so now the horses are 'happy to be out running around instead of being cooped up in that tent"
in the snow. *roll eyes* you think they might get a little 'cold' out there in the snow? shouldn't they be tucked into a warm bed with an electric blanket and a cup of warm cocoa?
this reporter doesnt' even realize how stupid she sounds...
Of all the horrific cases out there... that are -so- hard to get action on in some places, these are the ones seized, and to end up God knows where in the end. Anyone who really cares about their horses knows how hard it is to find a good home that won't turn fickle and sell the animal for cheap to God knows who on Craigslist, or worse.
This case/news report/ignorance, all of it still scares the shit out of me as a horse owner. I have to laugh at the 29 degree barn comment, and the shiny coats thing (the hair shafts should always have a sheen, but horses -do- grow winter coats, and they -do- love mud). But it's a nervous laugh. The horses are clearly in great shape, nice and fat for winter... The care they were given clearly shows that this lady probably truly did love them and care for them. *shudder*
OMG, these people are complete idiots. What in the hell were people doing before cars were invented? Those animals were beautiful, fat, healthy and well cared for. What in the hell were they suppose to do, build a barn in the middle of Chicago? There are only so many locations in Chicago where horses are legal. Most of those companies have the horses standing in industrial buildings. Nothing like pulling at the heart strings with a bunch of bullshit.
Domestic horse is differnt then wild.Wild can roam away from mudd so hooves not get thrush.Domestic can,t so we need to clean the hooves to keep thrush away.As long as rain and wind is off them and they are dry they will stay healthy.Where they able to lay on dry beds?
And WHY would you want "electricity" in a tent???? The horses were fat and not in bad shape at all, they didn't even have that much mud on them, this whole deal is over kill on minor issues.
@userbc44 just like circus animals they are easy target's for people that don't know anything past what they are told to think by their extremist orginizations. no room for self thought & nobody checks the facts. horses on the farm are out doors 9/10 in not all the time . nothing wrong with that they are genetically suited to being outddoors they are wild animals.
" Horses that should have been paraded with flowing manes and shiny coats were instead covered in mud and around their legs and hooves were clumps of what smelled like manure" Im a bit stunned; don't these idiots know that being covered in mud and stinking like a horse is what horses are REALLY like ? they didn't have "electricity and running water " ? WHAT ? Since when did horses need electricity and running water ? Morons
In my last comment, SPCA should read HSUS, the latter being the biggest offenders when it comes violating the rights of an animal's owner/caretaker & doing nothing for animals whilst raking in millions in donations gleaned from the well-intentioned misinformed.
BTW: Does anyone know if these horses were ever returned to their rightful owners?
Do these idiots-PETA, ARA, SPCA -not realise when you take away a horse's means to pay for its keep, it is shipped & when there is no longer any use for them, they are not longer bred & the breed becomes EXTINCT. There are many breeds of carriage/draught horses that no longer exist 'cos they lost their jobs. Horses are tougher than they look & easily adapt to the cold. Re being hungry: a horse will gorge itself until it colics or founders, which is why stabled ones are on tight feed schedules.
Ihave been to a barn that has had 'insufficient water and no food', just before dinner time. Horses poo and sometimes get it on thier legs and step on it so its in thier hooves. How many times have you been in an unheated barn full of horses? When the doors stay closed, its nice and warm. Who are these trainers who say horses cant live in the cold? I live in Alberta, so I must becruel for not shipping them to Florida every winter!
@downhomesunset don't forget florida horsees who need to cool off in the summer.ar people are the unwitting tools of a shadow gov that wants all soverieingty removed, this is just another issue amongst many .
my mom worked there bu she kept her stall clean n got her horse out like 3 days b4 this happened and wen we were tearing down the barn i took a dump in one of the stalls
That is one of the issues with the AR movement most people dont see.They have twisted the laws so once they walk off with your loving pets (guilty or not) They are gone ! You have no right to get them back...The laws are badly written and People need to help get them STOPPED !
The owners have sued the rescue to STOP the adoptions, but one was already adopted out. Stupid move by the rescue, it'll look really bad in court that they disregarded the owners rights.
Now the rescue is charging $10 a day PER HORSE board and is passive aggressively trying to prevent the owners' visits. I think if the owners are paying board, they have the right to take their horses elsewhere.
They are doing this all over the US under the color of the law.Doing it to Horse people,dog people,cat people .The ARA's have rubbed butts with the law makers to give them power and step all over Our Rights Rights.People need Stand up and FIGHT BACK ! THey are out of control !
this is utterly ridiculous. those horses looked to be in fine condition. a little mud on their legs is not the end of the world. they had shelter from the wind. so what if the shelter didn't have electricity or running water? i've been in many barns that didn't have power or water. it's not like you need power to run a furnace to keep them warm, and you can haul water from another location to fill water buckets.
i have to wonder what the real motivation was in seizing the horses.
I'll agree that the horses can take the cold pretty well, if they're in good condition. But if they're standing in mud all the time and being deprived of food and water, that isn't good.
I'm OK with carriage horses, but only if the horses are given plenty of water on warm days (on hot days, they shouldn't be out though) and allowed some break time on soft ground so they can urinate. Most horses won't pee on a hard surface since they don't like to splatter themselves.
OK, it does not sound good, with insufficient food and little water, I´ll agree.
But sorry, I have to disagree on the subject of the necessity of taking the horses away: the animals look good, and in general it should be known that HORSES CAN STAND COLD BETTER THAN HEAT. And all the walking in front of the carriage os good too; they´re "roaming animals". It suits them if it´s done rightly.
I think this "rescue mission" was an over-reaction.
so now the horses are 'happy to be out running around instead of being cooped up in that tent"
in the snow. *roll eyes* you think they might get a little 'cold' out there in the snow? shouldn't they be tucked into a warm bed with an electric blanket and a cup of warm cocoa?
this reporter doesnt' even realize how stupid she sounds...
teampenit 3 weeks ago
Of all the horrific cases out there... that are -so- hard to get action on in some places, these are the ones seized, and to end up God knows where in the end. Anyone who really cares about their horses knows how hard it is to find a good home that won't turn fickle and sell the animal for cheap to God knows who on Craigslist, or worse.
JulesKelworan 4 weeks ago
This case/news report/ignorance, all of it still scares the shit out of me as a horse owner. I have to laugh at the 29 degree barn comment, and the shiny coats thing (the hair shafts should always have a sheen, but horses -do- grow winter coats, and they -do- love mud). But it's a nervous laugh. The horses are clearly in great shape, nice and fat for winter... The care they were given clearly shows that this lady probably truly did love them and care for them. *shudder*
JulesKelworan 4 weeks ago
OMG, these people are complete idiots. What in the hell were people doing before cars were invented? Those animals were beautiful, fat, healthy and well cared for. What in the hell were they suppose to do, build a barn in the middle of Chicago? There are only so many locations in Chicago where horses are legal. Most of those companies have the horses standing in industrial buildings. Nothing like pulling at the heart strings with a bunch of bullshit.
SkyHigh796 1 year ago
Domestic horse is differnt then wild.Wild can roam away from mudd so hooves not get thrush.Domestic can,t so we need to clean the hooves to keep thrush away.As long as rain and wind is off them and they are dry they will stay healthy.Where they able to lay on dry beds?
7466309change 1 year ago
And WHY would you want "electricity" in a tent???? The horses were fat and not in bad shape at all, they didn't even have that much mud on them, this whole deal is over kill on minor issues.
thehappyhoof 1 year ago
these horses were fine!
KelleeAndBuck 1 year ago
The media is so gullible, sloppy reporting without checking facts
Wild horses have NO shealter, thats where they lived until man decided they needed a barn.
Gina Morgan needs a new name Gina Moron.
Many barns do not have electricity IN the barn.
Horses get dirty and muddy every day, they roll in their own poo
This story is meretricious without anything meritorious about it
Here is a question to ponder over:
Why aren't these people saving horses that are truely abused?
userbc44 1 year ago
@userbc44 just like circus animals they are easy target's for people that don't know anything past what they are told to think by their extremist orginizations. no room for self thought & nobody checks the facts. horses on the farm are out doors 9/10 in not all the time . nothing wrong with that they are genetically suited to being outddoors they are wild animals.
circusboy90210 10 months ago
Huh?!?!, Horses get mud on them daily in the field!
The horses I see here in this video have a fine weight.
Wild horses do not get a TENT, they are exposed to the elements.
This stinks of way too much propoganda, and how many people have electricity in a BARN!?!?! This is just a load of bull.
TerrorNoxArcana 1 year ago
" Horses that should have been paraded with flowing manes and shiny coats were instead covered in mud and around their legs and hooves were clumps of what smelled like manure" Im a bit stunned; don't these idiots know that being covered in mud and stinking like a horse is what horses are REALLY like ? they didn't have "electricity and running water " ? WHAT ? Since when did horses need electricity and running water ? Morons
nags2bitches 1 year ago
In my last comment, SPCA should read HSUS, the latter being the biggest offenders when it comes violating the rights of an animal's owner/caretaker & doing nothing for animals whilst raking in millions in donations gleaned from the well-intentioned misinformed.
BTW: Does anyone know if these horses were ever returned to their rightful owners?
mtardiff 1 year ago
Do these idiots-PETA, ARA, SPCA -not realise when you take away a horse's means to pay for its keep, it is shipped & when there is no longer any use for them, they are not longer bred & the breed becomes EXTINCT. There are many breeds of carriage/draught horses that no longer exist 'cos they lost their jobs. Horses are tougher than they look & easily adapt to the cold. Re being hungry: a horse will gorge itself until it colics or founders, which is why stabled ones are on tight feed schedules.
mtardiff 2 years ago 2
Utter BS horses where around way before cars
user9005 2 years ago
O.K. So what's the REAL reason these horse owners were targeted ???
Those horses looked just fine and healthy.
Just another PETA field op, trump up a bullshit story and bring the media with you to participate in the smear.
Hey PETA- I agree animals have their place, right next to the corn and mashed potatos...
P eople
E ating
T asty
A nimals
How do these morons think horses "coped" with cold weather for millions of years without treehuggers to "save" them ???
Smear campaign.
DanOblacksmith 2 years ago
THIS HORSE IS REALLY HUNGRY?!?! Who has known a horse that isnt!
downhomesunset 2 years ago
Ihave been to a barn that has had 'insufficient water and no food', just before dinner time. Horses poo and sometimes get it on thier legs and step on it so its in thier hooves. How many times have you been in an unheated barn full of horses? When the doors stay closed, its nice and warm. Who are these trainers who say horses cant live in the cold? I live in Alberta, so I must becruel for not shipping them to Florida every winter!
Those horses looked fine!
downhomesunset 2 years ago 2
@downhomesunset don't forget florida horsees who need to cool off in the summer.ar people are the unwitting tools of a shadow gov that wants all soverieingty removed, this is just another issue amongst many .
circusboy90210 10 months ago
These don't look thin or filthy... What's the deal?
My barn doesn't have heat, who's does?
This seems kinda nutty.
gypsyscometotown 2 years ago 3
my mom worked there bu she kept her stall clean n got her horse out like 3 days b4 this happened and wen we were tearing down the barn i took a dump in one of the stalls
backlash110 2 years ago
That is one of the issues with the AR movement most people dont see.They have twisted the laws so once they walk off with your loving pets (guilty or not) They are gone ! You have no right to get them back...The laws are badly written and People need to help get them STOPPED !
countryfuntime 2 years ago 9
The owners have sued the rescue to STOP the adoptions, but one was already adopted out. Stupid move by the rescue, it'll look really bad in court that they disregarded the owners rights.
Now the rescue is charging $10 a day PER HORSE board and is passive aggressively trying to prevent the owners' visits. I think if the owners are paying board, they have the right to take their horses elsewhere.
Sheepinwolfgarb 2 years ago 8
They are doing this all over the US under the color of the law.Doing it to Horse people,dog people,cat people .The ARA's have rubbed butts with the law makers to give them power and step all over Our Rights Rights.People need Stand up and FIGHT BACK ! THey are out of control !
countryfuntime 2 years ago 7
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Too late. The cutters horses are up for adoption now. We can your horses away...no problem.
wendysgoodfriend 2 years ago
Ridiculous crap. The ara's will not stop until we stop them. we can not let them take our animal away from us.
StopLiesSeeTruth 2 years ago 7
PS
NO ONE will be taking MY horses away!
StopLiesSeeTruth 2 years ago 5
this is utterly ridiculous. those horses looked to be in fine condition. a little mud on their legs is not the end of the world. they had shelter from the wind. so what if the shelter didn't have electricity or running water? i've been in many barns that didn't have power or water. it's not like you need power to run a furnace to keep them warm, and you can haul water from another location to fill water buckets.
i have to wonder what the real motivation was in seizing the horses.
sockses 2 years ago 5
@sockses an unheated barn is not cruel either.
circusboy90210 10 months ago
Another power play from HSUS who wants to abolish any animal ownership .
"We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of
livestock produced through selective breeding. One generation and out. We have
no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human
selective breeding. Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP of Humane Society of the US,
formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Animal People
countryfuntime 2 years ago 4
at least there is a happy ending!
Hpiddy645 2 years ago
I'll agree that the horses can take the cold pretty well, if they're in good condition. But if they're standing in mud all the time and being deprived of food and water, that isn't good.
I'm OK with carriage horses, but only if the horses are given plenty of water on warm days (on hot days, they shouldn't be out though) and allowed some break time on soft ground so they can urinate. Most horses won't pee on a hard surface since they don't like to splatter themselves.
dburrigh 2 years ago
OK, it does not sound good, with insufficient food and little water, I´ll agree.
But sorry, I have to disagree on the subject of the necessity of taking the horses away: the animals look good, and in general it should be known that HORSES CAN STAND COLD BETTER THAN HEAT. And all the walking in front of the carriage os good too; they´re "roaming animals". It suits them if it´s done rightly.
I think this "rescue mission" was an over-reaction.
FemaleFreedomSeeker 2 years ago 5
I agree on the over-reaction part...they looked fine :S Maybe the winter coat was covering the ribs from "starvation"???
doglover2112 2 years ago 5