Archie is my neighbor --- that is, when he is in the states. I've heard he can be prickly at times, though he was very kind to me, and I can even say that, in some respects, he changed my life for the better. Good man, great musician.
This is further evidence of what happens when Capitalism is in the driver's seat where the Arts are concerned. These accomplished, venerable masters create energetic, freeing universal language standing in front of a brick wall in a little joint in a foreign country for what I'm guessing is pretty short compensation.
Meanwhile, millions of people are trained to breathlessly await the next "masterpiece" by Lady Gaga or to get out their credit cards and buy some more Justin Beiber pap.
@pyannaguy Capitalism may drive the music industry, but I hardly think it drives these guys --- though they naturally need to make a living like anyone. Artists rarely do what they do to turn a profit, but for intrinsic reasons. They do not work hours for which they expect compensation in wages --- they give it all they got, at, nearly every waking and dreaming moment of the day ---- and business savvy just allows them to continue this apparently irrational pursuit into another day.
@nobodady1 I probably didn't state it correctly, because I didn't mean that these guys were driven by money - they probably gave up on that idea not long after committing to Jazz.
I agree with you about artists, up to a point, but think you might be slightly idealistic. For every one like you describe, I think there's one looking for the right agent, the big break, big hit, big money, fame, etc. Even dedicated artists are still people. I'm still in the Biz and I've seen both types. Peace...
I am an artist and I agree with what you wrote. I want to add that playing for a musician is a need more than a business (I meant musician, not pop star fcourse). A necessity to express oneself wherehas you simply aren't always good in expressing yourself anyway else.
We sure do have to eat, but plumbers get paid for their work too, right?
If you love a music enough to spend a few bucks and somehow feel what a musician is trying to express, that's enough for the both of you.
@SquigglyJ0e I can't disagree with anything you've added. Thanks for your comment. I try to be open minded regarding what an artist may need to do to make a living, and do not judge their commercial choices on moral grounds. I do get especially impressed by those who are especially uncompromising, though.
@SquigglyJ0e by "me too" you mean that he's changed your life for the better? that he is also your neighbor? The former, right? In my case, I had a hand injury that was depressing me since I am a pianist. He has some condition on his lip that has affected his playing, and he really helped me to see that I could get through my problem --- not the end of the world, other ways to be involved with music, other interests are worthy of our attention, go meet some girls, etc.. He really helped me.
@pyannaguy If the arts relied on the state or wealthy patrons, this would be the same issue in a different guise. There are plenty of stories of composers of bygone eras either modifying their work to fit the taste of the state or their patron or simply not getting their work played because they chose not to modify it. It is a shame that jazz hasn't had a large audience since swing, though.
One of the best jazz drummers who ever lived, Bobby Durham! Met him with Sweets in the '80's in L.A. He also did a recording with the late Jimmy Cook which Jimmy played for me before he passed. So many greats gone!
i sort of agree. not really digging his note choice. none of his lines stand out here. its not the tone its the note choice. band is def swingin though.
Great! thanks for posting this clip. I would also love to see a summit performance with Shepp, Ornette, Wayne, Pharoah and Sonny while they are still here!
Born February 3, 1937, Durham was raised in the black music scene of the 1940s and 1950s in Philadelphia, a hotbed of jazz and R&B activity. Durham was practically the only contemporary drummer who worked with Ella Fitzgerald, Duke Ellington, Coleman Hawkins, and, most famously, Oscar Peterson, four legendary bandleaders who were famous the demands they made on their percussionists. --- allaboutjazz.
the drum set that bobby plays in this video is my hollywood,i've borrowed to him for these nights in venezia and bobby likes the set r.i.p. for this great drummer
Archie is my neighbor --- that is, when he is in the states. I've heard he can be prickly at times, though he was very kind to me, and I can even say that, in some respects, he changed my life for the better. Good man, great musician.
nobodady1 2 weeks ago
brilliant
SimonApers 11 months ago
Damn. I want to be stoned and play jazz when im old too.
farbrorblo 1 year ago
This is further evidence of what happens when Capitalism is in the driver's seat where the Arts are concerned. These accomplished, venerable masters create energetic, freeing universal language standing in front of a brick wall in a little joint in a foreign country for what I'm guessing is pretty short compensation.
Meanwhile, millions of people are trained to breathlessly await the next "masterpiece" by Lady Gaga or to get out their credit cards and buy some more Justin Beiber pap.
pyannaguy 1 year ago 5
@pyannaguy
man is that the truth. being a musician is dicey, but this setting, for these musicians, is truly pathetic.
TheDarmardar 1 year ago
@pyannaguy
there is a dvd.... Dizzy Gillespie in his later years, playing in a small nightclub dive.
TheDarmardar 1 year ago
@pyannaguy Capitalism may drive the music industry, but I hardly think it drives these guys --- though they naturally need to make a living like anyone. Artists rarely do what they do to turn a profit, but for intrinsic reasons. They do not work hours for which they expect compensation in wages --- they give it all they got, at, nearly every waking and dreaming moment of the day ---- and business savvy just allows them to continue this apparently irrational pursuit into another day.
nobodady1 11 months ago
@nobodady1 I probably didn't state it correctly, because I didn't mean that these guys were driven by money - they probably gave up on that idea not long after committing to Jazz.
I agree with you about artists, up to a point, but think you might be slightly idealistic. For every one like you describe, I think there's one looking for the right agent, the big break, big hit, big money, fame, etc. Even dedicated artists are still people. I'm still in the Biz and I've seen both types. Peace...
pyannaguy 11 months ago
@nobodady1
I am an artist and I agree with what you wrote. I want to add that playing for a musician is a need more than a business (I meant musician, not pop star fcourse). A necessity to express oneself wherehas you simply aren't always good in expressing yourself anyway else.
We sure do have to eat, but plumbers get paid for their work too, right?
If you love a music enough to spend a few bucks and somehow feel what a musician is trying to express, that's enough for the both of you.
SquigglyJ0e 2 weeks ago
@SquigglyJ0e I can't disagree with anything you've added. Thanks for your comment. I try to be open minded regarding what an artist may need to do to make a living, and do not judge their commercial choices on moral grounds. I do get especially impressed by those who are especially uncompromising, though.
nobodady1 2 weeks ago
@nobodady1
me too, and Shepp is one of my all time favs.
Outstanding artist.
SquigglyJ0e 17 hours ago
@SquigglyJ0e by "me too" you mean that he's changed your life for the better? that he is also your neighbor? The former, right? In my case, I had a hand injury that was depressing me since I am a pianist. He has some condition on his lip that has affected his playing, and he really helped me to see that I could get through my problem --- not the end of the world, other ways to be involved with music, other interests are worthy of our attention, go meet some girls, etc.. He really helped me.
nobodady1 10 hours ago
@pyannaguy If the arts relied on the state or wealthy patrons, this would be the same issue in a different guise. There are plenty of stories of composers of bygone eras either modifying their work to fit the taste of the state or their patron or simply not getting their work played because they chose not to modify it. It is a shame that jazz hasn't had a large audience since swing, though.
joshisanonymous 4 months ago
One of the best jazz drummers who ever lived, Bobby Durham! Met him with Sweets in the '80's in L.A. He also did a recording with the late Jimmy Cook which Jimmy played for me before he passed. So many greats gone!
ocnoreen 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Shepp should fucking retire - he sounds like shit.
JimShoes1 2 years ago
i sort of agree. not really digging his note choice. none of his lines stand out here. its not the tone its the note choice. band is def swingin though.
unclejunglebass 1 year ago
Great! thanks for posting this clip. I would also love to see a summit performance with Shepp, Ornette, Wayne, Pharoah and Sonny while they are still here!
Streamline09 2 years ago 2
Drummer is swinging!
MrJackson1956 2 years ago
Archie Shepp lgreat musician
jmet718 2 years ago 2
Nice tune!
what's the name??
(What's wrong with his mouth?)
principios 2 years ago
U-Jaama an original. He split his lip open a long time ago and has had some embouchure problems since...
allegedartistlessons 2 years ago
The name of the tune is "Hope" U-Jaama is a different Arche Shepp compostion
MrJackson1956 2 years ago
(his mouth is about the reed he used, and he used the hardest one)
eldorado8888 2 years ago
I played in that same bar last night
W0bbl344 2 years ago 2
Is this tune by mr. archie shepp ?
martinhablaespagnol 2 years ago
damn what tone archie has is unreal
edcerc 3 years ago 6
RIP Bobby Durham.
Swinging in Heaven.
customkey 3 years ago
Born February 3, 1937, Durham was raised in the black music scene of the 1940s and 1950s in Philadelphia, a hotbed of jazz and R&B activity. Durham was practically the only contemporary drummer who worked with Ella Fitzgerald, Duke Ellington, Coleman Hawkins, and, most famously, Oscar Peterson, four legendary bandleaders who were famous the demands they made on their percussionists. --- allaboutjazz.
KnownWorld 3 years ago
the drum set that bobby plays in this video is my hollywood,i've borrowed to him for these nights in venezia and bobby likes the set r.i.p. for this great drummer
valentynesuite 3 years ago
Bobby Durham died this morning.
R.I.P Bobby. Your contribution to the world of drums and jazz is huge and you will be missed.
aurelienpk 3 years ago 9
I saw him performing yesterday in my hometown. He should be 70 or 71 years old, and uhmm what can I say..he got a standing ovation.
powermikertje 3 years ago
I want to live more.
banjomoney 4 years ago