I plan on contributing to the global warming trend by burning up as much 112 octane leaded fuel I can burn through my race car engine this year. Thats about 1 gallon per 1/4 mile pass.
Disgusting! Only a brain dead government suck up would belive this EPA GESTOPO propaganda B.S. Al gore and his cronies is being sue by 30,000 scientist that know this a global carbon shceme, now there about to have a enviromental french police gestopo inforce it! So if u really think we need forceful intervetion to end "global warming" well put on your goose stepper's and seich hail you nazi zombie!
liberals, conservatives, communists, capitalists .. When will you people learn? There is no such thing! There is no sides! Thats what the government wants you to believe and follow, they want you divided against one another, this is so simple that im baffled that people are so dumb in order not to recognize this!!!!!!!!!!!!
this aint a fuckin communist thing, you people are so dumb, stop trying to name things like that! This is a simple conspiracy, anyone not getting it, go back and study some more, please.
Believe in climate change or not, this is hilarious. I hope when I grow up, I don't turn into a complete tight-ass. Wait a minute. I'm 63. What's with you people?
oops, they let their insanity out of the closet on this one, eh? it's like a serial killer who shows you his collection of cat skulls and bottles of saved urine. kind of a clue what kind of person you're dealing with.
If you don't agree with us, we won't pressure you, we'll just kill you. The lesson to others nearby will be clear: you disagree with us, you die.
Screw people like Galileo and so on who might actually be able to detect such problems and devise solutions through disagreeing with the bullshit that exists in societies. Let's go back to the Dark Ages constant threat of torture and murder for disagreement, and that'll solve our problems (which clearly aren't about scientific results but obedience).
Does anybody need more proof that the environmentalists are evil communists who would even kill your baby if it disagrees with them?!
Imagine a conservative group made a video were dissidents get spanked: It would be in the news around the world for weeks to demonize all conservatives!
This is proof positive that the environmental wackjobs are intolerant ideological totalitarian facists. They believe it's their way or no way. This would make even Stalin and Hitler cringe with disgust.
And the supporters of this kind of environmentalism would claim that they believe in free speech but they sure as hell do not believe in free thought. Look at what they do to those who dissent with their opinions. They shut them down and try to destroy them. They are fundamentalist freaks.
WHY TIE UP THE COMMENTS SECTION WITH TIT FOR TAT BICKERING, CAN'T YOU PRIVATE MESSAGE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR INTO.
By the way of course we can trust David Rothschild, the Rothschild's wouldn't fund or invest in environmentally negligent practices would they, Stupid clown in his bottle bout laughing at the chumps that swallow this crap & the ones that will still have to pay for them screwing it all up in the first place for a tax that will do nothing for the environment.
@Watnawootie Rofl. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah, Im the loser here. Last time I checked, youre the worthless sentimental heap of nothing professing himself to stand for all that is righteous in the world. Namely, income redistribution. The fact of the matter is, is that not all people are equal. Some people are simply better than others. Judging from your disgustingly pathetic drivel youve been spewing for the last day or so, youre one of the bottomfeeders. Go die somewhere filth.
@Watnawootie Thats a very inaccurate presentation of my argument. And no, my opinions are based upon sensible, logical processing. Not frivolous and childish outbursts of emotion. And really, your entire argument can be summed up simply as the vice of detraction attempting to disguise itself as the virtue of contrition. Blatant self-righteous hypocrisy and selfishness.You say my methods are all about me, whereas your methods are if anything, exactly the same if not moreso.
@Watnawootie Thanks for quoting Monty Python. No, not really. This is Youtube. I dont go around and talk about things like this openly with others for obvious reasons. Not unless they show themselves to be of a similar mindset. Which there are many...
@Watnawootie Please. The same things can be said of your precious Alexandrian philosophy. Multiculturalism, especially mixed with Christianity, CANNOT ever work. Ever. It will fail. Its a culture that proscribes self preservation. A culture that rejects strength. A culture that rejects true progress. It condemns itself to a sort of biological edema. You keep letting that tumor grow, you keep dumbing your populations down, and you WILL collapse. Every single time.
@Watnawootie Well I do love Nietzsche. Have the Birth of Tragedy, and the Will to Power amongst others in my collection. Got some Richard Wagner here as well. Not as prominent in philosophy as Frederick was, but still a brilliant guy.
@Watnawootie Yes well the pendulum will ALWAYS go all the way to the left, then all the way to the right. Both sides will always exist. You will do the best you can, we will do the best we can. You succeed for awhile, you fail, we take over, we succeed for awhile, we fail, you take over. We will see where this will lead us in the long run. Perhaps technology will enable a system to eventually last forever. Perhaps not. We can only wait and see.
@Watnawootie Once again, you love to get a running headstart, only for me to put my foot out at the last second and you eat curb. I said... that the only reason why these totalitarian states ceased to exist was because of western interference. North Korea still very much exists regardless of its "human rights violations" the same goes for any other currently existing country youd like to name. Once again, you jump the gun. These people would be listed among the undesireables beforehand.
@Watnawootie No system is wholly perfect. Namely because humanity itself is imperfect. This western, hedonistic neurosis cannot last forever. The old forces of relatively voluntary cohesion are dissipating. Absolute authority WILL emerge in the near future. What shape that absolute authority will take is for the moment unclear. But if you look at what world leaders are discussing, all you have to do is read John Holdren, Obamas chief science advisor regarding population control to get an idea.
@Watnawootie No, perhaps not. But then again, you seem to profess yourself as quite the opponent of such a regime. You undoubtably would be listed as one for that obvious fact alone. Your fear is not necessary. In fact, your doubt and in fact amusement will only ever lend itself to the manifestation of such a movement coming to power. Just look at the history of some of the groups youve criticised. Who saw the Nazis coming during their early years? Noone. They were jeered at. Look what happened.
@Watnawootie In case youve forgotten, the ONLY reason why those states failed was because they had the totality of western civilization as their enemies. THIS time it will be western civilization as a whole to undergo this process. Who will oppose us then? The Chinese? As if they would even care. Anyone who deigns to manifest himself as a leader of opposition will be swiftly identified and taken care of one way or the other. With technology comes infinite improvement. The game has changed.
@Watnawootie If it did, it would only go to show that in truth my perceived strength was my weakness. The point of it all would regardless be however, that strength alone prevails.
@Watnawootie At the same time, I would advise you to PRAY that my said system isnt implemented either by myself, or by others. Even though that wont do you any good. It has been said time and time again, "It can never happen here" "It can never happen now" "It can never happen to me" only to be proven wrong over and over and over again. Your lack of faith in the resolve and the very real power of others will be and has always been, your undoing.
@Watnawootie The failed states you are referring to always failed mainly to external influences and or poor organizational skills on the part of the leadership and or poor intelligence employed by said state leaders. Once global integration has set in, and the total surveillance system installed, it will be easy enough to control it.
@Watnawootie Thats not necessarily true. There is a limited amount of people in this world. Its simply a matter of becoming the best through constant, and rigorous personal development.
@Watnawootie Yes well, the Jews had plenty of time to get out of Germany but they refused to leave without their property and thus, the rest is history. Once again, bullets will not be necessary. Neither will bodies in the ideal situation. They will simply cease to reproduce. And thus, they will be able to enjoy life but will not have children. At least most people will not have children. At the beginning.
@Watnawootie Once again you are all too eager to jump into the deep end. Take it slowly. I never claimed I didnt know who the Shaws were. The renowned eugenecists. I said that I was not aware that wikileaks had anything to do with them. I as a sentient being do not require anybodys permission to pass judgement onto anyone. Whereas others are free to do the same. A contest of personal strengths, general willpower, and determination regarding the day to day development will determine who wins.
@Watnawootie For a couple of very simple reasons. Technology is far more advanced than it used to be, and we have the old models to analyse. Both in strength and weakness.
@Watnawootie Such a pathetically weak assessment. In the real world, any given person has 100 times as many reasons as to why they would want and indeed, should kill a human being than they do a common house spider. Yet they never hesitate to stomp the guts out of the latter upon sight.
@Watnawootie The victims of said circumstances bring these things upon themselves. EIther adapt, or be crushed by progress. Such is the natural way of things. If these people, and lets face it, the vast majority of said persons would be among the types who lie about, make excuses, procrastinate from cradle to grave, justify their inactivity, and point the finger at the elite and at the government as the source of all their strife. Its THEY who are responsible for the sorry state they are in.
@Watnawootie That statement was pure assumption. Based on nothing. The details would all be worked out to perfection and indeed, justified not only by their effectiveness, but by the realization of necessary ends.
@Watnawootie Yes well the ends are worth such a means. The will to survive unto itself does not justify the impact that any given life has upon not only its surroundings, but upon other living beings. One might as well -again- justify the existence of the AIDS virus or the cancer cell. You are you to deny the tumor its right to live after all?
@Watnawootie Well, if the shoe fits, Ill be sure to wear it thats all. What necessarily designates me as anything but? Your distaste of my point of view? Obviously.
@Watnawootie Well once again, China is, when you look at the whole, a highly disorganized, dilapidated nation whose only noticeable function is the enhancement of the party. They arent seeking to truly resolve these problems as can be easily seen by the torrent of abuses not only concerning corruption, but concerning a lack of strongfisted repercussion concerning dissidence. Well frankly, with the power of technology enhancing at the exponential rate that it is, this scenario is inevitable.
@Watnawootie Well frankly what defines an enlightened elite, superior knowledge, intelligence, motivation, and economic standing. Im well on my way my friend in those respects. Youve pointed out a single isolated example out of perhaps a couple dozen throughout history. Utterly insignificant point.
@Watnawootie Primarily the economic model. That and its fusion with Christianity. Its external threats didnt really amount to much. Its internal strife resulting from revolts and disease etc were elements but not the main ones.
@Watnawootie Yes it is very good of me. All of the most pressing questions will then have finally been resolved. Scientifically I might add. No, these ideas are my own. Im not familiar with the story youre citing.
@Watnawootie How many times are you going to ask me to refute this exact point over and over and over again? Ive told you repeatedly that if the given state were to demonstrate the necessity, and the effectiveness of their means of application, then I would abide by all of the edicts attached to said legislation. Even if it required these things of me. If you say this again, you can simply refer back to this comment.
@Watnawootie The same thing can be said of the champions of so called social justice. Look at the late stages of the Roman Empire. Freedom for almost everyone! It collapsed with its unsustainable economic strain. As we are witnessing within America right now. This CANNOT be sustained. The model failed before, it will fail now. Technology will not save them this time. Perhaps next time if it comes to that, but thats a long way off.
@Watnawootie Thats not necessarily true. In the mind of every man woman and child, there was a flat world around them. They simply hadnt gone far enough to witness the borders first hand. TRUTH has nothing to do with consensus. Then again, to the colorblind the sky being black is not only truth, but is truth, fact, and reality. Who are you to tell them otherwise according to your own philosophy of relative freedom, accomodation, and consolation?
@Watnawootie This is very understandable. Only you fail to notice that the people who would be considered would probably be better off anyways beyond the veil than they are currently. Either that or mostly unaware of what is happening to them at any given moment anyways.
@Watnawootie Yes, thats right. Hence, my former aside that it would be highly unlikely that I would be considered as an "undesirable." Once again, this aside having nothing to do with my willingness to comply with these methods if they were to become law.
@Watnawootie Once again, these solutions that I am promoting would have to be thoroughly tested by accedited experts before they were to be implemented. Our understanding of the effectiveness of these solutions would by then, be as real as our understanding of the equation of 2+2=4 in time. Thus, they would inevitably be implemented.
@Watnawootie Yes thats also correct. My use of the word objective of course meaning of course as objective as anyone can possibly be both in an absolute sense and a relative sense. What is generally determined to be "real" is the consensus within any given social group regarding consistent and observable phonomena.
@Watnawootie Yes, except this time the reasons would not even in part be imagined or conjured via propaganda. It would be a very real solution to a very real group of very significant problems that we have failed to deal with for thousands of years.
@Watnawootie Sorry, Dartmouth. But you know as well as I do that doing such a thing would change nothing. It would be akin to the monk lighting himself on fire during the Vietnam era. It would simply be another picture that Time Magazine would use to bolster its revenues for a period of time. Another image that you could look up via google images.
@Watnawootie Well I am very capable. I graduated valedictorian from high school, am currently a senior here at Darmouth, and will be graduating this year hopefully with Summa Cum Laude to attach to my resume. Im also at the moment developing my own business via a online marketing platform called Storesonline. Im doing VERY well for my age as a matter of fact. Im only 23. Ive got all the time in the world. But once again, I would apply the same standards to myself as I would on others.
@Watnawootie Yes thats basically right. I do know better simply because the personal passion is there for me. That and Im actually capable of objective thoguht and analysis. Regardless of how desperately you try to paint my thinking process as a subjective one.
@Watnawootie Yes well your refusal to do so does not refute the effectiveness of my proposed methods. In time, perhaps even within a few decades, the elites will demand it. As perhaps will the majority of Americans come soon enough once they realize what these proponents of global fabian socialism have in store for the relative buying power of the average American in the long run.
@Watnawootie Once again, I said that I would comply even if I were to become a target, as long as these edicts were based on accurate and effective studies that were proven to solve said problems. I simply stated as an aside, that it would be unlikely that I would become a target.
@Watnawootie Once again, if the solutions were to be communicated clearly, and their accuracy and effectiveness were to be presented clearly and truthfully to the public at large, I would abide by these edicts.
@Watnawootie Well of course genetic deficiencies would be the most immediate factor, followed by statistics regarding predispositions to criminal activity, extent of economic liability to the state, education, amicability, and so forth. If they refuse, they will be detained and what will follow is self-explanatory. China is inefficient. Dirty, overpopulated to a disgusting extent and so on. The interest and followthrough simply isnt there. Whereas it would be in the ideal society.
@Watnawootie I dont expect anything from you. This is a discussion. Im presenting my viewpoints, and you are expressing yours. You refuse to acknowledge the effectiveness of my methods simply because it contradicts what you perceive to be "right".
@Watnawootie Well honestly I perceive myself as able to provide something worthwhile to such efforts. Im certainly capable and motivated enough to contribute something significant. If this is synonymous with your "extra-special cog" metaphor, then I suppose thats right. Then again, were all cogs anyways even within the current established order.
@Watnawootie Once again, you dont have to literally kill people to decrease the size of the population over time. Voluntary sterilization and involuntary in some cases would certainly solve these problems. No gas ovens necessary. This would solve a great many problems outside the realm of the environment. Namely, welfare recipience rates, an exploding population growth within impoverished, uneducated, and negligent populations, etc etc.
@Watnawootie Yes well, that would spell the end of their problems one way or another even if these things were to be applied to me. I would no longer have to worry about my day to day responsibilities, social pressures, etc etc. Sure, Id rather live than die, but the concept of death really isnt that frightening. After all, we must all face it eventually one way or another. I dont think it would necessarily be via a gas oven, but even if it were, it couldnt last more than a minute at most.
@Watnawootie Perhaps. Thats the case whether we live in a system that embraces capitalism, socialism, or communism. As long as the actualization of hierarchy exists, this will be the case. It will happen regardless of whether eugenics will put into policy or not. I dont see how this makes me an idiot, besides the fact that its contrary to how you think things SHOULD be.
@Watnawootie Your last point is almost correct. You are incorrectly however, assuming that I perceive such things to be necessarily evil, whereas I consider these things to be a prerequisite of our overall survival in the long run. A source of limited resources and space for obvious reasons cannot support an unlimited population. Try to square that circle and the only explanation that will emerge will be natural selection.
@Watnawootie No, I really dont think Im an idiot. Thats like saying that the Nazis were eventually going to be the victims of their own eugenics program. Ridiculous notion. No, Im simply stating the obvious. If such a thing were to occur, considering the fact that not only am I able, but willing to assist with its implementation, would almost certainly render me immune to the category of persons were talking about.
@Watnawootie Yeah thats about right, at least for a time. Until the existing population level was reduced to sustainable levels and the growth rate was leveled off. Only then could a chance of absolute human solidarity and of universal contentedness be possible.
@Watnawootie Once again, your inclusion of the absence of myself clause, is not valid. Ive said repeatedly that I would apply the same standard to myself if the time came. I simply added that its highly unlikely that I personally, would be included in the "undesireables" category. Thats all. As for the decision making, yes, perhaps its unlikely that I will man the decision making chair, but I suppose only time will tell wont it. The same would apply to you if you actually aimed for it.
@Watnawootie Fucked in the head according to who's standards? Yours? Who are you according to your own logic to impose your moral or ethical presuppositions on anyone? Talk about hypocrisy.
@Watnawootie Yes I am fully aware of this. Unfortunately for your "tip", morality itself is not absolute. What is generally considered moral here may not be a few hours away. It could possibly be said in some areas in the middle east that not only is killing Jews legal, but moral as well. You fail to take this obvious fact into consideration.
@Watnawootie Oh no, I never said I wouldnt be willing to get my hands dirty, I was simply describing your depiction of the situation as being misplaced.
@Watnawootie Sure it does. If the government has the right to regulate the self interests of others, so would it be able to do so in this regard as well.
@Watnawootie Amusing how somebody who claims to hold a position of relative moral superiority condemns a self-sacrificial act made in the name of the whole of humanity calls somebody else a monster. You may as well call Christ a monster. You may as well call Abraham a monster. Consequently I do, because it was done in the name of baseless and one could say, retarded faith and not demonstrative and established fact.
@Watnawootie No, I simply was pointing out the obvious fact that your description of what would happen as not only completely unrealistic, but fundamentally different from what would actually happen and what I would consider to be acceptable. Only if these said solutions were proven not only to be fully capable of solving the problems and not simply remedying the effects of the problems temporarily, and once these solutions were to be passed through legislation, would I abide by them.
@Watnawootie It depends on the significance of said 1 degree. An international scientific panel of proven experts would propose the solutions in their entirety, and the politicians would pass those into law once the accuracy of the reports had been proven beyond a doubt to be correct. Once again, the criteria regarding whom would be chosen for such things is basically self-evident.
@Watnawootie Well they've done things like that before. Look up the Tuskegee experiment. The US government radiated foster children to death to test the threshold for exposure to radiation in the 40s 50s and 60s in response to the growing threat of nuclear war. The ends justify the means. Putting this through legislation would be very easy. Write the bill, vote it through, and implement it. Easy enough.
@Watnawootie I wouldnt have the child to begin with. I would expect others to do the same. It wouldnt be "just me". After all, what is the significance of any one person compared to the likes of the whole of human civilization?
@Watnawootie You obviously need to have everything spelled out to the letter to you or it goes miles over your head. The comparison that I made between the special ed kid and the prodigy is the obvious crevasse that separates you and I intellectually. Me being on the higher side of course. Lol
@Watnawootie Well frankly that would be unnecessary and unrealistic. Such a thing would never in reality be carried out in such a way. Of course I would never allow myself to be made subject to such a thing, but I would certainly understand it. I could not condemn what I knew to be true and necessary. Of course in reality, I personally would never be selected as such. At least in all likelihood.
@Watnawootie That is, if the solution promoted was well grounded and undoubtedly would result in said solutions successfully of course. This could be demonstrated by selective testing in controlled environments.
@Watnawootie Keep up? Thats like the local special ed kid calling the straight A prodigy a moron. Sad... the mob CAME to demand it after being bombarded by carefully crafted propaganda techniques and composition. They are easily influenced. Yes, I have repeatedly answered your question. If the people who make the decisions, namely the policy makers, came up with an objective solution to this worlds problems, and voiced the details to the public including myself, I would abide by it. Period.
@Watnawootie I think its a factor, and not a slight one, but in its natural setting, one would presume that coal and oil plants produce far more pollution and carbon emissions into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant does.
@Watnawootie Well most of the people who died in Stalins Soviet Russia died from starvation due to butchering the land to promote his "scientific" theories regarding Communism and agricultural policy. Sure he killed people directly, but one might as well say the US has done the same in regard to the likes of the Timoreans, the Vietnamese, the Japanese, the Guatemalans, the Dominicans, the Libyans, the Iraqis and so on.
@Watnawootie You may be right to say that not all Jews are guilty of these things but they have consciously and intentionally created these general impressions and paid the price for them. People need someone to scapegoat. People need enemies. Whether it be the likes of George Bush, Obama, David Rockefeller, the Rothschilds, the Jews, the Communists, the Islamic fundamentalists etc etc etc. Its the same story over and over forever. Its human nature.
@Watnawootie Well the prejudice of the Jews wasnt and hasnt been due to blind hatred. They are notorious for strutting about claiming to be the Chosen people, and are constantly infusing themselves into positions of high finance, who come to possess the ability to encourage, and indeed to finance war of several stripes and have done so many times throughout history. They have bankrupted nations, created communism and some say capitalism as well, their "contributions" to history, well....
@Watnawootie Once again, your analysis is based completely upon relatively baseless preconceived notions. Perhaps its true 51% of the time, but you fail to account for the remaining 49%. Such gross misinterpretations of entire ideologies not only promotes ignorance but hatred as well. You should at least attempt to practice what you preach you know.
@Watnawootie Once again, its not what the MOB wants, its what those intelligent, dedicated, and hard working enough to come to a comprehensive understanding of the problems and the associated solutions to said problems decide. If a standard is agreed upon, it must be enforced to the letter, and with absolute objectivity. The criteria for such a solution would frankly come as almost self-evident to those involved in the decision making process.
@Watnawootie Well the fact of the matter is, is that you dont know me so please dont presume to speak for me. Its a little ironic too, someone condemning condescending and ruthless generalizations and then goes about 2 seconds later at makes one himself and finds it amusing. Talk about a hypocrite.
@Watnawootie In case youve forgotten, both you and I, indeed everyone, is a part of the mob. Whether one is a leader or not, they are still a part of the mob. Perhaps not the nucleus, but a part of it nevertheless. There must be reasons as to why the mob comes to accept genocide as an acceptable means to an end must there not? People like you will evermore point your fat fingers at the leaders of these people, but really its within human nature itself to manifest itself in such a way.
@Watnawootie In case you misread me, which you did, I said I'm NOT saying that solar activity CANT affect climate in significant ways. Please quote me correctly next time.
@Watnawootie Thats about right. It would mean that I have to sharpen up my skills to overtake said thief/murderer etc. Thats all. If I cant adapt, I die. Thats nature right there. I didnt make the rules, I simply observe them and live by them.
@Watnawootie No, not at all. Im not saying that solar activity amongst other things cant effect climate in significant ways. The fact is, is that trying to say that we can dump crap around everywhere above ground, underground, in the ocean and in the air, whether it be biodegradable or radioactive with a half-life of some billions years or so, without it altering the very fabric of our respective ecosystems is beyond ludicrous. Yet thats what youre doing.
@Watnawootie You must have skipped over my response to this question. Its not about the mob, its about maintaining the mob. Its about exceeding the mob. Its about controlling the mob. And contrary to what you just said, empirical evidence is everything. Our concept of morality is really in reality only a cause and effect list of what results in emotional responses. What instills fear, sadness, hate, anger is considered evil, while what instills love, happiness, etc is considered good. Thats all.
@Watnawootie Thats the nature of pure capitalism buddy. Nobodys going to judge me at the end of time in my world friend. Whats to stay my hand then? Only the fear of legal retribution. But what happens when the perpetrator is smart enough to always evade the system? Or even better, to break and make a new system? Thats what you call a winner. It all boils down to who gets what. Thats all. Satisfaction. All of it.
@Watnawootie Who said Im a progressive? Perhaps on this issue, but overall Im a conservative. Thats right. With the exception of his views on the role of personal liberties in an ever-evolving social construct, and perhaps on some of the details regarding the significance of race, Hitler pretty much had it spot on. Its a natural law. The lion kills the wildebeest. Every time. Only when an accident happens does it go the other way.
@Watnawootie Thats right. I would expect an explanation, but if it were justified, Id accept it. If I were to become lobotomized in a sense by an accident or so forth, I'd tell them to pull the plug. I would be rendered incapable of justifying my own existence in a real and practical way, and thus would be disgusted with myself and with life. Id be a burden on my family, and wouldnt wish that for them. Its called personal sacrifice. Something youre obviously not familiar with.
@Watnawootie Well the people studying this issue have reached what can almost be called an absolute consensus. The severity of the problem is the only thing that has been debated though. The fact of the matter is, is that the longer we wait, and the longer we put off the implementation of the necessary policies which will be needed to stem off this problem, the worse it will get.
@Watnawootie Survival of the fittest. Period. You dont have to like it, its a natural law. You can go ahead and say, "The will to survive and to replicate itself justifies the existence of a cancer cell, or of a black widow spider, or of an HIV virus." Decisions like this must be made objectively.
@Watnawootie Once again, this is a matter that transcends morality. This is a matter that concerns the very survival of our species. We cant afford to require ourselves to wear the white silk gloves when addressing this problem.
@Watnawootie First of all, the temperature change from the cretaceous to the ice age took millions of years and was likely caused in part to dust thrown into the atmosphere due to a meteorite impact. Second, the medieval warming period was only a difference of a couple tenths of 1 degree celsius and only in the northern atlantic region. Were talking about 1 full degree celsius throughout the entire pacific/atlantic/indian/arctic oceans. BIG difference this being only less than a century as well
@Watnawootie Thats not necessarily true. Its called state sponsored reproductive polices. We cant allow for everyone to crank out 15 kids like tasty bread and demand a check from the government anymore. It is simply not sustainable. Period.
@Watnawootie Fine. If people want to threaten the natural balance of the planet to the extent in which the very fate of human civilization is at stake, I would sooner promote the death of individuals and even of children instead of the whole of humanity. Yep. Ill say it again. If its a choice between some people dying and less people dying, Ill choose for less people dying. Im not going to play the self-righteous child who sits on his hands and demand that these problems solve themselves
@Watnawootie Not at all. For you to claim that the oceans of the entire planet have increased by over 1 degree celcius over the last 80 years is due to solar activity without the occurrence of significant natural disaster is beyond idiotic. Thanks for trying to play Mr blase with a dash of hyperbole. Frankly it just makes me look better.
@Watnawootie Last time I checked, youre the one professing yourself to be in a position of relative moral superiority not me. Im the practical one, youre the, "Lets continue to pass on our critical problems of over-consumption and wastefulness to posterity as usual." Yes, youre absolutely right. I cant win in the marketplace of ideas because I point out what are clearly very significant problems, and people counter with frivolous notions of "This presents us with a moral problem" nonsense.
@Watnawootie The world is not a bottomless garbage dump. More people = more industry = more pollution and waste = more deforestation = more extermination of wildlife, ecosystems, and potential cures for a variety of human ailments. If its less people or no people, its less people. Which unfortunately for us, is the state we are being faced with in the immediate future. Alternative reusable green energy sources are not readily available or affordable. Therefore business wont go for it.
@Watnawootie Lol. Fine. If you want to sit here, and gargle your Exxon Mobil mouthwash, and spew it back onto public forums like youre doing now, then you can only expect to be ridiculed. Over a third of the world's coral reefs have died within the last 50 years. Ecosystems that required millions of years to developed have been wiped out within a few decades of excessive industrialization. The corporations will never stop unless you hold a gun to their head. Literally. End of story.
@Watnawootie Yeah this coming from somebody clueless and childish enough to label someone as unintelligent and immature on a whim based on nothing other than contempt. Way to add hypocrisy to your rapidly expanding list of personal shortcomings.
@Watnawootie Not at all. Theyve got Microsoft lined up behind them. What are you going to do about it? Cry about it on Youtube? Go for it. Expect criticism.
nuclear plants are better i suppose HAHAH!! I dont like fossil fuels either but the reason is not carbon dioxide. The reason is carcinogens from the smoke that hurt your health (Lung diseases, cancer). We should use things like HEMP to make diesel fuel (Which is what it was originally intended for) but the oil companies wont allow that to hurt their profits (Why let an easily grown weed to be legal which anyone can grow but not anyone can mine oil in the ground)
Imagine in any conservatives put out a video like this, the media would of been all over it condemning them as nut jobs. When liberals do it....and nothing in the mainstream media about it
It's a shame this ad didnt run on television. The global warming Gestapo would have had carry around signs and scream at people on the street and still no one would pay attention. Why don't we show how a fetus is ripped out of a womb. And then have a woman say "it's your right to privacy we're fighting for"
And the poor people from Greenpeace are trying to campaign in a non-violent way.
You give enviromentalists everywhere a bad name!
By even JOKING about blowing up people who don't want to co-operate with you, you may put yourself right next to communist Russia and the 9/11 terrorists.
if you study history youll see hitler did this to convince people killing jews was ok.if you cant see the propganda then your extremely stupid and ignorant.this 10%cut doesnt even effect nature by 1%.
Come off it - this is a brilliant bit of British humour from a brilliant British screen writer (Richard Curtis). Its obviously a joke! Its not targeted at children (the bbfc give it a rating that limits aims to stop it being shown to kids). Oh and the best bit - this never got aired - so many idiots like u guys complained that they never showed it. This is a witty piece that actually makes fun of environmental hysteria while putting across a valid message. ITS FUNNY!
@muse28 yes....blowing up school children is funny.....killing people who dont agree with you is harlious....stupid sheep doing anything your government tells you.
FUCKEN WOW...What disgusting sadness. With the successful tests of human combustion in the early 1900's and the reverse subliminal message from the RFID chip guy saying, "we will blow up your ass from anywhere", this confirms it. And funny its 10:10. How many times have you caught yourself instantly looking at your cell phone at 10:10 or similar times ie 11:11, 3:33 and so on... All that is righteous and good be with us.
Wow, this doesn't even constitute as propaganda any more, this is pure indoctrination. Even Hitler never made commercials in which people would blow up if they didn't tell de nazi's where the jews were hiding!? This is discusting!
Worst thing is... because the controvesie is out, it will only take a couple months, before they start showing similar yet slightly less violent commercials. Cause thats how they work, they were just testing how far they could go before being reprimanded by the public.
Wow, was this commercial made to make Eco-friendly people look like fucking pricks that just use violence? Just like how the media made all Muslims look like terrorists.
Don't get me wrong, i like dark humor but this is just sick shit.
It is oviously propaganda. If you're against the Co2 religion, you'll be "wiped out". I also think this campaign promotes something that's written down on the guidestones of georgia.... reducing the worlds population. And Carbon Emission is a perfect excuse. Do you like paying taxes on your exhale of Co2?
I plan on contributing to the global warming trend by burning up as much 112 octane leaded fuel I can burn through my race car engine this year. Thats about 1 gallon per 1/4 mile pass.
1949speedy 3 weeks ago 2
disgusting!
SharkyssMachine 3 weeks ago
I don't support the NWO.
Killerojaws 3 weeks ago 5
1010 no way are you going to blow me up now?!?!?
jefferylake62 3 weeks ago 2
Thats a good example of the new world order... ,!,, for all you supporters!
Maryfuknsunshine 3 weeks ago
That is what I call brainwashing. It seems the same ones that were responsible for the rise of Nazism in Germany are at it again.
BazzNewYork 3 weeks ago
Libertarians respect your right to disagree. Disagree with a socialist and he/she/it wants to kill you.
blader45bc 3 weeks ago
FUCKED UP!FUCKED UP!FUCKED UP!FUCKED UP! REALLY FUCKED UP TY FK BOOM
seongwonchoi 3 weeks ago
Disgusting! Only a brain dead government suck up would belive this EPA GESTOPO propaganda B.S. Al gore and his cronies is being sue by 30,000 scientist that know this a global carbon shceme, now there about to have a enviromental french police gestopo inforce it! So if u really think we need forceful intervetion to end "global warming" well put on your goose stepper's and seich hail you nazi zombie!
oklahomakidz 3 weeks ago
Its so sad to look at the comments here, goes to show how alienated and futile people really are ! FUCK !
jefersonvilaede 1 month ago
liberals, conservatives, communists, capitalists .. When will you people learn? There is no such thing! There is no sides! Thats what the government wants you to believe and follow, they want you divided against one another, this is so simple that im baffled that people are so dumb in order not to recognize this!!!!!!!!!!!!
jefersonvilaede 1 month ago
this aint a fuckin communist thing, you people are so dumb, stop trying to name things like that! This is a simple conspiracy, anyone not getting it, go back and study some more, please.
jefersonvilaede 1 month ago
The communist wet dream: Eliminate the few that still disagree with your propganda.
The environmentalist movement is clearly infiltrated by communists ( and feminists are simply socialists in panties by the way )
daramix1 1 month ago
Believe in climate change or not, this is hilarious. I hope when I grow up, I don't turn into a complete tight-ass. Wait a minute. I'm 63. What's with you people?
blackearthmax 1 month ago
typical liberals. Believe what we say or die! And they say conservatives are the ones who don't have open minds.
IamRoy27 1 month ago
The guy who gets blown up in the third video does not sound English.
MissBethSabAmyJoker 2 months ago
Skully !!!!! mulder where are you?
acerza89 2 months ago
Um...okay?
emantabrizi 2 months ago
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Flagan65 2 months ago
the thumbs up are because people agree with you that it isn't funny, the thumbs down are because people are raging at this video
shapeshiftwizard 2 months ago
oops, they let their insanity out of the closet on this one, eh? it's like a serial killer who shows you his collection of cat skulls and bottles of saved urine. kind of a clue what kind of person you're dealing with.
eleutheromaniac 3 months ago
no pressure u guys
sambugbug 3 months ago
lol
K3NatCSS 3 months ago
Abscheußlich.
theworldeatswithyou 4 months ago
If you don't agree with us, we won't pressure you, we'll just kill you. The lesson to others nearby will be clear: you disagree with us, you die.
Screw people like Galileo and so on who might actually be able to detect such problems and devise solutions through disagreeing with the bullshit that exists in societies. Let's go back to the Dark Ages constant threat of torture and murder for disagreement, and that'll solve our problems (which clearly aren't about scientific results but obedience).
MisterC0 4 months ago
This is even worse than the Dark Ages, because at least they pressured you back then and you could save your skin.
MisterC0 4 months ago
Does anybody need more proof that the environmentalists are evil communists who would even kill your baby if it disagrees with them?!
Imagine a conservative group made a video were dissidents get spanked: It would be in the news around the world for weeks to demonize all conservatives!
Chrilsama 4 months ago
Later that day...
"Buy our product...no pressure"
Vladimirsplee 6 months ago
This is proof positive that the environmental wackjobs are intolerant ideological totalitarian facists. They believe it's their way or no way. This would make even Stalin and Hitler cringe with disgust.
And the supporters of this kind of environmentalism would claim that they believe in free speech but they sure as hell do not believe in free thought. Look at what they do to those who dissent with their opinions. They shut them down and try to destroy them. They are fundamentalist freaks.
jburr36 6 months ago
I love this XD
SPARTANJACK15 8 months ago
3:46 LOL The muffled sound behind the sound proofing was epic!!!
theevilmeister 8 months ago
Wrong on many levels. Screw the makers of the video.
baneofzakhaev 9 months ago
WHY TIE UP THE COMMENTS SECTION WITH TIT FOR TAT BICKERING, CAN'T YOU PRIVATE MESSAGE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR INTO.
By the way of course we can trust David Rothschild, the Rothschild's wouldn't fund or invest in environmentally negligent practices would they, Stupid clown in his bottle bout laughing at the chumps that swallow this crap & the ones that will still have to pay for them screwing it all up in the first place for a tax that will do nothing for the environment.
waitpu4 9 months ago
Oh my god. The final sequence in the studio with blood on the glass then the logo.
riverplate0101 9 months ago
@Watnawootie Rofl. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah, Im the loser here. Last time I checked, youre the worthless sentimental heap of nothing professing himself to stand for all that is righteous in the world. Namely, income redistribution. The fact of the matter is, is that not all people are equal. Some people are simply better than others. Judging from your disgustingly pathetic drivel youve been spewing for the last day or so, youre one of the bottomfeeders. Go die somewhere filth.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats a very inaccurate presentation of my argument. And no, my opinions are based upon sensible, logical processing. Not frivolous and childish outbursts of emotion. And really, your entire argument can be summed up simply as the vice of detraction attempting to disguise itself as the virtue of contrition. Blatant self-righteous hypocrisy and selfishness.You say my methods are all about me, whereas your methods are if anything, exactly the same if not moreso.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thanks for quoting Monty Python. No, not really. This is Youtube. I dont go around and talk about things like this openly with others for obvious reasons. Not unless they show themselves to be of a similar mindset. Which there are many...
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Please. The same things can be said of your precious Alexandrian philosophy. Multiculturalism, especially mixed with Christianity, CANNOT ever work. Ever. It will fail. Its a culture that proscribes self preservation. A culture that rejects strength. A culture that rejects true progress. It condemns itself to a sort of biological edema. You keep letting that tumor grow, you keep dumbing your populations down, and you WILL collapse. Every single time.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well I do love Nietzsche. Have the Birth of Tragedy, and the Will to Power amongst others in my collection. Got some Richard Wagner here as well. Not as prominent in philosophy as Frederick was, but still a brilliant guy.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes well the pendulum will ALWAYS go all the way to the left, then all the way to the right. Both sides will always exist. You will do the best you can, we will do the best we can. You succeed for awhile, you fail, we take over, we succeed for awhile, we fail, you take over. We will see where this will lead us in the long run. Perhaps technology will enable a system to eventually last forever. Perhaps not. We can only wait and see.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, you love to get a running headstart, only for me to put my foot out at the last second and you eat curb. I said... that the only reason why these totalitarian states ceased to exist was because of western interference. North Korea still very much exists regardless of its "human rights violations" the same goes for any other currently existing country youd like to name. Once again, you jump the gun. These people would be listed among the undesireables beforehand.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie No system is wholly perfect. Namely because humanity itself is imperfect. This western, hedonistic neurosis cannot last forever. The old forces of relatively voluntary cohesion are dissipating. Absolute authority WILL emerge in the near future. What shape that absolute authority will take is for the moment unclear. But if you look at what world leaders are discussing, all you have to do is read John Holdren, Obamas chief science advisor regarding population control to get an idea.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie No, perhaps not. But then again, you seem to profess yourself as quite the opponent of such a regime. You undoubtably would be listed as one for that obvious fact alone. Your fear is not necessary. In fact, your doubt and in fact amusement will only ever lend itself to the manifestation of such a movement coming to power. Just look at the history of some of the groups youve criticised. Who saw the Nazis coming during their early years? Noone. They were jeered at. Look what happened.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie In case youve forgotten, the ONLY reason why those states failed was because they had the totality of western civilization as their enemies. THIS time it will be western civilization as a whole to undergo this process. Who will oppose us then? The Chinese? As if they would even care. Anyone who deigns to manifest himself as a leader of opposition will be swiftly identified and taken care of one way or the other. With technology comes infinite improvement. The game has changed.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie If it did, it would only go to show that in truth my perceived strength was my weakness. The point of it all would regardless be however, that strength alone prevails.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes, that is my function. To remain on the greener side of the fence. Always have been, always will be. Period. Im very good at it.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie At the same time, I would advise you to PRAY that my said system isnt implemented either by myself, or by others. Even though that wont do you any good. It has been said time and time again, "It can never happen here" "It can never happen now" "It can never happen to me" only to be proven wrong over and over and over again. Your lack of faith in the resolve and the very real power of others will be and has always been, your undoing.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie The failed states you are referring to always failed mainly to external influences and or poor organizational skills on the part of the leadership and or poor intelligence employed by said state leaders. Once global integration has set in, and the total surveillance system installed, it will be easy enough to control it.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats not necessarily true. There is a limited amount of people in this world. Its simply a matter of becoming the best through constant, and rigorous personal development.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes well, the Jews had plenty of time to get out of Germany but they refused to leave without their property and thus, the rest is history. Once again, bullets will not be necessary. Neither will bodies in the ideal situation. They will simply cease to reproduce. And thus, they will be able to enjoy life but will not have children. At least most people will not have children. At the beginning.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again you are all too eager to jump into the deep end. Take it slowly. I never claimed I didnt know who the Shaws were. The renowned eugenecists. I said that I was not aware that wikileaks had anything to do with them. I as a sentient being do not require anybodys permission to pass judgement onto anyone. Whereas others are free to do the same. A contest of personal strengths, general willpower, and determination regarding the day to day development will determine who wins.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie For a couple of very simple reasons. Technology is far more advanced than it used to be, and we have the old models to analyse. Both in strength and weakness.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Such a pathetically weak assessment. In the real world, any given person has 100 times as many reasons as to why they would want and indeed, should kill a human being than they do a common house spider. Yet they never hesitate to stomp the guts out of the latter upon sight.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie The victims of said circumstances bring these things upon themselves. EIther adapt, or be crushed by progress. Such is the natural way of things. If these people, and lets face it, the vast majority of said persons would be among the types who lie about, make excuses, procrastinate from cradle to grave, justify their inactivity, and point the finger at the elite and at the government as the source of all their strife. Its THEY who are responsible for the sorry state they are in.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie That statement was pure assumption. Based on nothing. The details would all be worked out to perfection and indeed, justified not only by their effectiveness, but by the realization of necessary ends.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes well the ends are worth such a means. The will to survive unto itself does not justify the impact that any given life has upon not only its surroundings, but upon other living beings. One might as well -again- justify the existence of the AIDS virus or the cancer cell. You are you to deny the tumor its right to live after all?
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well, if the shoe fits, Ill be sure to wear it thats all. What necessarily designates me as anything but? Your distaste of my point of view? Obviously.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats a very romantic depiction of my childhood, but completely off base. So it is meaningless.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well once again, China is, when you look at the whole, a highly disorganized, dilapidated nation whose only noticeable function is the enhancement of the party. They arent seeking to truly resolve these problems as can be easily seen by the torrent of abuses not only concerning corruption, but concerning a lack of strongfisted repercussion concerning dissidence. Well frankly, with the power of technology enhancing at the exponential rate that it is, this scenario is inevitable.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Advanced technology changes everything. What is possible in all respects. Especially in regards to the power elite.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well frankly what defines an enlightened elite, superior knowledge, intelligence, motivation, and economic standing. Im well on my way my friend in those respects. Youve pointed out a single isolated example out of perhaps a couple dozen throughout history. Utterly insignificant point.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Primarily the economic model. That and its fusion with Christianity. Its external threats didnt really amount to much. Its internal strife resulting from revolts and disease etc were elements but not the main ones.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie State sponsored coercion only in the realm of reproductive rights.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes it is very good of me. All of the most pressing questions will then have finally been resolved. Scientifically I might add. No, these ideas are my own. Im not familiar with the story youre citing.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie How many times are you going to ask me to refute this exact point over and over and over again? Ive told you repeatedly that if the given state were to demonstrate the necessity, and the effectiveness of their means of application, then I would abide by all of the edicts attached to said legislation. Even if it required these things of me. If you say this again, you can simply refer back to this comment.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie The same thing can be said of the champions of so called social justice. Look at the late stages of the Roman Empire. Freedom for almost everyone! It collapsed with its unsustainable economic strain. As we are witnessing within America right now. This CANNOT be sustained. The model failed before, it will fail now. Technology will not save them this time. Perhaps next time if it comes to that, but thats a long way off.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats not necessarily true. In the mind of every man woman and child, there was a flat world around them. They simply hadnt gone far enough to witness the borders first hand. TRUTH has nothing to do with consensus. Then again, to the colorblind the sky being black is not only truth, but is truth, fact, and reality. Who are you to tell them otherwise according to your own philosophy of relative freedom, accomodation, and consolation?
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie This is very understandable. Only you fail to notice that the people who would be considered would probably be better off anyways beyond the veil than they are currently. Either that or mostly unaware of what is happening to them at any given moment anyways.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, you are attempting in futility to paint me as a hypocrite. You arent getting anywhere with it, so you might as well drop it.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes, thats right. Hence, my former aside that it would be highly unlikely that I would be considered as an "undesirable." Once again, this aside having nothing to do with my willingness to comply with these methods if they were to become law.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, these solutions that I am promoting would have to be thoroughly tested by accedited experts before they were to be implemented. Our understanding of the effectiveness of these solutions would by then, be as real as our understanding of the equation of 2+2=4 in time. Thus, they would inevitably be implemented.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes thats also correct. My use of the word objective of course meaning of course as objective as anyone can possibly be both in an absolute sense and a relative sense. What is generally determined to be "real" is the consensus within any given social group regarding consistent and observable phonomena.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes, except this time the reasons would not even in part be imagined or conjured via propaganda. It would be a very real solution to a very real group of very significant problems that we have failed to deal with for thousands of years.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Sorry, Dartmouth. But you know as well as I do that doing such a thing would change nothing. It would be akin to the monk lighting himself on fire during the Vietnam era. It would simply be another picture that Time Magazine would use to bolster its revenues for a period of time. Another image that you could look up via google images.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well I am very capable. I graduated valedictorian from high school, am currently a senior here at Darmouth, and will be graduating this year hopefully with Summa Cum Laude to attach to my resume. Im also at the moment developing my own business via a online marketing platform called Storesonline. Im doing VERY well for my age as a matter of fact. Im only 23. Ive got all the time in the world. But once again, I would apply the same standards to myself as I would on others.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes thats basically right. I do know better simply because the personal passion is there for me. That and Im actually capable of objective thoguht and analysis. Regardless of how desperately you try to paint my thinking process as a subjective one.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes well your refusal to do so does not refute the effectiveness of my proposed methods. In time, perhaps even within a few decades, the elites will demand it. As perhaps will the majority of Americans come soon enough once they realize what these proponents of global fabian socialism have in store for the relative buying power of the average American in the long run.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, I said that I would comply even if I were to become a target, as long as these edicts were based on accurate and effective studies that were proven to solve said problems. I simply stated as an aside, that it would be unlikely that I would become a target.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, if the solutions were to be communicated clearly, and their accuracy and effectiveness were to be presented clearly and truthfully to the public at large, I would abide by these edicts.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well of course genetic deficiencies would be the most immediate factor, followed by statistics regarding predispositions to criminal activity, extent of economic liability to the state, education, amicability, and so forth. If they refuse, they will be detained and what will follow is self-explanatory. China is inefficient. Dirty, overpopulated to a disgusting extent and so on. The interest and followthrough simply isnt there. Whereas it would be in the ideal society.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie I dont expect anything from you. This is a discussion. Im presenting my viewpoints, and you are expressing yours. You refuse to acknowledge the effectiveness of my methods simply because it contradicts what you perceive to be "right".
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well honestly I perceive myself as able to provide something worthwhile to such efforts. Im certainly capable and motivated enough to contribute something significant. If this is synonymous with your "extra-special cog" metaphor, then I suppose thats right. Then again, were all cogs anyways even within the current established order.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, you dont have to literally kill people to decrease the size of the population over time. Voluntary sterilization and involuntary in some cases would certainly solve these problems. No gas ovens necessary. This would solve a great many problems outside the realm of the environment. Namely, welfare recipience rates, an exploding population growth within impoverished, uneducated, and negligent populations, etc etc.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes well, that would spell the end of their problems one way or another even if these things were to be applied to me. I would no longer have to worry about my day to day responsibilities, social pressures, etc etc. Sure, Id rather live than die, but the concept of death really isnt that frightening. After all, we must all face it eventually one way or another. I dont think it would necessarily be via a gas oven, but even if it were, it couldnt last more than a minute at most.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Perhaps. Thats the case whether we live in a system that embraces capitalism, socialism, or communism. As long as the actualization of hierarchy exists, this will be the case. It will happen regardless of whether eugenics will put into policy or not. I dont see how this makes me an idiot, besides the fact that its contrary to how you think things SHOULD be.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Your last point is almost correct. You are incorrectly however, assuming that I perceive such things to be necessarily evil, whereas I consider these things to be a prerequisite of our overall survival in the long run. A source of limited resources and space for obvious reasons cannot support an unlimited population. Try to square that circle and the only explanation that will emerge will be natural selection.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie No, I really dont think Im an idiot. Thats like saying that the Nazis were eventually going to be the victims of their own eugenics program. Ridiculous notion. No, Im simply stating the obvious. If such a thing were to occur, considering the fact that not only am I able, but willing to assist with its implementation, would almost certainly render me immune to the category of persons were talking about.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yeah thats about right, at least for a time. Until the existing population level was reduced to sustainable levels and the growth rate was leveled off. Only then could a chance of absolute human solidarity and of universal contentedness be possible.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, your inclusion of the absence of myself clause, is not valid. Ive said repeatedly that I would apply the same standard to myself if the time came. I simply added that its highly unlikely that I personally, would be included in the "undesireables" category. Thats all. As for the decision making, yes, perhaps its unlikely that I will man the decision making chair, but I suppose only time will tell wont it. The same would apply to you if you actually aimed for it.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Fucked in the head according to who's standards? Yours? Who are you according to your own logic to impose your moral or ethical presuppositions on anyone? Talk about hypocrisy.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yes I am fully aware of this. Unfortunately for your "tip", morality itself is not absolute. What is generally considered moral here may not be a few hours away. It could possibly be said in some areas in the middle east that not only is killing Jews legal, but moral as well. You fail to take this obvious fact into consideration.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Elected bodies of course. Thats the nature of democracy. Either that or self appointed dictators. Take your pick.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Oh no, I never said I wouldnt be willing to get my hands dirty, I was simply describing your depiction of the situation as being misplaced.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Sure it does. If the government has the right to regulate the self interests of others, so would it be able to do so in this regard as well.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Amusing how somebody who claims to hold a position of relative moral superiority condemns a self-sacrificial act made in the name of the whole of humanity calls somebody else a monster. You may as well call Christ a monster. You may as well call Abraham a monster. Consequently I do, because it was done in the name of baseless and one could say, retarded faith and not demonstrative and established fact.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie No, I simply was pointing out the obvious fact that your description of what would happen as not only completely unrealistic, but fundamentally different from what would actually happen and what I would consider to be acceptable. Only if these said solutions were proven not only to be fully capable of solving the problems and not simply remedying the effects of the problems temporarily, and once these solutions were to be passed through legislation, would I abide by them.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie It depends on the significance of said 1 degree. An international scientific panel of proven experts would propose the solutions in their entirety, and the politicians would pass those into law once the accuracy of the reports had been proven beyond a doubt to be correct. Once again, the criteria regarding whom would be chosen for such things is basically self-evident.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well they've done things like that before. Look up the Tuskegee experiment. The US government radiated foster children to death to test the threshold for exposure to radiation in the 40s 50s and 60s in response to the growing threat of nuclear war. The ends justify the means. Putting this through legislation would be very easy. Write the bill, vote it through, and implement it. Easy enough.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie I wouldnt have the child to begin with. I would expect others to do the same. It wouldnt be "just me". After all, what is the significance of any one person compared to the likes of the whole of human civilization?
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie You obviously need to have everything spelled out to the letter to you or it goes miles over your head. The comparison that I made between the special ed kid and the prodigy is the obvious crevasse that separates you and I intellectually. Me being on the higher side of course. Lol
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well frankly that would be unnecessary and unrealistic. Such a thing would never in reality be carried out in such a way. Of course I would never allow myself to be made subject to such a thing, but I would certainly understand it. I could not condemn what I knew to be true and necessary. Of course in reality, I personally would never be selected as such. At least in all likelihood.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie That is, if the solution promoted was well grounded and undoubtedly would result in said solutions successfully of course. This could be demonstrated by selective testing in controlled environments.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Keep up? Thats like the local special ed kid calling the straight A prodigy a moron. Sad... the mob CAME to demand it after being bombarded by carefully crafted propaganda techniques and composition. They are easily influenced. Yes, I have repeatedly answered your question. If the people who make the decisions, namely the policy makers, came up with an objective solution to this worlds problems, and voiced the details to the public including myself, I would abide by it. Period.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie I think its a factor, and not a slight one, but in its natural setting, one would presume that coal and oil plants produce far more pollution and carbon emissions into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant does.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well most of the people who died in Stalins Soviet Russia died from starvation due to butchering the land to promote his "scientific" theories regarding Communism and agricultural policy. Sure he killed people directly, but one might as well say the US has done the same in regard to the likes of the Timoreans, the Vietnamese, the Japanese, the Guatemalans, the Dominicans, the Libyans, the Iraqis and so on.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie You may be right to say that not all Jews are guilty of these things but they have consciously and intentionally created these general impressions and paid the price for them. People need someone to scapegoat. People need enemies. Whether it be the likes of George Bush, Obama, David Rockefeller, the Rothschilds, the Jews, the Communists, the Islamic fundamentalists etc etc etc. Its the same story over and over forever. Its human nature.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well the prejudice of the Jews wasnt and hasnt been due to blind hatred. They are notorious for strutting about claiming to be the Chosen people, and are constantly infusing themselves into positions of high finance, who come to possess the ability to encourage, and indeed to finance war of several stripes and have done so many times throughout history. They have bankrupted nations, created communism and some say capitalism as well, their "contributions" to history, well....
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, your analysis is based completely upon relatively baseless preconceived notions. Perhaps its true 51% of the time, but you fail to account for the remaining 49%. Such gross misinterpretations of entire ideologies not only promotes ignorance but hatred as well. You should at least attempt to practice what you preach you know.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, its not what the MOB wants, its what those intelligent, dedicated, and hard working enough to come to a comprehensive understanding of the problems and the associated solutions to said problems decide. If a standard is agreed upon, it must be enforced to the letter, and with absolute objectivity. The criteria for such a solution would frankly come as almost self-evident to those involved in the decision making process.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well the fact of the matter is, is that you dont know me so please dont presume to speak for me. Its a little ironic too, someone condemning condescending and ruthless generalizations and then goes about 2 seconds later at makes one himself and finds it amusing. Talk about a hypocrite.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie In case youve forgotten, both you and I, indeed everyone, is a part of the mob. Whether one is a leader or not, they are still a part of the mob. Perhaps not the nucleus, but a part of it nevertheless. There must be reasons as to why the mob comes to accept genocide as an acceptable means to an end must there not? People like you will evermore point your fat fingers at the leaders of these people, but really its within human nature itself to manifest itself in such a way.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie In case you misread me, which you did, I said I'm NOT saying that solar activity CANT affect climate in significant ways. Please quote me correctly next time.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats about right. It would mean that I have to sharpen up my skills to overtake said thief/murderer etc. Thats all. If I cant adapt, I die. Thats nature right there. I didnt make the rules, I simply observe them and live by them.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie No, not at all. Im not saying that solar activity amongst other things cant effect climate in significant ways. The fact is, is that trying to say that we can dump crap around everywhere above ground, underground, in the ocean and in the air, whether it be biodegradable or radioactive with a half-life of some billions years or so, without it altering the very fabric of our respective ecosystems is beyond ludicrous. Yet thats what youre doing.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie You must have skipped over my response to this question. Its not about the mob, its about maintaining the mob. Its about exceeding the mob. Its about controlling the mob. And contrary to what you just said, empirical evidence is everything. Our concept of morality is really in reality only a cause and effect list of what results in emotional responses. What instills fear, sadness, hate, anger is considered evil, while what instills love, happiness, etc is considered good. Thats all.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats the nature of pure capitalism buddy. Nobodys going to judge me at the end of time in my world friend. Whats to stay my hand then? Only the fear of legal retribution. But what happens when the perpetrator is smart enough to always evade the system? Or even better, to break and make a new system? Thats what you call a winner. It all boils down to who gets what. Thats all. Satisfaction. All of it.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Who said Im a progressive? Perhaps on this issue, but overall Im a conservative. Thats right. With the exception of his views on the role of personal liberties in an ever-evolving social construct, and perhaps on some of the details regarding the significance of race, Hitler pretty much had it spot on. Its a natural law. The lion kills the wildebeest. Every time. Only when an accident happens does it go the other way.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats right. I would expect an explanation, but if it were justified, Id accept it. If I were to become lobotomized in a sense by an accident or so forth, I'd tell them to pull the plug. I would be rendered incapable of justifying my own existence in a real and practical way, and thus would be disgusted with myself and with life. Id be a burden on my family, and wouldnt wish that for them. Its called personal sacrifice. Something youre obviously not familiar with.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Well the people studying this issue have reached what can almost be called an absolute consensus. The severity of the problem is the only thing that has been debated though. The fact of the matter is, is that the longer we wait, and the longer we put off the implementation of the necessary policies which will be needed to stem off this problem, the worse it will get.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Survival of the fittest. Period. You dont have to like it, its a natural law. You can go ahead and say, "The will to survive and to replicate itself justifies the existence of a cancer cell, or of a black widow spider, or of an HIV virus." Decisions like this must be made objectively.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Once again, this is a matter that transcends morality. This is a matter that concerns the very survival of our species. We cant afford to require ourselves to wear the white silk gloves when addressing this problem.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie First of all, the temperature change from the cretaceous to the ice age took millions of years and was likely caused in part to dust thrown into the atmosphere due to a meteorite impact. Second, the medieval warming period was only a difference of a couple tenths of 1 degree celsius and only in the northern atlantic region. Were talking about 1 full degree celsius throughout the entire pacific/atlantic/indian/arctic oceans. BIG difference this being only less than a century as well
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Thats not necessarily true. Its called state sponsored reproductive polices. We cant allow for everyone to crank out 15 kids like tasty bread and demand a check from the government anymore. It is simply not sustainable. Period.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Fine. If people want to threaten the natural balance of the planet to the extent in which the very fate of human civilization is at stake, I would sooner promote the death of individuals and even of children instead of the whole of humanity. Yep. Ill say it again. If its a choice between some people dying and less people dying, Ill choose for less people dying. Im not going to play the self-righteous child who sits on his hands and demand that these problems solve themselves
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Not at all. For you to claim that the oceans of the entire planet have increased by over 1 degree celcius over the last 80 years is due to solar activity without the occurrence of significant natural disaster is beyond idiotic. Thanks for trying to play Mr blase with a dash of hyperbole. Frankly it just makes me look better.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Last time I checked, youre the one professing yourself to be in a position of relative moral superiority not me. Im the practical one, youre the, "Lets continue to pass on our critical problems of over-consumption and wastefulness to posterity as usual." Yes, youre absolutely right. I cant win in the marketplace of ideas because I point out what are clearly very significant problems, and people counter with frivolous notions of "This presents us with a moral problem" nonsense.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie The world is not a bottomless garbage dump. More people = more industry = more pollution and waste = more deforestation = more extermination of wildlife, ecosystems, and potential cures for a variety of human ailments. If its less people or no people, its less people. Which unfortunately for us, is the state we are being faced with in the immediate future. Alternative reusable green energy sources are not readily available or affordable. Therefore business wont go for it.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Lol. Fine. If you want to sit here, and gargle your Exxon Mobil mouthwash, and spew it back onto public forums like youre doing now, then you can only expect to be ridiculed. Over a third of the world's coral reefs have died within the last 50 years. Ecosystems that required millions of years to developed have been wiped out within a few decades of excessive industrialization. The corporations will never stop unless you hold a gun to their head. Literally. End of story.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Yeah this coming from somebody clueless and childish enough to label someone as unintelligent and immature on a whim based on nothing other than contempt. Way to add hypocrisy to your rapidly expanding list of personal shortcomings.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Oh I think I articulated my point quite clearly. Your self righteous profusions are pointless. Go away.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Not at all. Theyve got Microsoft lined up behind them. What are you going to do about it? Cry about it on Youtube? Go for it. Expect criticism.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
@Watnawootie Go weep in the streets. Go smoke a bag of that pity pot youve got lying around in some stash spot.
ColdCypher 10 months ago
Anybody who has politically incorrect thoughts deserves to die. Say hello to 1984 (Heil Stalin!, Heil Gore!, Heil UN!, Heil Hitler!).
pkpapers 10 months ago
nuclear plants are better i suppose HAHAH!! I dont like fossil fuels either but the reason is not carbon dioxide. The reason is carcinogens from the smoke that hurt your health (Lung diseases, cancer). We should use things like HEMP to make diesel fuel (Which is what it was originally intended for) but the oil companies wont allow that to hurt their profits (Why let an easily grown weed to be legal which anyone can grow but not anyone can mine oil in the ground)
greatestsongsofLIFE 11 months ago
Fuck you.
BostonxKing 11 months ago
Can't believe you're all so shocked at how the 10:10 campaign attempted to educate you
princesshedgiehog 1 year ago
Imagine in any conservatives put out a video like this, the media would of been all over it condemning them as nut jobs. When liberals do it....and nothing in the mainstream media about it
funk7000 1 year ago
disgusting!
rhududu28 1 year ago
id say no then punch the teacher
no one tells me what to do
KEM0SAVY 1 year ago
i showed this to my little sister and know she is scared to go to sleep cuz she thinks she is gonner blow up
MsStacylee 1 year ago
This is hilarious. From a 'so bad it's funny' standpoint. And from the joke. As a tv add, it's not funny,.
MrScarstorm 1 year ago
It's a shame this ad didnt run on television. The global warming Gestapo would have had carry around signs and scream at people on the street and still no one would pay attention. Why don't we show how a fetus is ripped out of a womb. And then have a woman say "it's your right to privacy we're fighting for"
LifesHardLessons 1 year ago
haha so funny lets kill people who disagree like all the dictators did
IAMDOPED 1 year ago
And the poor people from Greenpeace are trying to campaign in a non-violent way.
You give enviromentalists everywhere a bad name!
By even JOKING about blowing up people who don't want to co-operate with you, you may put yourself right next to communist Russia and the 9/11 terrorists.
abcdzxywful 1 year ago
If there is any justice in the cosmos, karma WILL run over this dogma...
Gnemesis42a 1 year ago
if you study history youll see hitler did this to convince people killing jews was ok.if you cant see the propganda then your extremely stupid and ignorant.this 10%cut doesnt even effect nature by 1%.
tomatoedrama1 1 year ago
Come off it - this is a brilliant bit of British humour from a brilliant British screen writer (Richard Curtis). Its obviously a joke! Its not targeted at children (the bbfc give it a rating that limits aims to stop it being shown to kids). Oh and the best bit - this never got aired - so many idiots like u guys complained that they never showed it. This is a witty piece that actually makes fun of environmental hysteria while putting across a valid message. ITS FUNNY!
muse28 1 year ago
@muse28 yes....blowing up school children is funny.....killing people who dont agree with you is harlious....stupid sheep doing anything your government tells you.
tomatoedrama1 1 year ago
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muse28 1 year ago
FUCKEN WOW...What disgusting sadness. With the successful tests of human combustion in the early 1900's and the reverse subliminal message from the RFID chip guy saying, "we will blow up your ass from anywhere", this confirms it. And funny its 10:10. How many times have you caught yourself instantly looking at your cell phone at 10:10 or similar times ie 11:11, 3:33 and so on... All that is righteous and good be with us.
krezariel 1 year ago
Wow, this doesn't even constitute as propaganda any more, this is pure indoctrination. Even Hitler never made commercials in which people would blow up if they didn't tell de nazi's where the jews were hiding!? This is discusting!
Worst thing is... because the controvesie is out, it will only take a couple months, before they start showing similar yet slightly less violent commercials. Cause thats how they work, they were just testing how far they could go before being reprimanded by the public.
DaTruthExists 1 year ago 2
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muse28 1 year ago
Wow, was this commercial made to make Eco-friendly people look like fucking pricks that just use violence? Just like how the media made all Muslims look like terrorists.
xsasuke10x 1 year ago 2
this is fucked! even for me!
kamilakamek 1 year ago
what disgusting shit... sorry...
Don't get me wrong, i like dark humor but this is just sick shit.
It is oviously propaganda. If you're against the Co2 religion, you'll be "wiped out". I also think this campaign promotes something that's written down on the guidestones of georgia.... reducing the worlds population. And Carbon Emission is a perfect excuse. Do you like paying taxes on your exhale of Co2?
The same propaganda shit like the "green police".
KRAFTWERK2K6 1 year ago
CO2 DOES NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCE GLOBAL TEMPERATURES
jazzeffc 1 year ago 2
lol eco fags suck... This advertisement will probably make people stop caring about the environment instead of caring.
FFPAULPAO 1 year ago
what sick bastards had this idea? im up for saving the planet and all but this is just wrong
FISTOFFURY126 1 year ago
very satanic message
VictorECooper1 1 year ago
So disgusting. Dogma will be the death of us all.
coldserved 1 year ago 10
Believe Al Gore or die kids!!! Liberals are the new Dictators.
candjcalhoun 1 year ago
I LOVE CARBON!
garagecrap 1 year ago
Global warming is krieg!!! let's kill this planet!!!
Andzinus 1 year ago
This is fucking hilarious.
69NiggaPlease 1 year ago