The Hour: Naomi Klein

[MultiContrarian]

The greatest intellectual fraud of our generation, there she is...

[eimb1999]

The only duisaster is socialism, but of course that pov will not be shown on the leftist CBC, who get all their finding from... ready? SOCIALISM!

[mrdirkdiggler78]

It's misleading to even attempt labeling corporatism as capitalism. The economics of fascism are the antithesis of a free market. If there is something most of us pro free market people dislike more than socialism, it's corporatism.

[8897670]

hot indeed

but somebody should have told her about Econ 101 before writing this book

[taoandzen]

She's hot!

[xdeliriumx1]

excellent book, ive read several of them and loved them

[ddabab]

I read her impressive book and now I see her persona is as impressive as what she is writing- WOW!!!

[stett99]

i have this book but since experiencing the illumination provided by the occult fashion of the government, the history ect. this mental challenge misses the main fact that people dont get, the fascist oligarchal system we have. free market is not articulate enough politically, we have been bought and sold a long time ago through the federal reserve. there is a hidden hand

[jaay334]

Hmm shock like when commies took over chaina and killed 70 million

[9thedreaming9]

"incomprehensible communist propaganda". Oh my god, what an ignorant. There´s nothing complicated in her words, in fact, she kind of spekas for people like you who seems to be not getting it at all. Bet u r from the States and think that all the thing with Irak it´s only for democracy and human rights! hahaha

[MillionthUsername]

This nutbag says equates extreme statist action with "free market".

She called the bombing and takeover of Iraq an example of "free market."

She's just a liar spewing out incomprehensible communist propaganda.

Stalin's term, useful idiot, comes to mind.

[bapyou]

"useful idiot"

The truly useful idiots are those, like you, who stand up for the wealthy and their ability to make profits at all turns, while eschewing those less fortunate.

You are incredibly useful for keeping the wealthy wealthy, and increasing their power and hegemony over the remainder of mankind.

So, puff up your chest & feel good about standing up for power. They use you well. So much so that you scream "idiot" at any one who challenges your assumptions.

[MillionthUsername]

You're really confused.

I stand for liberty.

I am against unjust power of all kinds.

She's a useful idiot because she is a weak-minded pseudo-intellectual who supports the corrupt state. She is a communist.

I don't want anything from you. I don't want to control you or to steal from you or to dictate to you. I would never presume to know what's best for you and to use violence in order to "help" you. And yet you hate me and blame me for things I have nothing to do with!

[bapyou]

"(Naomi Klein)is a weak-minded pseudo-intellectual"

Ha ha ha. You wish she were. She is far from "weak-minded" or a "pseudo-intellectual."

"I am against unjust power of all kinds."

Were you against the US support for dictator Somoza in Nicaragua? Was it "just power" when Ronald Reagan supported death squads in El Salvador killing 1000s? Are you against America's imperialist invasion of Iraq? How do you feel about the US overthrow of the democratically-elected gov in 1973 Chile?

[MillionthUsername]

Klein exposes herself as a liar and a fool in what she says and writes. You can either accept that or not. It's your mind.

Of course I'm against ALL unjust power. I just said so. But you figure I must be a liar since everyone you know is a liar, right?

Unfortunately, no one gives support to peace or liberty so you might as well demonize me anyway.

It's funny how people like you have your peculiar idea of evil which is meaningless since it is not applied on principle, only by politics.

[bapyou]

"Klein exposes herself as a liar and a fool in what she says and writes."

Examples, please.

"Of course I'm against ALL unjust power."

Answer just one of the instances I posed in my last comment. It's fine to be against "unjust power" in the general & abstract sense. I've given several examples (Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Iraq) where US power was brought to bear against political systems the US gov disliked, or for political systems the people of the nation in question disliked.

[MillionthUsername]

I read what you wrote and I replied that I am against ALL of it! What else do you want me to say?

I want freedom for those people and freedom for myself and freedom for you.

I apply the non-aggression principle in reality as well as in the abstract. People like Klein, of course, do not. She can rattle off hundreds of abuses and then in the next breath proffer her own.

In her speeches she absurdly tries to blame state crimes on free markets. That's one way she lies to push her agenda.

[bapyou]

Let me put it this way:

You called Naomi Klein "a communist." Ronald Reagan (1) supported the Contras against the Nicaraguan government; (2) he effectively supported the death squads of El Salvador & Guatemala, all under the guise of "fighting communism." (3) Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger & CIA overthrew the gov of Salvador Allende in Chile 1973 because Allende was a Marxist.

If you're "against unjust power of all kinds," in these instances you'd be supporting leftists. Now what?

[bapyou]

"In her speeches she absurdly tries to blame state crimes on free markets."

In 1973 the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende was overthrown in a coup masterminded by Henry Kissinger & CIA. This is not conspiracy theory; documents detailing the operation have been made public.

The reason for the overthrow of a democracy? The elected Marxist leader Salvador Allende nationalized Chile's copper industry, which had been owned by a US company.

(to be continued)

[leatherface70]

look up kurt lewin  change thery {unfreezing, change and refreezng.

[MrDAW007]

... and the real sad thing is that the Conservative Right/Republican Party is totally clueless as to the evil they're helping bring upon the world. It scares the hell out of me. They're exactly like the German people who were misled back in 1933.

[pandoraofeden]

you're so right...amen to that. But don't worry, freedom is inevitable in the evolution of man. As we continue to evovle, we get closer and closer to freedom. The current system in place is set to fail.

[treid100182]

Naomi is Smart and Hot!!!!!!!!!

[nastassja08]

naomi reveals capitalism at its worst. naomi cautions us on our march to becoming market states

[sabram24]

Naomi Klein is a idiot

[donniesbrudder]

Buy the book!!!!!!

[alilapointe1]

the female version of aaron russou

[Eldel15]

we have never had a free market always the government intervening.

[Sorcoral]

i say big corporations influencing government policy

but i agree, free market is a fallacy

[tonybonez]

You are right. I just wrote a report on this.

In fact we didn't have democracy either.

We also participated in "Infant Industry Preotection"

[kockunge]

we DONT have democracy now :)

[Lunsivar]

This woman is just another bull shitter that is being pushed thru media. They are trying to create a new "original thinker" and a quasi- dissident, while she is just a selfcentred media promoted buffoon.

[jovando25]

whatever u says, she is hot though!!!

[kubak81]

Yeah, and whatever she says, she's hot too...you know man brains turn off in sight of a beatiful woman, that's a scientifically proven fact

[kantimmanuel05]

NO, that is not true. Liberals' brains do not function like a normal human being.

[leatherface70]

what study backs that up

[cosmicfrank]

Her book is the study, read it. There is 100 pages, really, of notes for each statements she makes, it's a serious research job she did. She's definitely bias but she's showing amazing connections between events and players behind the scene, it's backed up and it can't be ignored. The reality might be slightly greyer but it connects a lot of dots.

[leatherface70]

i was respondind 2 wait kubak 81 was saying about mens brians .not on the video. the person maid a sexist comment .and i challenge the person 2 back it up

[kleinjc]

This is tragic that my tax dollars fund a biased station. If we're going to have a very political station like the CBC, it should at least have a semblance of fairness. For every Naomi Klein interview, we need to have a Ron Paul or a Tom Woods interview to be fair to the taxpayers.

[VNeck22]

C'mon dude... if the CBC is a "biased" "political station", it is hardly biased in favour of people like Naomi Klein. If anything, it regularly reinforces and upholds the status quo. Try attending a protest and then watch CBC news coverage of it, if you don't believe me. If you're for fairness and balanced dissemination of information, you're on the wrong side of the argument, man!

[petepittsburgh]

Free-market capitalists agree with the majority of what she said.

Friedman talked about the dangers of govt crony capitalism.

Here's an experiment, find one capitalist from Adam Smith to Ron Paul that would defend Halliburton's dealings in Iraq.

Capitalists hate republicans. She is pinning the shadiness of republicans on the free-market.

Does she really think Adam Smith would've liked Bush? Does she think Friedman agreed with Pinochet's tactics? Is she serious?

[bawbawbla]

I can't believe my tax dollars actually put that moron on TV for 8 minutes. Maybe if I'm lucky she will continue to leetch of the public coffers by going back to publicly funded university and actually finishing a degree. At least then she might have her name on something that wasn't a bunch of nonsense. If you're reading this Naomi, I'd suggest you take economics.

[jovando25]

first of all, its good that they have some one like her on, it at least creates discussion, and a lot of it makes sense, if you look at current conditions, 2nd you dont need a degree to be aware or savvy with current trends, people dont like when some is out of the paradigm of the left right illusion, people like when some takes a side, but never the what is, plus people in general are absolutist, and thats a dangerous place 2 b, because it does not allow you 2 see beyond ones own concrete views

[SlaktadOchStolt]

Last time I checked, she was analyzing politics, and offering social critique, not analyzing economics.

[AzoreanProud]

state of shock=Fear=Terrorism=perpetual Fear

[destrierdes]

I really do wonder, how many of these commentators actually read any of Naomi Klein's written words. My bet, your only reacting upon the image you've been fed by an angled and strained media intake. There are always rhetorical discourse to be had on thought provoking subjects. But really. Whatever "side" your already cemented in, read the book. You are better for it!

[jambon57]

"For example she says the 1989 tianaman square demonstrations were AGAINST free markets."

Exactly. In fact the Chinese Govt slowed down the reforms after the massacre. If Klein were correct one would expect the govt would maintained the reforms or have sped things up. Her take on what happened there is a complete fabrication and, quite frankly, obscene.

[Rustinator5]

shes hot!

[Ruffles811]

She´s beautiful, but insane. Her book is full of lies and cut-and-paste. She is NOT fair to the people she is quoting.

[Sondre7]

I found this book quite horrific and disturbing. She is throughout the book assigning opinions to Friedman which isn't true. Further she twists facts and historical events to suit her worldview.

For example she says the 1989 tianaman square demonstrations were AGAINST free markets. Whereas it was for more rights, free spech and democracy. A terrible lie and a perfect example of how she twists things to suit her quite bad ideas.

[jonLukasC]

OMG i hate her sooo much

[JimmyeDallas]

She does not say that, it is you who is the terrible liar. She cites specifically that the protests were against authoritarianism and even mentions the "Goddess of Democracy" statue in her book.

Most people know that the privatization and opening to foreign investment was specifically used to keep the one-party system afloat. It was the willingness of Chinese soldiers to shoot their own people that shocked the citizens and the world to accept the one party regime. The iron fist prevailed.

[Sondre7]

Oh she does. She may mention the "Goddess og democracy", but her prevailing point is that the government used the crisis to implement free market ideas - whereas the truth is that free market reforms stopped the 2 years after the massacre- combined with tightening og civil rights.

"Most people" can hardly do anything but guess what any of the chinese communist partys reforms intend so I am quite surprised you're able to see into their minds.

[Menticide2012]

Indeed, also the book is amazing, a must read.

[fomastephanovitch]

She's a damned fine catch for any man!

[jbryant13]

For an even better example of what she's describing - Google "Bechtel+Bolivia" and see how those greedy bastards were charging peasants for water

[setino2]

She is right, but it doesn't change anything.

You can tell your opinion, you can make your fortune, your money this way while you don't disturb OTHERS' circles.

[newtonbrook]

She must be "shocked" at all the money she made from the book. She is a limousine socialist.If she was honest she would donate all her money to poverty, but she won't, leftists want "others" ie you the tax payer to transfer your wealth.

[Ninjaslippa]

Someone who donates all there possessions to the poor isn't a "limousine socialist" what your describing is a christian. We have a progressive tax system in the U.S. if she makes more she is supposed to pay more.

[3chrds]

damn, she's married. i'll still fantasize.

[TrentH190]

Naomi is my new hero,

[YentaY0]

What most people don't understand is that privately funded think tanks have been engaging in social engineering projects having GLOBAL consequences. Shock Blackwater is a CLASSIC example of their work. A corporation is treated as a PERSON under the law. A PERSON that cannot die, that you cannot put in jail, and for whom social responsibility is nothing more that the cost of doing business.

[gorgorybmus]

Amen, YentaY0! (Supreme court case- Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company) I think that we will see this rise in Corporatism and how it really does not serve oue interests. Maybe we could even say, "That is what fundamentalists mean when they talk about 'The Great Satan'". A system rules by the greed of wicked men, a faceless menace that liquifies the wealth of weaker nations and casts them to their new crippled, much more indebted, fate.

[mrrimfire]

Klein is a fraud. She claims that the 1989 Chinese crackdown was the result of activists being against economic reform. She is a liar and a fraud.

[gorgorybmus]

Well, what argument do you have to offer to back your position up? At least she took the time to do research. And if you read the book she makes logical conclusions and actually lists her sources. What is the central engine to all large societies? The economy, in whatever form it takes. If you don't believe that, think about how gas prices have reduced travel, shopping, and most other things realted to money...

[mrrimfire]

You must believe in the "new legitimiacy", which is "because I did the research I am right and have legitimacy". This is what Micheal Moore (probably a coffee club memebr friend of Klein's)does and fools believe his nonsense. The protest was about China's horrible attitude about allowing free speech (other political parties, dissent, and other rights)more than anything else. You can have a million dollars (or a billion) and still be a slave to one party rule.

[gorgorybmus]

Well, if you don't believe her research as a respected investigative journalist then you must be basing your view on actual experience- Were you there? Do you know a person that actually was there/experienced it?

[TrentH190]

man WITH ALL DO RESPECT,SHUT TGHE FUCK UP!

[TrueBlueHueMan]

Reading Klein's book is like having the curtain pulled back: suddenly you see why all of recent history has been unfolding the way it has, often with disastrous results.

"Shock Doctrine" is a MUST-read for anyone who hopes to understand the world today.

[VampiressOnDaProwl]

Naomi may be Jewish but she's infinitely more Christ-like than u will ever be. mean-spirited attitudes like urs, Runerrk + all ur Neo-con Corporatist ilk are Satanic counterfeits!

Naomi has a Christ-like spirit or Jewish empathic spirit in her that shows brightly by her compassion for the world + people. dont be arrogant or jealous of that.

that's Socialism whether u believe or not!Socialism balances out greed of pure Capitalism + keeps it honest.

that's far from immoral. it's Righteous!

[Monsunamii]

Errrrrr, "Christ" was Jewsish....

[leatherface70]

the problem with socilism is they want 2 shar wat you got not what thay got

[hammelby]

Hm, that's not completely true. In europe we pay taxes, so that if you or I gets screwed (not able to work, gets really sick) the tax money then help you to pay food, rent and medical bills. It beats living in a cardboard box in New Orleans, just because catrina came by. I have been on welfare and even if i get $2.000 / month its not fun (lots of bureacracy, meetings), but its designed that way so you can get your ass out and find a job. So none really wants to be unemployed here. It works.

[VampiressOnDaProwl]

give to those that beg for money or food regardless, how they intend to use it.

isnt ur job to judge them, only to do the Lord's will by giving to the least of these whatever they beg + leave judging to God.

better to give to 99 dishonest beggars + only one honest beggar who uses money for food or clothing than not give to any.

true of Socialized Capitalism + higher taxes for those making millions + billions.

u should be happy ur taxes went to easing suffering instead of war + death

[VampiressOnDaProwl]

unregulated Capitalism is immoral + destructive.

indifference to poverty is immoral to God + inhumane to Americans. we're our brothers' + sisters' keepers, as Christ says.

unregulated Capitalism is so primitive + barbaric.

pure Socialism doesnt have purpose by itself. it's meant as measure to curb corruption, wild greed of Capitalism while increasing growth rates + expansion of market, encouraging fast profit growth.

happy well-paid financially stable consumers spend lots more. profits go up

[VampiressOnDaProwl]

Matthew 6,2,4. When you give alms, do not sound a trumpet, as hypocrites do in church. But when you give alms, do not let people know what you do so your alms may be tin secret. and your Father who sees in secret will repay you.

[VampiressOnDaProwl]

everything u say and do proves ur blindness + utter ignorance.

u see but do not understand.

u hear but refuse to take to heart.

you think as men think. not as God thinks.

u make any excuse u can to rationalize greed + avoid guilt. ur indifference to the Poor and sick.

paying taxes to help the Poor isnt immoral. Socialism isnt immoral. indifference, informed negligence + perverse delight toward human suffering of any kind is very Un-Christian.

how un-Christ like of u, things u say.

[markdcarter]

Ah, if only paying taxes went to helping the poor (instead of fattening the banksters); the Grace Commission put an end to that illusion once and for all, I'm afraid.... Other than that, you're very much on the right track! I like Jesus on usury and the moneylenders.

Recommended viewing: "Money as Debt".

Also: "Zeitgeist Addendum"; "The Money Masters".

[runnerrk]

christian charity - God

socialism/communism - satan

for every virtue of God..satan has a counterfeit

LBJ's GS programs fostered much poverty and stripped people of the dignity required to remain law abiding..GS literally created most of the crime in America today..socialism is inherently evil..and exists for the sole purpose of spawning more evil

couldn't help but notice..I am far less judgemental than you..masking one's rotten fruit is not an easy thing, is it?

[Completedisclosure]

You're an idiot.

[gamesbok]

Insults you have. Do you have an arguement?

[Naujdavid]

Theres still good people in this world.

[blahinhawaii]

Prepare people to resist a predatory PUSH toward the expansion of the SPP during the aftermath of the next major crisis. It needs to be STRESSED in every psyche that it's NOT okay to nullify our constitution by LYING to us, bypassing democratic processess and harmonizing regulations to get ready to push us into an authoritarian North American Parliment that starts as a "trade union" and "Northcom security perimeter." NWO scumbags need to be prosecuted and brought to justice for sedition.

[jwlvs]

Naomi Klein rocks.

[epiong]

The book is awesome. Buy it!

[littlegreymen]

she said discombobulated. buy her book.

[Oilwellian]

I'm buying her book this week. Her doctrine is right on the money.