Your book was absolutely amazing.All my life I tried to explain to others why I am vegetarian, and how to convince people I wasn't crazy to think that it's because of animal rights. Not just for their own welfare but also our own. I'm from an almost carnivorous country, always hungry and always consuming ignorantly. I draw parallels from what you say to Adam Zoretsky. It's not just about their "feelings" (condescending voice).This book meant so much to me, I just want to show it to everyone!
he's incorrect where he says that most people know that it's bad for the environment. most people i've discussed it with assumed that if we at nothing but plants, we'd destroy all the rainforests to make space to grow crops. of course this is shallow, fallacious thinking, but it's just not true that the environmental benefits of veganism are universal.
@Rainzkul Having to "destroy all the rainforest to make space to grow crops"? What about all the crops needed to feed animals (in stead of people) to produce meat? Universal/global environmental benefits from veganism can be argued, but that's not the same as beeing "not just true".
Ok, I'm allergic to all soy products, I'm sure a lot of people are, since it's not natural. Plus soy contains a lot of estrogen. So what are we going to do...Eat nuts the rest of your life?..I wish it was enough, but it's not. Even vegetables have a lot pesticides and have been genetically manipulated to serve the hunger of today's demanding world. What do you suggest for poor man like me? buy organic food with the skin of my teeth? or spend the rest of my life thinking how I should eat food? :/
@toobamatooba you don't have to stop eating meat, just cutting it out for one or two meals a week is good. I personally don't like the taste of soy products. Besides nuts for protein, which you mentioned, there is spinach, broccoli, chickpeas and other types of beans, even cheese and milk.
So basically he's got grandma / mommy issues, and he's ignorant about farming. And when it came to teaching his own child about cooking, he pussied about dealing with raw meat and cried and wrote a book. What an EMO CUNT.
His book has 60 pages of references for the statistics and facts he states throughout it.
His solution is go veg. If you can't do that cool - but have a read around the other comments and this one and you'll find a whole bunch of people partaking in this solution.
Another self-righteous Big City Lefty...this is "bad" for the environment, "bad" for the animals yada yada....these Green-ies always present a one-sided problem but never a plausible solution. I wonder what his views on man made birth control in our water and the fact that many plant-based foods have more toxins in them than meat does....His book is riddled with Foer-opinion, not much statistic or fact
@atifchaves Yes this book is full of opinion - it's a personal account - your post is full of your opinion - this post is full of my opinion. The book has 60 pages of references. His plausible solution is to not eat meat. I partake in this solution and it's one of the most rewarding lifestyle choices I've made - even when not considering the ethical reasons.
@atifchaves His opinion is just the one that disagrees with yours.
His book has 60 pages of references for the statistics and facts he states throughout it.
His solution is go veg. If you can't do that cool - but have a read around the other comments and this one and you'll find a whole bunch of people partaking in this solution.
@atifchaves I was with you until the Conspiracy Theorist BULLSHIT. There's no 'birth control in the water' and there's no 'toxins' in vegetables, other than the chemicals they are sprayed with and I eat plenty of those to no ill effects. I also eat lots of meat and fruit as well as vegetables. Stick to the facts, not your wacko science because you were ACTUALLY making a good point originally.
@InvisiMan2006 Meat and dairy products are HEALTHY. Dairy posters? Wow what a crime!!! Milk contains calcium and Vitamin D, HEALTHY. Pork is a lean meat and an incredible source of protein, HEALTHY. Why do you think they're so heavily promoted? It must be hell forcing healthy choices on children...especially milk, a vegetarian approved product.
okay so you like eating meat and drinking milk and don't want others to question that because it's healthy and if the majority of people would suddenly turn vegetarian that would be weird and they would have been manipulated because there's no need to be a vegetarian. They sshould shut the hell up because their point of view is just rediciulous... .... .... ?
@littlexbluebutterfly I never said anything even remotely like that. Being vegetarian is FINE and I don't just go around bashing people for their choice. However when vegans and vegetarians shout to the world that's their choice because animal production is BAD and tries to expose all the "BAD" things about it. That's where I take offense. Vegetarian? Fine. Don't attempt to ruin eating meat for everyone else.
All this book does is close minds to facts. He claims to have researched everything, yet all of his facts start with "More than 98%" or "More than 99%". If you choose to be vegetarian or vegan, that's fine but it doesn't mean you need to force your biased views on the mass public. Obviously you don't see many farmers out there writing books titled "Eat Pork" or "Eat Corn", but that's probably because they're doing their JOB...their life's work...FEEDING AMERICA.
@xBoilerUpx Excuse me? Do you realize how many hundreds of millions of dollars the meat and dairy industry puts into advertising their products? My kids school has dairy posters on the walls and they give out "pork farming" coloring books to kids in kindergarden. Talk about forcing biased views! If you believe it's morally wrong to beat a dog, then eating farm animals is no different. Go vegan, it's easy and it's the morally right thing to do.
I've been a vegetarian for 6 years. Found it very easy actually to be vegetarian, straight away. I was surprised. I'm almost vegan. Haven't drank cow's milk or eaten eggs in over a year. The alternatives are so much nicer, and healthier, and to be honest, the very thought of drinking cow's milk and eggs turns my stomach. I still have some cheese in my diet - mainly feta cheese - does that mean I'm not 100% vegan? :-)
I became a vegan 100 pages into Eating Animals. It is significantly easier to give up meat, eggs, and milk, when thinking about how they are produced makes me feel sick to the stomach.
From Mr. Foer's comments. I would not touch any foreign beef with a 10 foot pole. Especially English beef. There have been many reports of diseases from England. However, US beef is strictly monitored. An occassional illness may fall through the millions of cattle processed every year. But very few sick beef cattle are processed in today's world in the USA. We would all know it!
OK. I am only going to keep my beef cattle in the feedyard for one month. You can't do it!! For 9 months they have to be somewhere else. So you have to plant wheat, which isn't cheap if you have priced land, tractors, seed trucks, or you rent someone elses wheat and put your cattle on.Which destroys their wheat crop, but feeds your cattle. Its expensive too. Beef cattle have to be healthy or the government inspectors yank them right off the auction block!! The only option is pastureland
No one in the beef industry can keep their cattle in a feedyard. They can't afford it!!The point is to get them big/healthy and the agricultural department staffers are standing over the action site checking for the smallest sign of sickness. Beef cattle are sold yearly. Dairy cattle are held until they are dead. Pigs apparently no one cares about. Which is very sad. Go to a pig farm. There is your abuse. Mr. Foer is just looking for publicity and notoriety and that makes me sad.
Beef cattle calculator. A new calf costs $200 minimum. If you put it in a feedyard, its $400 a month minimum. There is no way that calf is big enough to sale 10 months to a year. $400 * 10 = $4000. Look at cattle prices. You are lucky to get $2000 for your calf when its full grown. You just lost $2200 on one calf. Ok. Small timer. Lets say you have a 100 calves, which is still so small you can't call yourself a cattleman. Now you lost $220,000.00!!! How long will the bank support you?
Last month was planting season and I was able to visit for over a month with many cattle ranchers. They tried boarding their cattle in feedyards, but it is way to expensive. No one ever made money at it and laughed at the newby ranchers who tried. They scoffed at the dairy cattle. They dont even get the privilege of being called ranchers. They run the nasty dairy farm.
Drinking milk from dairy cattle does concern me. There is a dairy farm in our county. Everyone hates it. Just like pig farms. They are horrible. Bacon? Ham? Pig farms are much worse than dairy farms. They are all bad. But beef cattle are not treated the same way.
@natija08 you can try all you want to be ethical but by the very fact of using a computer you have feed into an industry that uses slave or child labor, mines for minerals and pollutes the earth, unless your computer is made of recycled cardboard you have just made life miserable for a person because of your choices. That equals out how many chickens you have saved. You are still a part of this machine no matter how much you pat yourself on the back your morals and ethics are self serving
Let's fight against slavery, child labor and pollution too. We need stricter laws to save humans and the environment.
I buy only organic food and clothes and I don't eat animals and animal products. This is a very good start to save the world. If everybody would do so, this world would be a much better place.
@natija08 if you want to read a book about actually having to put your values to the test and change things that you find horrible in the world read the autobiography of malcolm x, it has a bit more to do with ethical social change that isn't as easy as changing your diet in a country where food is plentiful and money is no object. remember the choice not to eat meat is a very easy thing to do. ask yourself how something so easy could possibly be so important
As an US-citizen you live in a country where food is plentiful too. It is well known that US-citizens eat a lot of meat (much more than Germans) and consume more energy than any other people of the world.
In the USA the laws are so that poor people have the "freedom" to die, if they aren't able to earn enough money. You should do your best to change your system of nearly pure capitalism.
I'm about halfway through this book. I think it's great. It's not preachy or self righteous, it simply presents a lot of info that most people don't know. I've just finished reading about how much waste animal farming is producing, and I sort of got depressed about it. Up till then I hoped that things would change and we would find better ways of doing things, but this has really filled me with despair! Are we too far gone? Anyway, it really made me feel like I have to do something about it.
Unter diesem Motto der Agrarindustrie leiden heute rund 150 Mill. Nutztiere in deutschen Ställen. Ob Schwein, Rind, oder Legehenne, ob Pute, Kaninchen oder Ente - sie werden verstümmelt, in enge Ställe oder Käfige gepfercht und mit Medikamenten vollgepumpt. Auf der Strecke bleiben nicht nur das Wohl der Tiere und ihre artgemäße Haltung, sondern auch Qualität, Geschmack und die gesundheitliche Unbedenklichkeit der Produkte.
i love this book. so much. It's incredibly well written, and doesn't force anything on anyone. The fact that people need to know what's in their food is getting more widespread, which is incredibly good. Even though I'm Vegan, it doesn't mean that I hate meat. I just hate the way that it is produced. The animals are not treated like they should, and Foer presents that in this book without saying anything like, " Hey, idiots, it's bad for you, the earth, and the animals..duh." it's reassuring.
Before reading this book I only wanted to learn more about this subject but swore to myself I would not become a vegetarian....that willpower lasted less than 1/2 way through the book. The worst part is when people ask me "why" I went veg when the real question should be "why not"
Lmao there is a comedian in australia named John Safran. He made a video years ago of him making a BLT sandwich. he puts everything on the sandwich except the meat which he has to go get from slaughter house. what followed was about 3 minutes or horror and gore. John safran has a very unique form of humor.
I don't see where it's relevant which human animal writes anything. It would seem more important that we as a self-proclaimed 'superior' species aren't too lazy to ensure that other species do not suffer because of our deliberate ignorance. Taking something to heart should not hinge on human social constructs, but on obvious truths and end results. Does it cause unnecessary pain? That's all we need to know.
@ursusarctosana Plants react to their environment with systems that tell them whether it is day or night, what season it is, where they can grow. Many plants have specialization to specific insects and animals and they evolved together. I think very soon people will be shocked by the fact that plant life too is just as "horrible" to destroy and mass produce as animal life. Honestly if the only difference vegetarians base ethical treatment of life forms is a nervous system, well......
Yes, plants a LIVING BEINGS too. And that's a very good reason to be respectful to them - and another very good argument for a vegan diet, because the animals you eat need about 10 kg of this wonderful plants to build up only 1 kg of their body.
@natija08 How many kg's is your self-righteousness. My point has always been that although not eating animals is a good thing the majority of people who practice not eating animals do it for the wrong reasons. Being ethical and being an asshole are too very different things. You cannot be a modern human and live ethically, every ounce of your being goes into the pain and suffering of something. Running away from that hard fact by pointing fingers and playing pretend world savior is just foolish
@natija08 organic food will never be able to produce the amount of food we need to feed large populations, it is also elitists way of feeling better about all the horrible things they have done and continue to do to people across the globe. most people middle class and poor who live in wealthy nations cannot afford or even have access to organic food. did you even bother to read what I wrote, you just spew the same argument I hear from all finger pointers. callus, uncreative, naive, narcissistic
@natija08 you have a garden? tell me how many people have gardens? that means you either own a home or have property. I bet the majority of those 500,000 people that are vegans are also in the top ten percent of earners and owners of wealth in germany too. my point is that you are just another blowhard with nothing to say but tired arguments and no real answers. dont be ignorant READ what I wrote and then write back. meat is cheap and organic food is not, the majority of people are poor, read
@natija08 well I m 31 and have never owned a car and rent a car drive maybe once a year when visiting family, so there is my contribution to saving the planet. Since automobiles are the main cause of wars, urban sprawl, serious health issues in all areas, global warming etc etc. I just think that this boils down to opinion, people who drive cars have caused more death and destruction to our Earth in a hundred years than the many thousands of us eating meat. Its just and easy out for weak people
Hi, I like your choice to not own a car (which is quite unusual for U.S. citizens I guess) - but even though car production and usage do lots of harm to environment the production of meat (like nowadays) does even more: It adds 40 - 50% to global warming (uses much oil also), it causes millions of acre rain forest to be changed to Soy monoculture and causes many serious illnesses. Don't get me wrong, do what you think is best, I just wanted to correct this one point factually.
@jhegenberg thi is not a normal time in human history, we are very lucky and if things keep happening the way they are I think that worrying about chickens feelings will be the last of our worries. This has happened in industrial societies out of out hatred of ourselves and our lifestyles but has no bearing on animal life. people just want not to feel guilty at the fact that most of the world lives like animals and instead of solving their problems we feel the need to help a chicken not people
@natija08 weak people and weak minds somehow can say that an animal is worth more than a plant but to me they are both equally important and I respect both. the fact I choose to consume both is my choice like it is the choice of a woman to kill an unborn fetus or idiots to pollute our planet with cars. You cannot say you are somehow superior than anyone because of place birth or the choices you make in life. I think that that's what got german's in trouble a few years ago in the first place.
@natija08 I suffer pain as well. every living thing does. but in this society or in some primal state people will seek out whatever gives them energy. I am poor and in a poor society we take what we can to survive. i would take a human life to live as fast as an animals. and i am thankful daily that it does not come down to taking a human life to get food or bread. and it is only an animal or plant that stands between me and a meal. I am thankful daily that we live in this time and no other
I understand that you are poor and you have to struggle a lot to survive.
I don't understand why US-citizens don't change their politics. The Republicans are against every social reform and it seems that there is a majority who supports them. Are they stupid (it is said that a lot of US-citizens know very little about the world)? Are they religious fundamentalists?
From my German view the USA is a violent nation: It is allowed that children own guns and ...
... and the USA started war on Iraq and Afghanistan (where Germany is involved - but not with my support).
I wonder why US-citizens are not willing to pay more taxes so that poor people need not starve or freeze. In Germany there are social assistance for all poor people. They only have to fill in a few papers and get money for living and a warm flat. Your county supports pure capitalism, but that's not good for the poor people.
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This crap...people buy into everything. I grew up around farming and agriculture, this guy never lived outside major cities and majored in PHILOSOPHY. I would take this to heart if a person with an agriculture degree wrote it. I have worked on chicken farms, and seen the slaughterhouses. Yes it is somewhat disturbing but past methods were MUCH more painful to the animal and the allowance of free-running poultry led to high disease rates and stress on the animals (they are frightened easily).
Did you know, if every American tookone serving of meat out of their diet, it would be the same for the environment as taking 5 million cars off the road?
Even if meat IS delicious, the way our country eats it today is not good for us. You can still eat meat, just not as much, and you can make a difference for yourself and for the rest of the world.
@SmileYoureBeautiful it has protein and is way better than other things (except maybe fruit ) it's what older civilizations thrived on obviously they must be doing something right and as far as I know the enviro ment would be full of cranky meat lovers barely getting any protein other than a little bit from their potatoes and beans the real problem is that there's not enough meat farmers in the US and there are way to many services
@SmileYoureBeautiful Really? I'm vegetarian and it would be great if I could use this fact in the future for reasoning with the many I encounter who question my life style.
Could you please show me where you got this fact from so I can find out if there is any truth behind it?
Reading the first pages of "Eating animals" I found myself in a serious dilemma: Continue and probably become a vegetarian after finshing this book or stop reading and ignore the message before it's too late. I did the first and I don't regret. Thank you Jonathan for opening eyes and ears.
Dairy cattle and beef cattle are raised totally different. Beef cattle are the kind you eat. Mr. Foer needs to get his facts straight. His book should be DRINKING MILK!
Where exactly did Jonathon Safran Foer see these cattle? Texas is where most cattle in U.S. come from. I have lived in Tx all my life. I grew up on one of the largest cattle ranches here. We had 8000 cattle. It was pasture land, trees, windmills. Nice place for a cow. Every rancher I have ever seen raises their cattle on pasture land. You know wheat & grass.
So the fact that cattle are raised in horrible environment 99% of the time, is stupid & ludicrous
Oh Jonathan, how I love thee. Upon finding out you were married to another of my favourite authors, Nicole, I was given a newfound hope in true love. Upon reading Eating Animals, I was given a newfound hope in the strength of the human spirit to act consciously and morally for the benefit all living things. I've been feeling like a proselytising pastor lately, trying to get everyone I can to read the book...
i have started a cause for the cruelty of animals in the meat productin industry on facebook. To join simpliy go to facebook causes application and search for the truth about the meat on your plate. PLease join we need much support to end this cruelty!!!! More info about this is listed on the about tab of the cause
@zenmama88 My former AP English teacher is considering having his students read this book next year! Even if you're not a vegetarian, it makes sense to teach from this book simply because it's such a great example of writing talent.
he's so adorable:) I'm in the middle of the book and it's....how do i say this?....amazing! i've been vegetarian for a year now, but reading the book pretty much solidifies my decision.
Read it; it will change the way you look at food and your life.
i have been to his house and he is a very good person!!! i met him because my mom works with him and i would go to work with her and i would talk to him!!!
His journal article about eating dogs was disturbing but seems to be a shock and all tactic to drive book sales. If he was serious I would suggest eating hipsters but figure the meat would be to tainted with possible side effects like wearing skinny jeans and hanging out at Starbucks reading Russian literature.
Your book was absolutely amazing.All my life I tried to explain to others why I am vegetarian, and how to convince people I wasn't crazy to think that it's because of animal rights. Not just for their own welfare but also our own. I'm from an almost carnivorous country, always hungry and always consuming ignorantly. I draw parallels from what you say to Adam Zoretsky. It's not just about their "feelings" (condescending voice).This book meant so much to me, I just want to show it to everyone!
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jsuglia 4 months ago
The grandmother is completely adorable!! Also- the book is awesome. Read it. Loved it. Changed my life.
janibean313 5 months ago 4
he's incorrect where he says that most people know that it's bad for the environment. most people i've discussed it with assumed that if we at nothing but plants, we'd destroy all the rainforests to make space to grow crops. of course this is shallow, fallacious thinking, but it's just not true that the environmental benefits of veganism are universal.
Rainzkul 7 months ago
@Rainzkul Having to "destroy all the rainforest to make space to grow crops"? What about all the crops needed to feed animals (in stead of people) to produce meat? Universal/global environmental benefits from veganism can be argued, but that's not the same as beeing "not just true".
Toggen62 6 months ago
Ok, I'm allergic to all soy products, I'm sure a lot of people are, since it's not natural. Plus soy contains a lot of estrogen. So what are we going to do...Eat nuts the rest of your life?..I wish it was enough, but it's not. Even vegetables have a lot pesticides and have been genetically manipulated to serve the hunger of today's demanding world. What do you suggest for poor man like me? buy organic food with the skin of my teeth? or spend the rest of my life thinking how I should eat food? :/
toobamatooba 8 months ago
@toobamatooba you don't have to stop eating meat, just cutting it out for one or two meals a week is good. I personally don't like the taste of soy products. Besides nuts for protein, which you mentioned, there is spinach, broccoli, chickpeas and other types of beans, even cheese and milk.
vsnod 8 months ago
So basically he's got grandma / mommy issues, and he's ignorant about farming. And when it came to teaching his own child about cooking, he pussied about dealing with raw meat and cried and wrote a book. What an EMO CUNT.
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@atifchaves @atifchaves His opinion is just the one that disagrees with yours.
His book has 60 pages of references for the statistics and facts he states throughout it.
His solution is go veg. If you can't do that cool - but have a read around the other comments and this one and you'll find a whole bunch of people partaking in this solution.
dudeshredrad 9 months ago
Another self-righteous Big City Lefty...this is "bad" for the environment, "bad" for the animals yada yada....these Green-ies always present a one-sided problem but never a plausible solution. I wonder what his views on man made birth control in our water and the fact that many plant-based foods have more toxins in them than meat does....His book is riddled with Foer-opinion, not much statistic or fact
atifchaves 9 months ago
@atifchaves Yes this book is full of opinion - it's a personal account - your post is full of your opinion - this post is full of my opinion. The book has 60 pages of references. His plausible solution is to not eat meat. I partake in this solution and it's one of the most rewarding lifestyle choices I've made - even when not considering the ethical reasons.
dudeshredrad 9 months ago
@dudeshredrad If it's all 'just an opinion' then your post was meaningless.
electronicoffee 9 months ago
@atifchaves His opinion is just the one that disagrees with yours.
His book has 60 pages of references for the statistics and facts he states throughout it.
His solution is go veg. If you can't do that cool - but have a read around the other comments and this one and you'll find a whole bunch of people partaking in this solution.
dudeshredrad 9 months ago
@atifchaves I was with you until the Conspiracy Theorist BULLSHIT. There's no 'birth control in the water' and there's no 'toxins' in vegetables, other than the chemicals they are sprayed with and I eat plenty of those to no ill effects. I also eat lots of meat and fruit as well as vegetables. Stick to the facts, not your wacko science because you were ACTUALLY making a good point originally.
electronicoffee 9 months ago
@atifchaves you obviously have not read the book.
nowthatsgangsta 8 months ago
By far one of the most thought-provoking accounts on eating animals.
Brilliant author!
CDLver 10 months ago 2
Dear Jonathan
My husband and I are wake up. You had made us to Veganer! Thank you very much and also in the name of all animals: Thank you! Good bless you!
HilfkatzeninChina 11 months ago
Lieber Jonathan
Du hast mich und meinen Mann zum Veganer gemacht! Herzlichen Dank! Wir sind aufgewacht!
HilfkatzeninChina 11 months ago
Your sir....is a BOSS!
Tehandpickid 11 months ago
this book made me vegetarian, and Earthlings sent me vegan!
666Ryanocerous 11 months ago
@InvisiMan2006 Meat and dairy products are HEALTHY. Dairy posters? Wow what a crime!!! Milk contains calcium and Vitamin D, HEALTHY. Pork is a lean meat and an incredible source of protein, HEALTHY. Why do you think they're so heavily promoted? It must be hell forcing healthy choices on children...especially milk, a vegetarian approved product.
xBoilerUpx 1 year ago
okay so you like eating meat and drinking milk and don't want others to question that because it's healthy and if the majority of people would suddenly turn vegetarian that would be weird and they would have been manipulated because there's no need to be a vegetarian. They sshould shut the hell up because their point of view is just rediciulous... .... .... ?
littlexbluebutterfly 11 months ago
@littlexbluebutterfly I never said anything even remotely like that. Being vegetarian is FINE and I don't just go around bashing people for their choice. However when vegans and vegetarians shout to the world that's their choice because animal production is BAD and tries to expose all the "BAD" things about it. That's where I take offense. Vegetarian? Fine. Don't attempt to ruin eating meat for everyone else.
xBoilerUpx 11 months ago
All this book does is close minds to facts. He claims to have researched everything, yet all of his facts start with "More than 98%" or "More than 99%". If you choose to be vegetarian or vegan, that's fine but it doesn't mean you need to force your biased views on the mass public. Obviously you don't see many farmers out there writing books titled "Eat Pork" or "Eat Corn", but that's probably because they're doing their JOB...their life's work...FEEDING AMERICA.
xBoilerUpx 1 year ago
@xBoilerUpx Excuse me? Do you realize how many hundreds of millions of dollars the meat and dairy industry puts into advertising their products? My kids school has dairy posters on the walls and they give out "pork farming" coloring books to kids in kindergarden. Talk about forcing biased views! If you believe it's morally wrong to beat a dog, then eating farm animals is no different. Go vegan, it's easy and it's the morally right thing to do.
InvisiMan2006 1 year ago
I've been a vegetarian for 6 years. Found it very easy actually to be vegetarian, straight away. I was surprised. I'm almost vegan. Haven't drank cow's milk or eaten eggs in over a year. The alternatives are so much nicer, and healthier, and to be honest, the very thought of drinking cow's milk and eggs turns my stomach. I still have some cheese in my diet - mainly feta cheese - does that mean I'm not 100% vegan? :-)
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jsuglia 1 year ago
I became a vegan 100 pages into Eating Animals. It is significantly easier to give up meat, eggs, and milk, when thinking about how they are produced makes me feel sick to the stomach.
Rewarp0 1 year ago
I became a vegan 100 pages into Eating Animals. Easy to give up milk and eggs when thinking about them makes me sick.
Rewarp0 1 year ago
i meant to teach your child to not eat things that once had a soul
TheAfroGerman 1 year ago
guess its one of the smartest things to not teach your child eating things that once had a soul.
TheAfroGerman 1 year ago
"A fourth of a bagel..." hahah!
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jsuglia 1 year ago
is it true that cows are skinned alive? why dont they kill them first?
zellfyre 1 year ago
I decided to be vegetarian about a month ago and happy about it. Im 16.
leela194 1 year ago
stop the killing now
TheJUNGLESURFER 1 year ago
I love this guy!
89992 1 year ago
i'm reading this for one of my classes. we also read omnivore's dilemma by michael pollan. i've heard eating animals is much easier to read.
but that might just be because awesome veg storyteller>ignorant, arrogant bastard.
i'm not too fond of pollan, if you couldn't tell.
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Mr. Foer is full of #### and makes me want to throw up!
Superstar3330 1 year ago
From Mr. Foer's comments. I would not touch any foreign beef with a 10 foot pole. Especially English beef. There have been many reports of diseases from England. However, US beef is strictly monitored. An occassional illness may fall through the millions of cattle processed every year. But very few sick beef cattle are processed in today's world in the USA. We would all know it!
Superstar3330 1 year ago
@Superstar3330 All USA beef is sick-pumped full of growth hormones-eat it if you want to grow man boobs!
nandanugent 1 year ago
OK. I am only going to keep my beef cattle in the feedyard for one month. You can't do it!! For 9 months they have to be somewhere else. So you have to plant wheat, which isn't cheap if you have priced land, tractors, seed trucks, or you rent someone elses wheat and put your cattle on.Which destroys their wheat crop, but feeds your cattle. Its expensive too. Beef cattle have to be healthy or the government inspectors yank them right off the auction block!! The only option is pastureland
Superstar3330 1 year ago
No one in the beef industry can keep their cattle in a feedyard. They can't afford it!!The point is to get them big/healthy and the agricultural department staffers are standing over the action site checking for the smallest sign of sickness. Beef cattle are sold yearly. Dairy cattle are held until they are dead. Pigs apparently no one cares about. Which is very sad. Go to a pig farm. There is your abuse. Mr. Foer is just looking for publicity and notoriety and that makes me sad.
Superstar3330 1 year ago
Beef cattle calculator. A new calf costs $200 minimum. If you put it in a feedyard, its $400 a month minimum. There is no way that calf is big enough to sale 10 months to a year. $400 * 10 = $4000. Look at cattle prices. You are lucky to get $2000 for your calf when its full grown. You just lost $2200 on one calf. Ok. Small timer. Lets say you have a 100 calves, which is still so small you can't call yourself a cattleman. Now you lost $220,000.00!!! How long will the bank support you?
Superstar3330 1 year ago
Last month was planting season and I was able to visit for over a month with many cattle ranchers. They tried boarding their cattle in feedyards, but it is way to expensive. No one ever made money at it and laughed at the newby ranchers who tried. They scoffed at the dairy cattle. They dont even get the privilege of being called ranchers. They run the nasty dairy farm.
Superstar3330 1 year ago
But Mr. Foer addressed all beef and that is not correct.
Superstar3330 1 year ago
Drinking milk from dairy cattle does concern me. There is a dairy farm in our county. Everyone hates it. Just like pig farms. They are horrible. Bacon? Ham? Pig farms are much worse than dairy farms. They are all bad. But beef cattle are not treated the same way.
Superstar3330 1 year ago
I wish and hope that this book has millions of millions of readers all over the world.
Jonathan, your very good work helps to make the world a better place.
Thank you.
Love and Peace to you.
natija08 1 year ago 2
@natija08 you can try all you want to be ethical but by the very fact of using a computer you have feed into an industry that uses slave or child labor, mines for minerals and pollutes the earth, unless your computer is made of recycled cardboard you have just made life miserable for a person because of your choices. That equals out how many chickens you have saved. You are still a part of this machine no matter how much you pat yourself on the back your morals and ethics are self serving
meganovatron 1 year ago
@meganovatron
Let's fight against slavery, child labor and pollution too. We need stricter laws to save humans and the environment.
I buy only organic food and clothes and I don't eat animals and animal products. This is a very good start to save the world. If everybody would do so, this world would be a much better place.
natija08 1 year ago
@natija08 if you want to read a book about actually having to put your values to the test and change things that you find horrible in the world read the autobiography of malcolm x, it has a bit more to do with ethical social change that isn't as easy as changing your diet in a country where food is plentiful and money is no object. remember the choice not to eat meat is a very easy thing to do. ask yourself how something so easy could possibly be so important
meganovatron 1 year ago
@meganovatron
If it was really so easy, to change your diet into veganism, please tell me, why do people eat such huge amounts of meat?
In Germany we are perhaps 500.00 vegans (if so many) in a population of 82 million people.
Why ?
Billions of animals suffer day after day in bad conditions and are killed often very cruelly. Who gives them a voice?
You should watch the film "Earthling" to get a glimpse of what happens to animals in their man-created world.
Look behind the bars.
natija08 1 year ago 2
@meganovatron
As an US-citizen you live in a country where food is plentiful too. It is well known that US-citizens eat a lot of meat (much more than Germans) and consume more energy than any other people of the world.
In the USA the laws are so that poor people have the "freedom" to die, if they aren't able to earn enough money. You should do your best to change your system of nearly pure capitalism.
The meat industry is part of the system.
natija08 8 months ago
@meganovatron
Do you want to say that we should do nothing?
natija08 8 months ago
great!
nellie2581 1 year ago
I'm about halfway through this book. I think it's great. It's not preachy or self righteous, it simply presents a lot of info that most people don't know. I've just finished reading about how much waste animal farming is producing, and I sort of got depressed about it. Up till then I hoped that things would change and we would find better ways of doing things, but this has really filled me with despair! Are we too far gone? Anyway, it really made me feel like I have to do something about it.
spikutus 1 year ago
ahah great book! thts excatly how i imagined the author! ahah
theusedjosh 1 year ago
Größer - schneller - billiger:
Unter diesem Motto der Agrarindustrie leiden heute rund 150 Mill. Nutztiere in deutschen Ställen. Ob Schwein, Rind, oder Legehenne, ob Pute, Kaninchen oder Ente - sie werden verstümmelt, in enge Ställe oder Käfige gepfercht und mit Medikamenten vollgepumpt. Auf der Strecke bleiben nicht nur das Wohl der Tiere und ihre artgemäße Haltung, sondern auch Qualität, Geschmack und die gesundheitliche Unbedenklichkeit der Produkte.
fuerTiere 1 year ago
i love this book. so much. It's incredibly well written, and doesn't force anything on anyone. The fact that people need to know what's in their food is getting more widespread, which is incredibly good. Even though I'm Vegan, it doesn't mean that I hate meat. I just hate the way that it is produced. The animals are not treated like they should, and Foer presents that in this book without saying anything like, " Hey, idiots, it's bad for you, the earth, and the animals..duh." it's reassuring.
iammagnetic 1 year ago
Of course, you would remain consistent if you would just eat George.
flinkin 1 year ago
this is a beautifully made wee thing...well done whoever made it
Rowanl 1 year ago
Before reading this book I only wanted to learn more about this subject but swore to myself I would not become a vegetarian....that willpower lasted less than 1/2 way through the book. The worst part is when people ask me "why" I went veg when the real question should be "why not"
janibean313 1 year ago 2
Great book.
Ahasuer 1 year ago
Lmao there is a comedian in australia named John Safran. He made a video years ago of him making a BLT sandwich. he puts everything on the sandwich except the meat which he has to go get from slaughter house. what followed was about 3 minutes or horror and gore. John safran has a very unique form of humor.
deicidalmaniac 1 year ago
I don't see where it's relevant which human animal writes anything. It would seem more important that we as a self-proclaimed 'superior' species aren't too lazy to ensure that other species do not suffer because of our deliberate ignorance. Taking something to heart should not hinge on human social constructs, but on obvious truths and end results. Does it cause unnecessary pain? That's all we need to know.
ursusarctosana 1 year ago
@ursusarctosana Plants react to their environment with systems that tell them whether it is day or night, what season it is, where they can grow. Many plants have specialization to specific insects and animals and they evolved together. I think very soon people will be shocked by the fact that plant life too is just as "horrible" to destroy and mass produce as animal life. Honestly if the only difference vegetarians base ethical treatment of life forms is a nervous system, well......
meganovatron 1 year ago
@meganovatron
Yes, plants a LIVING BEINGS too. And that's a very good reason to be respectful to them - and another very good argument for a vegan diet, because the animals you eat need about 10 kg of this wonderful plants to build up only 1 kg of their body.
So vegans save animals AND plants too.
natija08 1 year ago
@natija08 How many kg's is your self-righteousness. My point has always been that although not eating animals is a good thing the majority of people who practice not eating animals do it for the wrong reasons. Being ethical and being an asshole are too very different things. You cannot be a modern human and live ethically, every ounce of your being goes into the pain and suffering of something. Running away from that hard fact by pointing fingers and playing pretend world savior is just foolish
meganovatron 1 year ago
@meganovatron
What do you want to say?
Do you want to justify your consumption of meat by pointing out that even vegans are responsible for the death of animals (like insects)?
Do you know that BILLIONS of animals (vertebrates!) are killed for the consumption of meat every year?
If we wouldn't eat animals we would save billions of lives!
And you say, this is nothing?
THAT'S foolish.
natija08 1 year ago
@natija08 organic food will never be able to produce the amount of food we need to feed large populations, it is also elitists way of feeling better about all the horrible things they have done and continue to do to people across the globe. most people middle class and poor who live in wealthy nations cannot afford or even have access to organic food. did you even bother to read what I wrote, you just spew the same argument I hear from all finger pointers. callus, uncreative, naive, narcissistic
meganovatron 1 year ago
@meganovatron
Sorry, but that's wrong. It has nothing to do with "wealthy nations". I can produce organic food in my small garden.
If we wouldn't feed such huge amounts of food to animals it would be very easy to feed the world with organic food.
You seem to believe the propaganda of Monsanto and Co.
Tell me, what do YOU do to make the world a better place?
natija08 1 year ago
@natija08 you have a garden? tell me how many people have gardens? that means you either own a home or have property. I bet the majority of those 500,000 people that are vegans are also in the top ten percent of earners and owners of wealth in germany too. my point is that you are just another blowhard with nothing to say but tired arguments and no real answers. dont be ignorant READ what I wrote and then write back. meat is cheap and organic food is not, the majority of people are poor, read
meganovatron 1 year ago
@meganovatron
I have a garden of 40 qm. I'm not rich. I live in a small flat, drive a very small car and go to work 5 days a week.
Vegans aren't the top earners and owners of wealth in Germany - on the opposite!
Yes, meat is cheap. It is so, because animals are forced to live in very bad conditions and the meat industry gets a lot of money from the Government.
In the Roman Empire it is said: It's easy to rule the people with bread and games. In the US bread is junk food and games is TV.
natija08 8 months ago
@natija08 well I m 31 and have never owned a car and rent a car drive maybe once a year when visiting family, so there is my contribution to saving the planet. Since automobiles are the main cause of wars, urban sprawl, serious health issues in all areas, global warming etc etc. I just think that this boils down to opinion, people who drive cars have caused more death and destruction to our Earth in a hundred years than the many thousands of us eating meat. Its just and easy out for weak people
meganovatron 8 months ago
@meganovatron
You have no car - very good decision.
And you are right: The destructions cars make are huge.
But I think you aren't well informed about the destructions the meat industry makes.
natija08 8 months ago
@meganovatron
Hi, I like your choice to not own a car (which is quite unusual for U.S. citizens I guess) - but even though car production and usage do lots of harm to environment the production of meat (like nowadays) does even more: It adds 40 - 50% to global warming (uses much oil also), it causes millions of acre rain forest to be changed to Soy monoculture and causes many serious illnesses. Don't get me wrong, do what you think is best, I just wanted to correct this one point factually.
jhegenberg 8 months ago
@jhegenberg thi is not a normal time in human history, we are very lucky and if things keep happening the way they are I think that worrying about chickens feelings will be the last of our worries. This has happened in industrial societies out of out hatred of ourselves and our lifestyles but has no bearing on animal life. people just want not to feel guilty at the fact that most of the world lives like animals and instead of solving their problems we feel the need to help a chicken not people
meganovatron 7 months ago
@natija08 weak people and weak minds somehow can say that an animal is worth more than a plant but to me they are both equally important and I respect both. the fact I choose to consume both is my choice like it is the choice of a woman to kill an unborn fetus or idiots to pollute our planet with cars. You cannot say you are somehow superior than anyone because of place birth or the choices you make in life. I think that that's what got german's in trouble a few years ago in the first place.
meganovatron 8 months ago
@meganovatron
I think you know that animals can suffer pain, plants not, don't you?
I never said that I'm superior to others. The human rights should be respected in all countries of the world. Unfortunately they aren't.
I'm not against your rights, but I'm against torturing animals. In my opinion they have the right to live as we have.
natija08 8 months ago 6
@natija08 I suffer pain as well. every living thing does. but in this society or in some primal state people will seek out whatever gives them energy. I am poor and in a poor society we take what we can to survive. i would take a human life to live as fast as an animals. and i am thankful daily that it does not come down to taking a human life to get food or bread. and it is only an animal or plant that stands between me and a meal. I am thankful daily that we live in this time and no other
meganovatron 7 months ago
@meganovatron
I understand that you are poor and you have to struggle a lot to survive.
I don't understand why US-citizens don't change their politics. The Republicans are against every social reform and it seems that there is a majority who supports them. Are they stupid (it is said that a lot of US-citizens know very little about the world)? Are they religious fundamentalists?
From my German view the USA is a violent nation: It is allowed that children own guns and ...
natija08 7 months ago
@meganovatron - part 2
... and the USA started war on Iraq and Afghanistan (where Germany is involved - but not with my support).
I wonder why US-citizens are not willing to pay more taxes so that poor people need not starve or freeze. In Germany there are social assistance for all poor people. They only have to fill in a few papers and get money for living and a warm flat. Your county supports pure capitalism, but that's not good for the poor people.
natija08 7 months ago
@meganovatron - part 3
Do you know Michael Moore? I love his documentations.
natija08 7 months ago
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This crap...people buy into everything. I grew up around farming and agriculture, this guy never lived outside major cities and majored in PHILOSOPHY. I would take this to heart if a person with an agriculture degree wrote it. I have worked on chicken farms, and seen the slaughterhouses. Yes it is somewhat disturbing but past methods were MUCH more painful to the animal and the allowance of free-running poultry led to high disease rates and stress on the animals (they are frightened easily).
brewskhee 1 year ago
@brewskhee read the book before you judge it, brewskhee.
Nephtys80 1 year ago 7
@brewskhee thats true i've seen chicken accidents with free roam chickens
valstar1000 1 year ago
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i can read whatever i want, i doesnt matter if meat is "bad" for people, or the industry is "bad" or whatever.
there is one simple reason why i never become a vegeterian:
meat taste godlike
simple as that
123Nikodemus 2 years ago
Did you know, if every American tookone serving of meat out of their diet, it would be the same for the environment as taking 5 million cars off the road?
Even if meat IS delicious, the way our country eats it today is not good for us. You can still eat meat, just not as much, and you can make a difference for yourself and for the rest of the world.
SmileYoureBeautiful 2 years ago 18
@SmileYoureBeautiful it has protein and is way better than other things (except maybe fruit ) it's what older civilizations thrived on obviously they must be doing something right and as far as I know the enviro ment would be full of cranky meat lovers barely getting any protein other than a little bit from their potatoes and beans the real problem is that there's not enough meat farmers in the US and there are way to many services
valstar1000 1 year ago
@SmileYoureBeautiful but the other thing is that people are not eating enough other things
valstar1000 1 year ago
@SmileYoureBeautiful You now that agriculture accounts for 50 percent or more of all pollution in our streams and rivers right?
meganovatron 1 year ago 2
@SmileYoureBeautiful Really? I'm vegetarian and it would be great if I could use this fact in the future for reasoning with the many I encounter who question my life style.
Could you please show me where you got this fact from so I can find out if there is any truth behind it?
Thanks!
echoingheads 4 months ago
@echoingheads Foer says it at the end of this video: watch?v=tATqTV2Mtfs
He probably talks about it in his book too. I don't know for sure 'cause I started reading it yesterday :)
Elhemina88 4 months ago
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hydeadmirer78 2 years ago
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hydeadmirer78 2 years ago
The book is BRILLIANT. Thanks JSF!
hydeadmirer78 2 years ago 2
Vegetarian chopped liver! That's a staple at my grandparents' house.
exsentrikk 2 years ago
superstar333 doesnt understand global farming methods!
TSM9356 2 years ago
is that george in the video?
superb book
TSM9356 2 years ago
Reading the first pages of "Eating animals" I found myself in a serious dilemma: Continue and probably become a vegetarian after finshing this book or stop reading and ignore the message before it's too late. I did the first and I don't regret. Thank you Jonathan for opening eyes and ears.
PeterVonkZwolle 2 years ago 67
@PeterVonkZwolle So true, and in my case I would say "Continue and surely become a vegetarian before finishing this book"!
marianasilverio 1 year ago
Dairy cattle and beef cattle are raised totally different. Beef cattle are the kind you eat. Mr. Foer needs to get his facts straight. His book should be DRINKING MILK!
Superstar3330 2 years ago
@Superstar3330 So drinking milk from cattle pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics doesn't concern you? Seriously?
kolbeer 1 year ago
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Where exactly did Jonathon Safran Foer see these cattle? Texas is where most cattle in U.S. come from. I have lived in Tx all my life. I grew up on one of the largest cattle ranches here. We had 8000 cattle. It was pasture land, trees, windmills. Nice place for a cow. Every rancher I have ever seen raises their cattle on pasture land. You know wheat & grass.
So the fact that cattle are raised in horrible environment 99% of the time, is stupid & ludicrous
Superstar3330 2 years ago
Oh Jonathan, how I love thee. Upon finding out you were married to another of my favourite authors, Nicole, I was given a newfound hope in true love. Upon reading Eating Animals, I was given a newfound hope in the strength of the human spirit to act consciously and morally for the benefit all living things. I've been feeling like a proselytising pastor lately, trying to get everyone I can to read the book...
shimshimminy 2 years ago
Great book, seriously.
yourheroxyz 2 years ago 3
i have started a cause for the cruelty of animals in the meat productin industry on facebook. To join simpliy go to facebook causes application and search for the truth about the meat on your plate. PLease join we need much support to end this cruelty!!!! More info about this is listed on the about tab of the cause
sarahbeth247 2 years ago
GENIUS...just saw him on Ellen...many thanks for posting!
LaVerne37 2 years ago 4
This book will change your life. free your conscience, and extend your life. Read it.
humanze 2 years ago 6
My sister is vegan about 7 years now. She is very happy and healthy. I am changing too.
I must say that there is a lot of prejudice going around from meat eaters.
I have seem more vegan restaurants opening or some have a menu option for vegan.
lialammas 2 years ago
This book should be a textbook in schools.
zenmama88 2 years ago 84
@zenmama88 My former AP English teacher is considering having his students read this book next year! Even if you're not a vegetarian, it makes sense to teach from this book simply because it's such a great example of writing talent.
caseyrunn 1 year ago
@zenmama88
it will be soon. well at least one school
TheSnapmovies 10 months ago
he's so adorable:) I'm in the middle of the book and it's....how do i say this?....amazing! i've been vegetarian for a year now, but reading the book pretty much solidifies my decision.
Read it; it will change the way you look at food and your life.
KennilworthyWhisp 2 years ago
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famousmermaid 2 years ago
did this guy name his son sasha to be ironic because americans think it's a girl's name? because it's actually a boy's name
JKDflash85 2 years ago
This book will change the way you feel about food and meat. Trust me READ IT
ecogirl18 2 years ago
I love this book!
Ann315 2 years ago
i actually know jonathan and his family!!
i have been to his house and he is a very good person!!! i met him because my mom works with him and i would go to work with her and i would talk to him!!!
sopy121 2 years ago
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Hipsters are fucking douches.
equitywolf 2 years ago
I think this book seems ULTRA lame. Lets be honest.
equitywolf 2 years ago
read it first
alepinol 2 years ago
I actually read your comment and it is ULTRA lame. In all honesty.
cashmatt 2 years ago
bought the book today, as a vegetarian i cant wait to read it !!
OMFGZmissy 2 years ago
JSF is my favorite author. He writes brilliantly, and I can't wait to read this next one. I've waited so long for a new JSF book.
mcmahonnequin 2 years ago 3
i think i may get this book
racergonemad99 2 years ago
His journal article about eating dogs was disturbing but seems to be a shock and all tactic to drive book sales. If he was serious I would suggest eating hipsters but figure the meat would be to tainted with possible side effects like wearing skinny jeans and hanging out at Starbucks reading Russian literature.
ggotch1 2 years ago
ha ha
alepinol 2 years ago
" shock and all"?
HolyCity2012 2 years ago
"We believed in her cooking more fervently than we believed in God." - HILARIOUS!!!
AdamLeventhal 2 years ago 2
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people want to eat animals.. for thousands of years...when you are dead and gone and your books are all yellow and fading..
people are going to eat animals....
so whatsthe point?
rrmoh 2 years ago
Excellent video. I can't wait for the book to come out. Can I pre-order?
era404creative 2 years ago 4