Philippines Tears of Illegal Abortions and Over-population of Manila Undercover News P2

[Rikaishi]

This is what pro-lifers in the west have largely forgotten. The torrent of misery and suffering endured by a society that has no access to legal abortion.

They talk about about crimes against bundles of cells that don't even have a nervous system, yet completely ignore the hundreds of thousands of women who would suffer agony, death or poverty each year if they had their way.

[itubeyoublah]

so if all the children lived in nice conditions they'd be so adorable...but since they live in squalor kill them - really nice.

[Eddiecochran21]

My mother wanted an abortion but she had been pregnant for a too long time.A good doctor prevented her to have an abortion and thanks to Him and God I`m alive.Philipinos should be given contraceptives like condoms.

Killing an unborn children surely is a sin but using condom surely isn`t,whatever the Pope says!

[brwncrss1]

Primeramente dios,,,that's what I mean,, on my previous comment,

[brwncrss1]

God!!! how come human being can live like that?? Very unfair ,for one side too much wealth in this world,for the other side people can,t have no even a single meal on a daily basis,life is not equal for some people,may be some day,alhamdulillah,primeramente dies

[kamiaussie]

with out sex they cant live

[tcrusader1]

This is the result of bad governance of previous president Arroyo and her allies in the government for allowing the population grow at rapid rate but can not provide them adequate jobs to sustain their families, forcing them to search for work in foreign countries so they can send remittances back home. The failure to remove leaders who won election fraud and allowing bishops to have strong influence in the legislative process is one of the major flaws in Philippines.

[lakersph1]

BEFORE: Kung walang corrupt, walang mahirap.

NOW: Kung walang ipapanganak, walang mahirap.

[610juno]

again this video does not answer the root why women choose to abort their children.

still the real reason why women abort their children is poverty, their fear of not giving them a good and decent life, or for others, because of shame due to unwanted pregnancy. my unsolicited advice for both is to plan their pregnancy, no sex outside marriage and if the couple are not yet ready of having children. the purpose always of sex should be procreation.

[webkinzgirl008]

IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT HAVING CHILDREN THEN STEP HAVING SEX!!

[elenavlada]

THE KIDS ARE CUTE!!,, to bad their living in the slums

[dadadodooooo]

@CuerdoDelVinualo kung ikaw ang anak at gutom na gutom ka na pero walang mapakain sayo ang magulang mo, hindi ka nila kayang buhayin at halos magmukha ka ng patay. Sa tingin mo hindi iisipin ng magulang mo na sana nagcondom na lang sila? o kaya isipin mo na sana naisip nilang magcondom?

[sashmiller93]

"her surviving the abortion meant god had forgiven her" forgiven her? for what? trying to feed her other kids? if god were real he would be a real asshole playing jokes on his little pawns.

[imashnipleman1]

7 pounds is 14 dollars in american money which converts to 600+ pesos in filipino money which is really expensive there.

[inewkiller]

woman being slavery by man thats it cost having big family...

[louislungbubble]

the problem here is the catholic church discouraging contraception and abortion because they insist on no sex before marriage ..coupled with the nature of the filipino people whereby the guys just run on a rampage of rutting ,adultery and keeping mistresses...the girls are the victims of all this..but always seem to fall into the trap....i am a brit and i have been there many times...its the best country ive ever been to despite of all the social shit that happens.. wonderfull people they are.

[gulbace]

you can have sex can you ha,,,,,,

[lenka4life]

do you know how to solve that problem? kill them all

[earthpower5000]

instead of killing the baby why dont they sell the baby when it is born or put in the orphanage?

[xake19]

If these bastard Christian fundamentalist want to help the poor, they should encourage abortion and stop pouring money fighting abortion. They are more concerned about stopping abortions than helping out the already existing poor children. They want to make sure more and more POOR CHILDREN are born into poverty that simply can't be supported. Where is the f'ing logic in this?

Religion serves to destroy everything and make the powers that be fatter and richer and hurt the people they serve

[gearzone2611]

@xake19 Who are the fundamentalist christians? The root of the problem comes from the looting of society, whether its political, economical or monetary. All this talk about overpopulated Philippines is nonsense! Most so called overpopulated are to be found in urban areas, not the entirety of the country. Overcrowded urban areas are in the big cities, which the Philippines is Not overpopulated. Encourage abortion? I dont think investors would do that, reason: most of them don't have jobs & money.

[bodz612]

@xake19...abortion a sin against GOD...what we need is to have a good moral and spiritual teaching from the bible....this catholic priest are good for nothing spiritual teacher, they just make money...

[dragonpat666]

this is a horrible shame! death to catholicism!!!!!!  abortion and birth control must remain legal here in america.

[mrandrewdlr]

The victims here are the unborn. I feel bad for the kid in the background who has to listen to her mother tell the story on how she wanted to abort him. This is a shame.

[dragonpat666]

@mrandrewdlr its a shame for people like you to be stupid and ignore what is right in front of your eyes. no such thing as an unborn "victim" you cannot tell me that more children don't die in this squalid poverty then would have "died" because of an abortion.

[mrandrewdlr]

@dragonpat666 43,000,000 babies die because of abortion a year worldwide. That's about a little less than half of the population of the Philippines. If more people died because of poverty not only in the Philippines, but worldwide then no one would have to try to control population and educate about abortion, which is one of main points of this video isn't it? Philippines is over populated because people aren't aborting their children or using contraceptives and as a result they live in poverty.

[mrandrewdlr]

There was a recent article on Yahoo on how the current U.S. administration cut the funds on abstinence only education and the result just dramatically increased teen pregnancies and abortion procedures in just a year after pushing education based on contraceptives only. Which isn't really at all surprising. The reason Philippines is poor is of the corrupt government not because of their population. Don't make it seem like this is the problem in our society and you're some kind of savior.

[dragonpat666]

@mrandrewdlr their government is catholic so if it is corrupt it is because catholicism is corrupt and the reason why the population is poor, diseased and living in squalid conditions in the first place.

[mrandrewdlr]

@dragonpat666 being a Catholic doesn't mean you suddenly are incapable of sin and become perfect. Nowhere in the Catholic doctrine does it teach it's okay to steal or be corrupt. Otherwise they would not have ousted one of the two most corrupt Presidents in the world. The reason Philippines is poor is because of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos who was the President for 21 years (1965-1986). Before his ruling, Philippines' economy was only second to Japan.

[dragonpat666]

@mrandrewdlr wow!!! you are very delusional concerning the catholic church. the "ousted" a president but refuse to "oust" pedaphile priest. they are really a righterous, religious people...oh, did i also mention that the funded and gave their ok to the atlantic slave trade..one of the worst genocides the world has ever known and so forth...now they are guilty for crimes against women in the philipines...

[mrandrewdlr]

@dragonpat666 Wasn't it in this country that slavery was legal? Where it was illegal to sit in front of the bus if you were black? The Catholic Church has never had a law as such and has only preached love and kindness why should the whole Church be condemned if some priests break the law of the Church. Should the whole United States be condemned if some of it's senators or congressmen break their own law? Of course not. Those individuals are responsible for their own wrong doing not the Church.

[dragonpat666]

@mrandrewdlr you are clueless. it was the catholic church that originally gave its blessing and financial support for the transatlantic slave holocaust!! you cannot compare abortion to slavery and have a rational debate at the same time.

[mrandrewdlr]

@dragonpat666 If you don't want to talk about slavery then don't bring it up. You were the one who brought it up not me. Look back in your older post it's still there. And when did I compare slavery to abortion?

[dragonpat666]

@mrandrewdlr its 12:47 mrandrewdlr, go to sleep.

[dragonpat666]

12:47 am

[xake19]

@mrandrewdlr

It was the Roman Catholic Church who gave their blessing of slavery in the new world (North and South America and the Carribean for centuries). Get your facts straight brainwashed you! This Church has done nothing good and you can't justify popping millions of baby every 9 months and not destroy the environment and resources.

[mrandrewdlr]

@xake19 so kill the babies save the mother earth? That's how you justify this monstrosity? How compassionate.

[mrandrewdlr]

@dragonpat666 being a Catholic doesn't mean you suddenly are incapable of sin and become perfect. Nowhere in the Catholic doctrine does it teach it's okay to steal or be corrupt. Otherwise they would not have ousted one of the two most corrupt Presidents in the world. The reason Philippines is poor is because of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos who was the President for 21 years (1965-1986). Before his ruling, Philippines' economy was only second to Japan.

[racenemo]

@mrandrewdlr

Tell the whole story before Marcos prosperity was due to the US military stationed there spreading their wages on the Philippine girls

[FiIipinoUnggoy]

@mrandrewdlr the real reason why the philippines is poor is not the government being currupt...........its actually the people who is voting these sleezy officials to office

[TheYipedo]

@mrandrewdlr We all know the government is corrupt. You people just love pointing at the government every chance you get. It's not JUST them. We have a host of demographic problems too. How are you going to feed 140 million Filipinos by 2050 when you can BARELY feed 98 million in 2011? Less people means less competition for jobs, and less unemployment, and less poverty, and less crime, etc. It's a domino effect.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo I agree that it’s not JUST the government, but even here in the US and around the world we are seeing a financial collapse and over population is not one of the reasons as you or others have pointed out. The millions of babies killed in the womb of their own mother have no part in what’s happening today, so they shouldn’t have to be sacrificed for the convenience of others.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Philippines wasn’t always a third world country. In fact, our economy was next to Japan’s only about 50 years ago. We were doing really good to say the least. In the 60s a man named Ferdinand Marcos, ranked the 2nd most corrupt leader of all time today, became the tenth president of the Philippines. Just to give you an idea, the peso exchange rate was about 3 pesos per US dollar before he started, by the end of his dictatorship of 20 years a dollar was almost 25 pesos.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo I know how the government runs over there and the many ways Marcos and his cronies were able to corrupt billions of dollars. The corrupt system that Marcos put into place when he was in power never really went away with him when they ousted him in 1983 by the way of the historic People Power or the EDSA Revolution. It stayed. In fact two presidents ago, Erap, was named the tenth most corrupt leader of all time by a similar way Marcos has corrupted the Philippines.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo We have millions of people who can’t afford an education and people who are educated who can’t find jobs and go abroad to do so and send their hard earned money back to their families. We have investors who are turned off because of the corrupt ways of not just the government, but everyone from customs to what would we call in the US as DMV.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo We have millions of tax dollars going into the pockets of corrupt officials instead of it going back to the people and digging the Philippines out of the mess it’s in. The government says, “We have a solution, let’s hand out condoms and make abortion more available, that will solve the problem!” For some reason that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. It only deviates from the real issue that’s happening.

[TheYipedo]

@mrandrewdlr It will not solve every single problem we have, because overpopulation is only one of the problems that we face. What's so wrong about trying to reduce the birth rate especially among poor people who can't even properly support a child, much less 8 children. When the government does nothing, you say they're useless. When they actually TRY to do something, you say they're incompetent. And overpopulation IS a problem. You just ignored what I said earlier: how are you going to feed...

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Yes, population did increase, however my point was that over population has nothing to do with why we are a 3rd world country today. If the government really wants to make a difference they should start at the root of the problem, which is corruption and which is why we are in this mess in the first place. Contraceptives and abortion will not feed the hungry whether 80 million or 140 million from now. If you have an extremely corrupt govt in place then none of that really matters.

[TheYipedo]

@mrandrewdlr ...and educate and give 140 million Filipinos in 2040 a proper job and life? How is this not a problem? People always say that the government should create jobs. Of course they should, but isn't it easier to create jobs for (just an example) 10 000 kids rather than 30 000 kids? You do realize that the Philippines isn't a christian theocracy, right? We're not all Christians, and the church has nothing to do with the state. Why should a specific group FORCE their mentality their...

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Jobs that the government can create are very limited. What they should be really doing is stimulate job growth. Entrepreneurs and investors are the key and the ones responsible for most of the workforce anywhere in the world and if they are turned off and not willing to invest to create more jobs because of the corrupt ways in the Philippines then how are you going to create jobs?

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Abortion is not the same as killing a sperm cell, a red cell, a bacteria cell a tiny rat “cell” or a dog “cell.” Tiny, yes, but totally different components that came from two human parents, which makes a very tiny human being like we all once were that had all the necessary components to grow and develop. It is far more than JUST killing a living thing like some kind of one-cell bacteria.

[TheYipedo]

@mrandrewdlr ...on the whole country? The poor and the young should have the right to sex education and should be provided condoms and a legal abortion if they want to. If you anti-RH people really hate contraceptives, then guess what?! DON'T USE IT. But don't force others who want modern contraceptives to not use it. And the funny thing is that you mentioned the Phil. before the Marcos regime. I am aware that that was the turning point of the Philippines' downward spiral, but you failed to...

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Close to 90 percent of the Philippines is Catholic and they are not forcing anything on anyone. I think it’s the other way around. Why are you forcing Catholics to use their tax money to pay for contraceptives and legal abortions, which is totally against their belief. If you want to use contraceptives, go buy some. If you want to have an abortion don’t do it at their expense and abortion has not been taken out of the RH Bill yet.

[TheYipedo]

@mrandrewdlr ...realize that there were only 27 million Filipinos in 1960. Let me restate that. In 51 years, the Philippines' population ballooned by almost 400% from 27 million to around 100 million. Well no wonder that today's government can barely support the population. The effects of overpopulation are very real. From a disastrous economy (lack of jobs) to increased crime rate (desperate people doing desperate things) to pollution to deforestation, etc. As for abortion, I don't want to...

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Maybe the question that should be asked is why is the President so eager to pass the RH Bill immediately after receiving funds from the U.S.? Was there some kind of earmark attached to the funds he received?

[TheYipedo]

@mrandrewdlr to concentrate too much on it since the RH bill doesn't even legalize abortion. Perhaps Filipinos are still too religious (therefore clouded from reality) to understand it. Most health organizations agree that fetuses begin to feel pain around the 24th week of gestation while 99% of abortion are done BEFORE the 20th week. That makes abortion equal to killing a sperm cell. Yes, you're killing a living thing, but it has no sentience, no memory, no conscience and no feelings to murder.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo There’s already been a study done more than a year ago as I posted in my past comments that abstinence only education works significantly better than sex education. And I think it’s common sense. If you tell kids don’t have sex, but if you were gonna have sex this is the way to do it and have minimal to no consequence then most likely more of them will be inclined to try it earlier in their life. The study has proven this as much and seems to be evident here in the U.S.

[mrandrewdlr]

@TheYipedo Finally, I leave you with this, in his prophetic encyclical against contraception (Humanae Vitae, 1968), Pope Paul predicted that contraceptive use would encourage man to lose respect for woman, considering her "as a mere instrument of selfish enjoyment, and no longer as his respected and beloved companion. Nothing is further from this Truth today.

[MYpineapplejuice]

I don't understand why some Christians are against contraception. The best way to prevent abortion is to stop unwanted pregnancies from happening in the first place - By providing free contraceptives.

[dragonpat666]

this is shame.

[ashatbulaparanormal]

do you really think men are going to just give up sex,your badly mistaken.they'll rape if they have too just to satisfied their own pleasure

[ashatbulaparanormal]

Gee,look what we have to look forward too in our own country.Look Pro-life,this is what your going to put this country into

[Upgrade117]

isn't it their fault for having sex too much? no disrespect...

[xake19]

Here is the problem. It's not their fault, but the FAT Cardinals and Bishops prevents the people form buying condoms or obtaining condoms. The FAT Cardinals prevent birth control pills from being purchased. The FAT Cardinals want the population to explode so that they maintain their grip on an overpopulated nation thus securing their future for the next millenia.

It is a fact that in developed countries these FAT cardinals have become THIN and lost power.

[racenemo]

@Upgrade117

This ain't about sex, it about the lack of condoms

We should be condemning churches for not approving contaception

[sashmiller93]

@Upgrade117 I know I'm responding to a comment from 1 year ago but I feel I should address this due to the amount of people thumbing it up. We have to get into the story more. Women especially in poorer areas don't necessarily want more kids, they just don't know how to prevent pregnancy. Telling them to stop having sex is like telling u to stop breathing, OK? Remember, these people are highly uneducated. If it's anyone's fault it's the government's and catholic church in the country.

[elenavlada]

@Upgrade117 this comment was obviously done with a 20yr old... sex is a very important bond between a married couple, its not about cancelling sex FOREVER, IT ABOUT THE GOVERMENT AND THE CATHOLIC CHUCRH PROVIDE AND ALLOW THE USE OF CONTRACEPTIVES

[TheYipedo]

@Upgrade117 Oh, yes, because it's SOOO easy not to have sex when you're at home with your spouse after months of abstinence. We are biologically inclined to have the urge to have sex. You can't blame them. Sex is part of our lives. Stop guilting them for doing something irresistible and natural; instead, try to help them find ways to solve their problems.

[kanfil54]

the pope has alot to answer for.