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  • I'm at Clemson. Do they teach kenjitsu with the wooden sword at the class or is it all this padded stuff?

  • No offence, but is not Kenjutsu,or anything like Samurai Martial Arts. Sport Kenjutsu? . Just say, hitting each other with foam sticks. Sure its fun, I get that, but, to learn Kenjutsu is to try and carry on a tradtion. Its a responsability.This is not that. Its a farce.Please, call it something else, but dont try to tie yourself to nearly a thousand years of Samurai heritage.

  • In Japan, this is called Sports Chanbara (Spochan for short) & is part of the Zen Ninhon Goshindo Remnei. Tananbe Tetsundo sensei, a student of the late Nakamura Taizaburo sensei, is the kaicho & the hombu is located in Yokohama, Japan. Spochan has many, many participants in over 20 countries & is taught through the Japanese Department of Recreation.

    This particular class is a Leisure Skills course at Clemson University designed to be a fun activity for college students...

  • ...The students learn a little about combatives, sweat a little & make friends. You are right that this is not classical bujutsu, but that is not the course's intention nor something that can be covered in a 3 month course.

    Goshindo's other aspects such as battodo & tameshigiri are also part of the instruction but for advanced students. With these students, sparring is done with bogu & hatswari. I also teach Kum Do (Korean Kendo) through the World Kum Do Association...

  • With all the many different styles that have ever existed, both Koryu & Gendai, it is obvious that Budo does not just have one expression. The different system's curriculums & traditions may vary; however, they all encourage rei (respect) above all.

    I wish well in your endeavors.

  • BTW, if you feel that this is still a farce or that I am falsely speaking, I encourage you to view the Youtube clip "The Way : GO SHIN DO". This is short interview of Tabuchi Kosen sensei. He is a senior All Japan Goshindo Federation instructor in Japan & a wealth of knowledge concerning Japanese Sword Arts.

    I hope you will enjoy it.

  • @JacobEliRossSC

    While I do agree about martial arts being serious, please do note the use of 'Sport'. As such, this is more of a sport-based activity than a actual martial art

    And furthermore, what we see here is a mere section of what they do, and it is quite harsh to judge based on this alone.

  • Furthermore, what I see is that they are practising actual sword techniques and not just blindly swinging. If they were just hitting each other with foam swords, we should be seeing a lot of 'blindly-rushing-in-and-whacki­ng', which is evidently not the case here.

  • God, yet another useless martial art, Where the opposition has to:

    1. Agree to fight in the same style.

    2. Has to be in the correct form for you to attack.

    Pretty useless in a real fight.

  • Sport Kenjitsu is just that...a sport. It is physical pursuit which fosters a healthy body, mind & good sportsmanship.

    Although many swords art's techniques are lethal, self refinement is what is stressed, not the ending of another's life. Most practitioners of the sword do not study it for self defense purposes. If learning to win a "real" fight is what you want to pursue, martial arts may not be for you.

  • I do not study set martial arts. I spend time thinking of moves, which can be used in most all situations, To quickly and effectivly take down the opponent. Basicly i have a library of my own moves. Some martial arts are there for actual self defence, such as escrima. But as for real sword fighting, Its about well timed reactions, Stringing together moves effectivly, and making up methods of attack as the duel commences.

  • Playing devils advocate, if you have no formal training, how do you know which moves are effective? I assume you haven't fought many live blade battles, so how are you verifying your ideas of what is useful? To truly understand a subject, regardless of what it is, a long & in depth study is needed.

    Please feel free to pursue whatever endeavor you wish but also be slow to chastise another person when you yourself are following a path that is questionable to others with long years of training.

  • Sorry if i offended you, I realise now what i said was a bit harsh.

    Anyway, Me and my closest friend have duels using bokkens, To test for move effectiveness. Those which are non-effective are of course forgotten very quickly.

  • @scratchyrice You have a library of your own moves? That's stupid. You idiot. Learn a real martial art.

  • looks like fun

  • Thanks, it certainly is!

  • Interesting enough, but what is the purpose of this activity. Its obvious that it is a pseudo sword art. But if this is the case who trained the teacher in this art? Where does the curriculum begin and end.

  • My instructor is Dana Abbott shihan. His instructor is the kaicho of the All Japan Goshindo Federation Tanabe Tetsundo sensei, His instructor was the kaicho of Nakamura ryu battodo, the late Nakamura Taizaburo sensei.

    The curriculum begins but never ends, its all about continual training. If you want to spar with hatsuwari & bogu instead of the padded weapons, I can accomodate you. If you like to practice Toyama/Nakamura battodo & shizan, we can do that also...

  • If you rather train in traditional Kum Do (Korean Kendo), I also offer that.

    There are many arts & methods related to learning the sword & all have their pros & cons. Spochan is a very sport-like aspect, where as battodo is more tradtional. One isn't necessarily better than the other, it all depends on what the student is looking for.

    The purpose of any budo, regardless if it koryu or gendai, is the betterment of the practioner.

  • Looks like you guys were having alot of fun.

  • One of the reasons why Sports Chanbara was created was to offer a fun activity available to all, regardless of status, gender, physical ability or age. Most practitioners have a great time, make many friends & get rid of pent up stress.

    If you ever get the opportunity to train in "Spochan", I think you will have a great time.

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