Jerry Brudos - Serial Killer - Part 1 of 5

[MissLeigh78]

What's wrong with wanting a girl? Jeez louise.

[LolumbineMassacre]

@mahikibeach

I was talking about consensual sadomasochism between a sadist and a masochist.

[LolumbineMassacre]

@Bfdidc

There is nothing wrong with being sadistic.

[mahikibeach]

@LolumbineMassacre Good to hear, my two tiny caucasian bearkiller doggies need something to play with. Wanna come by someday?

[kphzorz]

man, what a fucking jerk this guy is

[Bfdidc]

@kphzorz Yeah, there are even a few serial killers for whom I have a modicum of empathy, but Brudos is just a pathetic, sadistic little wretch.

[dirtybunny987]

Lol at the beginning

"for mature audiences 15 years and older?

Since when are 15 year olds mature? not even 18 year olds lol

[MediaDudes232]

@dirtybunny987 They're old enough to not be scared by something like this.

[dirtybunny987]

@MediaDudes232 I know that. so?

I just never heard the world "mature" and "15 year olds" before in the same sentence.

[z1r1ki]

@dirtybunny987 lolZ

[UniversalRee]

We just moved to Corvallis. Keeping my boots to myself.

[judy4justice]

This one is too boring to watch.

[DarknessUnresolved]

Hell yeah, Portland REPRESENT!

[13thmistral]

someone realy shoud make movies of serial killers that last 45 - 90minutes and then make some sort of serie about it

the acting for me shoud not be top notch, but belevable

the most important woud be not to much hollywoodabuse/blood/grimmshit

something realistic, not realy intertaining

[caseyface3]

@13thmistral yeah...something not really "intertaining"....just what people want...

[13thmistral]

@caseyface3 you know what i mean if you watch normal horror movies

they all go to dramatic into the how they became monster shit and to much bloodshit

if its posible about some, i want also realy see emotions besides anger and bloodthirst

i want something that people realy can form an opinion about

not that shit like: 'yes he was abused so its understandable'

more complex, realistic and beleavable, where people start to doubt about evil and right

[13thmistral]

@caseyface3 ps: there are some exeptions though

dennis rader, i dont think you can realy say he is such a verry complex person

[cartoonman4427]

its always ugly people that kill

[yolonda32]

WHEN WILL ANYONE POST ABOUT THE VICTIMS..BOO WHOO HE HAD A BAD MOM CRY ME A RIVER SO ITS OK TO TAKE SOMEONE ELSES HE WAS WEAK...PERIOD

[yolonda32]

wHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ITS WRONG, TAKE THIS SHIT DOWN PLEASE...IF YOU ARE HUMAN

[LegionLives]

@yolonda32 So you'd rather pretend it never happened? Shuffle it off and forget?

[yolonda32]

@LegionLives , WHEN THEY KILL YOUR MOM GET BACK AT ME SON..hOW WAS YOUR  CHRISTMAS!!!!

[LegionLives]

@yolonda32 So... what you're saying is... you're a Holocaust denier? You don't think it happened?

[cobias]

why do they talk to Lars Larson ? That guy is a moron !

[dirtybunny987]

What the person below me said is the said truth.

No serial killer truly deserves our punishment. If there is a God , God will take care of it.

Because like he said, no child is born evil, society makes them evil as they grow up so in a way you can just as easily blame society for the birth of serial killers and in the end society are the ones that lock em up and take their life

[jonescomplete]

@dirtybunny987 cause soceity teaches children to manipulate, lie, and act greedily? uh, human nature is screwed up from the get go.. I agree with the abolishment of the death penalty, but not reductionism of psychological instinct. environment is not the sole determiner of action or personality..

[dirtybunny987]

@jonescomplete

Youre putting words in my mouth.

I never said society "teaches children to manipulate, lie and act greedily"

Althought that IS true in some cities.

I also never said that "environment is the sole determiner of action or personality"

but it IS part of the problem.



[jonescomplete]

@dirtybunny987 I didn’t say you did, I’m just assuming the above is evil.

And that is true everywhere. Children figure out how to deceive their parents before they can talk. Its cute at that faze, but it is what it is

I agree that it is part of the problem (I dun some sociology who hoo hooO!). If it were really the larger contributor (vs. human nature) in this situation (crazy kiddos) then it seems there would be a LOT more serial killers... but they are an anomaly... thank God!

[dirtybunny987]

@jonescomplete

OMG You are so right about what you said here

"I agree that it is part of the problem (I dun some sociology who hoo hooO!). If it were really the larger contributor (vs. human nature) in this situation (crazy kiddos) then it seems there would be a LOT more serial killers... but they are an anomaly... thank God!"

I shall rethink this later tonight at bed time :)

[jonescomplete]

@dirtybunny987 And please excuse me for putting words in your mouth. I was only attempting to pot ray the concept. As you probably have gathered by now, I am.. uh.. JUST A LITTLE impulsive ;D

[SuperTuller]

You can say a lot about these evil people and the things they do... they should be put away forever with the keyes thrown away.... but in the same line I think it's kind of tragic because no child is born evil.... There is no bad children only very bad parents...and that's why I think theres always a sad and brutal history to follow those people....

[jonescomplete]

@SuperTuller then every good child that comes from a horrible home is... what?

[trigger575707]

LMAO "freckled face kid"

[AmandaRules4ever]

his mother was a total abusive bitch....SHE made him become a killer...she should be JAILED too for hurting her son!

[BeyondTheTreeline]

I thought the worst thing about Portland was the moustaches, skinny jeans, and fixed-wheel bike fags. I guess I was wrong. It's still full of pretentious dicks though...

[painzlife]

bill kurtis is narrating heree :)

[TheAGLIGO]

yes that is the real Brudos laughing at the begining...n yes it is creepy :)

[TheAGLIGO]

yes that is the real Brudos laughing at the begining...n yes it is creepy :)

[metallegion501]

at 0:50 is that jerry brudos himself laughing? if so creepy!

[DarknessUnresolved]

Nice PORTLAND represent!

[ad8369]

he is really ugly

[johneamer]

You have a great library here thanks for the uploads. 

[fotoxia]

Honestly, his mother burned the shoes he found, and that was the turning point? Do these psychologists have degrees? Killers are born killers. Period.

[then33k4]

@fotoxia

I assume you have a M.D. to make such qualified generalisations ?

[fotoxia]

@then33k4 There is a difference between killing someone and feeling remorse about it for the rest of your life, and keep on killing without any emotional feelings whatsoever. I was raised by a ruthless stepfather. I was bullied at school and so on. Did I lose control of my life and started killing? Instead I set my mind on becoming somebody, having a family of my own and offer my children the life I never had. Serials killers are born with the desire to kill. Has nothing to do with upbringing.

[fotoxia]

And as a matter of fact I did psychology as a major. The human mind is so complex to study and understand, that most successful studies are done on animal behaviour. There is nothing in the world that will make you cut off a woman's foot, put it in high heels and masturbate on it. A disturbed mind is a birth genetic, and can only be controlled with drugs, but only to a certain point.

[Spud13ify]

@fotoxia I agree in part. Serial killers have a disturbed mind from birth and it seems many times it doesn't get diagnosed because they're so good at that "mask of sanity." But born with the desire to kill? Please. That's cultivated and YES more than half of the time that lethal cocktail is mixed with an emotional and or physical parental abuse. Of course it's not a constant like Brudos or Dahmer so that would be an indication of extreme mental imbalance but it happens. Killers are not born.

[fotoxia]

@Spud13ify I disagree. We are all killers. We are all born with the instinct to kill. Just like any other species out there. Some control it, others can't.

[Spud13ify]

@fotoxia Of course we are. You're stating the obvious. We're talking about the urge to kill. Being born with a mental illness that makes a person verbally or physically harm someone is one thing, but repeatedly kill and continue this cycle over years indicates other factors that have futher warped and twisted this person. Something involving other people that usually strips these psycopaths of their feelings of empowerment. That seems to be a common theme.

[fotoxia]

@Spud13ify Well I am no expert, I have no idea what drives them to do the sick shit they do, but when psychologists blame their childhood upbringing, it's total bullshit. Something else drives them. Something that we will never grasp to understand. I had a bad childhood, was bullied, beaten, step father called me every name in the book, you name it. But instead of killing and eating my neighbours, I decided to show everyone how wrong they were about me.

[HumanoidSparky]

@fotoxia I'm not saying that every with a messed up childhood will eventually grow into a sicko or serial killer. But I think you'll find that in aproximatly 80% of cases, multiple and mass murderers have some sort of deep seeded problem relating to their childhood. On the case of Nature vs. Nurture, I chose nurture!

So, in shortm I agree with you completly. :D

[Grizzly0679]

@fotoxia It's psychology. It would take a while to explain the process but you have understand what motivates rape of murder and usually that motivation is control. See these people feel very weak in life because of the abuse; they feel they have no power so they wish to regain power in the only way they know how and that is to dominate another individual. Somewhere along the way sex and violence get fused. I'm not saying it's the cause but often violent pornography fuels an already emerging...

[Grizzly0679]

@fotoxia ...fantasy life. I think you're looking at bad childhoods like it's an excuse, but it's not. It won't make much of a difference in court, but it does offer a REASON for their behavior. You simply cannot discount miserable childhoods because they are virtually a prerequisite for extremely deviant behavior. Genetic, or as mentioned "nature" factors, can also play a role...

[Grizzly0679]

@fotoxia ...Psychology is not black and white. It's very complex because of so many variables. I've heard physicists say they have an easier job. Find me one person in prison for an extremely violent crime that didn't have some aspect of a disturbing childhood. You're not going to find it. That's called a common denominator and it cannot be ignored.

[HumanoidSparky]

@Spud13ify I'm inclinced to agree with you, Spud13ify. If you look more detailed into Jerry Brudos, you'll find that his mother resented him for being born a male, and dressed him up in girls clothes and often treated him with deep disdain and hate. Seems like it may have had a major impact on his outcome. I'm not sure any logical person could disagree.

[HumanoidSparky]

@fotoxia I find it hard to believe that you majored in psychology and are so way off track. A bluff, perhaps? Surely you realise that in the instance of Nature vs. Nurture animal studies have concluded that nurture plays the biggest role. Take Hans' tigers, for example. And, if you look at Brudo's history, his mother dressed him in girls clothes as a child and beat him very severly (she wanted a girl, he was a disapointment)

[HumanoidSparky]

@fotoxia I agree that a great deal of mental disorders are there from birth. A great deal are not. There are countless examples to back up my case, such as Ed Gein or Sybil Mason. In the case of Nature vs. Nurture, it's difficult to conclude which is more vital. After years of study, two degree's and personal evidence, i've found that nurture is most effective, and that you havn't a leg to stand on.

[flameisbrighter]

@HumanoidSparky I think framing it in terms of "versus" is specious. I would venture that both upbringing and organic factors can play large roles in framing the type of person one becomes, and that saying one is "most effective" is a rather facetious claim. Different brains can have varying responses to similar stimuli--many children are abused but don't become abusers; most mentally ill people aren't violent. Similarly, some people with ordinary childhoods or "normal" brains become killers.

[HumanoidSparky]

@flameisbrighter Hm, not completly sure you read all of my several hundred comments. I made it extremely clear that no one factor is responsible for creating serial killers, but a combonation of both nature AND nurture. I also made it clear that not all serial killers had turbulant childhoods, and not all people with turbulant childhoods become psychotic. As for your offence to my terming of "nature VS nurture", i'm pretty sure it's an official synopsis, and phrased often. You should google it.

[Grizzly0679]

@HumanoidSparky I'm curious if you can provide an example of a serial killer that didn't have a turbulent childhood/teenagehood, be it abandonment, abuse or whatever. I have yet to see it. Virtually every killer I have looked at has had some indication of an environmental factor that is at least partially responsible for their outlook on life.

[HumanoidSparky]

@Grizzly0679 That's actually exactly my point. I'm one of those weirdo's who obsess over murderers and psychopaths. Can't udnerstand why it fascinates me, but it does. Anyway, in my research i've found that most serial killers have had abusive childhoods, however there are the small few who havn't (such as Jeffrey Dahmer).Saying all serial killers had abusive upbringings on youtube would be too bold a statement, but I think i've made it clear that few are born psychopaths, most are made.

[TomDavid88]

@HumanoidSparky It fascinates anyone who sees a part of themselves in these wicked and deranged men. Look at Howard Stern's fascination with chopping women's heads off.

Tom David

Minneapolis

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 If you're going to go by that logic, than I suppose you believe that all psychologists are mental, or all doctors have some sort of life changing disease. I suppose I see your point, though. There's got to be something twisted about a mind who doesn't shudder away from this kind of stuff. I guess everyone watching this is sick. Then again, it's fiction complex. The hardcore gore films today have disensitised us.

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 On the other hand, in couldbe contrary to your theory. People who see themsleves in these "wicked and deranged men" would quickly turn away and try to deny it. Why would anyone who see's themself in these men want to feed that fire? We're most fascinated with what we don't understand.. most of the time.

[TomDavid88]

@HumanoidSparky People look at these videos with the very same fascination they do when looking at a body at the scene of an accident. You realize that that could very well be you laying there.

Tom David

Minneapolis

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 Does that cross your mind? Funny, i've never thought that do myself when lookign at a corpse. i'm not sure I know anyone who does think that way. Then again, it doesn't usually come up in conversation very often.

[TomDavid88]

@HumanoidSparky ALL humans, with consciously or unconsciously, are VERY aware of their own mortality.

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 You stuck the "unconsciously" part in there so that I couldn't deny. It won't work. Ofcourse we're all aware of our own mortality. We're pretty sure, by this stage, that we are not imortal. However, i've never look at a corpse at the scene of a crime and wondered if it could have been me. I can say that honestly. And personally, I don't care. I'm afraid of my loved ones dying, but I couldn't give a shit about myself dying. I won't be here cleaning up the mess when I go, why care?

[TomDavid88]

@HumanoidSparky Now THAT'S not normal! You are so fucking out of your mind depressed that you are saying, "What is death, anyway?" Maybe that's why you are watching these videos! He, he, he!

Tom David

Minneapolis

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 Did I, at any point, imply that I am unsure what death is? No. I am quiet certain I know the meaning of the definition. I just don't feel i'm in great danger of dying any time soon. I think any 20 year old who DID fear death would be messed up. It seems to me that you're the depressive who's a little detached from the meaing of life and death. And don't be so quick to judge, Tom David from Minneapolis. I was actually beginning to like you and our little chats.

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 I know people like you. You like to have humanity in black and white. All or none. It's a very easy way of doing things. However, I don't think you can use such a blase' and detached method when talking about such matter as mortality.

[HumanoidSparky]

@TomDavid88 I've seen few corpses in my life. But the ones I have seen I do not look at with empathy. I'm sympathetic, no doubt, but I never wonder if that could've been me. Instead I look at their faces, and try to see what was gong through their heads before they died. I try to see the person they were before, and wonder why they look so deflated and hollow compared to before.

[reuscmar]

The incredible thing is, they had him. If they'd presented the evidence to a profiler back then, he could have told them that this one was very likely to become a serial killer. They could have institutionalised him and maybe prevent what happened after during the following years.

[cm5783]

So, because his mother is gay-hating and a bitch, he became a violent murdering nutter.

Sure.

[SBSXY177]

HOW DOES 1 BECOME A SERIAL KILLER? IS IT A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE?

[JSasRays]

@SBSXY177 No, its by being a sick fucking freak, who conscience. basically these things arent human. a human has some sort of compassion for its species.

[Revilex100]

@JSasRays Scientifically, you're wrong. It is a chemical imbalance

[Spud13ify]

@SBSXY177 I think it is in part. Bundy turns out was bipolar. Mostly though in every case there is physical or emotional trauma or both at a early age and that supresses the normal development of a conscience and maturity. For some reason these people blend violence with sexual and or emotional gratification and it makes them feel empowered. It's all about a power-trip with them because they feel so inadequate inside.

[MrAtheism33]

@SBSXY177

There's no one known reason. It's typically due to several factors.

[Digibullet32]

@SBSXY177 it is psycological.......where i find fun in getting a blow job or playing video games, smoking weed or just eating a nice turkey dinner with family and friends... well this guy enjoys mutilation... and well i dont like what he likes so i might try it out to make sure but it would only be on him if i ever fuckin saw the guy... red hot pokers ide hold an inch from his eyes so they just fuckin dry out...LOVE LIFE BY TORTURING THESE F@CKIN WIERDOS!!..hate everywhere that just jails them..

[reuscmar]

@SBSXY177 It's a combination of many things, but there's definitely a predisposition there. Not anyone who has been abused or didn't have a steady childhood turns out a killer. On the other hand, there are killers that had normal happy childhoods like Jeffrey Dahmer. So it's really about what goes on in their head, the fantasies they have and act on. And it's certainly different from one case to the other. Everyone of them has his own reason to kill.