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  • Thanks for Sharing! Please also visit my channel for more inspiring videos!

  • @tristanandrobin ok then, tell me the names of these websites where i can find conclusive, non biased evidence, compiled by reliable non-extreeme scientist, that can 'contradict EVERYTHING being shoved down our throats, by al gore'

  • WHY you can't be that one person?

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  • heres a better title for the video, "The Effects of The Human Race"

  • 1928 to tonow photo where everything is melted - Its called winter and summer it happens every year. By the way, polar bears are great swimmers and there popultion are higher today than 20 years ago. Global Warming is a fraud!!!

  • i guess we should kill all the plants and animals as they produce about 150 gigatons of co2 each year! volcanoes actually produce more co2 than all of the planes factories cars ect ect, so should we try to destroy the volcanoes too?

  • polar bears survived the last global warming and temperatures got hotter than they are today. do research, global warming is a scam

  • uber gay. if you want to worry about something worry about deforestation and the raping of our oceans.

  • More oil trolls lies being posted I see, don't anyone believe them

  • No such thing as global warming. End of story.

  • @leebog31 You mean man made global warming right? Seeing as how the Earth's temp has been much hotter than it is today as well as much colder. The Earth has alway been cooling or heating up.

  • utter crap

  • i thank u to encouraging people to save animals and stop global warming

  • I love the Earth, I love animals, but this topic is too stupid to argue.

  • You know, the solution is in advocating unlimited solar arrays and batteries made by MACHINE mass production.. (for the really cheap since machines don't require pay or sleep)...

  • Nice sound track... perhaps?

  • Thank you!

    Why would anybody want to continue to pollute the very air we depend on...

    With subsequent scientific adverse conditions beyond ( as science reveals) simply "air" ?

  • Try my channel for 2011 real climate science conference,It's called 6th International conference on climate change held in The US.Scroll down the uploads column,they are in no particular order however the Q&A videos should be watched after the others and do read my description of the video.Enjoy

  • if you think global warming is causing the ice to melt you need to ask youre self one question...why is the arctic melting and antarctica isnt?

  • Man made global warming is not happening and never has happened. The Sun caused past global warming and is now about to cause abrupt and longterm global cooling.

  • 1.Weather is far to complex, thus impossible for us to make long term predictions.(even the short term predictions are often wrong)

    2.Even if we are causing the global warming, why spend millions to prevent it? we could spend those money to be prepared for it because we now change will come even if we do nothing wrong - it seems more reasonable to me.

    3.If it will happen, i can`t agree with IPCC on the consequences. they are simply beyond logic and come in contradiction with nr.1

  • @andreiuta171 Didn't yo momma teach you the difference between to and too

    If you are so uneducated - why should we listen to your opinion?

    You must be a Fox News viewer

  • @Perfectchi And you must be a "SAVE THE WORLD MAN!" for insulting other's opinion . I hate thos kind of people , who doesn't accept the fact that some people thinks differently than them .

  • @Perfectchi yeah, well, not everybody in this world is born in a english speaking country. and some grammar mistakes should not stop you to think about the logic of the opinion. and about the education... i speak your language, my language and other 3. how about you?

  • I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire YEARS on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year, think about it.

  • No denying AGW is NOT lazy and wrong. Believing it is. The AGW myth is evil to the core. The banksters who run governments want to create fear to retain their control & direct ever more wealth in their direction. It's only corrupted and brainwashed members of the IPPC who are all ultimately paid by the banks ie Rothschilds being the biggest who spout the propaganda to enhance their power over us & monopolise their wealth. Thousands of scientists who are against the myth never become recognised.

  • Global Warming Effects: It Can Rise The Waters In The Ocean By 2% Causing Lands' to be flooded. The Polar Bears, Penguins and other animals that live in the north and south poles will be extincted. How it can happen: Riding a car can cause pollution in the atmosphere making the ice from the two poles melt. A hole in the atmosphere (which keeps us safe from the sun's UV rays) would case heat to rise in the season. and melt the ice putting 2% more water in the oceans'

  • can you give me the link to the music in this video please?

  • @SupportAz what you have just said is stupid. yes the animals did adapt for changes in conditions, but thay adapted over hundreds of thousands of years for very very gradual changes in temperature. temperature change is happening much faster now, so there is not time for adaptation, insted only extinction

  • @andygd8 Bullshit....There has been times of rapid change in the past...Check out the ice core samples over the last hundreds of thousands of years...It shows some fasinating info...Co2 levels seem to rise just before and during the beginning of ice ages...Sun spot activity seems to go hand in hand with the co2 changes...One thing that does bother me, the ice core samples over the last 100 years show lots of CFC's...This is man made...Co2 is more natural...

  • @andygd8 then you clearly havent done any research on the other side of the debate. i have done both, i used to believe in man made global warming, now i know the truth :)

  • @n5ifi we know it is more valid today because we have a built up knowledge of 30 years of study on the subject, which has lead to almost completely mutual scientific agreement that man made global warming is happening.

  • @andygd8 Remember the Ice Age, wasn't that great? How did the Earth warm up then? Was it from people driving Hummers? Approximately every 100,000 years Earth's climate warms up temporarily. These warm periods, last approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years before regressing back to a cold ice age climate.

  • @andygd8 thats a huge fucking lie!! watch this The Great Global Warming Swindle (Full Movie). it is not nearly mutually agreed apon, not even close, there are over 30 000 scientists doing a movement against the fals facts of global warming!

  • @andygd8 you're a fucking idiot, you know that right? if you stopped listening to only the greanpeace bullshit then you might have a clue what you were talking about. there is an enormous amount of information that contradicts EVERYTHING being shoved down our throats by idiots like al gore and pretty much every politician. get informed or go fuck your self.

  • @tristanandrobin If you stopped listening only to what anarch-capitalist think tanks and the fossil fuel company bullshit you might find out that there is nothing that creates any doubt about AGW, It's time to stop letting idiots like Jim Inhofe and all the bought off politicians shove their debunked propaganda down our throats. Get informed or go fuck yourself.

  • the suns getting hotter and hotter every second of every day not in our life time but eventually is will become so hot that it melts the very crust of the earth if humans won't be around when this happens the reason being we would have died out when ll the water on earth is evaporated either that or we find a new planet

    and in fact in 2050 if the world is like what these idiots are saying it will be like then i will sign everything i own over to them

  • @birdfly43 Umm, no. That isn't what will happen. The sun does not get hotter, it stays generally the same temperature. BUT when the sun uses all of it's Hydrogen fuel, it will start to grow, it will completely consume most of the inner Solar System. Then it will collapse back in on its self, and the force of this will cause the sun so start to fuse Helium.

  • The planet was once much warmer than the global warming scare tactics crowd is saying that it will get. You have to ask yourself, how did polar bears survive that??? They adapted. We're headed into another ice age anyway, so it doesn't matter. Watch "Climate Change - Is CO2 the cause? - Pt 1 of 4" for the truth.

  • IF you love the Planet so much, then maybe you should learn a little more about It's past climate, which was much WARMER than today - with LESS CO2. >>>>>>>>>>> Google - SCIENCE-SKEPTICAL MWP . (hit the first link).

  • 'used' ball I meant!!!! sorry, ha ha. LET'S ALL MAKE MUCH SMALLER OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT!!!!!!!!!! EASY TO FIGURE OUT- WE'RE MAKING CHINA RICH, THEY HAVE GAZILLIONS OF PEOPLE, HALF OF WHICH WILL BE BUYING CARS IN THE FUTURE!! THERE GOES THE BREATHABLE AIR, WITH A ADDED-CAR-DRIVING POPULATION MANY TIMES BIGGER THAN THE U.S.! WE HAVE TGO DO SOMETHING! HOORAY FOR CRAZYCHAOS3 AND ALL POSTING WARNINGS, LET'S NOW DO IT THROUGH THE VOTING BOX, TELL YOUR REPS WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @fuhmeregan do you drive?

  • DON'T buy Chinese new junk - fix what you have - or buy it used! your kids need a ball, tell your friends why they ended-up with a new one - let's stop being stupid! If we change how we live, pressure our lawmakers to make large vehicle engines illegal 'or' have a $300,000 carbon certificated that must be bought to drive one - HUGE muscle cars and SUV's won't be so popular THEN!! wink - you'll look like a grotesque polluter PIG, driving one around! Make the canadian tar sands an illegal!!!

  • now i really know theres other people that caree thanks for the video!! i'm 14 and i'm greener than the grass!!

  • aww poor polor bears :(

  • Good video. Climate denial is a great way to continue destroying the world.

    We'd better be ready for the change. It's coming.

  • This video is awesome! And i would like to use it for a project i am doing, i will site everything, but I kinda need you to take out the boxes in the video!! if that is possible PLEASE TELL ME!!! THANK YOU!!!

  • @MadkittenzK Yes, of course! You can use this video! You can remove those annotation boxes by yourself, the button is on the very bottom right of the video! C:

  • Vikings had farms on greenland , its now under meters of ice . = Used to be hotter than now , and the vikings did nt have cars , factorys ect . Its called nature, it gets hot its gets cold . simple stuff for those that can think . Its a scam , but for those hard at thinking ill say it again , scam . Geez people are stupid

  • @ozzycriss This is true, but for some reason alarmists and climate scientists blow this fact off, if greenland was farmed and now it is ice, how can this be global warming? Yet people believe this bull.

  • CO2 still increasing.... globe cooling for the last ten years. Ice caps now at highest extent in the last decade.... It looks like all those ice core samples which consistently show that throughout ALL of earth's history, changes in CO2 concentration FOLLOW temperature changes are still correct! Viva science! (REAL science, that is, not the media and politics driven climate pseudo-science we've all been subjected to lately.)

  • Dissolved CO2 makes acid.

    By 2100, at current rates of increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide, average ocean pH will drop 0.3 - 0.4 and be @ 7.8 with an increase in acidic H+ ion concentration of 150-200%.

    That will cause a 50% DECREASE of ocean carbonate ions (CO3).

    Carbonate ions are needed for growth by plankton & corals at the base of the ocean's food chain.

    Oops!!!

    For info. on CO2 ocean acidification check:

    Dr. Richard Feely, NOAA

    Ocean Acidification Part 1 of 3

    /watch?v=0KgRpJxWQDw&NR=1

  • Everyone that thinks that Global Warming is real is an idiot. They're all a bunch of government following sheeple who need to get a mind of their own and actually think for themselves. If any random person told you that the world was going to end in 30 seconds, would you believe them? Probably not. If the President told you that same thing, you would probably believe him wouldn't you. That's the difference. Regular people have no voice anymore versus the government. It's a bunch of communism.

  • You're right, Dummy! All the temperature figures are faked, and the WeatherChannel, NASA, NOAA, MIT, Univ.of California, Harvard, Cambridge, the American Geophysical Union, The Royal Society, Union of Concerned Scientists are all part of the conspiracy.

    Except no one told the disappearing arctic ice, melting mountain glaciers, early springs, and the plants, animals, and insects all migrating north.

    LOL!!

    See the WeatherChannel YouTube:

    Global Warming - Cool Summer WHY??

    /watch?v=sX6jEsnGcrA

  • Nightverssion, aka Spitfire, why are you deliberately trying to pretend to be Nightversionn???

    YOU are proving what a PATHETIC LIAR & FRAUD you are.

    Deniers trying to masquerade as "Nightversionn"

    Do you know how silly and desperate that makes you look??

    Shows how ridiculous & empty your specious denier rants really are.

  • If its hot that proves it, if its cold that proves it. The debate is over. Has anyone stopped to consider the effect of global taxes? It will cause your bank acount to burst into flames and go bye bye. Warts the size of a baseball will grow on your private parts. Birds will fall from the sky. Rats will learn to talk and take over the world. Maybe I should make a movie about it and let everyone know. I can prove all of those things as good as Al Gore did in his movie.

  • The ice is growing at an alarming rate we are heading into a new ice age. The oceans will freeze all the crops will die and there will be mass sarvation and death. See how easy it is to just make stuff up? Some evidence would be nice if you don't mind taking a break from saving the world from us evil human's for a moment. Some real evidence not the doctored up crap we have been spoon fed the last ten years. Because Im getting kind of tired digging out my car from all that warming.

  • @UtherPendragan Your comment is PURE GOLD! Ha ha, I believe you, and we'd better call up the President so he can create a bill to solve the cooling problem! Thank-you for using common sense!

  • This just in....

    Al Gore is the coolest nerd in the world.

    Donald Trump is mad so he said Gore should have his Nobel taken from him. Then he said the Chinese think American politicians are the dumbest people in the world because he is a rasist!

    Denialist Trump? = Rasist.

  • bullshit

    its true temprature is going up but not from us

    any way temp now is lower then avarige

    its all political

  • 9 of last 10 years were the HOTTEST on record. 2009 = 2nd HOTTEST on record Solar irradiance is at 35 year low Search: Data @ NASA GISS: Surface Temperature Analysis: Graphs & NASA GISS Do Variations in the Solar Cycle Latest on YouTube: It's so Cold, there can't be Global Warming /watch?v=sAvqabAPIr4&feature=s­ub 50% of arctic sea ice & mountain glaciers have disappeared in just 30 years. Plants, animals & insects are all migrating north. Search: Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth
  • What a joke. LOL...

  • So you think its right for the farmers to use pestacides and pollute my well so id have to pay the water man for the city water? i think not i fight for what i think is right

  • Global warming is a ruse to get everyone on board for the "One World Government" Oh yeah, it's coming! It's funny how the greenies hate and despise America, but nobody wants to admit that if there ever was global warming it is Jamaica's fault.

  • Its never been about "saving the planet" and its not about clean air or water, it IS about control. Control of how you live your life, the food you eat, the number of kids you can have, the house you can live in and the job that you can have. I heard ALL these same arguments when the eco nuts were saying global cooling back in the 70s. They will manufacture ANY crisis to advance their agenda. We can run your life better and more efficiently than you so shut-up and do and we say not as we do

  • Global Warming is a fraud. If its real how does not addressing the #1 factor for environmental degradation, wildlife declines, & GHG production could work?

    Unless their magical cure is the Continuum Transfunctioner, Al Gore reinvents himself as Zoltan, and his GW cult robot followers are going to start wearing packaging bubblewrap jumpsuits.

    That would be entertaining.

    Zoltan!

  • GW deniers are far worse than those who think 911 was a hoaxed hologram. At least we CAN do something about GW, whereas theories about the past such as 911 cannot do too much to help us.

  • a pictures worth a thousand words..

    why tryin to explain the effects of something..using words... stats.. reports..?

    haha

    your as bad as the newspaper.

    effects of global warming of sad kittens?

  • I am actually a part of the stop the global warming organization here in Washington state. This video will let others know what is really going on...thanks to you! keep up the good work, god bless!

  • COCA-COLA IS THE ONE TO BLAME !!!

    They put far too much CO2 in them softdrinks !!! Making you burb and fart a lot...

  • i subscribed to you because you love our planet. Thank you. :D

  • Aww thank you! : D And thank you for loving this planet too! ^_^

  • Global warming is the biggest hoax of our time.

  • Climate change is a naturally occuring event. Just watch your local weather report. Global warming was changed to "climate change" to make it more "marketable". It's bad science agenda driven to control people through "FEAR" the oldest tool in social behavior modification. Goebbels would be proud. A common threat under whose auspices people will be forced / coerced to abide by govt dictate and control (fascism).  Brainwashing and indoctrination rule via mass media BS. Critical thinking drowns.

  • Global warming is a hoax. Isn't that right, Al Gore?

  • why are we even debating this i thought climate gate nailed the last few nails in the coffin with the hacked info. look people global warming is a hoax....I'm not getting it, is being retarded like a new trend?

  • amen

  • You spelled it wrong.

    It's Gorebal Warming

  • Global warming is an inside job. Tell everyone you know.

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  • i saw the same picture in 00:33 i saw it in a book called "global warning"

  • Global warming is bullshit. Al Gore is getting rich off this lie. Obama's Cap and Tax policy is exploiting these good natured (prius driving hippies) people with the purpose of ruining this great nation and punishing us for being a world leader.

  • global warming is bullshit? you have to be the most ignorant person, and your obviously not smart and not educated and have no knowledg whatsoever. global warming is real. and its because of people like you that this is happening and our children wont have a life ahead.

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  • Whats the name of the song?

  • It's not about the stars. This is important , if important is to have a better life style, how many plastic bottles, plastic bags did we drop per year, how much garbage. we love electronics, inevitable. we call comfort a life of shoppin consuming and being rich, we call the poor stupid 'n ignorant 'n it is true, because the way the systems grew up we absolutes. we are no educated to understand deeply the real problem, i see on the streets every moment. people, but i doubt they catch upthepoint.

  • hey, whats the title of this song?

  • Thanks, nice to know everyone isn't dumb

  • Now that the Earth has been found to be cooling not warming will this rubbish be removed. You have all been taken in by an extremely effective fraud. 36000 scientists have signed a petition against this attempt to tax everyone on the planet. Gore Obama and their cohorts will make billions by trading carbon credits. If your government was serious about CO2 they would have changed all light bulbs to LEDs and cut by one fifth the electricity requirements.

  • shut the fuck up you dumb cunt........ You have no idea

  • I don't claim to know what I do know is that 36000 scientists 9000 with PHD's have called man made global warming a hoax, ignorant people have watched a film by a total conman Sir Al who is to make billions along with his friends Barack Hussein Obama and Dick Cheney by selling this fraud to the uneducated world. In the 70's it was Global cooling and there would be an ice age by the late 90's. Name calling just shows you have no argument or viable information if so please supply.

  • If you watch the featured video in my channel (by clickong on my username), you will find the truth on global warming. It is shocking.

  • Polar bears aren't dying off at all, they live in the water as much as on land. That's why they're known as semi-aquatic and can swim hundreds of miles.

    I hate this video, it's all lies.

  • no they are not....they can swim all the time. eat while swimming, sleep while swimming, reproduce while swimming. So what is all this fuck about anyways? total bs!

    Global warming is a fact. Temperatures increased by nearly 1K within one century - a unique development in the history of earth (with all it's consequnces). But who cares if the ice melts and wider range of land is flooded. And wtf about ice bears? Let just everyone move to the next hill and take the ice bears with us.

  • what is the music?

  • I'm sorry for the late response, but the music is titled "Ancient Rhythms" from the CD, "Music of the World"

  • You are seriously a stupid fuck! You can't even spell correctly now you want us to take your dumb ass opinion into consideration. How do you explain the FACT that the ice is melting!!! the land mass is disappearing! Get a clue. Ps. your = it is yours belonging to you, You're = you are, as in you are an idiot!!!

  • yeah....just so you know, the icecaps are acctually growing

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  • Global warming is a fact! You people are ignorant and probably have a bit of brain damage. Let me guess, the earth according to you is flat as well? It's because of people like you that we are in this horrible situation, if everyone stood together the earth would be a better place! I hope you don't have children, the last thing we need is another ignorant bastard! (This comment is especially for you Brammy007)

  • Your the ignorant one. I bet those polar bear pictures really made u feel bad, made u believe that global warming is real. If the temperature on earth is getting warmer, it's not because of CO2 emissions.. If you aren't ignorant you'll watch videos proving that global warming is a hoax k? your already on youtube, just type it in. Scientists, REAL SCIENTISTS, not fucking AL GORE(god of propoganda,) will tell u its a lie.

  • "It's because of people like you that we are in this horrible situation" - That might the most ignorant thing I've ever heard anyone say, ever. Your comment is just more typical "you're either with us or against us" bullshit. It's because of people like you that Hitler got into power. So who's fault was it for the last Ice Age thousands of years ago? Wooly Mammoth's methane? Or maybe the Earth goes through climate cycles that no one can alter one way or the other, it is possible you know.

  • As of 2003, Counting not just CO2, but CH4, N2O, CFC's and all other miscellaneous gasses, humans produce approximately 0.3% of all greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. Yep, three tenths of one percent.

    But yeah you're probably right, the giant flaming ball of gas in the sky (solar cycles) probably doesn't have anything to do with the Earth's climate changing, it's all on us.

    Send a private message if anyone wants references/sources for my data, I have them.

  • anyone remember the global cooling scare?

  • i like the music

  • -12 here tonite, going to go put Anti-freeze in my car and scrape the windshield.

    Global Warming?

    Seems to me, last year and this year's winters have been cold, frigid, anything but warm.

    Hell, we didn't have a warm summer in '08 either...

    GW? I think not!

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  • You probably hate puppies to you ignorant piece of shit. Get this fact down your ass. The region of Antartica may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier! So why don't you tell them polar bears that same thing.

  • ignorant people..if you dont want to do something..dont do it....live ur life without knowing the effect of global warming...for those people who care...thnx to them..!!!

  • your so stupid...i hate ignorant people who call other people ignorant. Do u see the conundrum? I bet you've only watched videos about global warming, but never ones disproving it..get a fucking clue man.

  • How dramatic. Let's take a little quiz here.

    How many people here think that Polar Bears are a species?

    What is the largest killer of Polar Bears?

    No, they aren't. Polar bears are to brown bears what Rottweilers are to mastiffs.

    The largest killer of polar bears are Canadian Eskimos.

  • Polar bear is its own species (Ursus maritimus). Brown bear (Ursus arctos) is not to Polar bear what Rottweiler (Canis lupus familiaris) are to Mastiff (Canis lupus familiaris).. Simple biology.. U american?

  • There is disagreement on the meaning of "species". I hold to the definition that a "species" is the point at which two branches can no longer successfully produce functional offspring. Using that definition, Polar Bear and Brown Bear are breeds, rather than distinct species because they can mate and produce functional offspring.

    I knew when I wrote it that in classification they are given a species designation, but assumed that anyone discussing this would default to the biological definition.

  • how sad NOOOOOOOOOOT i have something to say screw you hippies with your deep feeling for animals now can i grab those feeling and direct them to HUMAN beings im with save the cattle and sheeps becuase we need to eat and for all the japanese stop killing the whales and leave some for me as for polar bears who cares im sure if they looked like some disfugured bear people wouldnt car but becuase so adorable we shoud save them its nature and this so called global warming is natural.

  • Nice picture at 0:31 The 1928 picture is winter looking at the sky and the 2004 picture is summer looking at the sky guess what ice melts in summer.

  • Well, thats kind of what gaciers don't do.. They DON'T melt at summers.. Jises.. What the **** do people learn in schools now-adays?

  • If you can't see the obvious difference between winter and summer in that photo I would suggest that you get out into the great outdoors more often. Did they teach spelling in your school?

  • Well, pardon for not being an englishman. Still I don´t see the relevence. Again, Glaciers DO NOT melt in the summer: The reason for glaciers forming is that they remain intact all year round. And besides that.. Its an old black and white photo. How can anyone tell a grey sky being a summer sky or a winter sky?

  • Now looking at it again I see your simply blind to the obvious.. If it had been a wintershot the mountains would be covered with snow, which they are not.. So again, what the **** do people learn in schools now adays...

  • If someone took a photo of you and super imposed your head on a photo of a naked person would you say OMG who took the photo of me naked? You believe that the first picture was taken in 1928 and you can't see the obvious difference between summer and winter.

  • I'm sorry but you must be confused. That photo is real. I wouldn't put false pictures in this video. The glacier is named Upsala, from Patagonia, Argentina. Ever since the climate change, it has been rapidly melting. There in Patagonia, the glaciers are melting at a rate of 42 cubic kilometers each year... FASTER than anywhere else on Earth where the ice caps are melting. So, no. It was not taken in the summer like you think.

  • So what? Have a stab at how Greenland got it's name!

  • @Crazychaos3 only 10,000 years ago the great lakes were glaciers and the entire country of Canada was under a mile of ice also the northern part of the USA was also under a mile of ice. Then in only 2,000 years the ice melted, get a real life and stop being brainwashed

  • w0w nice computer job!!!!

  • you people are morons global warming does not exist

  • all of you are right but action is harder then words....

  • no les aterra!!!....en esto se esta convirtiendo.....no seamos miopes ante esta realidad!!!hagamos algo por nuestros planeta...una de esas formas es ahorrar energia

  • A pocas imágenes falsas y algunas fotos de los osos polares saludable y todo el mundo está llorando de que el planeta está condenado. Vea la imagen en 0:31 es evidente que uno es verano y el otro es invierno. ¿Por qué la gente deje engañar tan fácilmente a creer esta tontería?