It is amazing! More than 36,000 have watched the video, 60 people have commented pro ad, a few have acknowledged there is a problem but have commented con ad (in a mature way), 223 people have liked the link, and ONLY ONE immature Douche bag has disliked the video.
I know a Haitian woman who graduated from a University in Florida as a respiratory therapist, and Canada won't recognize her credentials - from Florida???
No idea about Canada, but some of these instances, at least in the US, are due to licensing requirements. The foreign doctor would end up driving cabs because the AMA requires practicing doctors to attend American med schools. Look up the literature on licensing, Milton Friedman did work on it, a lot of it had to due with doctors wanting to keep immigrants from "taking" their jobs.
Don't worry, immigrant friends...some Canadians can't even find work after years of University. I entirely support foreign credential acknowledgment and it has been a dream of mine to see partnerships between our countries blossom.
BTW my dad was a Physicist from Moscow State U (MGU), worked on Swiss Collider and so on. After coming to Canada he was working on the construction sites for over 5 years now.
lived in Canada for 8 years and managed to learn their approach very well. 1) if you don't go through Canadian system (they assume theirs is the best way petty fks) you are in no luck of finding an adequate job. If you come you'll have to start over. 2) They are quite bizarre folks, they are awful tight and never take risks. That's why they lag compared to US. I'm here now and I can relate to Americans much better.
Canada is a dump country, thats why in Quebec we autimaticly reconize degrees from France and other europeen countries. The canadiens are too dumb qnyw
@jcmyrand :The situation in Quebec is slightly the same. Some degrees are "recognized" just to get in masters programs, but not for jobs. Some professions as doctors and engineers are regulated and controlled by professional orders, so in this cases there are not "automatic" recognition.
@jcmyrand Go tell that to my mom who had to start university all over again, got a masters degree in microbiology and still can't find a job because of the professionnal order and because she doesn't have a french name
@sjalali1990 its true. i met this engineer who did his first two years of engineering at the University of Melbourne and when he transferred back to Canada, the university of calgary made him re do his first two years because they said they don't recognize University of Melbourne.
These spots are excellent ...as a Canadian citizen who did elementry, highschool in Canada then got a bacholars and after wards decieded to go and medical degree in the US I can't even come back and practice in Canada without jumping through a million hoops...I've just become so tired of it tat I've decieded to stay in the US... Canada needs to wake up fast cus if not it's going lose some of it's best and brights bc off all the b/s red tape
I met a cab driver who was an engineer in India and a dept store sales associate who was an architect in Colombia. They both said their credentials weren't recognized and couldn't find jobs here in Canada :(
who dislikes this? The McDonald manager who wants to hire immigrant professionals because they would take that job more serious than a 16 year old kid?
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"If the qualifications of the immigrants in Canada were fake or worthless in the West, they would had never made it through the Canadian immigration points system."
Are you honestly this naive? Most of them lie outright about their credentials or buy their "degree" from diploma mills. Canada has done and EXCELLENT job of sorting out the shams. Notice please that those with REAL education get in and are very welcome here. Those that can't cut the mustard, drive cabs and push a mop.
@Blacksmith1964 are you sure you know what were're talking about? Do you understand how you push a mob? There're always people who buy their degree from 'diploma mills' as you call it. But we're talking about the doctors and engineers and many other professionals who've been working in their countries since 10 or more years.I would like to read your opinion when you're ill and sick and you need desperately a doctor here in Canada...
Unfortunately it is true, the govt was not prepare to co-op with the number of immigrants coming in, no plans has been put to fit the qualities in their fields and the top of all they don't want to upset the syndicates or disturb the income of certain group. It is a shame to see drs., pharmacists, engineers and scientists in the streets doing unqualified jobs where considerable areas needs their expertise. The most hated word "You don't have Canadian experience"
not all taxi drivers are Doctors, nor all doctors are driving taxi.
why engineers are hasitating to appear in certification of their proffesions.
canada is a developed country it is not easy to get into your career immediatly. but life in canada is much better then other parts of the world, where u can get a career job but nothing else.
This is so true. All my love and hugs to those people who live this life kind of life for years or even forever . You will never understand till you have lived this life...
This video reminds me of my old days in Canada. It took me about 2 years to get into my profession and guess what, I had to start from the beginning even though I have about 5+ years of experience back home.
@NoJusticeNoPeace You know, I didn't notice the moral valence of the comparison between intellectual labour and manual labour until you mentioned it, thank you!
@NoJusticeNoPeace I 100% agree. This PSA could have handled it differently. But then in capitalistic economies these jobs will never be seen in good light.
have to be careful, a doctor in most of these countries is not the same as here. a "doctor of opthamology" in russia is just a contact lens dispenser, by actual comparison.
we need to recognize more credentials at the level they actually make sense... and offer upgrading incentives to our much higher standards. not just recognize banana republic training as equivalent here because we have a shortage of professionals which is our own fault.. because government cuts training spaces for years.
@adhdcanuck First check spelling, then Google Svyatoslav Fyodorov.
When trying being smart, check your facts first.
A typical doctor in Canada is just an antibiotics dispenser - by a FACTUAL comparison with rare exceptions. I waited more than half a year to get consultation from "one of the best" Montreal's ophthalmologist, who failed to determine what's wrong but charged me for eye drops and said that I'm alright when I wasn't.
I could ask the same question for Australia.... My Palestinian husband is a qualified electrical engineer yet he has been working in a convenience store pretty much the whole time he has lived in Australia.
Making immigrants study again is a way for the less populated but rich countries to gain labourers as well as get money into their economy through inflated international fees. I have to pay three times the fees as an international student in Australia as a citizen does. For something I already know.
Making immigrants study again is a way for the less populated but rich countries to gain labourers as well as get money into their economy through inflated international fees. I have to pay three times the fees as an international student in Australia as a citizen does. For something I already know.
Canada thinks its too good for non-Canadian doctors/engineers....give it up! They act as if a Medical students from other countries treat other species and dont know how to treat humans...Canada a great country...ya right.
My brothe is an engineer and had experience too but couldnt a job so he went for a master degree while working at parking lot and shoe store and after same thing so he left Canada
@azzuri09 He did the best thing trust me... Canada Sucks... been living here for 14 years and going back to my own country for good... at least they respect me for whoever I am !
My father is a Doctor as well as my mom who worked in Dubai over 25 years, that's 2 Phd which they acquired in Germany....We came to Canada and my dad is a mechanic making 350$ a week and my mom is a house wife because she can't find a job...You lack doctors? Why not try hiring them?
When I was in second year, there was a Mexican woman in my gender studies class who had a MA, she was a trained counselor - but her degree wasn't recognized its ridiculous that we're complaining about a shortage of doctors, nurses, and trained professionals, but immigrants can't get their qualifications recognized. If training or upgrading is necessary, or they have to go through a series of exams, thats fine. But they shouldn't have to redo their entire degree
its 100% true, i will be graduating (BBA) from a Canadian University very soon, I already know my degree is worthless, only place i might get a job is a call center and you do not necessarily need a degree to work there.it makes me frustrated and i often feel moving into Canada was a wrong Idea :|
It's not the necessarily the government that is not recognizing credentials, it is the individual professional associations that govern that particular line of work. The problem is that the government tries to attract skilled immigrants, but the professional associations make it hard for them to work.
level for electives this would take a maximum of 6 months for an ba degree and for someone with a mba if its legit from a real business school it would take only a month max. It should have to be done in english and marked identically to how a canadian citizen fluent in english or french would be. Knowledge in business or any other area is only of use if it can be communicated in at least one of canadas official languages other languages are a bonus of course and should add value and count as e
The fact is that there should be a system in place where an examination is given that covers all levels of accounting, another for all required levels of marketing, sociology, math statistics and quantitative methods, economics micro and macro, business administration, management, computer information systems, business ethics, business law, english, business communications and there should be sections marked required for required courses and then choose a certain nimber pf the following at each
This is so true. Most immigrants who arrive to canada try adjusting their degree to the government's requirements; however the government makes it extremely difficult and time consuming. Basically professionals would have to redo their entire degree.
When students from other countries glance at Canada's education and realize how easy it is relative to theirs, they laugh. With both sides benefiting, Canada should most definitely allow more flexibility for foreign educated citizens.
@bugstrut If the qualifications of the immigrants in Canada were fake or worthless in the West, they would had never made it through the Canadian immigration points system. In fact, even educated immigrants from the United States or UK find very difficult to get their credentials recognized in Canada.
@bugstrut You are a moron. Probably one of the most ignorant individuals on here. I know people in the East who laugh at what it takes to succeed here and make kings of themselves back home. It's the ones that try to come here and make something of themselves get turned away not by a higher standard of education, but by sheer ignorance and egotism of North American aristocracy.
My guess is your family isn't an immigrant family. So I guess I shouldn't expect you to have a clue.
@bugstrut i think 99.9% of canadian learned everythings from immigrants dude , that is something so obvious , maybe u r a retard or something , god knows
WARNING: All LIES. No decent jobs and no recognition of credentials or experience. Immigrants are suggested to go back to school to be "considered".
40% of immigrants leave before 5 years because cannot find a real job.
The rest agonize in minimum wage dead end jobs like janitorial and cab drivers for life.
95% NEVER find a job related to their skills.
Immigration to Canada is a "canned meat" business for immigration lawyers and consultants and a FRAUD.
reuven1967 5 months ago
It is amazing! More than 36,000 have watched the video, 60 people have commented pro ad, a few have acknowledged there is a problem but have commented con ad (in a mature way), 223 people have liked the link, and ONLY ONE immature Douche bag has disliked the video.
boostan66 6 months ago
I know a Haitian woman who graduated from a University in Florida as a respiratory therapist, and Canada won't recognize her credentials - from Florida???
squib2012 9 months ago
No idea about Canada, but some of these instances, at least in the US, are due to licensing requirements. The foreign doctor would end up driving cabs because the AMA requires practicing doctors to attend American med schools. Look up the literature on licensing, Milton Friedman did work on it, a lot of it had to due with doctors wanting to keep immigrants from "taking" their jobs.
champthom 9 months ago
Don't worry, immigrant friends...some Canadians can't even find work after years of University. I entirely support foreign credential acknowledgment and it has been a dream of mine to see partnerships between our countries blossom.
kylezwarich 9 months ago
BTW my dad was a Physicist from Moscow State U (MGU), worked on Swiss Collider and so on. After coming to Canada he was working on the construction sites for over 5 years now.
irabat 9 months ago
lived in Canada for 8 years and managed to learn their approach very well. 1) if you don't go through Canadian system (they assume theirs is the best way petty fks) you are in no luck of finding an adequate job. If you come you'll have to start over. 2) They are quite bizarre folks, they are awful tight and never take risks. That's why they lag compared to US. I'm here now and I can relate to Americans much better.
irabat 9 months ago
Canada is a dump country, thats why in Quebec we autimaticly reconize degrees from France and other europeen countries. The canadiens are too dumb qnyw
jcmyrand 9 months ago
@jcmyrand :The situation in Quebec is slightly the same. Some degrees are "recognized" just to get in masters programs, but not for jobs. Some professions as doctors and engineers are regulated and controlled by professional orders, so in this cases there are not "automatic" recognition.
miguelehernandez 9 months ago
@jcmyrand Go tell that to my mom who had to start university all over again, got a masters degree in microbiology and still can't find a job because of the professionnal order and because she doesn't have a french name
BlackFeather713 6 months ago
@sjalali1990 its true. i met this engineer who did his first two years of engineering at the University of Melbourne and when he transferred back to Canada, the university of calgary made him re do his first two years because they said they don't recognize University of Melbourne.
johndope1234 10 months ago
Thats so sad. ........ why its happening? whats the point people from different continents immigrate here with high education? ??
vancouver13 10 months ago
These spots are excellent ...as a Canadian citizen who did elementry, highschool in Canada then got a bacholars and after wards decieded to go and medical degree in the US I can't even come back and practice in Canada without jumping through a million hoops...I've just become so tired of it tat I've decieded to stay in the US... Canada needs to wake up fast cus if not it's going lose some of it's best and brights bc off all the b/s red tape
hazzi1999 10 months ago 2
I met a cab driver who was an engineer in India and a dept store sales associate who was an architect in Colombia. They both said their credentials weren't recognized and couldn't find jobs here in Canada :(
88beccachu 10 months ago
who dislikes this? The McDonald manager who wants to hire immigrant professionals because they would take that job more serious than a 16 year old kid?
measdna 10 months ago
these are great spots...
USASalim 10 months ago
well thats a great resume so can u work at the softy machine.. lmfao!!! but its truee..
jattminhas 10 months ago
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"If the qualifications of the immigrants in Canada were fake or worthless in the West, they would had never made it through the Canadian immigration points system."
Are you honestly this naive? Most of them lie outright about their credentials or buy their "degree" from diploma mills. Canada has done and EXCELLENT job of sorting out the shams. Notice please that those with REAL education get in and are very welcome here. Those that can't cut the mustard, drive cabs and push a mop.
Blacksmith1964 10 months ago
@Blacksmith1964 You ignorant fuck
BlackFeather713 10 months ago
@Blacksmith1964 are you sure you know what were're talking about? Do you understand how you push a mob? There're always people who buy their degree from 'diploma mills' as you call it. But we're talking about the doctors and engineers and many other professionals who've been working in their countries since 10 or more years.I would like to read your opinion when you're ill and sick and you need desperately a doctor here in Canada...
vespadnote 10 months ago
Unfortunately it is true, the govt was not prepare to co-op with the number of immigrants coming in, no plans has been put to fit the qualities in their fields and the top of all they don't want to upset the syndicates or disturb the income of certain group. It is a shame to see drs., pharmacists, engineers and scientists in the streets doing unqualified jobs where considerable areas needs their expertise. The most hated word "You don't have Canadian experience"
omega32885 10 months ago 3
not all taxi drivers are Doctors, nor all doctors are driving taxi.
why engineers are hasitating to appear in certification of their proffesions.
canada is a developed country it is not easy to get into your career immediatly. but life in canada is much better then other parts of the world, where u can get a career job but nothing else.
educated complains are welcome.
kanpoorindia 10 months ago
i m one of those
787sulav 10 months ago
that was absolutely beautifuly painful because it is so true.
nadime93 10 months ago 2
This is so true. All my love and hugs to those people who live this life kind of life for years or even forever . You will never understand till you have lived this life...
vespadnote 10 months ago
@vespadnote true....and i m one
787sulav 10 months ago
The one person who disliked this is an idiot.
19jdw83 10 months ago 2
This video reminds me of my old days in Canada. It took me about 2 years to get into my profession and guess what, I had to start from the beginning even though I have about 5+ years of experience back home.
xtasktaste0 10 months ago 2
@xtasktaste0 What do you do now? And what were you doing for work when you first came here?
DoomRulz 10 months ago
Great. Combat racism through class prejudice. Wonderful. Good job.
NoJusticeNoPeace 10 months ago
@NoJusticeNoPeace You know, I didn't notice the moral valence of the comparison between intellectual labour and manual labour until you mentioned it, thank you!
HungryForHuman 10 months ago
@NoJusticeNoPeace I 100% agree. This PSA could have handled it differently. But then in capitalistic economies these jobs will never be seen in good light.
HeySenthil 10 months ago
That is why they are always lagging behind the US.
madaskarian 10 months ago 2
have to be careful, a doctor in most of these countries is not the same as here. a "doctor of opthamology" in russia is just a contact lens dispenser, by actual comparison.
we need to recognize more credentials at the level they actually make sense... and offer upgrading incentives to our much higher standards. not just recognize banana republic training as equivalent here because we have a shortage of professionals which is our own fault.. because government cuts training spaces for years.
adhdcanuck 10 months ago
@adhdcanuck First check spelling, then Google Svyatoslav Fyodorov.
When trying being smart, check your facts first.
A typical doctor in Canada is just an antibiotics dispenser - by a FACTUAL comparison with rare exceptions. I waited more than half a year to get consultation from "one of the best" Montreal's ophthalmologist, who failed to determine what's wrong but charged me for eye drops and said that I'm alright when I wasn't.
So be careful indeed.
Best regards,
Ekro,Montreal,Qc,Ca
eikro 10 months ago
The last one was sooooooo sad.. :'( The guy was too heartbreaking.. :(
Vivolicious25 10 months ago
It's like this in most countries. Quite sad, really.
CompsciWiz 10 months ago
I could ask the same question for Australia.... My Palestinian husband is a qualified electrical engineer yet he has been working in a convenience store pretty much the whole time he has lived in Australia.
LauraStar127 10 months ago
This is abit sad really, bit same thing in sweden as well.
tompersson77 10 months ago
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Making immigrants study again is a way for the less populated but rich countries to gain labourers as well as get money into their economy through inflated international fees. I have to pay three times the fees as an international student in Australia as a citizen does. For something I already know.
simbelm 10 months ago
canada=MONOPOLY
CCTSPORTES 10 months ago
@CCTSPORTES I LOVE THAT GAME
sukitrebek 10 months ago
@sukitrebek LOL
CCTSPORTES 10 months ago
Making immigrants study again is a way for the less populated but rich countries to gain labourers as well as get money into their economy through inflated international fees. I have to pay three times the fees as an international student in Australia as a citizen does. For something I already know.
simbelm 10 months ago 5
Canada thinks its too good for non-Canadian doctors/engineers....give it up! They act as if a Medical students from other countries treat other species and dont know how to treat humans...Canada a great country...ya right.
desinasha 10 months ago 4
it's all the union's faults. They want to keep qualified immigrants from taking over their jobs.
sattarzan 10 months ago
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maashokhel 10 months ago
My brothe is an engineer and had experience too but couldnt a job so he went for a master degree while working at parking lot and shoe store and after same thing so he left Canada
azzuri09 10 months ago 2
@azzuri09 He did the best thing trust me... Canada Sucks... been living here for 14 years and going back to my own country for good... at least they respect me for whoever I am !
sanazjaber 10 months ago
My father is a Doctor as well as my mom who worked in Dubai over 25 years, that's 2 Phd which they acquired in Germany....We came to Canada and my dad is a mechanic making 350$ a week and my mom is a house wife because she can't find a job...You lack doctors? Why not try hiring them?
adamXvoice 10 months ago 11
I teach upgrading and we get lots of new Canadians; teaching high school biology to medical doctors is just strange.
MortQ42 10 months ago 3
When I was in second year, there was a Mexican woman in my gender studies class who had a MA, she was a trained counselor - but her degree wasn't recognized its ridiculous that we're complaining about a shortage of doctors, nurses, and trained professionals, but immigrants can't get their qualifications recognized. If training or upgrading is necessary, or they have to go through a series of exams, thats fine. But they shouldn't have to redo their entire degree
skinnybeans00 10 months ago 2
its 100% true, i will be graduating (BBA) from a Canadian University very soon, I already know my degree is worthless, only place i might get a job is a call center and you do not necessarily need a degree to work there.it makes me frustrated and i often feel moving into Canada was a wrong Idea :|
asrukonna 10 months ago
@asrukonna
come to America instead.
kaminoneh 10 months ago
It's not the necessarily the government that is not recognizing credentials, it is the individual professional associations that govern that particular line of work. The problem is that the government tries to attract skilled immigrants, but the professional associations make it hard for them to work.
massonkelly 10 months ago 7
level for electives this would take a maximum of 6 months for an ba degree and for someone with a mba if its legit from a real business school it would take only a month max. It should have to be done in english and marked identically to how a canadian citizen fluent in english or french would be. Knowledge in business or any other area is only of use if it can be communicated in at least one of canadas official languages other languages are a bonus of course and should add value and count as e
etristanb 10 months ago
The fact is that there should be a system in place where an examination is given that covers all levels of accounting, another for all required levels of marketing, sociology, math statistics and quantitative methods, economics micro and macro, business administration, management, computer information systems, business ethics, business law, english, business communications and there should be sections marked required for required courses and then choose a certain nimber pf the following at each
etristanb 10 months ago
that's so sad, i wish they were exaggerating....
I met a guy the other day who graduated from OttawaU with a masters in i think aerospace engineering, he's a taxi driver now....
rob6van1dam9 10 months ago 3
Because it takes a god damn decade to get nostrified. That's why.
MDUMANOVIC 10 months ago 2
This is so true. Most immigrants who arrive to canada try adjusting their degree to the government's requirements; however the government makes it extremely difficult and time consuming. Basically professionals would have to redo their entire degree.
When students from other countries glance at Canada's education and realize how easy it is relative to theirs, they laugh. With both sides benefiting, Canada should most definitely allow more flexibility for foreign educated citizens.
k11495 10 months ago 7
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Unfortunately, the reality is that 99.9% of immigrants are unskilled.
bugstrut 1 year ago
@bugstrut Are you sure that 99.9% % of immigrants are unskilled?
Within the Canadian economy, immigrants are most found at the highest education levels. See some figures from Statistics Canada:
- 56% of immigrants who arrived in Canada (2001 to 2006) held a university degree.
- 38% of male workers with a POST-graduate degree are immigrants to the country.
- 49% of doctorate holders in Canada and 40% of those with a masters degree were born outside Canada.
reyes300 1 year ago 111
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@reyes300 Many of the qualifications are either fake or worthless in the west.
bugstrut 1 year ago
@bugstrut If the qualifications of the immigrants in Canada were fake or worthless in the West, they would had never made it through the Canadian immigration points system. In fact, even educated immigrants from the United States or UK find very difficult to get their credentials recognized in Canada.
reyes300 1 year ago 48
@bugstrut You are a moron. Probably one of the most ignorant individuals on here. I know people in the East who laugh at what it takes to succeed here and make kings of themselves back home. It's the ones that try to come here and make something of themselves get turned away not by a higher standard of education, but by sheer ignorance and egotism of North American aristocracy.
My guess is your family isn't an immigrant family. So I guess I shouldn't expect you to have a clue.
hybridevil 10 months ago 3
That is why Canada is always lagging a million kms behind the US.
madaskarian 10 months ago 3
@reyes300 education dont mean you make alot of money. I am high school drop out and today I make 350,000 CAD/a year
ironintel 7 months ago
@ironintel good for you
MaillouxRussel 5 months ago
@bugstrut i think 99.9% of canadian learned everythings from immigrants dude , that is something so obvious , maybe u r a retard or something , god knows
alzym1 10 months ago
@bugstrut I am a student in engineering at the University of Ottawa and so far out of my 15 teachers, 10 were either Arabs or from Eastern Europe.
acooca123 10 months ago