Hmm. 18g - a lot of coffee. I should really vary my dosage as I'm a stickler for 14g, I'm sure that not varying it is even worse than being a stickler.
How do you deal with channeling? It happens a lot in the woodneck. That finger thing, making a hole? Do you find that reduces channeling or is that for a different reason?
@hazymat The woodneck is harder to do a proper pour over with when compared to other methods, yes. The hole I make helps with the pre-infusion / bloom stage, where I only pour enough water to saturate the grinds and let it sit. This allows the gases to release, and during the bloom effect you can see the coffee grinds expanding. If this expansion happens during the pour, it can cause a lot of channeling.
mmm : ) I'm drinking one of these right now! Have you ever used cloth filters in a commercial setting? I have recently been toying with the idea of brewed to order speciality coffee as a premium product, but seems impractical - especially due to cleaning and turnaround time?
@onefatpothead As of the making of this video, it was pretty unheard of. Nowadays though, you can find it in certain places and sometimes just by request. I'd like to say I played a hand in that happening.
@klarinetta Sorry I seem to have missed this question. Hario cloth is going to give depth filtration ( in the particulates of coffee grinds ) and allow the oils of the coffee to pass through into the cup. You can see a small layer of oils floating on top of the brew sometimes. This gives the brewed coffee a better texture, and more clarity. Paper filters absorb the oils and do not allow them to pass through. Chemex paper filters are too thick and impart a paper flavor.
Interesting. You start with a relatively low temperature. As soon as it leaves the kettle it will cool down an extra couple of degrees due to the ambient temperature. On top of that, it will also cool during the extraction leaving you with a temperature below the desired one I would say?
@Nautijan Not completely true. Since you're continuously pouring from the bulk of the water in the kettle new water is being introduced constantly, so although it is true that the first bit you pour is cooler, the rest is not. Also, I would keep the temperature even lower if I were able to keep it 100% constant (which I am and do if I'm using the Luminaire Bravo), to compensate. The starting temperature of 90.5c is ideal, but brewing at 90.5c is actually not. For this coffee, at least.
@ChristopherVanS But, did you ever measure the temperature of the water in the filter? although the water is 90.5degrees as soon as it leaves the kettle it drops in temperature quite a bit (tiny stream of water that comes in contact with the surroundings at ambient temperature). Anyway, as I read from your anwer the ideal brewing temperature of this coffee is lower so you already accounted for that drop. In my experience though, this drop is quite substantial
It's a custom made kettle that gives a much more defined pour. You can mimic it with the bouno but it takes more practice. This kettle is more temperate than the bouno, however.
@kwantran It's worth it for sure, but if you are only using it for small amounts of water and don't really need the increased temperature stability then it may not be. Some people are working on finding smaller and cheaper alternatives. They are not widely distributed yet though.
I would brew over the cup if I was using a v60 ceramic/glass. The hoop design of the Woodneck relies on the glass to help keep the temperature while brewing. I've tried a lot of designs that are similar but instead of being enclosed they are open. For example, a wire design that spirals like a cone, and you place your paper/cloth filter in the cone. The problem with these is that they lose a lot of temperature really fast. The kettle I'm using also holds temperature very well as I pour.
Love that kettle!!!
gabeslover 3 weeks ago
This is hilarious. I took a vid of him making a siphon pot for me over a year ago which I refer to fairly regularly.
I suspected when I looked up "hario pour over cloth" on youtube he might show up again.
desertkoi 3 months ago
@desertkoi Haha, who're you? I only remember specifically three people I didn't personally know taking video of me doing a syphon.
ChristopherVanS 3 months ago
Hmm. 18g - a lot of coffee. I should really vary my dosage as I'm a stickler for 14g, I'm sure that not varying it is even worse than being a stickler.
How do you deal with channeling? It happens a lot in the woodneck. That finger thing, making a hole? Do you find that reduces channeling or is that for a different reason?
Thanks!
hazymat 10 months ago
@hazymat The woodneck is harder to do a proper pour over with when compared to other methods, yes. The hole I make helps with the pre-infusion / bloom stage, where I only pour enough water to saturate the grinds and let it sit. This allows the gases to release, and during the bloom effect you can see the coffee grinds expanding. If this expansion happens during the pour, it can cause a lot of channeling.
ChristopherVanS 3 months ago
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proustie 11 months ago
mmm : ) I'm drinking one of these right now! Have you ever used cloth filters in a commercial setting? I have recently been toying with the idea of brewed to order speciality coffee as a premium product, but seems impractical - especially due to cleaning and turnaround time?
onefatpothead 1 year ago
@onefatpothead As of the making of this video, it was pretty unheard of. Nowadays though, you can find it in certain places and sometimes just by request. I'd like to say I played a hand in that happening.
ChristopherVanS 3 months ago
What is he difference in taste in pour over from using Hario Cloth filter,Hario paper filter,regular paper filter or Chemex paper filter ?
klarinetta 1 year ago
@klarinetta
Bump! Also interested in finding out about the different filters.
DrChrisBiomed 1 year ago
@klarinetta Sorry I seem to have missed this question. Hario cloth is going to give depth filtration ( in the particulates of coffee grinds ) and allow the oils of the coffee to pass through into the cup. You can see a small layer of oils floating on top of the brew sometimes. This gives the brewed coffee a better texture, and more clarity. Paper filters absorb the oils and do not allow them to pass through. Chemex paper filters are too thick and impart a paper flavor.
ChristopherVanS 3 months ago
@ChristopherVanS Thanks :D
klarinetta 3 months ago
This does not look like the buono? Which model is this (also made by hario, perhaps?)
nocreamnosugar 1 year ago
Interesting. You start with a relatively low temperature. As soon as it leaves the kettle it will cool down an extra couple of degrees due to the ambient temperature. On top of that, it will also cool during the extraction leaving you with a temperature below the desired one I would say?
Nautijan 1 year ago
@Nautijan Not completely true. Since you're continuously pouring from the bulk of the water in the kettle new water is being introduced constantly, so although it is true that the first bit you pour is cooler, the rest is not. Also, I would keep the temperature even lower if I were able to keep it 100% constant (which I am and do if I'm using the Luminaire Bravo), to compensate. The starting temperature of 90.5c is ideal, but brewing at 90.5c is actually not. For this coffee, at least.
ChristopherVanS 1 year ago
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Nautijan 1 year ago
@ChristopherVanS But, did you ever measure the temperature of the water in the filter? although the water is 90.5degrees as soon as it leaves the kettle it drops in temperature quite a bit (tiny stream of water that comes in contact with the surroundings at ambient temperature). Anyway, as I read from your anwer the ideal brewing temperature of this coffee is lower so you already accounted for that drop. In my experience though, this drop is quite substantial
Nautijan 1 year ago
Is this the 1 cup or 3 cup version?
sygyzy 1 year ago
@sygyzy 1 cup.
ChristopherVanS 1 year ago
Why don't you use a coffee maker? Takes 30 seconds...
LesterDragon 2 years ago
Quality over speed, my friend. It's much different.
ChristopherVanS 2 years ago
It still tastes good o.o Coffee is coffee anyway.
LesterDragon 2 years ago
Coffee from a coffee maker may taste good, but this is better :)
merryman42809 2 years ago
what kettle is that? it looks similar to teh buono.
kwantran 2 years ago
It's a custom made kettle that gives a much more defined pour. You can mimic it with the bouno but it takes more practice. This kettle is more temperate than the bouno, however.
ChristopherVanS 2 years ago
@ChristopherVanS is the buono really worth the price? do you think there are some cheaper alternatives?
kwantran 2 years ago
@kwantran It's worth it for sure, but if you are only using it for small amounts of water and don't really need the increased temperature stability then it may not be. Some people are working on finding smaller and cheaper alternatives. They are not widely distributed yet though.
ChristopherVanS 1 year ago
why don't you directly brew over the cup? is there a reason for it or just habit?
ranier202 2 years ago
I would brew over the cup if I was using a v60 ceramic/glass. The hoop design of the Woodneck relies on the glass to help keep the temperature while brewing. I've tried a lot of designs that are similar but instead of being enclosed they are open. For example, a wire design that spirals like a cone, and you place your paper/cloth filter in the cone. The problem with these is that they lose a lot of temperature really fast. The kettle I'm using also holds temperature very well as I pour.
ChristopherVanS 2 years ago
good shit
afn33282 2 years ago