If you truly respect and love Thrall then trust and respect his decision! Garrosh is warchief whether we like it or not, just deal with it and hope for the best. (I play undead btw) If anyone has read the novel "Wolfheart" It shows Garrosh is quite the tactician, he assaulted a meeting between Tyrande and Varian (almost getting Tyrande killed) hell the Horde was even winning the battle until Varian, Shandris Feathermoon, and a group of Worgen stepped in.
@Dertheante I'll admit that I gained a great deal of respect for Garrosh. He may be an obnoxious warmonger but at least he's got a code of honor so despite my complaints about him, at least there's SOME hope for him. Let's hope he can build on it.
Garrosh has no right to sit on that throne. It's perfectly obvious he's way too much like his father to be trusted to do what has to be done. He thinks he can fight Deathwing AND Ragnaros alone. He's going to learn a harsh lesson.
@magicman13 Personally, I think thatr Grom could've done well as Warchief if he hadn't been under the effects of Manoroth's blood. He would've be a hardliner and be out for Alliance blood like his son but perhaps it would've been tempered with experience and allow him to wait for a better time to fight the Alliance unless of course the Alliance struck first THEN Grom would've gone apeshit and waged full scale war on them.
@DarthSears We can only hope that when the new expansion comes out, thrall retakes his throne as the one and only WARCHIEF OF THE HORDE.... Hopefully theres a mini world event before the expansion that puts plans into action to take Garrosh down.....I doubt it tho.. if blizzard does remove Garrosh, It probably wont be until the expansion pack after the expansion coming up! :( We need thrall back, Horde is no longer worth defending cuz its no longer noble and has no dream except to conquer :(
@louapie and what do you say about this?? "THRALL: You will not be alone. You will have advisors: Cairne, Eitrigg, Vol'jin. They will help guide you."
@smellycathome That was actually because Orgrimmar was damaged in a fire in the book "The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm," and it was Thrall who decided to do it. But the goblins were the ones who did it, so the orcs still don't have very many resources. Org did lose A LOT of money, though, the repairs were very expensive.
@smellycathome well Garrosh lumbered down half of ashenvale during the time between wotlk and Cata so they didn't have lack of supplies when cata came out, from an lore perspective anyway, in the game it's all scaled down
it isnt garossh fault that cairne died cairne cjallenged him first and blamed him for the death of his druids if you watch the video Legacy- The fall of Cairne and the duel was with cairne rules and the weapon poison wasnt cheat it was in front of everyone and the tauren blesed cairnes weapon aswell he lost in his own plan to kil garosh the fat bastard son of a bitsch piece of shit
no no no no NO! this is the biggest mistake thrall has ever made as warchief, appinting garrosh as leader, i mean come on, garrosh doesn't even understand the meaning of discipline not to mention the fact that he's never experianced true battle, SAURFANG FOR WARCHIEF!!!! i sincerely hope that garrosh turns super bad and saurfang kills him with his mighty cleave!!!
even though Magatha poisoned Garrosh'es blade, it's still his fault for killing Cairne. Garrosh did everything to destroy the Horde, the Horde that Thrall created. Sylvanas - threatened to kill her. Vol'jin - threatened to kill him. Cairne - killed. The Horde has become bloodthirsty as it was in the time of the Corruption, for which Grom, Garrosh'es father, payed the ultimate penalty. even though i'm a horde player, this new horde - i don't like it. i don't accept Garrosh as our leader! :-S
@HijenA Alright, enough. Garrosh is a war hero. He respects Thrall and the Horde. He also accepts the Thunder Bluff messenger (You) at level 10 without saying anything bad. He tries to do the best for the Horde, and he does not respond well to massacres. Did you see what happened to Overlord Krom'gar which has destroyed an innocent druid sanctuary? For calling Sylvanas bitch, well, she deserved it. And Vol'Jin? I think he cannot accept Garrosh from the start, but from the talk with Thrall...
@XIPsychoBearIX The fact that the blade was poisioned matters little. Let us say that Garrosh would ninjakicked Cairne to death and not using Gorehowl - would Magatha still be responsible? No, since it was not Magatha who made Cairne loose his temper with Garrosh in the first place - it was Garrohs actions.
@XIPsychoBearIX Yes, but Garrosh actions _still make him resonsible for Cairnes death_. If not for Garrosh, the attack on the druids would been taken seriously, Garrosh changed the rules so that the fight would mean a fight to the death. Magatha was partly responsible as well, yes - but ultimatly, what drove Cairne to issue a challenge in a duel that Garrosh wished to be to the death was Garrosh.
@r0br33r and i garuntee you these addicted to wow fucks failed every reading class they took because they thought discussing characters as if theyre real seemed weird...
I find the differences here interesting. The Ally version sees Varian, Magni, Tyrande, Velen and Mekigneer all discussing matters. In this version Sylvannas, Cairne and Lor'themar are all missing.
@belad0nna i think the reason for this, is the mistrust with the leaders of the Horde, Slyvannas is basically 'using' the Horde for her own purposes, Cairne just did not like Garrosh i do believe, but idk whats up with the blood elf
Garrosh is a terrible leader.... 1. Murders Cairne Bloodhoof (wasnt at all but still a fudgin warchief shouldnt accept a duel to the death with another leader. 2. Calls Sylvanas a bitch. And taunts Vol'Jin to try to assasinate him knowing he will fail to tell Thrall what Vol'Jin tried to do. I really hope that Vol'Jin goes ally if he does then we have a new race and also if he fesses up secrets about horde plans he will be accepted in but not trusted. I cant wait for patch when Thrall comes back
@RaGeRDaT garrosh was challenged by cairne himself he did the killing blow unnoticed while his weapons were poisoned, the grimtotem killed cairne on purpose, garrosh didn't 2nth Sylvanas only cares about the lich king and while she is dead now she only cares more she says the horde is a tool for her to conquer the battlefield
@realkndman That doesn't change the fact that he actually accepted a duel with another leader of the horde. Thrall would have never accepted a duel to the death. Do you ever see King Varian Wynn accept a deatht to the match by the other alliance leaders? NO. Because he is respected. Thrall should have picked a fan favorite of everyone. not some douche who will just abuse his power,
@Qnorway1345Q Srry still dont care. Thrall chose a dude who is fussy cause he hasnt been laid in a while. I wonder wat Sylvanas or Vol'Jin would be like for a leader
Garrosh- I don't feel ready to lead the horde. Thrall- Cairne and Vol'jin will guide you. Garrosh-*kills Cairne* *banishes Vol'jin*. Lol Rexar for warchief!!!!
@oskarcool100 Garrosh did kill Cairne, but Cairne's death was easier for Garrosh as the blade had been poisoned, both went into the arena knowing one would walk out alive
@applegeek18 Cairne was even braver to me that day, had he won, he wouldn't have proven himself, he would have saved the Horde from a tyrant. With Garrosh dead, a new Warchief would be appointed. Cairne was probably looking out for the Horde, more so than himself. He would have been a great Warchief.
@MyidolGwen He could of been a great warchief but in reality he got killed, Garrosh since players first meeting have wen't from a depressed orc who hates his father to in wrath was the leader of the Horde army in Northrend and won. You calling Garrosh, for the most part has done nothing wrong, Garrosh is different from Thrall but in a time of war Garrosh is the right orc for the job. Can you explain why you call Garrosh a tyrant, really interested in your thoughts
@applegeek18 Anyone who defends Garrosh always states how he's fearless, he gets the job done, and he conquers many battles. While war and territory is fine and dandy, that wasn't Thrall's Horde. A brotherhood where all the misfit races can band together in peace, and each can find a home, amongst their new family. Not how many heads can you take, or far you can expand. Thrall made sure his allies were happy, and he reached out to all of them, the tauren, the Forsaken, the trolls.
@MyidolGwen I do not defend Garrosh, i would love to see Thrall return as the warchief but it seems this is not what Blizzard want to do, Garrosh and Thrall have done nothing wrong, each is different and has brought something new to the horde, yes Thrall's horde aimed for peace but there is a war and Thrall, being known among his friends as a pacifist would try to find a peaceful solution, the alliance would probs throw it back in his face, only time will tell what will happen to the horde
Garrosh, leader. His first FUCKING TWO MONTHS AS WARCHIEF AND HE KILLS A LEADER OF THE HORDE, BITCH SLAPS SYLVANAS AND MAKES BAD BLOOD WITH VOL'JIN AND THREATENS TO KILL HIM. THE FUCK!?
@wiibot15 As I was saying, Cairne was poisoned by a Grimtotem, and Garrosh was dueling against Carine, actually I take it back about a Grimtotem poisoning him, it was Magatha herself who put poison on Hellscream's axe, he didn't mean to put him to death, in fact he kinda regret it. Hellsream may be reckless and easy to anger, but he knows on what it means to fight with honor.
@wiibot15 Many of the Horde faction leaders distrusts Hellscream because of his methods that would lead to a fourth great war against the Alliance. Vol'Jin who followed the steps of Thrall's way of life for the Horde saw Garrosh as being reckless and violent. The current Tauren chieftain, Baine Bloodhoof, has a grudge against Hellscream for the death of his father. Sylvanias and Lor'themar as usual distrusts the other factions. The Blood Elves and Forsakens have their own special bond.
@wiibot15 your'e right but he didnt kill cairne on purpose, he was dueling him and the grimtotem poisned him before the duel, so garrosh just made him die faster than he should have lol
@itsme200117 We are running Massive Test to Learn Better Ways to include Gnomes in our Massive Orgy's in Stormwind so far we have Came up with nothing but by patch 4.3 we hope to have a kick ass orgy For all Races of alliance!
@Venom1246 well she is right.undead cant reproduce so she needs to replace her lost troops.she is the most badass wow character haha.i think she would be better the warchief instead of moron garrosh dont u think??
@XxXDemonhunter yeah your right about the fact that the undead can reproduce so its (as she said)their only way of ....wel reproducing. And your right about she being the most badass character :P
And also Garrosh is to obsessed with war against the alliance, even the trolls had to leave orgrimmar
She would be a good leader of the horde, i only can't imagine how the horde would be than :P
@XxXDemonhunter hahaha that would be a great thing to see indeed. But it would take a looong time before Horde and Alliance would become 1 united nation. Not only because of their differences and problems that occured in the past, but also by the fact that their will be groups that would sabotage everything so that the 2 leaders would declare war agin. But who knows, maybe there will be a 'gnome day-care' thats being runned by tauren in the future :P
@endersgame55 back in out land (where they had land b4) it was not under there will it was the blood from a pit lord magthidron or some thing and 1 is youtube spacking out my letters?
@FreedomFighter08 Yeah, the orcs had a lot of land once, back on their own planet. Then they went and blew most of that up, and for some reason they feel that entitles them to take whatever they want elsewhere. But remember, they're an "honorable" race, so that makes it okay. Somehow.
Uhm this aint parch 4.0.1 its the latest patch of wotlk
kippekop100 1 day ago
garrosh... you mother fu- *head sliced off*
theory24 2 days ago
Nice to see Sylvanas didn't turn up again lazy cow
theonetruephil 1 week ago
Ahhh the good old days when there was no gay blood elves inside that room.
wahedi87 1 week ago
is the darkish one with white hair the leader of the black rock orcs?
RAFOomph 1 week ago
Where is cairne
ThePureKenshin 1 week ago
lol at 2:05 a troll steps infront of the new ruler and hes just like "I will take over Thrall!" xD
kccaden 3 weeks ago
He's a bad leader. Thrall fucked up and he admitted he fucked up. There's no excuse.
JakeLecher 1 month ago
If you truly respect and love Thrall then trust and respect his decision! Garrosh is warchief whether we like it or not, just deal with it and hope for the best. (I play undead btw) If anyone has read the novel "Wolfheart" It shows Garrosh is quite the tactician, he assaulted a meeting between Tyrande and Varian (almost getting Tyrande killed) hell the Horde was even winning the battle until Varian, Shandris Feathermoon, and a group of Worgen stepped in.
Evision5 1 month ago
Then Thrall's model became some kinda small noble Orc,,, :l
I hope it's not their idea for new Orc models
KordanIDX 1 month ago
LOK'TAR OGAR!
MrJoeybananas11 2 months ago
I like how the blood elves and undead aren't there >.<.
Itrainharder 2 months ago
@Itrainharder or tauren
Dangover 2 months ago
wow losta point in my book when they killed cairne :(
XxvaultlegendxX 2 months ago
how come only saurfang garrosh and voljin attended the meeting?
jicaptiau00 2 months ago
@jicaptiau00 thats eitrigg not saurfang, he retired
Dangover 2 months ago
after doing the chain quests in stonetalon mountains I Respect our warchief
Dertheante 3 months ago
@Dertheante I'll admit that I gained a great deal of respect for Garrosh. He may be an obnoxious warmonger but at least he's got a code of honor so despite my complaints about him, at least there's SOME hope for him. Let's hope he can build on it.
girlgarde 3 months ago
Fake and gay
pizzakungen92 3 months ago
@pizzakungen92 Oh shut the fuck up.
Lunarvx22 3 months ago
Garrosh has no right to sit on that throne. It's perfectly obvious he's way too much like his father to be trusted to do what has to be done. He thinks he can fight Deathwing AND Ragnaros alone. He's going to learn a harsh lesson.
magicman13 3 months ago
@magicman13 your right, garrosh has no right to sit on that throne, thats why he built a new throne to sit on
terminario8000 3 months ago
@magicman13 Personally, I think thatr Grom could've done well as Warchief if he hadn't been under the effects of Manoroth's blood. He would've be a hardliner and be out for Alliance blood like his son but perhaps it would've been tempered with experience and allow him to wait for a better time to fight the Alliance unless of course the Alliance struck first THEN Grom would've gone apeshit and waged full scale war on them.
girlgarde 3 months ago
Read the Lore Read the book , garrosh is what the horde need it , and don talk shit if you dont know nothing wasnt garrosh fault the dead of Cairne .
TheLegion1349 3 months ago
"i will consult with the advisors"
1. kills cairne
2. death threat to voljin
MrQuinn010 3 months ago
Where is lady sylvannas?
redgravity66 3 months ago
What if the rest of the horde break off from orcs well maybe tauren and undead would make sence
Alexpwnsgames 4 months ago
I thought hellscream was alright but as a taren druid I hope he dies he killed craine!! WTF man
Alexpwnsgames 4 months ago
Garrosh will die if blizzard listens to fans
MrKillbox7 4 months ago
HAIL HELLSCREAM
Beefman95 4 months ago
Garrosh acted so humble in front of Thrall there, but unwittingly killed Cairne, forced Vol'jin and the Darkspear to leave the city...
Yep... Garrosh was a good choice, Go'el...
DarthSears 4 months ago
@DarthSears Even Go'el aint perfect, Go'el was the perfect and most noble leader of all WOW leaders but Go'el was naive and too trusting in Garrosh!
Deadganon 3 months ago
@Deadganon Doesn't excuse him for not choosing someone better.
"I'm gonna prove my might to these giant bull people by dueling their leader!"
"Get the hell outta my city, Trolls. Make room for the new race we'll enslave."
"(Coming soon!) I'm gonna burn down the Kul'Trias'-protected city of Theramore all because a couple miniscule camps are destroyed."
DarthSears 3 months ago
@DarthSears We can only hope that when the new expansion comes out, thrall retakes his throne as the one and only WARCHIEF OF THE HORDE.... Hopefully theres a mini world event before the expansion that puts plans into action to take Garrosh down.....I doubt it tho.. if blizzard does remove Garrosh, It probably wont be until the expansion pack after the expansion coming up! :( We need thrall back, Horde is no longer worth defending cuz its no longer noble and has no dream except to conquer :(
Deadganon 3 months ago
AND THEN GARROSH KILLED CAIRNE
GOD DAMNIT BLIZZARD
Mrcakeman34 4 months ago 38
@Mrcakeman34 Actually it was the Curse on Hellscream's Axe that killed Cairne.
Hellfire918 2 months ago
@Hellfire918 Or poison. Mostly poison.
BillzhereImeanpillz 1 month ago
@BillzhereImeanpillz If you saw the funeral for Cairne for that Children's Week event on of the Elders speak of Grim Totem Treachery.
Hellfire918 1 month ago
@Mrcakeman34
Yup, and one of the reasons I quit WoW when Cata came out. The story is going nowhere.
T7thK 1 month ago
wheres sylvanas, caine and lor'terman or whatever hes name is
terminario8000 5 months ago
Staring contest at the end, traditional for any important horde event.
zzJerryShufflezz 5 months ago
@louapie and what do you say about this?? "THRALL: You will not be alone. You will have advisors: Cairne, Eitrigg, Vol'jin. They will help guide you."
RLEEonlyreal 5 months ago
........I miss Thrall. =,(
Shirraz87 5 months ago 2
Where was Lo'themar and sylvanas? even cairne XD seemed more like thrall and all the people who hang out in his house
Iouapie 5 months ago
@Iouapie Cairne is dead and at that time he was dead. And his son Baine was down cause of his fathers dead thats why he wasnt there
racerozzy 5 months ago
@racerozzy
Oh I tought Cairne died mid patch
Iouapie 5 months ago
@Iouapie yeah i don think syvanas is a very social person after she became the banshee queen haha
Chem1kill 5 months ago
@Chem1kill
Lol
Iouapie 5 months ago
And the next thing Garrosh do is waste resources, kill Cairne and break ties with Vol'jin
ANormalGuy 5 months ago
Like Vol'jin says: For da Horde!
malakas332 6 months ago 3
so thrall says they lack supplies but first day of warcief for garrosh and he builds an expensive metal orgrimmar? how is that saving supplies? xD
smellycathome 6 months ago 55
@smellycathome That was actually because Orgrimmar was damaged in a fire in the book "The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm," and it was Thrall who decided to do it. But the goblins were the ones who did it, so the orcs still don't have very many resources. Org did lose A LOT of money, though, the repairs were very expensive.
KisiroKitsune 4 months ago
@smellycathome Not as bad as Varian building a statue to himself.
ranger1000 4 months ago
@smellycathome well Garrosh lumbered down half of ashenvale during the time between wotlk and Cata so they didn't have lack of supplies when cata came out, from an lore perspective anyway, in the game it's all scaled down
ekanomg123 4 months ago
@smellycathome hes gettin suppliers from azsharar
Lolstar66 2 months ago
@smellycathome garrosh will break the horde.. hes a young fool!
supermorbid66602 2 weeks ago
Cairne? Sylvanas? Lor'themar? The Alliance had all racial leaders + Jaina at their meeting, seems so empty here.
MrQueenie 6 months ago
most of these words are quoted exactly from the book
hoboisunited 6 months ago
it isnt garossh fault that cairne died cairne cjallenged him first and blamed him for the death of his druids if you watch the video Legacy- The fall of Cairne and the duel was with cairne rules and the weapon poison wasnt cheat it was in front of everyone and the tauren blesed cairnes weapon aswell he lost in his own plan to kil garosh the fat bastard son of a bitsch piece of shit
Manolishill 6 months ago
@Manolishill she enchanted it infront of everyone yes, but she poisoned it in secret... 2 different things
jifyum07 6 months ago
no no no no NO! this is the biggest mistake thrall has ever made as warchief, appinting garrosh as leader, i mean come on, garrosh doesn't even understand the meaning of discipline not to mention the fact that he's never experianced true battle, SAURFANG FOR WARCHIEF!!!! i sincerely hope that garrosh turns super bad and saurfang kills him with his mighty cleave!!!
brainjuice654 6 months ago
Im with the Horde, but i play as Ally just so i can kill Garrosh -.-'
Cairne was really good, why did he have to die? :\
Sylvanas is really awsome, why is he so mean with her?
His father Hellscream would never do those things, maybe he would be brutal and strict, but not a jerk...
pajokamikaze 6 months ago
where is cairne during the meeting?
beastmode4607 6 months ago
Why did he have to kill Bloodhoof?! He was awesome! Let Vol'jin be the leader!
THISISMEYOable 6 months ago
And where is Cairne?
Cooldown12 6 months ago
@Cooldown12 dead T_T
arodis12 6 months ago
@arodis12 Cairne wasn't dead before Cataclysm as I recall it.
Cooldown12 6 months ago
@Cooldown12 true i thought you were talking about now
arodis12 6 months ago
Where's the ruler of Silvermoon? Btw Garrosh is the worst Warchief ever.
Cooldown12 6 months ago
Saurfang is standing between Eitrigg and Garrosh by rhe way wardancer
MrDylan0803 6 months ago
ya ya stfu the alliance is 20 times better than the horde itsme
MrDylan0803 6 months ago
ok enough about Garrosh get off his back first day on the job world practially ends Carine challenged him and Garrosh raised the stakes
6oobs 6 months ago
can't wait till all the leaders of the horde gang up on garrosh..
logileksen 6 months ago
Your horde is splitting...
dangertuga 7 months ago
Notice that when Vol'jin gets called out by Garrosh he draws his weapon.....
Evision5 7 months ago
Best leaders of both factions - Tyrande, magnus bronzebeard (before cata) thrall
and sylvannas keeps it interesting,
varian wrnn does fuck all,
Ribenawafer 7 months ago
@Ribenawafer He gets his power from sitting on his arse.
grobo11 6 months ago
i miss the days before cata everything was good and dandy
TheF455 7 months ago
nope, not even for the horde
Blazaren 7 months ago
@Blazaren sylvanas and cairne werent even there...
wardancer400 7 months ago
@wardancer400 Oh wasnt she?
Blazaren 6 months ago
@wardancer400 Then who the fuck is standing between Eitrigg and Garrosh?
Blazaren 6 months ago
@Blazaren Oh... I didnt... I mean... Nvm, im sorry... But u do really look a lot like Sylvanas Mr Recorder...
Blazaren 6 months ago
@Blazaren a guy playing a bloodelf female character maybe? -_-
wardancer400 6 months ago
did sylvanas even say a word?
Blazaren 7 months ago
@TheOnlinePC if i remember correctly, he sat in a block of ice while we got our asses handed to us, then took the glory last second >.<
Tirion is still one of my favorite characters.
itsme200117 7 months ago
even though Magatha poisoned Garrosh'es blade, it's still his fault for killing Cairne. Garrosh did everything to destroy the Horde, the Horde that Thrall created. Sylvanas - threatened to kill her. Vol'jin - threatened to kill him. Cairne - killed. The Horde has become bloodthirsty as it was in the time of the Corruption, for which Grom, Garrosh'es father, payed the ultimate penalty. even though i'm a horde player, this new horde - i don't like it. i don't accept Garrosh as our leader! :-S
HijenA 7 months ago
@HijenA Alright, enough. Garrosh is a war hero. He respects Thrall and the Horde. He also accepts the Thunder Bluff messenger (You) at level 10 without saying anything bad. He tries to do the best for the Horde, and he does not respond well to massacres. Did you see what happened to Overlord Krom'gar which has destroyed an innocent druid sanctuary? For calling Sylvanas bitch, well, she deserved it. And Vol'Jin? I think he cannot accept Garrosh from the start, but from the talk with Thrall...
CommanderKylins 7 months ago
lame there was no voice acting
MiguelCrespo85 7 months ago
atleast alliance is safe and dont have nay drama like this
TheShishky 7 months ago
@TheShishky Alliance drama happened long ago
McBlemmen 7 months ago
@XIPsychoBearIX The fact that the blade was poisioned matters little. Let us say that Garrosh would ninjakicked Cairne to death and not using Gorehowl - would Magatha still be responsible? No, since it was not Magatha who made Cairne loose his temper with Garrosh in the first place - it was Garrohs actions.
BrommaHerman 7 months ago
@XIPsychoBearIX Yes, but Garrosh actions _still make him resonsible for Cairnes death_. If not for Garrosh, the attack on the druids would been taken seriously, Garrosh changed the rules so that the fight would mean a fight to the death. Magatha was partly responsible as well, yes - but ultimatly, what drove Cairne to issue a challenge in a duel that Garrosh wished to be to the death was Garrosh.
BrommaHerman 7 months ago
@XIPsychoBearIX Pardon me, but "never meant?". He altered the rules so the Mag´Gora would be a fight to the death!
BrommaHerman 7 months ago
Stop talking like they are real people, you freaks make me sick!
r0br33r 7 months ago
@r0br33r and i garuntee you these addicted to wow fucks failed every reading class they took because they thought discussing characters as if theyre real seemed weird...
DamageIncBHS 7 months ago
@Venom1246 eventually now with patch 4.2 I think in the next patch now that thrall returns from the maelstrom voljin will return to orgrimmar
GangstaTigerz13 8 months ago
VOLJIN WOOP HIS ASS!
jimmyjam6711 8 months ago
alliance leader didnt abandon em... nuf said
whitepower631 8 months ago
Thrall gets back after Deathwing is killed and sees what garrosh did to his Horde.
Thrall:"Garrosh!!!!"
Garrosh: /trollface
TheAnonymouslyknown 9 months ago
@TheAnonymouslyknown thrall is going to be the new earth warder... spoiled by blizz.
videogamer4life360 8 months ago
@videogamer4life360 they're nerfing the lore...
TheAnonymouslyknown 8 months ago
I find the differences here interesting. The Ally version sees Varian, Magni, Tyrande, Velen and Mekigneer all discussing matters. In this version Sylvannas, Cairne and Lor'themar are all missing.
belad0nna 10 months ago
@belad0nna i think the reason for this, is the mistrust with the leaders of the Horde, Slyvannas is basically 'using' the Horde for her own purposes, Cairne just did not like Garrosh i do believe, but idk whats up with the blood elf
ZombieRedeemer 9 months ago
@ZombieRedeemer cairne died from some poison but garrosh didnt do it
LesnarNextBigThingF5 9 months ago
@LesnarNextBigThingF5 i know, but i think this is before that
ZombieRedeemer 9 months ago
Garrosh is a terrible leader.... 1. Murders Cairne Bloodhoof (wasnt at all but still a fudgin warchief shouldnt accept a duel to the death with another leader. 2. Calls Sylvanas a bitch. And taunts Vol'Jin to try to assasinate him knowing he will fail to tell Thrall what Vol'Jin tried to do. I really hope that Vol'Jin goes ally if he does then we have a new race and also if he fesses up secrets about horde plans he will be accepted in but not trusted. I cant wait for patch when Thrall comes back
RaGeRDaT 10 months ago
@RaGeRDaT garrosh was challenged by cairne himself he did the killing blow unnoticed while his weapons were poisoned, the grimtotem killed cairne on purpose, garrosh didn't 2nth Sylvanas only cares about the lich king and while she is dead now she only cares more she says the horde is a tool for her to conquer the battlefield
realkndman 9 months ago
@realkndman That doesn't change the fact that he actually accepted a duel with another leader of the horde. Thrall would have never accepted a duel to the death. Do you ever see King Varian Wynn accept a deatht to the match by the other alliance leaders? NO. Because he is respected. Thrall should have picked a fan favorite of everyone. not some douche who will just abuse his power,
RaGeRDaT 9 months ago
@RaGeRDaT duel to death is something only orcs do.
Qnorway1345Q 8 months ago
@Qnorway1345Q Srry still dont care. Thrall chose a dude who is fussy cause he hasnt been laid in a while. I wonder wat Sylvanas or Vol'Jin would be like for a leader
RaGeRDaT 8 months ago
@RaGeRDaT Wasn't a duel to the death. Some faggots poisoned his blade.
Jake3909 8 months ago
@Jake3909 Read "The Shattering" - Garrosh changes the Mag´Goras rules to be a fight to the death.
BrommaHerman 7 months ago
Garrosh- I don't feel ready to lead the horde. Thrall- Cairne and Vol'jin will guide you. Garrosh-*kills Cairne* *banishes Vol'jin*. Lol Rexar for warchief!!!!
Heroiclink1 10 months ago
garrosh didnt kill cairne that was magretha
oskarcool100 10 months ago
@oskarcool100 yea magasa put poison on garroshs axe
lucasalzanater 10 months ago
@lucasalzanater Magatha !
applegeek18 10 months ago
@oskarcool100 Garrosh did kill Cairne, but Cairne's death was easier for Garrosh as the blade had been poisoned, both went into the arena knowing one would walk out alive
applegeek18 10 months ago
@applegeek18 Cairne was even braver to me that day, had he won, he wouldn't have proven himself, he would have saved the Horde from a tyrant. With Garrosh dead, a new Warchief would be appointed. Cairne was probably looking out for the Horde, more so than himself. He would have been a great Warchief.
MyidolGwen 10 months ago
@MyidolGwen He could of been a great warchief but in reality he got killed, Garrosh since players first meeting have wen't from a depressed orc who hates his father to in wrath was the leader of the Horde army in Northrend and won. You calling Garrosh, for the most part has done nothing wrong, Garrosh is different from Thrall but in a time of war Garrosh is the right orc for the job. Can you explain why you call Garrosh a tyrant, really interested in your thoughts
applegeek18 10 months ago
@applegeek18 Anyone who defends Garrosh always states how he's fearless, he gets the job done, and he conquers many battles. While war and territory is fine and dandy, that wasn't Thrall's Horde. A brotherhood where all the misfit races can band together in peace, and each can find a home, amongst their new family. Not how many heads can you take, or far you can expand. Thrall made sure his allies were happy, and he reached out to all of them, the tauren, the Forsaken, the trolls.
MyidolGwen 10 months ago
@MyidolGwen I do not defend Garrosh, i would love to see Thrall return as the warchief but it seems this is not what Blizzard want to do, Garrosh and Thrall have done nothing wrong, each is different and has brought something new to the horde, yes Thrall's horde aimed for peace but there is a war and Thrall, being known among his friends as a pacifist would try to find a peaceful solution, the alliance would probs throw it back in his face, only time will tell what will happen to the horde
applegeek18 10 months ago
@MyidolGwen Garrosh destroyed that bond that made all the races of the Horde come together.
MyidolGwen 10 months ago
who's the dk milkstake at 1:14? just asking...
rokasltu25 10 months ago
Garrosh, leader. His first FUCKING TWO MONTHS AS WARCHIEF AND HE KILLS A LEADER OF THE HORDE, BITCH SLAPS SYLVANAS AND MAKES BAD BLOOD WITH VOL'JIN AND THREATENS TO KILL HIM. THE FUCK!?
wiibot15 10 months ago 44
@wiibot15 Herp-Derp?
wowmaniacfuler 10 months ago
@wiibot15 As I was saying, Cairne was poisoned by a Grimtotem, and Garrosh was dueling against Carine, actually I take it back about a Grimtotem poisoning him, it was Magatha herself who put poison on Hellscream's axe, he didn't mean to put him to death, in fact he kinda regret it. Hellsream may be reckless and easy to anger, but he knows on what it means to fight with honor.
StrawberryIchigo121 10 months ago
@wiibot15 Many of the Horde faction leaders distrusts Hellscream because of his methods that would lead to a fourth great war against the Alliance. Vol'Jin who followed the steps of Thrall's way of life for the Horde saw Garrosh as being reckless and violent. The current Tauren chieftain, Baine Bloodhoof, has a grudge against Hellscream for the death of his father. Sylvanias and Lor'themar as usual distrusts the other factions. The Blood Elves and Forsakens have their own special bond.
StrawberryIchigo121 10 months ago
@wiibot15 Vol'jin is too badass to die
LesnarNextBigThingF5 9 months ago
@wiibot15 Thrall's gonna be so pissed at Garrosh when he comes back.lol
OOMedmypants 8 months ago
@wiibot15 AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH HIS TINY HEAD?!
BendikBS 7 months ago
@wiibot15 Poor Cairne =( I loved clicking on him back in Wrath and laugh at he says. Sad face =(
CommanderKylins 7 months ago
@wiibot15 I feel bad for them all :/ sylvanas doesnt deserve that, pisses voljin off, and kills Cairne... its like wow :/
RaiRoiMusouKaraoke 7 months ago
@wiibot15 He's in bed with the blood elfs , still
RebirthWoWGuild 6 months ago
@wiibot15 garrosh is a fucking prick if his dad was alive he would kick garroshes ass for all this
clonetrooper661 6 months ago
@wiibot15 your'e right but he didnt kill cairne on purpose, he was dueling him and the grimtotem poisned him before the duel, so garrosh just made him die faster than he should have lol
tjhtbhdcr 6 months ago
i bet that blood elf chick whispered to Garrosh 'Hey wanna have sex after bein sworne as chieftane?' lol jks :P
SSSNero 11 months ago
Funny thing here cause it says that Cairne will help Garrosh.
Oh I'm sorry Thrall cause I think as soon as you leave guess what.
YOUR FUCKING WARCHIEF KILLED HIM!!
GrafitiWall 11 months ago
only Thrall is enough of a badass to save the world. what r the alliance doing?
itsme200117 11 months ago 31
@itsme200117 *Cough' STORMRAGE *cough*
RileyRivalle2 10 months ago
@itsme200117 fail. Quest in Vash' jir and do the quests with Nobundo.
OOMedmypants 8 months ago
@itsme200117 We are running Massive Test to Learn Better Ways to include Gnomes in our Massive Orgy's in Stormwind so far we have Came up with nothing but by patch 4.3 we hope to have a kick ass orgy For all Races of alliance!
Shadewolf05 7 months ago
@itsme200117 Well, they arrested Hogger.
BendikBS 7 months ago 15
@BendikBS Haha, that's classic :D
ParisAvenue2005 7 months ago
@itsme200117 Malfurion Stormrage?
grobo11 6 months ago
@itsme200117 they suck :P
iok21a 6 months ago
@itsme200117 Malfurion is doing just as much as Thrall.
MexiExcellent 6 months ago
@itsme200117 Lol, Alliance saved the world in WotLK, blizz thought they'd need to give the hordies a chance to stop looking like noobs. ^^
calum341 6 months ago
@calum341 well in all fairness the alliance were the ones who MADE the lich king soooo yeah.
theseveredtoe 6 months ago
@theseveredtoe Actually, if the stupid orc Ner'Zhul had more willpower, and hadn't been corrupted, never woulda happened. ;P
calum341 6 months ago
@theseveredtoe kil'jaeden made the lich king dumb ass... arthas became the lich king later but the alliance had nothing to do with it
jifyum07 6 months ago
The Horde and the Alliance would never merge due to gameplay purposes. It would take away ALOT of PVP.
Merlijn83 11 months ago
How can you ressist not screaming 'For the Horde!' bein' there? D=
Zatiels 11 months ago
man were is the champion of the horde rexxar
tuvaluboi 11 months ago
WTF that dumbass troll bitch ruined it
Volton75 1 year ago
no garrosh its tow nerf guy...he we see that and to the trailer of ulduar in violet hold
wowistas1997 1 year ago
garrosh is very a shit
alexdu97440 1 year ago
Good video u diditn miss a word!
Justsayingmythoughts 1 year ago
1:55 'I feel honoured, Warchief. But I feel unprepared for the life of a ruler'
no shit >.<, I don't think he's just as hopeless as Sylvanas but he sure knows how to give the horde a rough time
Venom1246 1 year ago
@Venom1246 elaborate
airsoftlove1 1 year ago
@Venom1246 hes stupid.garrosh is pushing away all the thrall's allies.(vol'jin,bloodhoof,sylvanas).but why u say that sylvanas is hopeless?????
XxXDemonhunter 1 year ago
@XxXDemonhunter cause sylvanas does (as far as I know) only whats she whants.
A good example is in the worgen starting zone, where she ignores garrosh and continue using the plague,
also as using the Vrykul for ressurection of dead people...but that doesnt make her hopeless, i guess, only difficult to handle
Venom1246 1 year ago
@Venom1246 well she is right.undead cant reproduce so she needs to replace her lost troops.she is the most badass wow character haha.i think she would be better the warchief instead of moron garrosh dont u think??
XxXDemonhunter 11 months ago
@XxXDemonhunter yeah your right about the fact that the undead can reproduce so its (as she said)their only way of ....wel reproducing. And your right about she being the most badass character :P
And also Garrosh is to obsessed with war against the alliance, even the trolls had to leave orgrimmar
She would be a good leader of the horde, i only can't imagine how the horde would be than :P
Venom1246 11 months ago
@Venom1246 well i think a better place.maybe even alliance and horde will become .......... well...friends and fight against common enemies.
just imagine a tauren taking care of an orphan gnome kid hahahahaha
XxXDemonhunter 11 months ago
@XxXDemonhunter hahaha that would be a great thing to see indeed. But it would take a looong time before Horde and Alliance would become 1 united nation. Not only because of their differences and problems that occured in the past, but also by the fact that their will be groups that would sabotage everything so that the 2 leaders would declare war agin. But who knows, maybe there will be a 'gnome day-care' thats being runned by tauren in the future :P
Venom1246 11 months ago
@endersgame55 back in out land (where they had land b4) it was not under there will it was the blood from a pit lord magthidron or some thing and 1 is youtube spacking out my letters?
demonkidz1 1 year ago
Garrosh is such a liar in this scene
donovan3955 1 year ago
Is it just me or is Vol'jin really bigger than Garrosh?
TrollingForSure 1 year ago
The funny thing is Thrall said " I can hear our land, Azeroth, cry out in pain"
In fact it is not his land since the alliance was long before the horde in azeroth
FreedomFighter08 1 year ago
@FreedomFighter08 Yeah, the orcs had a lot of land once, back on their own planet. Then they went and blew most of that up, and for some reason they feel that entitles them to take whatever they want elsewhere. But remember, they're an "honorable" race, so that makes it okay. Somehow.
endersgame55 1 year ago