★ World of Warcraft - Patch 4.1 Analysis! (Part 2) - TGN

[jgpolite]

what?

[zombiejedininja]

I think it would be so cool if you made a podcast with these vids. I normally listen to the show with the screen off as i do homework so getting a Chanel on iTunes would be cool and you would be able to reach out to more people who want to here this.

[Crimefridge]

You want to improve your show? Make your "analysis" on PvP on a seperate video so the hardcore PvPers don't have to listen to PvE junk to get there.

[zeflate]

@Crimefridge no offence but hardcore pvp:ers dont visit tgn.tv

[LimitLessGamers]

@zeflate Oh,but we do. No offence...

[zeflate]

@LimitLessGamers xd you seem like hardcore minecrafter xd glhf with digging holes.

[zeflate]

@LimitLessGamers im just kidding you might be a very good pvp:er im not denying that. when i made that comment i was just a little pissed about crimefridges additude about PVE and PVP thats all

[LimitLessGamers]

@zeflate Np:)

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[DonChancho13]

DeadlySlob ist HOT!!!

[Verseification]

red tint on frost trap? whats the point??? it wont be set off...

[tibetansoul1]

haha very cool guys, hey u guys have any info abt the new iphone/android app update? seems like u can now chat with the guild thru your phone/ipod.anything?

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[MrToastyTank]

are they ever going to make BOA things tradeable thru out all of ur account (Different realms,Horde to Alli)

[AdiF50Ronaldo7]

I think it would be cool if you guys mentioned the current states of all the classes and explain how playstyles or preferences may change, because I often have trouble adjusting to classes and I like to know how classes work.

[PapaD93]

I feel that they are making the game ezer every patch and to be honest i dont like it. lol It gets less challenges every patch.

[PapaD93]

What ever happened to the whole dungeon loots? Like they said they would add a thing where u can see the bosses on the map and see what loots they have and a short description about what they do.

[PapaD93]

I could use more fishing dailies, only profession i dont have maxed out and doing one stormwind daily with 1 skill point is just taking to long lol

[robles639]

Great job guys! Informative without talking above semi-noobs like myself!

[EsteIstBeste0]

woah.. just thought about something. If honor is being doubled and you can trade it into Justice Points.. getting full PvE blue sets is going to be extremely easy. Also Deadly should defo make some PvP videos if he's really into it

[EsteIstBeste0]

=/ that's shit, now there's no hiding in pvp =/ that was one of the great things about being able to go up on a specific ledge or behind something.

[S67621]

7 Heroics for 70 Valor Points whenever is cool, but with this new conversion from conquest to Valor kind of makes that obsolete, no?

[OVER9000NUKES]

well double da honor is nice, but it depends, will the rewards double da price? pvp gear is hard to get , and my freind is collecting and having a rough time, i gota tell her this.

[chek2002]

More towelliee and add in the amnesia chick.

[du4tube]

rogue isent getting buffed, they are actualy getttin nurfed with recoup (imp recoup 0.5-1) and cheat death. rogue will still be good tho. mages and warlocks are getting buffed and warriors getting nerfed, that is a direct buff to rogue comps (partners) in 3s.

[Whosthetank]

When are new tiers going to be implemented? Is Tier 12 coming out in 4.1?

[applegeek18]

@Whosthetank no

[Araaxj]

Guys here is a question for you, do you think that for the 7 randoms give valor points, what if you dont want to waste that oppartunity?

Do you think they should give you the ability to choose between Valor and Justice?

So if you choose Justice it wont waste your chance of doing 7 in a row, for example if you want to do only 2 a day and then do normal randoms for justice points you can do that by choosing it in the option tab, Random Heroic (Justice) or Random Heroic(Valor)

[TwiSStaHh]

With the double honor thing, I actually like it because I really enjoy PvP but I never really get much time to play so i am always undergeared I love this shit :P

[CoolDeath2121]

What do you guys think about ZA and ZG heroics giving valor points?

[remorod88313]

archy is so boring

[biron937]

what about the cost of boa gear, 2175 justice points per pc, 3175 for weapons and same for honor peaces is a rip off is that price gonna drop at all?

[ColonizingTheSun]

Dutch and Danish are both Germanic languages so it's not far fetched to assume zabers accent was Dutch just sayin

[doom1432]

What is a good class that I won't get bored of? I have a 85 lock and paladin..both boring

[MrHandro13]

@doom1432 mages and druids

[CrazyMetalKidd]

virgins



[Jadzena]

Great vid guys, I cant believe Zaber you stoped PvE with only 2 bosses to go!!!! that's crazy...couldn't u stop PvP for a bit as that seems easier to come back to? I have a question about guilds...I seem to find all the 'casual' guilds that want to chat but doing instances no. ..how did you guys find yours?

[kingateam2]

i read it recently and the patch notes said you cant fly in ghostlands, they had it crossed out

[MrWadlo]

[Elementium Earthguard] > "Extinct Turtle Shell", though it is preference of hit vs dodge. The Earthguard was really easy to make, so I don't see why anyone would endure the headache of archeology farming for the Turtle Shell. If a DPS really liked to arch and randomly got the shield, it might be a good reason to try tanking -- I'm assuming this is what blizz was thinking. I'm hoping they tweak some stats. Visually, it doesn't look like a level 85 shield... yet?

[Whazup4444]

Danskerer ftw!

[Kwak3r]

so i just spent a couple months grinding out honor to full gear myself.. wow.. just wow..

[beaverfeaver12]

double the honor = double the geared lvl 85's lol

[WoWHero345]

Well, with all honesty, I love the fact that they are doubling honor. I've been a hardcore PvPer since day one of World of Warcraft. I have ALWAYS loved PvP. On my 85 DK, I'm a PvPer, and even on my alts, I am. It's great. With the increase in amount of honor, it'll make things much easier. RIght now, it takes a lot of BG's to get full gear at 85. It's annoying, so honestly, I love it! LOVE YOU GUYS!

[ImStereotype]

Deadlyslob you sounded great speaking during this video, and had good information. I couldn't make out the name the other host gave my apologies, I would suggest turning your mic up a tad and speaking just a bit slower or more punctual. I could make out most of what you said but my g/f laughed at me being able to understand you. Other than that you guys have a nice series starting here and I'll be sure to thumbs to the up!

[akamadmaxx]

Much better with the camera this time deadly.

[DeadlySlob]

@akamadmaxx Same camera, different angle

[20graffiti08]

i think they should defo double the honor u get as it will help the people out that carnt play the game as much as other. :)

[awesumsause]

@20graffiti08 no



[summertheelf]

love the vid, very informative :D keep up the vids comming both of you. GRATS!!! i'm just a casual player myself so i find these topics very useful and convinient.

[MrBabytard]

its alright, should be done

[sababag1]

what classes do you guys play and do you guys have some outpot about thet class in PVP (Macro's keybind and tactics against other classes)?

[Hobomo85]

doubble da honor is good cus people that are actualy good do arena and the blue gear isnt that good for arena jsut gets you started for arena.imo

[Hobomo85]

what about d&d 11:30

[koda101ninja]

they need 85 legendarys for all classes imo

[tweek3245]

I heard on another "WOW new program" that they are not adding flying into those areas because the areas are instanced and pepole would be able to "fly off the edge of the world" and it would take too much to redo the zones for flying. Might have to look into that some more to find which is correct . . .

[AvalianDK]

Now, just a question for the next show. When will they bring out the Epic gems? Are they actually coming in 4.1 or will they wait till the next tier of raiding???? Thanks guys, keep up the great work!!!!

[AvalianDK]

OK, loved the video. First i wanna talk about the Aura(redtints) for enemy player AoE, any good or even just decent player knows to stay out of "STUFF" anyways. Some times you just get caught in it but come on people. Do we really need it. Second, Double honor, really, wtf.....giving away gear again....welcome back to Wrath. Last, all the increases in Frost Mage power, that is going to be refckindiculous, that is one class that needs nothing more than what they have.

[staven512]

[Thunderfury] needs an 85 version.

[SniiperAssassin]

when is the 4.1.0 patch coming out?

[Zabermoul]

@SniiperAssassin

16:28

[DeadlySlob]

25:50 for a blooper

[case1118]

i think the one on the right was nutting on himself

[DeadlySlob]

Zaber's Volume issue was actually a problem on my end! So don't hate on him for my issue

[CookieMonster0278]

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[pufzful]

Have u guys noticed that the right guy looks like Eddie Cahill from CSI:NY?

[orzhageN]

Why don't you upload this at the tgnWorldofWarcraft channel?

[TwiSStaHh]

I am pretty happy to hear that the honour will get doubled, it will give players who play PvE and new players a better chance to get into PvP, they can also get bettter gear, this is great to hear. I personally love the changes

[KingFreakAce]

u can't fly in ghostlands no more they removed it again 

[jiubreyn]

Love that all of the directors are getting air time. /thumbs up

Just a comment about the directors appearing to be MIA due to the spaced out content. I think it's easy for subscribers to forget (or may not even realize) that TGN does more than just WoW and a lot of the directors have their hands in multiple projects, not just WoW.

Keep on rockin'!

[jiubreyn]

@jiubreyn Ugh, proofread fail.

[applegeek18]

Frost Mage is getting a buff !, sorry PvP'rs but this is a much needed boost to Frost DPS in PvE, i just wish made a system that somehow increased damage by e.g. Frostbolt agains NPC's by xxx amount and decrease damage against Playable Characters by xxx amount instead of all the nerfs and buffs that annoy everyone when they are enjoying the spec they like, Firelands Delayed, not a huge problem as i have no interest in raiding it but i understand why people are annoyed

[VertsMedia]

@applegeek18 They should have it buffed for pve only.

Warriors are getting CS nerf'd in pvp but not pve

[applegeek18]

@VertsMedia I don't PVP, i just want frost to be a viable raiding spec for once and not get beat down because i am playing a PVP spec

[TwiSStaHh]

@applegeek18 I'm a PvPer and i enjoy getting into a few raids but I don't like that all the mages are arcane and fire, we need some frost to speed up the kills a bit and slow down the elites...

I am pretty happy so far with these changes :)

[tranceaction82]

patch 4.1.. sigh blizzard are trying to *bip* the game more then ever.. frost mages getting buffed why? retri paladins cant survive anymore with cd on wog...

[jhoxha]

@tranceaction82 i agree with you on mages but for ret ... well again pvp is affecting pve (also makes prot tanking more "balanced") and honestly i believe it was needed.

[tranceaction82]

@jhoxha but how are retries gonna survive now? even though we got burst damage etc.. the word of glory could keep us up with others. now? i dont think so.. and with a 60cd on bubble its gonna be the class everyone flee from

[jhoxha]

@tranceaction82 keep up with who? as of now rets have crazy burst and are excellent at offhealing (in pvp i mean). ferals can heal, shamans too but lets say a feral healing his teammate is a feral that is not doing dmg.whereas with wog its instant, u cast it and then ur back on doing dmg. with the cd u really need to think carefully when u use it. Although since 4.1 should come out soon we will see

[tranceaction82]

@jhoxha that in this patch retries can keep up with the rest of the classes, though with "insane" burst damage i dont know anyone who would play as good with a cd on wog, besides the shield also got a cd 60sec instead of 30, so survivability is going way down

[toldtrueguy]

theCKproject is really hard to pronounce... XD

[tgnIdol]

Great stuff guys amazing!

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[pokemon666leon]

Zabermoul can you please make your mic volume higher as its not as easy to hear you.

[Zabermoul]

@pokemon666leon

We had a few issues with basicaly all our audio tracks on this one. Unfortunatly we only figured all this out when Deadly had started editing it all. Next time this wont be an issue and thats a promiss ;)

[pokemon666leon]

@Zabermoul okay thanks for the reply :)

[Zabermoul]

@pokemon666leon

Anytime ;) We want to provide the best content for all you guys and personaly i like replying on comments and getting involved with the TGN.TV community :D

[pokemon666leon]

@Zabermoul well your doing a very good job i would like to thank you and all the tgn directors for taking the time to make vids for us.

[MrMrfail101]

Honestly recup isnt getting a buff it's basically the same except its not 2% in improved its only 1% but recup its self got buffed 1% so its basically the same thing as last patch

[jhoxha]

@MrMrfail101 I totally agree with you man, for pvp its not going to matter at all. Its main point is making recup more viable to use in pve. Up until now recup is like a waste of combo points plus it takes so much time to get heals from it (every 3s) that it doesnt matter for raid mechanics. An interesting thing is how it is going to affect sub pve (in some fights like heroic valiona and theralion and nef sub is viable because of mobility and aoe dmg reduction)! Personally i like it

[MrMrfail101]

@jhoxha mhm you're right. the buff will be nice for PVE give it a little more useage bring it up there with some other classes self heals. Hopefully the buff will be noticeable :)

[iBLITZzz]

This is definitely a buyyyyy