@Trx420fm1 no ford 2500 and up r still c channel along with chevy 4500 made for work this is the first year for chevys hd to have a box frame fail they r also good for roting out from the inside and having thiner steel walls so c channel is more made for work still . Try again bo
hahaha toyota fails again stephen4177 you haven't learned that toyota fails yet you have watched every toyota comparison on you tube hahahaha you TROLL
WOW!! Great frame, now maybe they can take the frame engineers off that project and put them on the motor. Whats the point of having a frame if the motor can't get you there. My Expedition has cost me hundreds for the weak heads they put on the motor 5.4L . That SUV / Truck blows plugs like they planned it. Hey, Can I just buy the frame ? Thanks. LOL
The c channel flexs we know look under any hd truck chevy ford dodge hd all have c channel frames there made to twist .my work has chevy4500 , it twistes like crazy me jumping on the steps twist the box and the cab like there independent its freaky but its always broken not the frame the truck peice of shit
Toyota needs to box off the tundra frames, a more rigid frame makes the suspension do more work, the frame won't shake, and the truck won't get thrown around. This should make better ride quality.
@omar53333 maybe combined they do but not one on one,,out of the top 10 ford has 3 spots chevy 2 ,,dodge 1 ,,toyota 2 ,,honda 1 ,,nissan 1...6 domestics out of 4 imports..i think domestics are ahead..,,long live the big3
@390merc65 yup, but all of the ''big three'' are after the ''imports'' first toyota, then nissan, then honda, then ford, then chev and dodge. so, once they are in the list, they are in the last places of the list dude.
@omar53333 ..where is this mythical info you are getting?..how can the imports be on top when THEE number one selling spot go's to the ford?...number 2,,chevy ..so tell me how all imports are before.the domestics?,,and yes toyota sucks...any more questions?
@omar53333 i just check your sources ..and as i said the ford f series outsells any and all other vehicles on 4 wheels..the camry is in 3rd with the best selling car..not total sold vehicles..the top spot still go's to the ford f series ,,second is the chevy ..out of the top [10] ford has 3 vehicles toyota 2 honda 1 and it barely beet the fusion as the article says ,,nissan 1 spot .so i dont know were you see in the same list i am reading that imports kill domestics in sales ??????
@omar53333 car sales?..yes toyota beats ford..but the fusion is very close to nissan and the fusion is right behind honda..but in this article from your sources the honda only beat ford by 5000 units and thats nothing..and the honda has 2 cars in that segment to share sales,,so with all of this info i dont see how imports dominate car sales..sales for ford and honda are real close so how do imports own car sales??..
@omar53333 speaking of car sale.i think the fusion did very well seeing its the new kid on the block..how long is the camry out to the ford?,,and if you count only the accord to fusion the fusion sales more.so all in all the fusion did well .sorry..after looking at sales #'s i diont see the huge spike in sales of were imports kill american cars ,THEE #1 spot go's to ford for all out sales above all other's,,car or truck.and i dont even see toyota trucks on this at all..they are bottom feeder's
@omar53333 and by reading your info ...going by your info ..the top 10 worst vehciles there isnt a ford even on the list..this is the segment that the imports dominate,,9 out of 10 worst sellers go to imports...only 1 belongs to domestics ...sorry dude..i dont make up this figures,,thats just the way it is ,,camry does sell the most cars but only gets it to the #3 spot ..you cant argue,..out of the top 10 sales..ford has 3 vehicles in this segment ,,more then any other manufacture
@390merc65 we are going arround circles, i said camry, accord and altima are the top 3 car sellers, imports being in worst sellers doesnt mean nothing, i bet no toyota, nissan or honda is in that list.
just like a discussion i had about a guy with the corvette ZR1, sticking in something im not arguing.
just forget it ok, anyway the top 1 more sold car is the Camry, end.
@omar53333 what circles?...you did not show me anything i did not know..this all started cuzz you said imports kills american cars..and i pointed out they they do not..the camry is the top selling car..thats a no brainer,,,but my point was,,out of the 10 ford has more in the 10 then nissan toyota or honda for top sales..the honda is only ahead of fusion by a few sales..nothing to brag about..and i said honda has 2 car making up those sales..but fusion to accord.,fusion sold more
Wow this Guy is a horrible speaker.....the Ford ahhhhh vs ahhhhh the ahhhhhh tundraaaaaaaaa they couldn't find any one better ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
under normal uses the raptor frames wouldnt bend. It was at a raptor run and they where going 60mph plus and hitting some big air and logs. Thats what caused it, 4 inches of up travel. Lets see a tundra go 60 in some whoops and not bend something
@mistermamaluigi idi not say that they were not bilt in america i said that ford did not have the ball to compete with a nother american brand they had to pick on the jap pice of shit
@Skulls832 wow a couple of type os let me redo that i did not say that ford was not built in america what i was saying that ford does not have the balls to compete with another american brand like chevy or dodge they had to go pick on the pos tundra
@Skulls832 yeah, after watching them compare f-150 to nissan, toyota, dodge, and chevy, dodges frame was smaller, chev's not even fully boxed, no second wall to weld cross members through to keep frame from bending so much,smaller as well, was only one to have the good handling of aluminum suspension,and some of competition's tow hooks were a joke, and ford only one to have a full frame around engine,chev only 1 to have none,ford has best in class fuel economy,would go on running out of letters.
blah blah blah put it to the test, put the load on the trucks and drive them over ramps to test the bending...u may need to fix the fords frame and or box and tailgate...
Chk The Ford Raptor bend frames videos. . .Shocking Just under rear suspension it goes suggie and bends, not cool of ford regarding to Toyota frame when it uses diffrent filosify and Ford does not help Raptor owners to solwe upcoming trubel na , Just 800$ bill extra too fix there own fail cunstruckted frame, Not big deal.
-But i newer seen big semi truck being stiff in there frame they dont like things that snaps appart....flex is an other way off strength....
youre never gonna sway biased people, so from my unbiased Australian point-of-view, the Tundra chassis seems way too soft. And yes, youre right about having too much stiffness, but the Ford did seem to have some twist. I would definately go with the Ford. Tundra looks good, but it all seems like smoke and mirrors.....Why Paul Jr bought a few of them is beyond me......
@TheMechanicMan30. And if you would care to do your research, kid, then you would easily find that the reason they rusted was because the company that Toyota had doing them skipped some processes. Some did pass, because of how they were taken care of and what location they lived in. My dads ranger has 70k miles and the frame has been welded on it from rusting, and an uncle of mine has welded his frame twice...big crack from rust...and its a ford. Ford make it right with them. NO! Toyota FTW!
I preffer to drive a solid built truck and don't make excuses for my short comings by compairing trucks to airplanes. Yes lastyear Tundra was tough to beat but with the new Ford motors they now have competition inthe half ton market that they will have a tough time catching up with. I have never wanted an F150 because the motors were underpowered especially for the well built solid truck it was in that outweighed everything in its class. But now I wouldnt Trade my max tow ecoboost for anything.
Obviously a biased video. Stiff is not always a good thing. Think of an aircraft wing in rough air. Flex is a good thing. If the frame is stiff it is more susceptible to stress and cracks.
No matter what Ford dose there trucks still suck. Raptors frames getting bent while offroad. Ill stick with the tundra and have the frame flex then being bent like a ford
@JordanMH1234 Do your research buddy, those where only 4 Raptors out of all of the Raptors sold, and they swapped out the Fox Racing Shocks for their own. There's a reason that the F150 is the number one selling truck out there. Screw imports, only Americans can make real trucks.
What good is a strong frame if your truck doesn't run? Oh I get it ,when the tow truck picks it up then the frame gets a good work out!! Such bullshit, I haven't bent my frame and I beat on my truck! Tundra's rock!
hehe because its not even a tundra frame its a taco frame....its funny too cause the guy was smart enough to only call it a toyota frame but then elaborated on the specs of the ford as an F-150 frame...i guess they didnt want to compare a tacoma to a ranger
When Toyota introduced the latest model Tundra, it was when we were first seeing 1/2 ton capabilities reaching into the previous model 3/4 ton trucks. Some flex is good for bearing heavy loads. Fully boxed was unheard of on HDs until this model year. While this guy is talking about how fully boxed is superior, Ford is building all of their Super Duty trucks on c-channels. My Tundra does have a choppy ride when unloaded; but I got it to take my boat to the lake, not my grandma to church.
@stephen4177..you do realize that a substantial amount of Toyota Tacoma frames' from the year 1995 all the way up to 2004 deteriorate and rust away disgustingly. That was a BIG fuck up in terms of frame quality..so how does anyone even think they have the right to even bring up fords 10 measly raptor frame issues when comparing to Toyota..DO YOUR RESEARCH KID!
@TheMechanicman30 agreed 100% and under normal uses the raptor frames wouldnt bend. It was at a raptor run and they where going 60mph plus and hitting some big air and logs. Thats what caused it, 4 inches of up travel. Lets see a tundra go 60 in some whoops and not bend something
No I agree it's not same but you have to admit saying all Fords are great would be foul statement. Ranger is weak for price they want for them and being 1989 design lol. My nissan is not weak, my toyota's not weak well except for suspensions. I myself do not want full size truck I only tow and haul maybe once month. Chev and Fords mid size truck bottom of barrel seem really over priced. Now if they where half price yota or nissan I would not say a thing, regular cab ranger for $17k base?
Yes but Ford has brought lousy lousy cars in past, people are crushing old explorer with v6 german designed motor. While jeep xjs are still going strong! Ranger sucks if Ford thinks that truck is ok even sold loaded for $16k there crazzzyyyy. 1989 style. Nissan and toyota still killing them
@superhawkn not trying to be a dick here but you realize that the ranger isnt really a full truck, with that i agree, but its more for weekend warriors doing a small renovation on there house. its for the people who really dont need a full truck like the f-150 and or up. dont mean to be a dick but i thought ya might like to know.
Notsure if subframe connectors would work right.when towing it might distribute the weight on the frame right.causing to pressure on the rear point .its made to flex for a reason I have a,crew max it rides just fine on,and off road
metal is metal if you bend it over time it will break... so the less flex the longer it will last... all those of you out there that no nothing about steal or metal shut the F#ck ford has the strongest frame and thats a fact so shut up dont right me saying flex doesnt weaken metal... go back to school if you dont know that!!!
@JOHNNYSschool What you said about metal is not that simple and not necessarily true, and what you said about Ford having the "strongest" frame is not true. More rigid frame that the Tundra? Definitely. Stronger than the Tundra? No. As I mentioned in my reply to xilix below, F-150 Raptors are having issues of frame failure from routine off road driving. Google "raptorforumz frame bending" and read up on what people have been reporting. Google "Tundra frame bending" and there are no hits.
@cashmab Raptor is a factory pre runner truck. $100.00 aftermarket bolt on fix for the Raptor frame problem. Some people don't have the problem with the Raptor and some do. It all depends on how far you want to push the truck. Can't compare a Tundra to a Raptor. Only reason the Tundra came out was to compete against US full size truck market. I have never had a frame problem with my Ford's.
Both of these trucks could have similar towing and payload capabilities. The difference is in ride quality especially on rough roads. How can you use your frame to help isolate NVH when the frame is constantly bending and warping itself. I have a 2004 chevy 1500 with a C-Channel frame. It rides like a wet noodle, rough and flemsy. Ive also had a 2005 F-150 and currently drive a 2011 chevy 1500 both with fully boxed frames. These two trucks both ride much stiffer but are also much smoother, due
@stephen4177, I think thats mainly because people romp the raptors way harder then they were designed to do. But oh well, Im not an f150 guy anyway. It is what it is.
I've been renting an F-150 ecoboost for the past 3 weeks as a work truck, thrashing it around on extremely gnarly offroad terrain on a pipeline corridor. So far I have been impressed, but as I posted in another comment the difference in feel compared to a Tundra is negligible and hardly worth arguing about. To me the Ford doesn't feel any stiffer or stronger than the Tundra, and I've thrashed both trucks hard. Brand wars are so dumb. At the end of the day, the differences are negligible.
Toyota's frame flex causes the bed to hit the cab over rough bumps. My 5.4 l 3 v will out tow a piece of shit toyota anyday. At least my vehicle wont go kamakazie on the throttle and my tailgate wont fall off. Cause i own a real truck!! Ford is tired of people buying this garbage thats why they make these videos!!
This is why I hate Ford. They have to try to find ways to beat on Toyota, ALL THE TIME. Why? Because they know Toyota is better than them. In reference to the top rated comment, the test is irrelevant for testing frame strength. In Toyota's ads, they never rag on anybody because they know they don't have to.
@hillbilly532 taf ala bahnan kollok ax jikomparaw ma ditti li huma ta kalibru tahhom u jiperfzjonaw fuqhom stupid asshole FORD LEADS THE WAY OTHERS FOLLOW I HAD A TOYOTA AND THAT WAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE I MADE INFACT I SOLD IT AND AGAIN I BOUGHT FORD
@RovingLandRover but thats not true, toyota brings back billions of dollars from us revenue, instead of the americans. If you compare it you will see that they take more then we do for our work.
@RovingLandRover doesnt work quite like that, yes its publicly traded, but who owns the majority of the stock....Toyota over in japan, do the research next time, and no im not the idiot, it just happens that you dont think things right. As in all car companys the ownership is decieded by who owns the most stock, hence why the ford family owns ford, why toyota is owned by toyota over in japan, etc....yeah, learn the facts later.
@RovingLandRover Alright, now where does the money go after that? *cough*Japan*cough* Just cause Terletta has factorys here makes them an American company by no means...
@RovingLandRover oh rly, well then answer this. Where are all of these vehicles being designed at, where does the majority of the profit go to. Thats right, pwnt!
in some cases it is better to have a flexible frame. but (and i don't know why you would do this with either truck) if you wanted to haul a 5th wheel, or anything large. a flexible frame is going to be significantly less stable. and the last thing you want is to not have control of your load.
This test measures elastic deflection under stress, NOT strain or failure. They are not one in the same. This test is completely irrelevant to the argument of frame "strength".
@cashmab you dont need to be an engineer to see there is a difference here ....tell me you cant possibly see a stronger frame here?..would you think a floor in your house built out of 2x4's is as strong as a same size floor but built with 2x10's and x bracing????
@cashmab Elastic deflection is directly correlated to how strong the frame is. The weaker it is, the more deflection it will exhibit, and the less performance you will see from it. Have you ever gone off roading in a Raptor, and then switched to a Tundra? The floppyness of the frame is immediately noticeable, it just feels cheap. With that said, I'd like to see how the yota does with subframe connectors. No reason people can't mod the frame to be as stiff as the competition.
@xilix Your assertion of elastic strain being directly correlated to how strong the frame is is not true at all. I have gone off roading in a both Raptor and a Tundra. I did not perceive any significant difference in performance. Furthermore, many Raptor owners are reporting permanent frame strain (i.e. bent frames) after routine off road driving -- there has been no similar permanent bend issue with Tundras. There's a long thread on Raptorforumz about the bent frame issue, google it.
@cashmab It's difficult to understand why some people get all excited by a stupid test like this... what would happen to an 18 wheeler if engineers decided to "box in" the frame to make it rigid? Those who think that flexible frames won't last must also think that leaf springs are made of rubber...
@doomsk8er Cool story bro, now is it the best selling vehicle in America? Does it have independant brakes for towing? Does it have 4-valves per cylinder? Is it good looking? No, no, and hell no... lol
@FordMaverickFanatic The Tundra hasn't been around for half as long as the F150. The Tundra brakes better than the F150, period. The iForce has more torque for its displacement than Ford's 6.2 and has a higher compression ratio. Looks are a matter of opinion and have nothing to do with the functionality of the truck. Toyota is a better built truck, accept it
@doomsk8er Uh no because I live in America and my dad works for an AMERICAN company, Ford. I don't give a fuck how many toyota plants are here cause the money ends up going to Japan. And a higher CR doesn't mean shit. Means you need more octane which is more costly. And more torque than displacement so what? It's called a long-stroke crank. Hang a snow plow on the front of your tundra and comment back in a year and tell me how your truck is doing...
@FordMaverickFanatic And my dad went into the desert to get mortars shot at him while teaching the Iraqis how to direct air traffic so your dad didn't die in a suicide bomb attack, and a good friend of mine who used to work for GM openly admitted that less than 10% of the profits go to headquarters, that means that the money I spent on my San Antonio, TX-built Tacoma went to the AMERICANS who built, shipped, and sold the truck. I see that this is going nowhere so I end it here.
@doomsk8er Well if your dad is in the military, then you should definatley buy American...and regardless of what you say Toyota will never be an American company...Ford, Chevy, GMC, and Dodge are the only real American trucks. Period.
@FordMaverickFanatic The last American cars my family's owned were a 94 Dodge Caravan (Crap, farted blue smoke constantly) and an 84 Ranger (great but the V6 sucked gas according to my dad). But he bought a Toyota Corolla in 85 and have owned Toyotas and Hondas exclusively since 98 and we've had minimal problems. You're right, Toyota is not an American company, but they employ 35,000+ people in the USA, providing them with jobs, and money to pay taxes with.
@doomsk8er, Hondas and Toyota, HOW EXCITING AND UNIQUE! bet that 106 HP 1.6 engine is a real rush to drive, it must sprint from 0-60 in about 45 seconds. and the design, oh my god they are so beautiful with their lineless bodys and flat plane griles and lights....I bet when you get into your car in morning you must need to tell yourself over and over again "its reliable and economical" because I dont belive anyone could consciously drive one of those boaring cars without bullshiting themselfs.
@123abcpa Wow. Fucking wow. I drive a Toyota because I am comfortable with the size of my dick and because I don't want a car that's going to break down every 5 goddamn seconds, then I'll fucking fix it with zip ties and duct tape cuz YEEEAAHHHHHAAWWWW I GOTS HORSE PAOWER!! FUCKIN JAP SHIT HAHHAA.. Read a book you fucktard, raise that single-digit IQ of yours. I'd take a turbocharged Civic over a new fatass Camaro with its fucking gun slit windows and pedals you can't heel toe in for shit
@123abcpa Because unlike your uneducated ass, my idea of performance is how fast it goes around a racetrack, not how fast it can go in a straight fucking line. Toyota's boring as hell but the people who buy them don't expect to go fast with them. They buy them because they want a car that's not going to fall apart as soon as the warranty's up.
@doomsk8er, FYI I fly a cargo plane and worked very hard to get to where I am, I hold a bachelors degree in aeronautical science and make $126,000 a year. Im not rich or a genius but I am NOT uneducated. I drive a Land Rover Discover and I feel bad for people like you that drive little ecoshit boxes and then tell yoursef your better then others because you made a better choice just because its weel built. well built maybe so but NOT good cars, boaring, slow, stupid looking cars that dont die.
@123abcpa I'm having a hard time buying your life success story based on the number of spelling errors alone in your comment.
Land Rover consistently has the lowest customer satisfaction ranking, year after year, of all auto brands in the United States. I believe that is 22nd place, usually trailing Jaguar. Great cars, when they work, which is almost never. Nobody in their right mind would actually depend on one to say, get to work or the airport?
@emotionz3, I maintenance mine and it works, it has not been without problems but I love it because it has great personality. I dont care if you believe me or not, your nobody.
@123abcpa Maybe I missed something that was posted earlier, but what the F does this have to do with Toyota trucks (i.e., what this video is about)? Have you ever seen a lifted Tacoma that is built up for crawling or drifting/jumping? Doesn't get a lot more exciting and unique than that. Not all Toyotas are boring bare bones econoboxes. p.s., what's your aircraft? MD-11?
@FordMaverickFanatic The money ends up going to Japan? You mean the American workers in the American Toyota factories don't get paid? Man that's a bummer.
Wow do your homework! Tundras are now more AMERICAN MADE than ford!!! 85% to be exact! fords are canadian mexican now. The only thing used in a Tundra that is foriegn are the electronics. ford uses the same asian electronics to. Go find a 5.7 Tundra and an f-150 and do a tow test see who wins! Tundra 10 out of 10 times!
@WEST5150CoAsT if you try and pick up a globe you know that blue and green ball, in your class room then turn it till you see the word america you will notice that Canada Mexico and the united states are all in america, and as for your little fantasy about a tow test it is an undisputed fact that ford has the highest in class towing capacity. and i don't mean by you and the peanut gallery i mean by Toyota if you shop around on all four sites nobody has higher #s than ford
@fordtoughbear actually chevy did multiple test and although ford had better numbers on paper chevy out perfored for in frame twist, accelerting on a incline pulling a trailer, brake fade, exhaust brake, and overall towing. Ford had better numbers on paper but chevy out performed them. just go to vvvvvv.chevy.c0m/hd-to-hd-truck-comparison and u will know what i mean
@jacobdorp well seeing how we're looking at the 1500 series i dont see the relevance and also im kind of curious to know why chevy didn't use the same trucks for all those tests
@jacobdorp of course if its tested by chevy theyre not gonna let ford win theyre gonna put out fake shit. look at independent lab tests. ford outperforms
@jacobdorp hey smart one, the testes you are telling people to look up are for the heavy duties. this test is on the light duty or half tons. not 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. BTW why did they not test the Chevy gas vs Ford/Dodge gas?
@fordtoughbear actually chevy did multiple test and although ford had better numbers on paper chevy out perfored for in frame twist, accelerting on a incline pulling a trailer, brake fade, exhaust brake, and overall towing. Ford had better numbers on paper but chevy out performed them. just go to vvvvvv.chevy.c0m/hd-to-hd-truck-comparison and u will know what i mean
@WEST5150CoAsT since when did toyota become american ?...well if you want to look at it that way then toyota takes more american money out of this country then it leaves behind ...and look a few things up ,,ford is global like toyota...and ford still builds vehicles in america ..and this might brake your toyota cheerleading heart but even toyota use's mexican parts on there mighty american made japanese truck ....ouch ..
@Trx420fm1 no ford 2500 and up r still c channel along with chevy 4500 made for work this is the first year for chevys hd to have a box frame fail they r also good for roting out from the inside and having thiner steel walls so c channel is more made for work still . Try again bo
stephen4177 2 days ago
@Trx420fm1 fords frames bend toyotas may rust but didn't fail like gm mr mexico. this video show twist in a frame like any other c frame
stephen4177 3 days ago
@Trx420fm1 still didn't do research ur shitty chevy 2500's for 2012 have a full boxed frames
stephen4177 3 days ago
@stephen4177 yes cause boxed frames are stronger ideal for 2500/3500 trucks that are made to work
trx420fm1 2 days ago
hahaha toyota fails again stephen4177 you haven't learned that toyota fails yet you have watched every toyota comparison on you tube hahahaha you TROLL
trx420fm1 3 days ago
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illinois1984 5 days ago
the 166 dislikes must be dumb toyota fans that for reason thought toyota would come out on top
pistonkiller7 1 week ago
Save a lot of time and jump to 5:40 for the results of this test.
lotitomj 1 week ago
Funny tundra has a cframe ford f150 has a box.they say its stronger so y does the f250 have a c frame like tundra .
stephen4177 1 week ago
@stephen4177 hahahah look who it is again hahaha no 2500and3500s have boxed frames guess again goober you are wrong again
trx420fm1 3 days ago
WOW!! Great frame, now maybe they can take the frame engineers off that project and put them on the motor. Whats the point of having a frame if the motor can't get you there. My Expedition has cost me hundreds for the weak heads they put on the motor 5.4L . That SUV / Truck blows plugs like they planned it. Hey, Can I just buy the frame ? Thanks. LOL
mattahorn2 2 weeks ago
The c channel flexs we know look under any hd truck chevy ford dodge hd all have c channel frames there made to twist .my work has chevy4500 , it twistes like crazy me jumping on the steps twist the box and the cab like there independent its freaky but its always broken not the frame the truck peice of shit
stephen4177 2 weeks ago
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This is one very "cold" video. =p
thadgiles513 2 weeks ago
Surely a chassis needs to flex to do its job properly?
I see hgv truck chassis's flex every day and i mean trucks not pick ups
lynalldiscovery 2 weeks ago
Toyota needs to box off the tundra frames, a more rigid frame makes the suspension do more work, the frame won't shake, and the truck won't get thrown around. This should make better ride quality.
UBConquered 3 weeks ago
wonder what will happend if japanese toyota take care of this and build the tundra there, maybe a bye bye for north america car makers.
toyota, honda and nissan displased them in car sales, maybe they can do the same with trucks lol.
omar53333 3 weeks ago
@omar53333 maybe combined they do but not one on one,,out of the top 10 ford has 3 spots chevy 2 ,,dodge 1 ,,toyota 2 ,,honda 1 ,,nissan 1...6 domestics out of 4 imports..i think domestics are ahead..,,long live the big3
390merc65 2 weeks ago in playlist Toyota sucks
@390merc65 yup, but all of the ''big three'' are after the ''imports'' first toyota, then nissan, then honda, then ford, then chev and dodge. so, once they are in the list, they are in the last places of the list dude.
nice reproduction list btw lol 'toyota sucks'
omar53333 2 weeks ago
@omar53333 ..where is this mythical info you are getting?..how can the imports be on top when THEE number one selling spot go's to the ford?...number 2,,chevy ..so tell me how all imports are before.the domestics?,,and yes toyota sucks...any more questions?
390merc65 2 weeks ago
@390merc65 i can give you 50 links with this info if you want dude relax, ill give you 3 with this mythical info.
autoblog. com/2011/01/04/americas-best-selling-cars-and-trucks-of-2010-are/
carsdirect. com/automotive-news/best-selling-2010-cars-and-trucks
gayot. com/lifestyle/automobile/lists/top_sellers/toyota_camry.html
here you go, add w ww. at the start, you know youtube dont allow links.
this is the prof that ''imports'' owns cars sales.
omar53333 2 weeks ago
@omar53333 i just check your sources ..and as i said the ford f series outsells any and all other vehicles on 4 wheels..the camry is in 3rd with the best selling car..not total sold vehicles..the top spot still go's to the ford f series ,,second is the chevy ..out of the top [10] ford has 3 vehicles toyota 2 honda 1 and it barely beet the fusion as the article says ,,nissan 1 spot .so i dont know were you see in the same list i am reading that imports kill domestics in sales ??????
390merc65 2 weeks ago
@390merc65 oh then we have a big confusion, i said ''imports'' are best selling cars, i meand CARS.
omar53333 2 weeks ago
@omar53333 car sales?..yes toyota beats ford..but the fusion is very close to nissan and the fusion is right behind honda..but in this article from your sources the honda only beat ford by 5000 units and thats nothing..and the honda has 2 cars in that segment to share sales,,so with all of this info i dont see how imports dominate car sales..sales for ford and honda are real close so how do imports own car sales??..
390merc65 2 weeks ago
@390merc65 right for honda, but what about nissan and toyota ?
omar53333 2 weeks ago
@omar53333 speaking of car sale.i think the fusion did very well seeing its the new kid on the block..how long is the camry out to the ford?,,and if you count only the accord to fusion the fusion sales more.so all in all the fusion did well .sorry..after looking at sales #'s i diont see the huge spike in sales of were imports kill american cars ,THEE #1 spot go's to ford for all out sales above all other's,,car or truck.and i dont even see toyota trucks on this at all..they are bottom feeder's
390merc65 2 weeks ago
@390merc65 dude i never said ''kill'' i said it has BETTER CAR SALES.
about totals im not talking about that, im talking about the car that has MORE SALES not the total of sales
omar53333 2 weeks ago
@omar53333 and by reading your info ...going by your info ..the top 10 worst vehciles there isnt a ford even on the list..this is the segment that the imports dominate,,9 out of 10 worst sellers go to imports...only 1 belongs to domestics ...sorry dude..i dont make up this figures,,thats just the way it is ,,camry does sell the most cars but only gets it to the #3 spot ..you cant argue,..out of the top 10 sales..ford has 3 vehicles in this segment ,,more then any other manufacture
390merc65 2 weeks ago
@390merc65 we are going arround circles, i said camry, accord and altima are the top 3 car sellers, imports being in worst sellers doesnt mean nothing, i bet no toyota, nissan or honda is in that list.
just like a discussion i had about a guy with the corvette ZR1, sticking in something im not arguing.
just forget it ok, anyway the top 1 more sold car is the Camry, end.
omar53333 2 weeks ago
@omar53333 what circles?...you did not show me anything i did not know..this all started cuzz you said imports kills american cars..and i pointed out they they do not..the camry is the top selling car..thats a no brainer,,,but my point was,,out of the 10 ford has more in the 10 then nissan toyota or honda for top sales..the honda is only ahead of fusion by a few sales..nothing to brag about..and i said honda has 2 car making up those sales..but fusion to accord.,fusion sold more
390merc65 2 weeks ago
Wow this Guy is a horrible speaker.....the Ford ahhhhh vs ahhhhh the ahhhhhh tundraaaaaaaaa they couldn't find any one better ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
scoomagee 3 weeks ago
I'd really like to know how to get to the girl pouring food on herself from here.
iforce4x4 3 weeks ago
full boxed fram = lighter metal and more prone to rust from the inside out.
trvsball 1 month ago
REDNECK BRAGGING MATERIALS
this does NOT mean that FORD? is in any way even close to anything even slightly reliable !
The ford will fall apart in 2 weeks
zloben9000 1 month ago
@zloben9000 As says the person with absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Go back to the shitty Yaris on your channel.
PowerstrokeForever 3 weeks ago
@PowerstrokeForever and you go back to africa !
zloben9000 3 weeks ago
@zloben9000 Too bad I'm from America?
PowerstrokeForever 3 weeks ago
Your video is a favorite on Ghana
freddymathis820 1 month ago
under normal uses the raptor frames wouldnt bend. It was at a raptor run and they where going 60mph plus and hitting some big air and logs. Thats what caused it, 4 inches of up travel. Lets see a tundra go 60 in some whoops and not bend something
usadaria 1 month ago
@Skulls832 Ford was the first car made in America so it is american lol
SuperHotLarry 1 month ago
ford proving grounds whos going to to win? lol
nerdelac13 1 month ago 2
Box will fail not c frame .dam auto correct
stephen4177 1 month ago
There is a difference between strength and flex and yes f250 has a c frame .chevy sux on 10 yrs you will c those frames fail un like toyota and fords
stephen4177 1 month ago
easy to compare ford to toyota id like to see the chevy frame thats sad that ford cant compete with an american truck
Skulls832 1 month ago
@Skulls832 Ford is american the first ford was built and made in america
mistermamaluigi 1 month ago
@mistermamaluigi idi not say that they were not bilt in america i said that ford did not have the ball to compete with a nother american brand they had to pick on the jap pice of shit
Skulls832 2 weeks ago
@Skulls832 wow a couple of type os let me redo that i did not say that ford was not built in america what i was saying that ford does not have the balls to compete with another american brand like chevy or dodge they had to go pick on the pos tundra
Skulls832 2 weeks ago
@Skulls832 yeah, after watching them compare f-150 to nissan, toyota, dodge, and chevy, dodges frame was smaller, chev's not even fully boxed, no second wall to weld cross members through to keep frame from bending so much,smaller as well, was only one to have the good handling of aluminum suspension,and some of competition's tow hooks were a joke, and ford only one to have a full frame around engine,chev only 1 to have none,ford has best in class fuel economy,would go on running out of letters.
wackyworldvideos34 1 week ago
@Skulls832 If you're inferring that a Ford could not compete with a Chevy your dead wrong
mistermamaluigi 1 week ago
I guess the new silverado hd is better than the super duty, because the silverado hd is fully boxed, while the super duty is open c.
joshuaglen91 1 month ago 2
blah blah blah put it to the test, put the load on the trucks and drive them over ramps to test the bending...u may need to fix the fords frame and or box and tailgate...
raworawr 2 months ago
Chk The Ford Raptor bend frames videos. . .Shocking Just under rear suspension it goes suggie and bends, not cool of ford regarding to Toyota frame when it uses diffrent filosify and Ford does not help Raptor owners to solwe upcoming trubel na , Just 800$ bill extra too fix there own fail cunstruckted frame, Not big deal.
-But i newer seen big semi truck being stiff in there frame they dont like things that snaps appart....flex is an other way off strength....
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GamelsmurfXXX 2 months ago
youre never gonna sway biased people, so from my unbiased Australian point-of-view, the Tundra chassis seems way too soft. And yes, youre right about having too much stiffness, but the Ford did seem to have some twist. I would definately go with the Ford. Tundra looks good, but it all seems like smoke and mirrors.....Why Paul Jr bought a few of them is beyond me......
robertos477 2 months ago
@TheMechanicMan30. And if you would care to do your research, kid, then you would easily find that the reason they rusted was because the company that Toyota had doing them skipped some processes. Some did pass, because of how they were taken care of and what location they lived in. My dads ranger has 70k miles and the frame has been welded on it from rusting, and an uncle of mine has welded his frame twice...big crack from rust...and its a ford. Ford make it right with them. NO! Toyota FTW!
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cashmab 2 months ago
Stiff=road only. Flexible=road AND offroad
k3vinyAng 2 months ago
@k3vinyAng is that why all real offroad vehicles used tube frames that dont flex at all?
usadaria 1 month ago
I wanna see a Japanese building swaying because of a 8.9 Magnitude Richter scale. yeah that's what we called engineering. That's the concept.
u238fist 2 months ago
I want to see strength tests after 10 years in the rust belt. My personal experience puts the money on the c frame vs. the boxed frame. sorry.
qtotgirl 2 months ago
Three times stiffer! Thats what she said.
rayamanelly 3 months ago
I preffer to drive a solid built truck and don't make excuses for my short comings by compairing trucks to airplanes. Yes lastyear Tundra was tough to beat but with the new Ford motors they now have competition inthe half ton market that they will have a tough time catching up with. I have never wanted an F150 because the motors were underpowered especially for the well built solid truck it was in that outweighed everything in its class. But now I wouldnt Trade my max tow ecoboost for anything.
rays4design 3 months ago
Obviously a biased video. Stiff is not always a good thing. Think of an aircraft wing in rough air. Flex is a good thing. If the frame is stiff it is more susceptible to stress and cracks.
vault615 3 months ago
Jap scraP
NickFoli1 3 months ago
stiffness does not equate to strength !!
szym86 3 months ago
God!! Such a long winded video. Get to the point!!
alivewithpassion 3 months ago
No matter what Ford dose there trucks still suck. Raptors frames getting bent while offroad. Ill stick with the tundra and have the frame flex then being bent like a ford
JordanMH1234 3 months ago
@JordanMH1234 Do your research buddy, those where only 4 Raptors out of all of the Raptors sold, and they swapped out the Fox Racing Shocks for their own. There's a reason that the F150 is the number one selling truck out there. Screw imports, only Americans can make real trucks.
murderkid200 4 weeks ago
What good is a strong frame if your truck doesn't run? Oh I get it ,when the tow truck picks it up then the frame gets a good work out!! Such bullshit, I haven't bent my frame and I beat on my truck! Tundra's rock!
misterpetals 3 months ago
You guys posting negative comments must have never seen the video where the Tundra smashed it's own box into it's cab over a few small bumps...
MrTpengineer 4 months ago 2
Toyota replaced all there bad frames would Ford do that on a ten yr old truck
stephen4177 4 months ago
i came here from watching a girl pour food over herself in the shower
inteusproductions 4 months ago 21
@inteusproductions You too?! I got to the girl with food from tosh.0 :\
mindleak 4 months ago
@inteusproductions care to share?
cal920c 2 months ago
@inteusproductions Can you send me that link.
matrix49A 2 months ago
Rigid does not mean strong in the metal world.
jetman1979 4 months ago 7
how old is that tundra frame? my 07 has a boxed frame...
danthman114 4 months ago
@danthman114
hehe because its not even a tundra frame its a taco frame....its funny too cause the guy was smart enough to only call it a toyota frame but then elaborated on the specs of the ford as an F-150 frame...i guess they didnt want to compare a tacoma to a ranger
l501218 2 months ago
as you can see uummmm......ummmmmm..... well this ummmmm
generalteran1 4 months ago
When Toyota introduced the latest model Tundra, it was when we were first seeing 1/2 ton capabilities reaching into the previous model 3/4 ton trucks. Some flex is good for bearing heavy loads. Fully boxed was unheard of on HDs until this model year. While this guy is talking about how fully boxed is superior, Ford is building all of their Super Duty trucks on c-channels. My Tundra does have a choppy ride when unloaded; but I got it to take my boat to the lake, not my grandma to church.
iforce4x4 4 months ago
@stephen4177..you do realize that a substantial amount of Toyota Tacoma frames' from the year 1995 all the way up to 2004 deteriorate and rust away disgustingly. That was a BIG fuck up in terms of frame quality..so how does anyone even think they have the right to even bring up fords 10 measly raptor frame issues when comparing to Toyota..DO YOUR RESEARCH KID!
TheMechanicman30 4 months ago 2
@TheMechanicman30 agreed 100% and under normal uses the raptor frames wouldnt bend. It was at a raptor run and they where going 60mph plus and hitting some big air and logs. Thats what caused it, 4 inches of up travel. Lets see a tundra go 60 in some whoops and not bend something
usadaria 1 month ago
cashmab said it right, this measures elastic deflection.
ballader1 4 months ago
It's funny how all these people still think toyota is better, even after watching all these videos.
clayton188 4 months ago in playlist More videos from CarDataVideo
crappy yota frames. it's embarrassing knowing that the tundra is built not too far from where i live
markredf150 4 months ago in playlist car stuff
No I agree it's not same but you have to admit saying all Fords are great would be foul statement. Ranger is weak for price they want for them and being 1989 design lol. My nissan is not weak, my toyota's not weak well except for suspensions. I myself do not want full size truck I only tow and haul maybe once month. Chev and Fords mid size truck bottom of barrel seem really over priced. Now if they where half price yota or nissan I would not say a thing, regular cab ranger for $17k base?
superhawkn 4 months ago
Built Ford Awesome
JTurner427 4 months ago
Yes but Ford has brought lousy lousy cars in past, people are crushing old explorer with v6 german designed motor. While jeep xjs are still going strong! Ranger sucks if Ford thinks that truck is ok even sold loaded for $16k there crazzzyyyy. 1989 style. Nissan and toyota still killing them
superhawkn 4 months ago
@superhawkn not trying to be a dick here but you realize that the ranger isnt really a full truck, with that i agree, but its more for weekend warriors doing a small renovation on there house. its for the people who really dont need a full truck like the f-150 and or up. dont mean to be a dick but i thought ya might like to know.
Vence4395 4 months ago
Not distribute
stephen4177 5 months ago
Notsure if subframe connectors would work right.when towing it might distribute the weight on the frame right.causing to pressure on the rear point .its made to flex for a reason I have a,crew max it rides just fine on,and off road
stephen4177 5 months ago
metal is metal if you bend it over time it will break... so the less flex the longer it will last... all those of you out there that no nothing about steal or metal shut the F#ck ford has the strongest frame and thats a fact so shut up dont right me saying flex doesnt weaken metal... go back to school if you dont know that!!!
JOHNNYSschool 5 months ago
@JOHNNYSschool What you said about metal is not that simple and not necessarily true, and what you said about Ford having the "strongest" frame is not true. More rigid frame that the Tundra? Definitely. Stronger than the Tundra? No. As I mentioned in my reply to xilix below, F-150 Raptors are having issues of frame failure from routine off road driving. Google "raptorforumz frame bending" and read up on what people have been reporting. Google "Tundra frame bending" and there are no hits.
cashmab 5 months ago
@cashmab Raptor is a factory pre runner truck. $100.00 aftermarket bolt on fix for the Raptor frame problem. Some people don't have the problem with the Raptor and some do. It all depends on how far you want to push the truck. Can't compare a Tundra to a Raptor. Only reason the Tundra came out was to compete against US full size truck market. I have never had a frame problem with my Ford's.
fredneck4x4 4 months ago
The guy should not be presenting. all you hear is "aahh this frame is aahhh"
amandeepkang13 5 months ago
Both of these trucks could have similar towing and payload capabilities. The difference is in ride quality especially on rough roads. How can you use your frame to help isolate NVH when the frame is constantly bending and warping itself. I have a 2004 chevy 1500 with a C-Channel frame. It rides like a wet noodle, rough and flemsy. Ive also had a 2005 F-150 and currently drive a 2011 chevy 1500 both with fully boxed frames. These two trucks both ride much stiffer but are also much smoother, due
tdesilva1 5 months ago
Besides I had sex with a ford,never called
stephen4177 5 months ago
uh, ah, um, uh, ah, um, ....
Ford needs a better presenter.
pbartolomeo05 5 months ago
Now ford s have bent frames recalls lol
stephen4177 5 months ago 24
@stephen4177, I think thats mainly because people romp the raptors way harder then they were designed to do. But oh well, Im not an f150 guy anyway. It is what it is.
NathansBackwoods 4 weeks ago
I've been renting an F-150 ecoboost for the past 3 weeks as a work truck, thrashing it around on extremely gnarly offroad terrain on a pipeline corridor. So far I have been impressed, but as I posted in another comment the difference in feel compared to a Tundra is negligible and hardly worth arguing about. To me the Ford doesn't feel any stiffer or stronger than the Tundra, and I've thrashed both trucks hard. Brand wars are so dumb. At the end of the day, the differences are negligible.
cashmab 5 months ago
This is fucking dumb, fully boxed frames are a load of shit. You never hear anyone say "oh god my truck fell in on itself" that just doesn't happen.
iXetsuei 5 months ago
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Can someone tell me how many times he says "uhh"
erikhoeffner 5 months ago
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erikhoeffner 5 months ago
"uuh .... Uhhh"
6jwise6 6 months ago
i would still get a toyota because that ford frame is probably heavy as hell thats y fords waste so much gas
1031jdg 6 months ago
Toyota's frame flex causes the bed to hit the cab over rough bumps. My 5.4 l 3 v will out tow a piece of shit toyota anyday. At least my vehicle wont go kamakazie on the throttle and my tailgate wont fall off. Cause i own a real truck!! Ford is tired of people buying this garbage thats why they make these videos!!
bstngt 6 months ago 2
FORD THE BEST !!!!
chrisescorts 6 months ago
This is why I hate Ford. They have to try to find ways to beat on Toyota, ALL THE TIME. Why? Because they know Toyota is better than them. In reference to the top rated comment, the test is irrelevant for testing frame strength. In Toyota's ads, they never rag on anybody because they know they don't have to.
hillbilly532 6 months ago
@hillbilly532 taf ala bahnan kollok ax jikomparaw ma ditti li huma ta kalibru tahhom u jiperfzjonaw fuqhom stupid asshole FORD LEADS THE WAY OTHERS FOLLOW I HAD A TOYOTA AND THAT WAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE I MADE INFACT I SOLD IT AND AGAIN I BOUGHT FORD
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doomsk8er 6 months ago
@RovingLandRover but thats not true, toyota brings back billions of dollars from us revenue, instead of the americans. If you compare it you will see that they take more then we do for our work.
slrrfan 6 months ago
@RovingLandRover doesnt work quite like that, yes its publicly traded, but who owns the majority of the stock....Toyota over in japan, do the research next time, and no im not the idiot, it just happens that you dont think things right. As in all car companys the ownership is decieded by who owns the most stock, hence why the ford family owns ford, why toyota is owned by toyota over in japan, etc....yeah, learn the facts later.
slrrfan 6 months ago
@RovingLandRover Alright, now where does the money go after that? *cough*Japan*cough* Just cause Terletta has factorys here makes them an American company by no means...
FordMaverickFanatic 6 months ago
@RovingLandRover oh rly, well then answer this. Where are all of these vehicles being designed at, where does the majority of the profit go to. Thats right, pwnt!
slrrfan 6 months ago
toyota's fram i supposed to flex......
phl95 6 months ago
jesus christ some of you are stupid. making a point by over-exaggerating doesn't make a point. it makes you look like a jackass... nice try though...
shizloops2 6 months ago
in some cases it is better to have a flexible frame. but (and i don't know why you would do this with either truck) if you wanted to haul a 5th wheel, or anything large. a flexible frame is going to be significantly less stable. and the last thing you want is to not have control of your load.
shizloops2 6 months ago
i was trying to pay attention but him keep saying huh huh huh during his presentation was really distracting!
jaboii3750 6 months ago
Tundra is deliberately designed to flex, which does not make it stronger. Toyota should fully box it all the way, not just under the engine
mrpapa3266 6 months ago
either way..... FORD rules
MillionairJoe 6 months ago
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This test measures elastic deflection under stress, NOT strain or failure. They are not one in the same. This test is completely irrelevant to the argument of frame "strength".
cashmab 6 months ago 11
@cashmab you dont need to be an engineer to see there is a difference here ....tell me you cant possibly see a stronger frame here?..would you think a floor in your house built out of 2x4's is as strong as a same size floor but built with 2x10's and x bracing????
390merc65 5 months ago
@cashmab Elastic deflection is directly correlated to how strong the frame is. The weaker it is, the more deflection it will exhibit, and the less performance you will see from it. Have you ever gone off roading in a Raptor, and then switched to a Tundra? The floppyness of the frame is immediately noticeable, it just feels cheap. With that said, I'd like to see how the yota does with subframe connectors. No reason people can't mod the frame to be as stiff as the competition.
xilix 5 months ago
@xilix Your assertion of elastic strain being directly correlated to how strong the frame is is not true at all. I have gone off roading in a both Raptor and a Tundra. I did not perceive any significant difference in performance. Furthermore, many Raptor owners are reporting permanent frame strain (i.e. bent frames) after routine off road driving -- there has been no similar permanent bend issue with Tundras. There's a long thread on Raptorforumz about the bent frame issue, google it.
cashmab 5 months ago
@cashmab It's difficult to understand why some people get all excited by a stupid test like this... what would happen to an 18 wheeler if engineers decided to "box in" the frame to make it rigid? Those who think that flexible frames won't last must also think that leaf springs are made of rubber...
98LADO 4 months ago
Dam ford kills toyota,I'm trading my tundra in tommorrw!!!
brapidrotation 6 months ago
Japs don't even come close to building the strength of frames American's can.
DatGuyWhoDidDatTing 6 months ago
Ahem, Mr. CarData American biased youtuber. Rigid =/= strong. The Tundra's frame is MEANT to flex, it's stronger.
doomsk8er 6 months ago
@doomsk8er Exactly.
cashmab 6 months ago
@doomsk8er
LOL exactly!! i wonder what the skyscrapers in japan from the last earthquake would look like during and afterwards if they were built by ford..
l501218 6 months ago
@doomsk8er Why would you want ur frame to bend? Ever? lol
FordMaverickFanatic 6 months ago
@FordMaverickFanatic Flexibility, Strength. Read a book.
doomsk8er 6 months ago
@doomsk8er Lol, I'll let my suspension flex rather than my frame. Toyota should fire Gumby from their engineering dept.
FordMaverickFanatic 6 months ago
@FordMaverickFanatic The Tundra beats F150 in towing and matches it in payload. I really do not care to hear what else you have to say.
doomsk8er 6 months ago
@doomsk8er Cool story bro, now is it the best selling vehicle in America? Does it have independant brakes for towing? Does it have 4-valves per cylinder? Is it good looking? No, no, and hell no... lol
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doomsk8er 6 months ago
@FordMaverickFanatic The Tundra hasn't been around for half as long as the F150. The Tundra brakes better than the F150, period. The iForce has more torque for its displacement than Ford's 6.2 and has a higher compression ratio. Looks are a matter of opinion and have nothing to do with the functionality of the truck. Toyota is a better built truck, accept it
doomsk8er 6 months ago
@doomsk8er Uh no because I live in America and my dad works for an AMERICAN company, Ford. I don't give a fuck how many toyota plants are here cause the money ends up going to Japan. And a higher CR doesn't mean shit. Means you need more octane which is more costly. And more torque than displacement so what? It's called a long-stroke crank. Hang a snow plow on the front of your tundra and comment back in a year and tell me how your truck is doing...
FordMaverickFanatic 6 months ago
@FordMaverickFanatic And my dad went into the desert to get mortars shot at him while teaching the Iraqis how to direct air traffic so your dad didn't die in a suicide bomb attack, and a good friend of mine who used to work for GM openly admitted that less than 10% of the profits go to headquarters, that means that the money I spent on my San Antonio, TX-built Tacoma went to the AMERICANS who built, shipped, and sold the truck. I see that this is going nowhere so I end it here.
doomsk8er 6 months ago
@doomsk8er Well if your dad is in the military, then you should definatley buy American...and regardless of what you say Toyota will never be an American company...Ford, Chevy, GMC, and Dodge are the only real American trucks. Period.
FordMaverickFanatic 6 months ago
@FordMaverickFanatic The last American cars my family's owned were a 94 Dodge Caravan (Crap, farted blue smoke constantly) and an 84 Ranger (great but the V6 sucked gas according to my dad). But he bought a Toyota Corolla in 85 and have owned Toyotas and Hondas exclusively since 98 and we've had minimal problems. You're right, Toyota is not an American company, but they employ 35,000+ people in the USA, providing them with jobs, and money to pay taxes with.
doomsk8er 6 months ago
@doomsk8er, Hondas and Toyota, HOW EXCITING AND UNIQUE! bet that 106 HP 1.6 engine is a real rush to drive, it must sprint from 0-60 in about 45 seconds. and the design, oh my god they are so beautiful with their lineless bodys and flat plane griles and lights....I bet when you get into your car in morning you must need to tell yourself over and over again "its reliable and economical" because I dont belive anyone could consciously drive one of those boaring cars without bullshiting themselfs.
123abcpa 5 months ago
@123abcpa Wow. Fucking wow. I drive a Toyota because I am comfortable with the size of my dick and because I don't want a car that's going to break down every 5 goddamn seconds, then I'll fucking fix it with zip ties and duct tape cuz YEEEAAHHHHHAAWWWW I GOTS HORSE PAOWER!! FUCKIN JAP SHIT HAHHAA.. Read a book you fucktard, raise that single-digit IQ of yours. I'd take a turbocharged Civic over a new fatass Camaro with its fucking gun slit windows and pedals you can't heel toe in for shit
doomsk8er 5 months ago
@123abcpa Because unlike your uneducated ass, my idea of performance is how fast it goes around a racetrack, not how fast it can go in a straight fucking line. Toyota's boring as hell but the people who buy them don't expect to go fast with them. They buy them because they want a car that's not going to fall apart as soon as the warranty's up.
doomsk8er 5 months ago
@doomsk8er, FYI I fly a cargo plane and worked very hard to get to where I am, I hold a bachelors degree in aeronautical science and make $126,000 a year. Im not rich or a genius but I am NOT uneducated. I drive a Land Rover Discover and I feel bad for people like you that drive little ecoshit boxes and then tell yoursef your better then others because you made a better choice just because its weel built. well built maybe so but NOT good cars, boaring, slow, stupid looking cars that dont die.
123abcpa 5 months ago
@123abcpa I'm having a hard time buying your life success story based on the number of spelling errors alone in your comment.
Land Rover consistently has the lowest customer satisfaction ranking, year after year, of all auto brands in the United States. I believe that is 22nd place, usually trailing Jaguar. Great cars, when they work, which is almost never. Nobody in their right mind would actually depend on one to say, get to work or the airport?
emotionz3 5 months ago
@emotionz3, I maintenance mine and it works, it has not been without problems but I love it because it has great personality. I dont care if you believe me or not, your nobody.
123abcpa 5 months ago
@doomsk8er, If its a race you want my airplane will destroy your civic's and corollas anyday. : )
123abcpa 5 months ago
@123abcpa Maybe I missed something that was posted earlier, but what the F does this have to do with Toyota trucks (i.e., what this video is about)? Have you ever seen a lifted Tacoma that is built up for crawling or drifting/jumping? Doesn't get a lot more exciting and unique than that. Not all Toyotas are boring bare bones econoboxes. p.s., what's your aircraft? MD-11?
cashmab 5 months ago
@cashmab, for work MD11/MD80 training for 80 really, but allready in the 11.
123abcpa 5 months ago
@FordMaverickFanatic The money ends up going to Japan? You mean the American workers in the American Toyota factories don't get paid? Man that's a bummer.
cashmab 5 months ago
@cashmab Totally dude. : )
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doomsk8er 6 months ago
This video just proves common sense.
DodgeRam4Eva 6 months ago in playlist trucks 2
@DodgeRam4Eva no it doesn't
iTsKoNvIcT 6 months ago
Wow do your homework! Tundras are now more AMERICAN MADE than ford!!! 85% to be exact! fords are canadian mexican now. The only thing used in a Tundra that is foriegn are the electronics. ford uses the same asian electronics to. Go find a 5.7 Tundra and an f-150 and do a tow test see who wins! Tundra 10 out of 10 times!
WEST5150CoAsT 7 months ago
@WEST5150CoAsT if you try and pick up a globe you know that blue and green ball, in your class room then turn it till you see the word america you will notice that Canada Mexico and the united states are all in america, and as for your little fantasy about a tow test it is an undisputed fact that ford has the highest in class towing capacity. and i don't mean by you and the peanut gallery i mean by Toyota if you shop around on all four sites nobody has higher #s than ford
fordtoughbear 7 months ago
@fordtoughbear he meant the us not na
iTsKoNvIcT 6 months ago
@iTsKoNvIcT i dont care aint what he said
fordtoughbear 6 months ago
@fordtoughbear actually chevy did multiple test and although ford had better numbers on paper chevy out perfored for in frame twist, accelerting on a incline pulling a trailer, brake fade, exhaust brake, and overall towing. Ford had better numbers on paper but chevy out performed them. just go to vvvvvv.chevy.c0m/hd-to-hd-truck-comparison and u will know what i mean
jacobdorp 6 months ago
@jacobdorp well seeing how we're looking at the 1500 series i dont see the relevance and also im kind of curious to know why chevy didn't use the same trucks for all those tests
fordtoughbear 6 months ago
@fordtoughbear basically ford makes a better 1/2 ton but chevy makes a better 3/4 and 1 ton
jacobdorp 6 months ago
@jacobdorp of course if its tested by chevy theyre not gonna let ford win theyre gonna put out fake shit. look at independent lab tests. ford outperforms
QuackStacker12 6 months ago
@jacobdorp hey smart one, the testes you are telling people to look up are for the heavy duties. this test is on the light duty or half tons. not 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. BTW why did they not test the Chevy gas vs Ford/Dodge gas?
TheMratom23 5 months ago
@TheMratom23 i know i said that it was for 3/4 ton and 1 ton and what do u mean chevy gas vs ford gas
jacobdorp 5 months ago
@jacobdorp yeah did they not want us to see something?
TheMratom23 5 months ago
@TheMratom23 like i said before ford has a better 1/2 ton and chevy has a better 3/4 and 1 ton and dodge just sucks period.
jacobdorp 5 months ago
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@fordtoughbear actually chevy did multiple test and although ford had better numbers on paper chevy out perfored for in frame twist, accelerting on a incline pulling a trailer, brake fade, exhaust brake, and overall towing. Ford had better numbers on paper but chevy out performed them. just go to vvvvvv.chevy.c0m/hd-to-hd-truck-comparison and u will know what i mean
jacobdorp 6 months ago
@WEST5150CoAsT So, is Nike a Chinese shoe company? Man, the morons are YouTube multiply ten fold daily. Sir, you are a prime example.
bisquik3006 6 months ago
@WEST5150CoAsT since when did toyota become american ?...well if you want to look at it that way then toyota takes more american money out of this country then it leaves behind ...and look a few things up ,,ford is global like toyota...and ford still builds vehicles in america ..and this might brake your toyota cheerleading heart but even toyota use's mexican parts on there mighty american made japanese truck ....ouch ..
390merc65 6 months ago