Ooh, eerie. The gray car at 2:14 looks just like the car my mom had. And we moved to the trailer park that got obliterated about 5 years after this tornado. That hits too close to home!
If the Andover, KS had passed through a large, dense American city, it would have caused a 1/4rd to 1/2-mile wide path of EF3 and EF4 damage, with patches of EF5 damage. EF5 damage can produce "significant structural deformation" of high-rise (21+ story) buildings and "permanent structural deformation" of mid-rise (5-20 story) buildings. Please refer to the EF-scale document for full details.
I was wondering, what would happen if a tornado of this magnitude hit a large built-up area such as Manhattan or central L.A.? Would the buildings survive?
The Fujita (now the Enhanced Fujita) scale rates tornadoes by the damage they leave behind. If nothing is hit, the tornado cannot be assigned a rating even though they are typically rated F0 (now EF0) in such cases.
@toe2toecory Width has no bearing on the level of destruction in a single area. The width of an EF5 can vary. There have been recent mile wide wedge tornados that that been rated EF3.
@DNWGretsch182 Incorrect. Even though the Enhanced Fujita Scale uses wind speed as a classification system, it relies on damage done to make that determination.
This is why the 99 Mulhall, OK tornado was given a rating of F4 even though it was just as intense as the F5 that landed in Moore.
The EF scale, and TORRO scale, still operate on the same principal because we can't, yet, get direct measurement of wind speeds on most tornadoes.
Both Moore and Andover were similar in terms of devastation. It's hard to distinguish one F5 tornado from another. In reality, they both were pretty nasty. The only reason Moore sustained more deaths was that the tornado hit a more densely populated area. The Andover tornado scraped the southern suburbs of Wichita. Moore also sustained more damage thus the higher damage totals. Also, note inflation differences between 1991 and 1999.
Both tornadoes leveled and swept away well-built brick homes down to their concrete foundations. This is one of the defining characteristics of F5 tornado damage. Thus, I cannot say one was stronger than the other. The Bridgecreek/Moore, OK tornado (May 3, 1999) produced the strongest winds ever recorded on planet earth, but who is to say another tornado hasn't produced stronger winds. There just wasn't a Doppler weather radar on a flat-bed truck to measure those tornadoes.
I never surveyed the Jarrell, Texas tornado damage, so I cannot compare. However, both tornadoes were rated F-5 which reads:
"Incredible damage. Strong frame houses leveled off foundations and swept away; automobile-sized missiles fly through the air in excess of 100 meters (109 yds); trees debarked; incredible phenomena will occur."
They'd be the same in those terms since F5 damage is pretty much the same in each case; homes are leveled and swept away. But the Moore tornado did such damage in greater quantities
I saw a bit of video of a policeman trying to warn residents of the Golden Spur and there was some man just walking his dog like nothing was wrong. I always wonder if he made it. Did you also study the Red Rock Tornado of the same day?
Yes, I shot video of the Red Rock, OK tornado damage where it crossed I-35. A farmhouse sustained F4 damage and mile marker 200 was bent over. We interviewed the man who lived at the farm house and escaped the tornado path in his pickup truck. I've never published this video clip video.
Thanks for posting this. Just wondering if you have any more video from the 27th. One of my big brothers and my brother-in-law spent most of the day out there looking for my mom. But my sister and I found her instead, in the mourge. My step dad was found in the mourge on the 26th. Because he had his wallet on him, they contacted his family that night. They didn't just loose the things they owned, they lost their lives. There is still a big hole in our family that use to be occupied by them.
I'm very saddened to read of your loss from that day. I have another hour or two of raw video from our survey of the Andover, Kansas F5 tornado damage. It was a very sobering experience for a young meteorologist, fresh out of college.
My meteorologist friends and I can learn a lot by forecasting, chasing, surveying, and studying tornado outbreaks like this. The end result are improved forecasts, warnings and safety advice.
there was a girl named emily ive argued alot with my father and oine day my dad came home pissed because he lost his job and he stabbed me in the neck then threw me in a well now im trying to haunt him but i cant find him so im hoping u can help me find him post this onto 10 videos or ill be waiting at the edge of your bed waiting until u go to sleep...a kid thought this was dumb but the next day his parents found there son dead in the bathtub with the neck slit open drowned..
I lived in Andover during this time and lost everything I ever worked for. I was 20 years old and had my first child. It was the worst of the worst in my life. 6 years later, I lost another home in Kansas, from a Tornado. Life has moved on and yet, I have never ever seen a real tornado.
I just don't know how to call this kind of destruction. The "finger of God" is such a terrible thing. It sounds silly but I fell in love with this "monsters" when I was a little boy, I'm so sorry for the families of the victims...my prayers are with them...
Sad... i live in this town right now weve completely rebulied the big cathlic chruch that was being built when this happened has all the pictures and the torndo pic and 2 items from the church... Sad once again 18 people died luckly i wasnt born yet..
that was a sad day it is sad that people died you have to support each other to get through things like this you have to have faith in order to rebuild and move on. I am sure the town does not look like this today
No it doesn't i live in it right now and i is just liek an ordinary town and we have 5* schools and every Friday we have tornado drills. A lot more housing departures have been built if my area was built back then we would of have been demolished
Holy shit, if my house was there I would get down on the ground and scream at myself until i died lol
kpg2471 6 months ago
Ooh, eerie. The gray car at 2:14 looks just like the car my mom had. And we moved to the trailer park that got obliterated about 5 years after this tornado. That hits too close to home!
iamsaztak 7 months ago
This was plastic waving in the wind, *not* the legs of a dead woman ;-)
RobertPrentice 8 months ago
6sec n in the left top of tree, are those legs from a dead woman? Looks like RIP
Lizaria 8 months ago
Notice, the city's name is AND-OVER.......
u12kno 10 months ago
Notice, the city's name is AND-OVER.......
u12kno 10 months ago
Strange how that styrofoam cup remained standing.
bradwatson7324 10 months ago
I noticed Old Glory was still waving in the wind....
horshooer 10 months ago
I feel scared now and feel so sorry for them
ChinchillaTricks 11 months ago
The damage reminds me of the nuclear aftermath from The Day After.
100sundancepass 11 months ago
If the Andover, KS had passed through a large, dense American city, it would have caused a 1/4rd to 1/2-mile wide path of EF3 and EF4 damage, with patches of EF5 damage. EF5 damage can produce "significant structural deformation" of high-rise (21+ story) buildings and "permanent structural deformation" of mid-rise (5-20 story) buildings. Please refer to the EF-scale document for full details.
RobertPrentice 1 year ago
I was wondering, what would happen if a tornado of this magnitude hit a large built-up area such as Manhattan or central L.A.? Would the buildings survive?
TheInformalstyle 1 year ago
that would still be an EF5 even with the new enhanced fujita scale, there isnt one standing building...some crazy shitt
NoTheStars 1 year ago
How could you measure a tornado as an f0-f5 if it landed in a field but did not damage any structures?
TheMightykaz 1 year ago
@TheMightykaz
The Fujita (now the Enhanced Fujita) scale rates tornadoes by the damage they leave behind. If nothing is hit, the tornado cannot be assigned a rating even though they are typically rated F0 (now EF0) in such cases.
RobertPrentice 1 year ago
@RobertPrentice And The Width of the Tornado right?
toe2toecory 1 year ago
@toe2toecory Width has no bearing on the level of destruction in a single area. The width of an EF5 can vary. There have been recent mile wide wedge tornados that that been rated EF3.
GOODY61 1 year ago
@TheMightykaz the tornado wouldnt get measusred if it didnt do damage it would have to do damage for it to measured on the enhanced fajita scale.
renebcampos 10 months ago
@TheMightykaz the scale is not measure by damage intake, but by wind speed.
DNWGretsch182 10 months ago
@DNWGretsch182 Incorrect. Even though the Enhanced Fujita Scale uses wind speed as a classification system, it relies on damage done to make that determination.
This is why the 99 Mulhall, OK tornado was given a rating of F4 even though it was just as intense as the F5 that landed in Moore.
The EF scale, and TORRO scale, still operate on the same principal because we can't, yet, get direct measurement of wind speeds on most tornadoes.
Landrar 2 months ago
damn thats all i can think to say is damn....my condolences of course to those who lost loved ones in that storm
iluvamedic 1 year ago
Both Moore and Andover were similar in terms of devastation. It's hard to distinguish one F5 tornado from another. In reality, they both were pretty nasty. The only reason Moore sustained more deaths was that the tornado hit a more densely populated area. The Andover tornado scraped the southern suburbs of Wichita. Moore also sustained more damage thus the higher damage totals. Also, note inflation differences between 1991 and 1999.
broncoj20 2 years ago
i never seen an f5 tornado that was a mile wide!(omg)=)
jayjay882 2 years ago
In your opinion what damage was worse, Andover or Bridge Creek/Moore? Close call but you were there...
corepuncher 2 years ago
Both tornadoes leveled and swept away well-built brick homes down to their concrete foundations. This is one of the defining characteristics of F5 tornado damage. Thus, I cannot say one was stronger than the other. The Bridgecreek/Moore, OK tornado (May 3, 1999) produced the strongest winds ever recorded on planet earth, but who is to say another tornado hasn't produced stronger winds. There just wasn't a Doppler weather radar on a flat-bed truck to measure those tornadoes.
RobertPrentice 2 years ago
@RobertPrentice How would you rate Jarrell Texas tornado? That was the worst damage I have ever seen as far as nothing being left. Not even debris.
TheMightykaz 1 year ago
@TheMightykaz
I never surveyed the Jarrell, Texas tornado damage, so I cannot compare. However, both tornadoes were rated F-5 which reads:
"Incredible damage. Strong frame houses leveled off foundations and swept away; automobile-sized missiles fly through the air in excess of 100 meters (109 yds); trees debarked; incredible phenomena will occur."
RobertPrentice 1 year ago
Bridge Cree/Moore was worse; It killed 44 and cause over $1 billion in damage while the Andover tornado killed 17 and caused about $200 million.
dragonridley 2 years ago
I"m talking in terms of how finely chopped up in a blender the debris was.
corepuncher 2 years ago
They'd be the same in those terms since F5 damage is pretty much the same in each case; homes are leveled and swept away. But the Moore tornado did such damage in greater quantities
dragonridley 2 years ago
@corepuncher moore was the worst
jayjay882 2 years ago
I like the last few second where you can hear an airplane and there's bottled water and a cup.
Life goes on. I'm amazed how people all over the world overcome natural disasters.
joant1221 2 years ago
I can see why, in a situation like this, it would be hard to distinguish between F4 and F5 damage.
dragonridley 2 years ago
I saw a bit of video of a policeman trying to warn residents of the Golden Spur and there was some man just walking his dog like nothing was wrong. I always wonder if he made it. Did you also study the Red Rock Tornado of the same day?
Yarndt 2 years ago
Yes, I shot video of the Red Rock, OK tornado damage where it crossed I-35. A farmhouse sustained F4 damage and mile marker 200 was bent over. We interviewed the man who lived at the farm house and escaped the tornado path in his pickup truck. I've never published this video clip video.
RobertPrentice 2 years ago
shoot yourself.
inkedxr7 2 years ago
Wasn't trying to offend. That car looks like half the cars in trailer parks in my city. I can see how my comment might have come off. My bad.
rjb0978 2 years ago
Now that was a Tothpick tornado..Cars look like they have been chewed by a 200 ton angry dog..
Namdor2012 2 years ago
thats terrible. i only expectid damage like that 2 been seen on a film. but not real life. didnt think tornadoes cud 2 so much damage
theboywithnoface 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Just wondering if you have any more video from the 27th. One of my big brothers and my brother-in-law spent most of the day out there looking for my mom. But my sister and I found her instead, in the mourge. My step dad was found in the mourge on the 26th. Because he had his wallet on him, they contacted his family that night. They didn't just loose the things they owned, they lost their lives. There is still a big hole in our family that use to be occupied by them.
gluiderg 3 years ago 4
I'm very saddened to read of your loss from that day. I have another hour or two of raw video from our survey of the Andover, Kansas F5 tornado damage. It was a very sobering experience for a young meteorologist, fresh out of college.
My meteorologist friends and I can learn a lot by forecasting, chasing, surveying, and studying tornado outbreaks like this. The end result are improved forecasts, warnings and safety advice.
RobertPrentice 3 years ago
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there was a girl named emily ive argued alot with my father and oine day my dad came home pissed because he lost his job and he stabbed me in the neck then threw me in a well now im trying to haunt him but i cant find him so im hoping u can help me find him post this onto 10 videos or ill be waiting at the edge of your bed waiting until u go to sleep...a kid thought this was dumb but the next day his parents found there son dead in the bathtub with the neck slit open drowned..
kevitoe954 3 years ago
I lived in Andover during this time and lost everything I ever worked for. I was 20 years old and had my first child. It was the worst of the worst in my life. 6 years later, I lost another home in Kansas, from a Tornado. Life has moved on and yet, I have never ever seen a real tornado.
coolinamerica 3 years ago 2
The Andover tornado produced F5 damage which is as bad as it can get. I'm sorry to read about your losses and hope your life is good now.
RobertPrentice 3 years ago
Thank you Robert! Life is good today.
coolinamerica 3 years ago 2
do you know how fast the winds were in that tornado. That whole mobile home park was completely wiped out it is amazing how nasty tornados can be
Heyde1979 2 years ago
Was that car a Yugo? at the beggining of the video. lol
carmelo1966 3 years ago
yep we have lots of sachools now
ragsdale9 3 years ago
I just don't know how to call this kind of destruction. The "finger of God" is such a terrible thing. It sounds silly but I fell in love with this "monsters" when I was a little boy, I'm so sorry for the families of the victims...my prayers are with them...
VonSeeka 3 years ago
Sad... i live in this town right now weve completely rebulied the big cathlic chruch that was being built when this happened has all the pictures and the torndo pic and 2 items from the church... Sad once again 18 people died luckly i wasnt born yet..
1sportelephant 4 years ago
that was a sad day it is sad that people died you have to support each other to get through things like this you have to have faith in order to rebuild and move on. I am sure the town does not look like this today
Heyde1979 3 years ago
No it doesn't i live in it right now and i is just liek an ordinary town and we have 5* schools and every Friday we have tornado drills. A lot more housing departures have been built if my area was built back then we would of have been demolished
1sportelephant 3 years ago
that is good to hear
Heyde1979 3 years ago
YEP :)
1sportelephant 3 years ago