year.

[hellshade2]

quite honestly i'm sick and tired of everyone talking about bipartisanship. it's not happening. anything the democrats suggest the republicans just say no to and the dems won't agree with the republicabs because the repubs want everything thier way or no way. both groups are like spoiled kids and both have thier own agendas. and those agendas do not coincide with what ameican citizens really want....

[bigc028282]

I am sure she was OK with the addition of the 300 additional pages that were added at 3AM, to the Crap in trade bill.

What happened to the "time to read" the bills that MR CHANGE promised us?

HOPE in one hand, and BUSH in the other.

[terrence0258]

You can read the HELP and Finance Committee health care bills online, they've been up for a while now. Also the cap and trade bill hasn't been brought to the senate floor because one hasn't passed out of any committee yet. I hope you enjoy reading the final senate health care bill though, it will be online after its scored by the CBO. It's probably gonna take you about 20 hours to read so you should probably set aside some time.

[bigc028282]

Wouldn't it be awesome if our representatives would actually read all this crap,and do the right things, so we didn't have to be the police of the BS?

Instead we get "treaties" backed by the Rothschild banker machine, that supersedes our constitution.

[terrence0258]

Are you a conspiracy theorist, anarchist or both.

[bigc028282]

You must not understand what the constitution allows when a treaty is made. Do you know the 2 kinds of treaties?

Why are there 2 kinds, and what does it mean?

Maybe you really didn't know about the 300 pages added to the crap in trade bill.

Do you know what was in those 300 pages?

Are you just a follower, who believes what ever your told?

[terrence0258]

Okay, so you're both.

[bigc028282]

And your typical.

Why can't you restarts address the issues, and FACTS? Pull your head out and take a breath. If you don't like our country based on OUR Constitution, and rule of law, then find another and stop f*cking ours up.

The Copenhagen "treaty" IS backed by the Rothschild bankers. It WILL supersede the Constitution. It WILL undermine the sovereignty of those countries that sign it.

Following the treaty, we will get a dollar collapse/ NWcurrency. The "bailout" and derivatives=100+yrs GDP

[ehkinoh]

No one takes you seriously bigc...

You're just another conspiracy theory loon!

[47f0]

I see your problem, bigc - you thought you were on the Alex Jones nutcase channel, but you accidentally got connected to the real world. That explains your cognitive dissonance.

In the meantime, in reality-land, yes, anthropogenic climate change is real, and yes, cap-and-trade works, it's why we don't have acid rain all over, because we did C&T for sulfur, and no, the Rothschilds/Illuminutti/grey aliens aren't actually trying to enlsave us all.

You may go back to knitting your tin-foil hats.

[bigc028282]

AJ IS BS, and YOU just debunked yourself with your post.

The Rothchild banker cartel is "behind" the Copenhagen "treaty", and it WILL supersede the Constitution of our USA. You don't know much about treaties, and our constitution do you. Did you know there are 2 different way to have a treaty in our country?

Try doing some research into what the 30k, with 9k PhD's have concluded about YOUR "crap in trade".

Why can't you followers own your stupidity?

Typical response with no substance.

[47f0]

Uhmm - yeah, bigc. If I decode your incoherent ramblings correctly, I can only come to one conclusion. You need to tell the nice men in white coats who give you "room service" at the "hotel" you stay at to adjust the "candy" they give you every few hours. But I can see know how you ended up in the constitutional literalist wing of your facility - they found you drooling on a street corner after you discovered that the Supreme Court has almost always sided with Hamilton. Must have been a shocker.

[bigc028282]

If I decode you ignorant post correctly, I understand you have not read the "crap in trade/carbon tax, the Copenhagen "treaty", or the Constitution of the United States of America.

This would mean that anything you post, is based on ignorance, and a desire to TROLL.

This is a country ruled by law. The Constitution allows for 2 ways for a treaty to be implemented. You should read the things you SHILL/TROLL so you have some credibility.

So far, all I am getting from you is ATTENTION TROLL.

[bigc028282]

How is it that "cap in trade" works, when you haven't even read it, and it is not through the process that will allow implementation?

Do you not understand how treaties supersede our constitution? Is the "real world" a place where you don't do any research at all. Green Peace is one of the organizations that has made it possible for you to read the treaty; as it exist today. You should try reading it. Pay attention to the verbiage including "government", and " redistribution". You can try.

[leftygunz704]

where can you go online to see these bills?

[StephinRazin]

Who really believes in global warming anymore? I mean anyone with an iota of curiosity or reason can find overwhelming evidence against man mande climate change.

[terrence0258]

You mean evidence like the polar ice caps disappearing?

[bigc028282]

The Copenhagen "treaty", backed by the Rothschilds, will supersede the Constitution of the US, and affect the sovereignty of all countries that sign onto it.

30,000+ scientists, with over 9,000 PhD's+ call BS on this, and they get trumped by 50 out of the UN.

Green Peace and other organizations have made the "treaty" available, as it is written yesterday. READ it and attempt some comprehension.

The US has already been ripped of with the "bailout", and derivatives, = to 100+ yrs of our GDP.

[checkurself]

I like Boxer. She is better than Feinstein, in my opinion. I just hope she'll really make the changes we need for the better of all Americans.

[sirfith]

Did she demand everyone call her senator?

She worked so hard for that title.

[EmperorAtahualpa]

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[tj5555555]

why is it so cold so early this year? it's a new ice age on the way. fur coats anyone? tj

[carrierexchange]

clearly, you have no clue

[tj5555555]

c-ge: and clearly you have no glue. nothing but a go along with the blame America first crowd. All you support is the further dis-empowerment of my nation via a global tax on America as reparations for the ficticious global warming scam. If you had "glue" you would "stick" up for the USA.  Left is for loser. tj

[carrierexchange]

asshat, I said clue not glue.

I don't blame America for anything. I blame the dumb ignorant people like you pushing out unsubstantiated, unproven bullshit that global warming is a scam. You know the evidence points to the contrary, you know there is a scientific consensus on the matter but you choose to ignore it all and consider it a hoax.

You're nothing but an ignorant troll.

[tj5555555]

c-ge: i said glue because i ment glue. Obvious to all that you have become un-glued. What a limited vocabulary of vulgarities expresses is that you must resort to such when confronted with real opposition to your delusional opinion. Fact is there is a small amount of global warming and an equal amount of global cooling that is the result of "SUN-SPOT" activity. The false aspect is that human fuel use is able to cause the warming. You manipulate data for political reasons that are the hoax. tj

[carrierexchange]

Pseudo-science bullshit.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Sun-spot activity has nothing to do with the recent rapid increase in global temperatures. However, and I don't know if you can comprehend this, it's been PROVEN (and there is a consensus in the scientific community) that massive amounts of CO2 combined with deforestation are the CAUSE.

[tj5555555]

c-ge: you have neither a clue nor glue. You rely upon radical left political university professors that intimidate you into believeing in "human caused global warming" for fear of being excluded from the so called "in crowd" party the same way people were intimidated to believe the earth was flat in the dark ages. As for CO2, it's what you exhale and trees use for photosynthesis. Stupid to think CO2 is bad. Read a book for yourself and stop simply accepting the status quo. tj

[carrierexchange]

"As for CO2, it's what you exhale and trees use for photosynthesis. Stupid to think CO2 is bad"

Wow, just wow. You are THAT retarded! And you tell me to read a book? Wow, Here's a quote from wikipedia: "Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas as it transmits visible light but absorbs strongly in the infrared and near-infrared."

What part of greenhouse gas you don't get?!?

[tj5555555]

c-ge: what part of "greenhouse" do you not understand? Do you not know that a greenhouse is what is used to grow veggies in the cold winter time? Greenhouse gas is good for plants, helps them grow, they grow, we eat plants, we exhale CO2, and the cycle continues. Greenhouse gas helps to prevent global ice ages. Do you think man is capable of balancing a global atmosphere better than nature can? Consider that man can't balance a simple national economy but you think man can balance the world. tj

[carrierexchange]

"Do you not know that a greenhouse is what is used to grow veggies in the cold winter time? Greenhouse gas is good for plants, helps them grow, they grow, we eat plants, we exhale CO2, and the cycle continues. "

How old are you? You're very very dumb.

[tj5555555]

c-ge: what bothers you more? : that you are arguing with a child or that the child is smarter then you? tj (a child of God)

[carrierexchange]

I think we already established that you are a fucking idiot by your shallow, stupid and plain wrong description of the planet's carbon cycle: "Greenhouse gas is good for plants, helps them grow, they grow, we eat plants, we exhale CO2, and the cycle continues."

You have no place discussing these things on youtube or anywhere else for that matter.

[tj5555555]

c-ge: is that a reflection of your opinion of the constitutional right to "freedom of speech" ? Is it you that has the right to say who is allowed to speak? You are now exposed as the under cover tyrant that you are. Scratch a lefty and find a commie. tj

[carrierexchange]

So when you're factually wrong you demand the right to speak your non-sense under the constitution? Can you not see how pathetic you are?

[bigc028282]

"They" have turned into a debate on issues and science that scientist can't agree on, instead of the BS crap in trade bill/carbon tax verbiage, and the Copenhagen "treaty" that will supersede our Constitution.

[JBeatty17]

"Scientists can't agree on?" Please, this issue has been settled within the legitimate scientific community (those that have PhD's from respectable research institutions instead of Southern Bible colleges) for over 30 years.

[bigc028282]

Selective comprehension. 30,000+ scientists, with over 9,000 PhD's don't agree with the 50+plus UN associated scientists, that started it."Climate change" exists, and so does the "crap in trade/carbon-Copenhagen "treaty that will supersede our Constitution. Do you have a clue where our carbon credit money is going? Have you read the "treaty", or better yet the Constitution. Treaties supersede the Constitution unless congress doesn't get behind it.Then the pres can do it, but it can be rescinded

[JBeatty17]

Only 30,000 scientists, only of which less than one-third have PhD's? You'll have to do a little better than that. And it's funny that the only members of Congress who deny global warming are far-right religious zealots. Why aren't any Democrats GW deniers? Only a few Republicans lawmakers and of course far-right media hacks like Glenn Beck. Even Bill O'Reilly admitted he believes in man-made GW.

[bigc028282]

You have a problem with comprehension don't you. I said, climate change exists. The elite have come up with another way to SCAM US, with the BS carbon tax, and a "treaty" that WILL supersede the Constitution. The verbiage in the "treat" includes the creation of "government" and "distributional". Do you have a clue who gets the money? Have you read the "treaty" Have you ever read the UN AGENDA21?

"THEY" love the division that is created over debating "climate change", instead of the agenda's.

[tj5555555]

J-17: but still 10,000 PhD's is still more then 50 UN associated scientists. Do you have trouble with Math and Sciense? Ocean levels not rising tells the story that if ice is melting one one side of the ice caps then it is also re-forming on the other side of the ice cap. Check the early snow fall at record levels this year. Perhaps all those UN scientists should be warning about the comming ice age. tj

[JBeatty17]

"50 UN associated scientists?" Try 96% of the scientists belonging to the NAS. By the way, 10,000 is pretty abstract. Seems like a number you pulled out of your ass. Why am I not surprised?

[tj5555555]

J-17 : 10,000 is 1/3 of the # presented above. And how many actual Phd scientists is that 96% of your's represent? Try 500. That still leaves you down by 9,500 scientists. Seems you Libs are holding the small cards in this poker game. tj

[JBeatty17]

That's what I thought. Numbers pulled straight from your ass. 10,000? Really? You couldn't be a little more creative with your bullshit numbers, like maybe 9,654 or some other number? Nope, the best you could do was 10,000 on the nose. What are the odds?

[integral]

tj, why is it you always sound like a parrot, a parrot burbbling Fox nooze crap?

Is you life a little easier when you don't have to think?

[tj5555555]

i-al: i do think, and act upon what i think, more like a hawk then a parrot, but even a parrot is deadly to a snake. The snakes & commies on the left are the target, not you little chirping magpies. tj

[carrierexchange]

You're a fucking idiot with an IQ no more then 60.

[tj5555555]

c-ge: and what does that say about you for loosing an argument with me? (hint: less then 60) . tj

[carrierexchange]

Ahaha! You don't understand what a carbon cycle is and you claim yourself the winner? Again, PATHETIC!

[tj5555555]

c-ge: yes, the champion. Check the ocean levels, negligible rise means the ice is forming as fast as it's melting. That's CHAMPION. tj

[carrierexchange]

A wise man once said: "You can't reason with religious people. If you could reason with them there would be no religious people."

[tj5555555]

c-ge: don't be suprised to find such a "wise" man in a very hot spot for eternity, and that will give new meaning to this global warning issue for him & you. tj

[ehkinoh]

LOL, what a joke!

"Global warming??? But it's chilly outside!!"

That's not how Global Warming works. It isn't about the temperature outside where you live, it's about the temperature near the poles increasing, causing ice caps to melt, which then raises the sea level.

[tj5555555]

e-oh: ice cap reduction and increases are happening equally at the same time on each pole based upon the axis tilt. The part of each cap that is tilted more to the sun melts whereas the part tilted away grows. The axis tilt is changing, thus the variation in location changes in the ice cap. If there was much ice melting more then that which is forming, the oceans would show significant rise. Check sea level changes as negligible. You will not lol when tax increases cause $5 /gal gas. tj

[carrierexchange]

It's funny how you use "science" to disprove a worldwide scientific consensus. Don't you think the real scientists with PhD would like to know your (retarded) theory?

Moron.

[tj5555555]

C-ge: by the way , do you know what those degrees really mean? BS= bull s---, MS= more of the same, Phd= piled higher & deeper. By the way , my life of education hasn't hurt me none. tj

[JBeatty17]

First you pull "10,000 scientists" with PhD's out of your ass, and now you are denigrating education and advancement?  What a joke. How are are you again? I think you've told me before, but I can't recall if it was 12 or 15.

[tj5555555]

J-17 : the numbers quoted back to you come from your own comment above stating 1/3 of the 30,000+ scientists had Phd's. If you are unable to apply continuity to your own words you lead to arguing with yourself. Check your own post above. As for my age,12 or 15, i am old enough to see through your forgetfulness as probably a sign of dementia. tj ( see your own comment 1 day ago and 17 comments above this comment and see where the 10,000 figure comes from, YOU , J-17) who's your daddy now? tj

[carrierexchange]

Kid turn off the internet, you are clearly out of your league.

[tj5555555]

c-ge read above comment to support you ailing friend J-17. tj

[LeGioNoFZioN]

Lame. should have watched 20/20 on Friday Boxer. global warming can be reversed. google Intellectual Ventures.

[PersonalJesus348]

oh yeah... Capitalism has worked so great the bourgeoisie went to socialism...

[LeGioNoFZioN]

and the socialists in Beijing and Moscow became capitalists ... so what is this world coming to ?

[tj5555555]

L-oN: answer, in my opinion, is what my old uncle Pete would say. The world is going to a socialist "mushy" condition when men that know & love freedom become fat & lazy. Being lean & smart makes the free enterprise system work. Free Enterprise system does not equal Capitalism and the attempt to meld the two together is a "trick" of the left to de-moralize the right. Conservatives are not for "Capitalism" but are for "Free Enterprise" and against "Socialism" and against "Communism". tj

[navtel]

it is apparent the american congress is good a doing nothing but supporting the war and taking people rights by passing all the presidents bills.. the collective lot of them aren't worth the powder to you know what.