EVERYONE knows that in boxing the winner is either the Black guy or the Irish guy... Ali is BOTH. Quite frankly any fight with a Black Irishman in it is a foregone conclusion no matter who he's up against. :)
isnt his white ancestors one of the reasons why he changed his name.
When he joined the Nation of Islam he shed his "slave name" (he had been named after a white abolitionist that had freed his slaves) and took on the new name of Muhammad Ali.
Not everyone in Africa are darkskinned. There are diff. shades of Black in Africa that arnt mixed. There are people of diff. shades/complexion. There are fair skinned people that are pure and not mixed. There are even Africans who are albino. its just some ppl who still have that mentality that Africans are darkskinned.
Irish n Italians were the poormen of Whites in the US in the 1900's. But Irish had it easier becuz most of them are fairskinned with blonde or red hair. So they could hide their Irish-ism by changing their surnames. While the Italian-americans were mostly slightly tanner n most have dark hair. So they were regarded as "blacks". Except they were feared becuz of affiliations with Mafia families..
He's a black Yank, not Irish, an Irish great great great grandad does not make you Irish as well, that's only one ancestor out of millions and millions of others from all over the world, no doubt. You can only be Irish if you were born and culturally bred there.
@Calengela Firstly there's a few things wrong with your statement, it was his great grandfather who was Irish, hence meaning his grandfather (who was alive in ali's lifetime) was 50% Irish, hence could be regarded as an Irish american. Secondly it's not just 1 out of a million...it means that 1/8 of all ali's ancestors were Irish, not just 1 in a million you dumb shite...if you go back a thousand years ali has thousands of ancestors who were Irish. Ali's not Irish, but he has alot of irish blood
@bangitslo high yellow , her family also has blue yes , green eyes , brown eyes , red hair , blond hair , dark hair yes her family comes in colors and feautures .Some people in guinea are mixed with hispanics and european my mom is a criollo means creole from africa .My dad is filipino , chinese , polynesian and arab .I am sick and tire of people who thinks all africans are pure black and they are very dark nothing wrong with that but that is not truth and my brother looks like a white men .
@lovesexpistols134 there are blacks in africa with fair skin,blonde hair who are PURE african,who have NEVER mixed wit another race.Truth is,all races come from african ppl,u can clearly see the chinese/asians got their looks from the bushmen,etc The Albino Gene came from african ppl thus 2day blacks can give birth to WHITE albino children.
@bangitslo what part of africa? because not all africans have very dark skin there are some africans with light skin not mixed , some africans are mixed, africans comes in all colors africans are very diverse .My mom is from guinea equtorial west africa over there they are mixed it was a spanish colony and they speak spanish.My mom is mixed with hispanic , fulani and white european her family comes in all colors , have straight hair , kinky hair , curly hair , white skin , brown skin
@lovesexpistols134 Ali's also got ancestors from Liberia. if they claiming his irish roots. why aint they claiming his Liberian roots? Anyways. it prob cuz back when Ali used to go on boxing tours, He went on boxing matches in Africa, specifically the central part of Africa (Zaire). If you watched the movie "Ali" you would prob get the picture. So i guess his experience back then when he went to Africa was kinda uncomfortable for him.
@babegurl821 ali has always spoke about his irish roots, but malcolm x had him believe it was a slave owner who raped his great great grandmother..turns out it was a slave owner who released her then married her, of course hes going to honour that
@EmeraldIsleStar Ali's great grandfather wasn't a slave owner at all, he was a poor Irish catholic who was dirt poor and went to America in a time when the blacks and Irish were oppressed (though irish werent quite as oppressed as blacks), he just happened to marry a black woman since he was seen as a second class citizen and probably felt more at home with them, I reckon alot of black americans (and I'm not talking bout biracials) have irish ancestry because of this
Ali has roots in two underdog cultures. The Irish were treated like dogs by the English, who occupied Ireland for centuries. Decades ago some English pubs had signs hanging outside reading No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish.
Ali isn't loved becasue he is rich; there are any number of wealthy people who are despised. He is loved because he has given the world so much simply by standing for principle rather than for profit.
In any case, it's tragic to see his body in its present condition.
Lovely. Almost like an episode of Roots, that genealogy. Ali's white ancestry at least came about consensually, by marriage (so they say). Most of us have to accept that it was probably some piece of shit rapist.
@99681655 ha what's vin diesel have to do with anything? yeah I know he's half black. However Tyson isn't half white, he might have European roots somewhere down the line I'm sure since he's a yank, but his dad isn't Irish
@99681655 Dont see what they have to do with anything, but Bruce lee is 1/4 german as a matter of fact, his maternal grandfather was german. Though if you dont believe me google it, most Irish presidents have had Irish heritage...all of the last presidents in the last century and the current one has had Irish roots, fact...obama, bush, clinton, kennedy..and all the other ones. Fact is, the irish rule the world
Many mixed-race are proud of who they are, as one never ceases to remind me that they are the best of the two worlds, and I believe him. Who knows?,....given another two milleniums the majority of the world's population will probably be of mixed parentage. We salute you ALI, whether African, American or Irish !!
muhammad ali is still the greatest and will always be the best it sad to hear that hes got parkinsons thumbs up for muhammad ali been the best ever boxer
why can't we acknowledge all of our ancestors: Regardless of the circumstances we all have ancestors that left the earth with the hope that they wre leaving a part of themselves behind, We all have ancestors who overcame unimaginable things, and our place in this modern world says it wasnt for nothing. Celebrate them from whereever they came from they have watched over you.
Lol... white folks will claim all successful black men is because of white people... wasn't like Mohammad Ali too much when he was calling out the whites as devils back in the day :)
@NooneNewer thats a bit rich, wot bout obama....u seem to think hes black, yet hes half white, ohh and wot about jackson, u were keen to distance urself from him when he was called a child molester but now that hes dead ur all jumping on his dick and saying hes one of u.....get fucked
@greatpunter Obama's a house negro in the white house, he's okay though I understand his position, he's playin the cards good. Michael just gave up on himself he never loved himself so he went crazy lol... still the greatest entertainer in history. I got nothing against white folks who are cool... but not the self centered idiots like you seem to be... and I don't get fucked, I get pussy... lost my virginity with a white girl. Lol. ;)
@greatpunter burdon to my race?... I been with some white girls quite a few times...i'm sure I got some white girls loving some black people now.. so, I dunno... which race would that burden?... some whites still hate blacks and hate race mixing and some black people would still say that the white man (and woman) is THE devil so either way i'd lose, right? Lol.
@NooneNewer Ali is only black in the USA. He would be considered "coloured" in South Africa, not black. We don't care about silly American views. Ali is a famous American boxer to Irish people. The fact that is "black" wont make a difference, he is a hero to people.
The thing is, we all know about the crap that happens in the USA but the USA is not the world. Read up on how other people live. The black people that live in Ireland have no issues living here...unlike your messed up country
@ardeestephen100 I know about the difference in different parts of the world... I've been outside of the borders multiple times, and wasn't born in the U.S. :) Doesn't change the facts though, Americans are certainly not the first white nation to try to suppress blacks... studying a little bit of history would show that easy.
@NooneNewer Irish people had been suppressed by English longer than blacks had by whites,....what's your point? Should I blame English people for everything that is wrong? Who were the first slaves in the caribean? Not blacks. Black suppressed blacks, Arabs suppressed blacks, what's the point you're making?
Everything might be black and white in the states but other more intelligent countries have more depth and we look beyond that. Black or white...you're just a dumb yank man to me man
@ardeestephen100 I've heard these silly comparisons before... Blacks may have fought blacks and whites may have fought whites and made each other endentured servants or enslaved each other but not to the degree that occurred in the United States or by Arabs and whites in Africa.
@ardeestephen100 The first slaves in the Carribean were blacks... to foolish whites just called them "Indians" because they were trying to get to India. Those "Arawaks" were mostly dark skinned folks. What about Australia... same thing... whites massacred the entire indigenous blacks there... they had sense enough to know they were not "Indians" that time. And now they have the nerve to have the motto "fuck off we're full"...
@Freshhhhh1982 I know the Irish have been mistreated by the fellow whites... but I don't know the details... were they actually slaves to the same degree as blacks or were they indentured servants?
@NooneNewer The first Irish that landed there were slaves in every way. Loads died on the way over and our pale complexion couldnt take the strong sun. At this time the British were committing genocide in Ireland, 3/4 of the country was colonized. We were the first modern European experiment with colonization, so we werent exactly held in high regard. When Africans slaves were brought over, the newer Irish would have been indentured servants.
@Freshhhhh1982 I see I didn't know that but just know that Irish weren't slaves to the same degree that blacks were subjected to here in the Americas. My apoligies for any real offense taken though...
@ardeestephen100 Maybe so but Africa had different shades of black since the times of the Ancient Egyptian Empire before white folks started coming down to Egypt to race mix... especially north africa, not all africans are dark black though most certainly are.
@Freshhhhh1982 My point is even you Irish wouldve been calling someone that looked like Muhmmad a "nigger" back then, so it's just interesting how you'd claim him now... could it be because of his celebrity status that will draw money into your neighborhoods when he visits?
@NooneNewer Irish Americans, probably. Native Irish, no. Big support for the black panthers here when your own governmen was trying to crush them. Murals of them all over west Belfast. There was ignorance here, but I can guarantee you it was just that, ignorance. Not true racism and nowhere near the level in the US or Britain.
It's obvious as Ali said that he's NOT fully Negro. Ever see his Mother. She looks White. Ali said he went to Africa and the people were so Black they were Purple. He wasn't trying to be funny. Africans that are of the Negroid race are very, very dark. They are closer to the equator. African Americans come in all colors because they are mixed with the white race. Even brown African Americans are mixed. True Africans of the Negroid race are very, very, very dark. Which isn't bad, it's just them.
@bangitslo lol not all Africans of the Negro race are dark skinned with wooly hair and full lips...just like how all europeans dont have blonde hair and blue eyes. way to much tv my friend lol
beleive it or not, my name is Jack Grady and i think its a great thing for myself and family to hear this, we had some good laughs about this, and think...no wonder we like to fight so much. plus im making my pro debut in the near future, but to do even half what this man did, is good enough for me. Ali, we blood brothers--your the greatest-
he once thought his irish roots came from an irish slave owner raping his great grandmother, which wasnt true. malcolm x indoctrinated a little hate into ali back then
Thats true most of the Irish in the U.S. were far to poor and could not even have slaves.However many Irish worked like slaves themselves working in coal mines.
@blaklagoon1 Yes, but didn't Ali take the side of the FOI instead of Malcolm X. I could be wrong on that but I think Ali did take the side opposite of Malcolm X.
@xxdonaldqxx Oh yes that is true but Malcolm was enlightened about the true nature of the NOI before Ali. It wasn't until after Malcolm's death did Ali open his eyes to the truth.
@blaklagoon1 And for that Malcom was murdered by Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad. Malcom discovered that Muslims were White, Tan, Black, Brown - All colors. Malcom also didn't approve of Elijah having young teenage wives. Ali wised up and became a Sunni Muslim.
@bangitslo Well, actually, Ali's family had to talk him into not staying with the NOI, and following Imam W. D. Muhammad, Elijah's 7th son. Ali truly believed that Elijah was the messenger of Allah. And Ali actually visited Farrakhan's mosque a few years back and gave him a big hug.
Amazing man. He is really "the Greatest". When I was a kid, my father always used Muhammad as THE example of strenght, fairness, equal rights. He was the hero for my father, he is to me, and he will be to my kids too.
Neither would YOU if you lived in Lousiville, Kentucky in the 1950's and early 1960's where, as a BLACK MAN, you were not allowed to eat in certain restaurants, go to certain cinemas, travel at the front of a bus and so on due to the racially segregated Jim Crow laws which existed at the time.
He may be one-eighth Irish but he is still a BLACK MAN - and was treated so.
dont bother with the Jim Crow yadda yadda we know about it,This is about the man's ancestry which is not all African.Why use the fractions? He has Irish ancestry.He is proud of it. You can be a black person and still acknowledge your European roots!
@jjuuoi It's true, I am a black man myself and I still have roots that link to Europe and China. Everyone of us of different race and nationality have connections to ancestors all around the world. Even people in Southeast Asia have roots going back to Africa. That is why I believe that if you destroy an ancient relic or landmark of one persons heritage, you destroy the heritage of all people.
Exactly, nobody should be surprised at these things, eg, I look white to many people but my late father was black from the Caribbean, it's not something that I've ever tried to deliberately keep secret, far from it, it's just that few ask, most (even black people) ironically assume, despite my light tan and frizzy hair that I'm white, so I say nothing, if they did ask I'd tell them that I'm actually half black, mixed-race but they seldom do, my late mother was from Ireland :)
he thought his irish ancestors were slave owners at the time. thats why he didnt acknowledge his irish blood. turns out they were not slave owners, just an irish man and a black woman met up an got married, she was a freed slave.
@elshowgun15 Thats because they filled his head with racist propaganda. At some point however after Malcolm X was killed he renounced his ways and changed his abandoned his racist views.
wtf anyone who be come femus... irish
Ronnii1000 1 week ago
Irish r better than english. Very wise and kind.
FrapsYou 3 weeks ago
@FrapsYou please dont talk shit
alanmeires 1 day ago
though ireland is the fucking ghetto of europe
FRIGIN05 2 months ago
@FRIGIN05 it is, Muhammed Ali is straight up ghetto
noorur 1 month ago
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MrShrimples 1 month ago
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@FRIGIN05 correction, Balkan is the fucking ghetto of Europe
MrShrimples 1 month ago
@FRIGIN05 considering ireland has one of the highest standard of living and income in europe i dont understand how you came to that conclusion?
seankinsellasean 1 week ago
The world is ruled by the irish? ...... HAHAHAHAHHAHA
D3Inno 2 months ago
Next he'll find his African roots in Ghana
319am1 3 months ago
"Luck of the Irish" had nothing to do with it.
EVERYONE knows that in boxing the winner is either the Black guy or the Irish guy... Ali is BOTH. Quite frankly any fight with a Black Irishman in it is a foregone conclusion no matter who he's up against. :)
thirteenfingers 3 months ago
This just proves that eveyone who has Irish roots jumps at the chance to explore them!
bridgetoofar2 4 months ago
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there are many black people who have white blood
boywaimea 4 months ago
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isnt his white ancestors one of the reasons why he changed his name.
When he joined the Nation of Islam he shed his "slave name" (he had been named after a white abolitionist that had freed his slaves) and took on the new name of Muhammad Ali.
babegurl821 4 months ago
Not everyone in Africa are darkskinned. There are diff. shades of Black in Africa that arnt mixed. There are people of diff. shades/complexion. There are fair skinned people that are pure and not mixed. There are even Africans who are albino. its just some ppl who still have that mentality that Africans are darkskinned.
babegurl821 4 months ago
Irish n Italians were the poormen of Whites in the US in the 1900's. But Irish had it easier becuz most of them are fairskinned with blonde or red hair. So they could hide their Irish-ism by changing their surnames. While the Italian-americans were mostly slightly tanner n most have dark hair. So they were regarded as "blacks". Except they were feared becuz of affiliations with Mafia families..
destroyxeverything 4 months ago
He's a black Yank, not Irish, an Irish great great great grandad does not make you Irish as well, that's only one ancestor out of millions and millions of others from all over the world, no doubt. You can only be Irish if you were born and culturally bred there.
Calengela 5 months ago
@Calengela Firstly there's a few things wrong with your statement, it was his great grandfather who was Irish, hence meaning his grandfather (who was alive in ali's lifetime) was 50% Irish, hence could be regarded as an Irish american. Secondly it's not just 1 out of a million...it means that 1/8 of all ali's ancestors were Irish, not just 1 in a million you dumb shite...if you go back a thousand years ali has thousands of ancestors who were Irish. Ali's not Irish, but he has alot of irish blood
MyMadra 2 months ago
Not every african looks like like alec wek
lovesexpistols134 5 months ago
@bangitslo high yellow , her family also has blue yes , green eyes , brown eyes , red hair , blond hair , dark hair yes her family comes in colors and feautures .Some people in guinea are mixed with hispanics and european my mom is a criollo means creole from africa .My dad is filipino , chinese , polynesian and arab .I am sick and tire of people who thinks all africans are pure black and they are very dark nothing wrong with that but that is not truth and my brother looks like a white men .
lovesexpistols134 5 months ago
@lovesexpistols134 there are blacks in africa with fair skin,blonde hair who are PURE african,who have NEVER mixed wit another race.Truth is,all races come from african ppl,u can clearly see the chinese/asians got their looks from the bushmen,etc The Albino Gene came from african ppl thus 2day blacks can give birth to WHITE albino children.
Netertaat 5 months ago
@bangitslo what part of africa? because not all africans have very dark skin there are some africans with light skin not mixed , some africans are mixed, africans comes in all colors africans are very diverse .My mom is from guinea equtorial west africa over there they are mixed it was a spanish colony and they speak spanish.My mom is mixed with hispanic , fulani and white european her family comes in all colors , have straight hair , kinky hair , curly hair , white skin , brown skin
lovesexpistols134 5 months ago
@lovesexpistols134 Ali's also got ancestors from Liberia. if they claiming his irish roots. why aint they claiming his Liberian roots? Anyways. it prob cuz back when Ali used to go on boxing tours, He went on boxing matches in Africa, specifically the central part of Africa (Zaire). If you watched the movie "Ali" you would prob get the picture. So i guess his experience back then when he went to Africa was kinda uncomfortable for him.
babegurl821 4 months ago
@babegurl821 ali has always spoke about his irish roots, but malcolm x had him believe it was a slave owner who raped his great great grandmother..turns out it was a slave owner who released her then married her, of course hes going to honour that
EmeraldIsleStar 4 months ago
@EmeraldIsleStar Ali's great grandfather wasn't a slave owner at all, he was a poor Irish catholic who was dirt poor and went to America in a time when the blacks and Irish were oppressed (though irish werent quite as oppressed as blacks), he just happened to marry a black woman since he was seen as a second class citizen and probably felt more at home with them, I reckon alot of black americans (and I'm not talking bout biracials) have irish ancestry because of this
MyMadra 2 months ago
The irish will claim martin luther king if they knew he was also part irish , martin luther king great grandpa was irish
lovesexpistols134 5 months ago
What about africa? black people
lovesexpistols134 5 months ago
Ali has roots in two underdog cultures. The Irish were treated like dogs by the English, who occupied Ireland for centuries. Decades ago some English pubs had signs hanging outside reading No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish.
Ali isn't loved becasue he is rich; there are any number of wealthy people who are despised. He is loved because he has given the world so much simply by standing for principle rather than for profit.
In any case, it's tragic to see his body in its present condition.
bapyou 7 months ago
@bapyou
he talked about his irish grandad as if he was a rapist.
topbluffa1 6 months ago
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@topbluffa1 "he talked about his irish grandad as if he was a rapist."
His Irish grandad probably was a rapist.
But then, rape was a commonplace reality in the American institution of chattel slavery.
bapyou 6 months ago
My grandparents on my mum and dad side are from mayo.. IRISH AND PROUD X
xlollypopbabex 7 months ago
fightin' irish!
angrywinds 8 months ago
If it was a rape she would hardly have adopted her rapist's surname, she had to have married him for her maiden name to become O'Grady.
Anyway check this interesting related talk show interview clip with the great man from 1978;
youtube.com/watch?v=ZM74gz61c3Y&feature=related
KenfromDublin 8 months ago
You'll never beat the Irish!
KenfromDublin 8 months ago 8
Lovely. Almost like an episode of Roots, that genealogy. Ali's white ancestry at least came about consensually, by marriage (so they say). Most of us have to accept that it was probably some piece of shit rapist.
madmax8903 9 months ago
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KenfromDublin 8 months ago
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KenfromDublin 8 months ago
now that he is a legend they claim him....lol....say no more
juicemacky1 9 months ago
mike tysons father irish now ali ancestry are irish
respect irish blood
99681655 9 months ago 8
@99681655 Mike tyson's father isn't Irish
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra lol do u know vin diesel ??
his half black
and u just need to watch the irish boxers
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 ha what's vin diesel have to do with anything? yeah I know he's half black. However Tyson isn't half white, he might have European roots somewhere down the line I'm sure since he's a yank, but his dad isn't Irish
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra ok irish people are gay )))
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 yet people of irish heritage rule the world, every U.S president has had Irish heritage
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra and hitler genghis khan bruce lee and chuck norris had irish heritage
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 Dont see what they have to do with anything, but Bruce lee is 1/4 german as a matter of fact, his maternal grandfather was german. Though if you dont believe me google it, most Irish presidents have had Irish heritage...all of the last presidents in the last century and the current one has had Irish roots, fact...obama, bush, clinton, kennedy..and all the other ones. Fact is, the irish rule the world
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra bro do u know
is jesus christ had irish heritage ?
yes irish heritage ruling world
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 Jesus Christ never ruled the world dumbass, also Jesus is over 2000 years old. The present day is ruled by the Irish, fact
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra julius cesar had irish heritage too
his dancing on festival
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 You seem to be in a bit of a loop hole
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra allah and boudha had irish heritage too . no joke!!!
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 again with your little loop, I'm actually cringing for you
MyMadra 2 months ago
@MyMadra hahahahah
99681655 2 months ago
@99681655 i'm an o'grady, i wonder if there's any relation, i hope to try and find out one day
MURKYDEEP100 2 months ago
Skill put down to luck - what a thick comment!!
MrSuperkrap 9 months ago
Many mixed-race are proud of who they are, as one never ceases to remind me that they are the best of the two worlds, and I believe him. Who knows?,....given another two milleniums the majority of the world's population will probably be of mixed parentage. We salute you ALI, whether African, American or Irish !!
macvatu 10 months ago
How Interesting..Ali with Irish roots. Im an ex-fighter Huge boxing fan for
40 yrs,,,,,,,,,,and never heard of this,,,Life is amazing...
mgrealdeals 10 months ago
what a man !!! fuck this disease, he was and will be the greatest
dfdgfdgf0000 10 months ago
Ali is ireland til he died!!!
iamkendrick 10 months ago
Ali is Ireland til he dies!!!
iamkendrick 10 months ago
black man with grey hair ???? definately irish roots when he looks like a pint of guiness anyway
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As a black man & a Muslim myself, i've always respected the Irish.
They have a history of being exploited & colonised, they know what it means. It's in their history.
Until all people respect eachother, there will never be peace.
1LaneOnly 11 months ago
muhammad ali is still the greatest and will always be the best it sad to hear that hes got parkinsons thumbs up for muhammad ali been the best ever boxer
LukeA1994 11 months ago
why can't we acknowledge all of our ancestors: Regardless of the circumstances we all have ancestors that left the earth with the hope that they wre leaving a part of themselves behind, We all have ancestors who overcame unimaginable things, and our place in this modern world says it wasnt for nothing. Celebrate them from whereever they came from they have watched over you.
celticqueen0206 11 months ago 2
This is fitting.
In a few century's Ireland will be all Muslims and Blacks anyways.
CrociatoAzzurro 1 year ago
Lol... white folks will claim all successful black men is because of white people... wasn't like Mohammad Ali too much when he was calling out the whites as devils back in the day :)
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer thats a bit rich, wot bout obama....u seem to think hes black, yet hes half white, ohh and wot about jackson, u were keen to distance urself from him when he was called a child molester but now that hes dead ur all jumping on his dick and saying hes one of u.....get fucked
greatpunter 1 year ago
@greatpunter Obama's a house negro in the white house, he's okay though I understand his position, he's playin the cards good. Michael just gave up on himself he never loved himself so he went crazy lol... still the greatest entertainer in history. I got nothing against white folks who are cool... but not the self centered idiots like you seem to be... and I don't get fucked, I get pussy... lost my virginity with a white girl. Lol. ;)
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer man u talk som shit, ur a burdon to your race u uncle tom
greatpunter 1 year ago
@greatpunter Lol. When you lose you switch sides huh?...
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer ummm no
greatpunter 1 year ago
@greatpunter burdon to my race?... I been with some white girls quite a few times...i'm sure I got some white girls loving some black people now.. so, I dunno... which race would that burden?... some whites still hate blacks and hate race mixing and some black people would still say that the white man (and woman) is THE devil so either way i'd lose, right? Lol.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer yer like i said a burdon
greatpunter 1 year ago
@greatpunter Perhaps i'm a burden (not burdon) to some figment of your imagination... but you've proven yourself to be a fool.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer no burdon......to some figure of my imagination,, ya ya heard that one before now bugga ouff (fool)
greatpunter 1 year ago
@NooneNewer Ali is only black in the USA. He would be considered "coloured" in South Africa, not black. We don't care about silly American views. Ali is a famous American boxer to Irish people. The fact that is "black" wont make a difference, he is a hero to people.
The thing is, we all know about the crap that happens in the USA but the USA is not the world. Read up on how other people live. The black people that live in Ireland have no issues living here...unlike your messed up country
ardeestephen100 1 year ago
@ardeestephen100 I know about the difference in different parts of the world... I've been outside of the borders multiple times, and wasn't born in the U.S. :) Doesn't change the facts though, Americans are certainly not the first white nation to try to suppress blacks... studying a little bit of history would show that easy.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer Irish people had been suppressed by English longer than blacks had by whites,....what's your point? Should I blame English people for everything that is wrong? Who were the first slaves in the caribean? Not blacks. Black suppressed blacks, Arabs suppressed blacks, what's the point you're making?
Everything might be black and white in the states but other more intelligent countries have more depth and we look beyond that. Black or white...you're just a dumb yank man to me man
ardeestephen100 1 year ago
@ardeestephen100 I've heard these silly comparisons before... Blacks may have fought blacks and whites may have fought whites and made each other endentured servants or enslaved each other but not to the degree that occurred in the United States or by Arabs and whites in Africa.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer Anywhere in the "new world" south of Canada I might add.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@ardeestephen100 The first slaves in the Carribean were blacks... to foolish whites just called them "Indians" because they were trying to get to India. Those "Arawaks" were mostly dark skinned folks. What about Australia... same thing... whites massacred the entire indigenous blacks there... they had sense enough to know they were not "Indians" that time. And now they have the nerve to have the motto "fuck off we're full"...
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer First slaves in the Carribean were Irish. Fact.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
@Freshhhhh1982 I know the Irish have been mistreated by the fellow whites... but I don't know the details... were they actually slaves to the same degree as blacks or were they indentured servants?
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer The first Irish that landed there were slaves in every way. Loads died on the way over and our pale complexion couldnt take the strong sun. At this time the British were committing genocide in Ireland, 3/4 of the country was colonized. We were the first modern European experiment with colonization, so we werent exactly held in high regard. When Africans slaves were brought over, the newer Irish would have been indentured servants.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
@Freshhhhh1982 I see I didn't know that but just know that Irish weren't slaves to the same degree that blacks were subjected to here in the Americas. My apoligies for any real offense taken though...
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@ardeestephen100 Maybe so but Africa had different shades of black since the times of the Ancient Egyptian Empire before white folks started coming down to Egypt to race mix... especially north africa, not all africans are dark black though most certainly are.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer Nope. Theres a few videos of Ali when he was with the nation and he was on Irish TV. We'll claim our own.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
@Freshhhhh1982 My point is even you Irish wouldve been calling someone that looked like Muhmmad a "nigger" back then, so it's just interesting how you'd claim him now... could it be because of his celebrity status that will draw money into your neighborhoods when he visits?
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@NooneNewer Irish Americans, probably. Native Irish, no. Big support for the black panthers here when your own governmen was trying to crush them. Murals of them all over west Belfast. There was ignorance here, but I can guarantee you it was just that, ignorance. Not true racism and nowhere near the level in the US or Britain.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
may Allah bless you mohamed Ali
yasmin59596 1 year ago
"blackman"
WOW How the PRIMITIVE CULTURE LESS SAVAGES can NOT distinguish between race & colour.
No such race as BLACK/WHITE/YELLOW. hehehhehehe
Just goes to show the BIGOTRY & IGNORANCE by these colonized assimilated, ancestors of SLAVES. & others.
Be civilized learn culture & heritage, then you have ENTERED the CIVILIZED WORLD.
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 1 year ago
ali story is so simmilar to so many blacks in this country. i gues we all or most of us blacks have white blood in us. didnt you see roots?
veeseee128 1 year ago
Still the greatest and always will be.
bornState 1 year ago
It's obvious as Ali said that he's NOT fully Negro. Ever see his Mother. She looks White. Ali said he went to Africa and the people were so Black they were Purple. He wasn't trying to be funny. Africans that are of the Negroid race are very, very dark. They are closer to the equator. African Americans come in all colors because they are mixed with the white race. Even brown African Americans are mixed. True Africans of the Negroid race are very, very, very dark. Which isn't bad, it's just them.
bangitslo 1 year ago
@bangitslo
maybe it's 1950 where you are but "negro" doesn't really fly anymore
Robstailey 1 year ago
@bangitslo YOUR TALKING SHIT. There are many African races check Fulanis they are Africans some have straight hair green eyes etc.
You watch too much tarzan learn about African races before being insultive with your ignorant bigotry.
Not all africans are dark skinned they vary just like not all europeans are pale skinned.
sexymalcom1970 1 year ago
@bangitslo lol not all Africans of the Negro race are dark skinned with wooly hair and full lips...just like how all europeans dont have blonde hair and blue eyes. way to much tv my friend lol
djbnice7 1 year ago
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MrPozzoz
10 months ago 4
He was young and impeteous ... when he got older he calmed down saw the wider picture ....
MrJc1954 1 year ago
My god.....he does not look in good shape.
Flipper79able 1 year ago
i want to have a dinner with the greatest of all time
MichaeljacksonAFG 2 years ago
beleive it or not, my name is Jack Grady and i think its a great thing for myself and family to hear this, we had some good laughs about this, and think...no wonder we like to fight so much. plus im making my pro debut in the near future, but to do even half what this man did, is good enough for me. Ali, we blood brothers--your the greatest-
eaoutlawz21 2 years ago
half??? are you serious , . to be a quarter would be amazing ,. it would make you famous
SA2137 2 years ago 2
i want meet muhammad ali
cowogatal 2 years ago 3
lol at parkisons, he now hits faster than the eye
Masterfuryx 2 years ago
Muhammad Ali the fighting Irishman.You gotta love it.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago 2
In this corner, wearing dark trunks, he weighs 245 lbs, the fomer three-time HWCOTW, Irish-Ali MCPherson. McPherson.
lumpagogo 2 years ago
He hated the name Clay and called it his slave name.He used to call white people devils.Maybe the man now has a change of heart.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
he once thought his irish roots came from an irish slave owner raping his great grandmother, which wasnt true. malcolm x indoctrinated a little hate into ali back then
IrelandRaven 1 year ago
Thats true most of the Irish in the U.S. were far to poor and could not even have slaves.However many Irish worked like slaves themselves working in coal mines.
xxdonaldqxx 1 year ago
@xxdonaldqxx Like Malcolm X he saw the harmful racist nature of the nation of islam and so he changed his views.
blaklagoon1 1 year ago
@blaklagoon1 Yes, but didn't Ali take the side of the FOI instead of Malcolm X. I could be wrong on that but I think Ali did take the side opposite of Malcolm X.
xxdonaldqxx 1 year ago
@xxdonaldqxx Oh yes that is true but Malcolm was enlightened about the true nature of the NOI before Ali. It wasn't until after Malcolm's death did Ali open his eyes to the truth.
blaklagoon1 1 year ago
@blaklagoon1 And for that Malcom was murdered by Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad. Malcom discovered that Muslims were White, Tan, Black, Brown - All colors. Malcom also didn't approve of Elijah having young teenage wives. Ali wised up and became a Sunni Muslim.
bangitslo 1 year ago
@bangitslo Correct!
blaklagoon1 1 year ago
@bangitslo Well, actually, Ali's family had to talk him into not staying with the NOI, and following Imam W. D. Muhammad, Elijah's 7th son. Ali truly believed that Elijah was the messenger of Allah. And Ali actually visited Farrakhan's mosque a few years back and gave him a big hug.
akaDScott 1 year ago
0:26----hes still pretty
mtl009 2 years ago 3
Amazing man. He is really "the Greatest". When I was a kid, my father always used Muhammad as THE example of strenght, fairness, equal rights. He was the hero for my father, he is to me, and he will be to my kids too.
rolibrother 2 years ago 4
He wasn't Loving his Irish heritage when he was in the nation
elshowgun15 2 years ago
Neither would YOU if you lived in Lousiville, Kentucky in the 1950's and early 1960's where, as a BLACK MAN, you were not allowed to eat in certain restaurants, go to certain cinemas, travel at the front of a bus and so on due to the racially segregated Jim Crow laws which existed at the time.
He may be one-eighth Irish but he is still a BLACK MAN - and was treated so.
BoltJam 2 years ago 6
Boltjam
dont bother with the Jim Crow yadda yadda we know about it,This is about the man's ancestry which is not all African.Why use the fractions? He has Irish ancestry.He is proud of it. You can be a black person and still acknowledge your European roots!
jjuuoi 2 years ago 18
@jjuuoi No such thing as European roots... more like European branches.
NooneNewer 1 year ago
@jjuuoi It's true, I am a black man myself and I still have roots that link to Europe and China. Everyone of us of different race and nationality have connections to ancestors all around the world. Even people in Southeast Asia have roots going back to Africa. That is why I believe that if you destroy an ancient relic or landmark of one persons heritage, you destroy the heritage of all people.
sheltv100 11 months ago
@sheltv100
Exactly, nobody should be surprised at these things, eg, I look white to many people but my late father was black from the Caribbean, it's not something that I've ever tried to deliberately keep secret, far from it, it's just that few ask, most (even black people) ironically assume, despite my light tan and frizzy hair that I'm white, so I say nothing, if they did ask I'd tell them that I'm actually half black, mixed-race but they seldom do, my late mother was from Ireland :)
proff180 10 months ago
He was young and impeteous ... when he got older he calmed down saw the wider picture ....
MrPozzoz 2 years ago 4
he was talking smack when he was in his 30's..do you call that young?
elshowgun15 2 years ago
he thought his irish ancestors were slave owners at the time. thats why he didnt acknowledge his irish blood. turns out they were not slave owners, just an irish man and a black woman met up an got married, she was a freed slave.
TheRealFatShiney 2 years ago
@elshowgun15 If you're 95 that's young! (smile)
bangitslo 1 year ago
@elshowgun15 Thats because they filled his head with racist propaganda. At some point however after Malcolm X was killed he renounced his ways and changed his abandoned his racist views.
blaklagoon1 1 year ago
his name is mohammed not ali , they sould call him like that .
ensserdo 2 years ago
its muhammad ali not mohammed ali
mudklot 2 years ago
Muhammad O'lee ? :)
wrjamescom 2 years ago 30
@wrjamescom haha TOO FUNNY! LMAO!
akaDScott 1 year ago