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"it's easy to confuse the essence of what you're doing with the tools you are using" ... "computer science isnt real.. very little difference between what I can build and what I can imagine" -- Abelson
@Ilikemustard You want me to give you a cookie or something? Your comment was so beyond pointless that i was scratching the shit out of my balls the entire time while typing with one hand.
The heart of this video: "There's not all that much difference in what I can build, and what I can imagine"... That hit home for me. I'm about to be a Computer Science Major!
I only reason i came here is because i have computer science next year in my school. I'm a Freshman who's going to be a somphore and i'm taking computer science. I don't really like math, so if computer science have to do with math i'm not taking it. Can anyone really tell me what computer science really is, and what are you learning from it for the future.
@rpowell1986 Damn!!! You seriously alot of Mathematics. Let me guess there not like the small math we do right? There the crazy x,y and crazy numbers? When you took it, Do u like it and was it fun. I just like the name computer science. I heard it have to do with something like programming games, and some other stuffs.
@jjmike1jj No complex Math like differential equations, Linear Algebra.. I know an Engineer who told me that Computer Science is up to par with Engineers in Mathematics. Sorry to break it to you if you hate Math.
@youcrot How is it stupid? In college, students first have to be taught to forget many preconceived notions in order to truly understand how a system works, and what they are dealing with. That's exactly what he's doing here. He's teaching them about the ESSENCE of computer sciences, and how it applies to the larger picture, not simply telling them how to work with technology. The single greatest thing an institute of higher learning can teach is how to think for yourself.
@salemcripple pt2: They don't simply tell you the answer, but how to find out the answer on your own, and if need be, how to make an answer if one isn't available. He probably goes into greater detail about the subject at hand, but this video it 10 mins out of a lecture that was probably an hour or more long.
This video is actually highly interesting. I like what the professor stated about computer programs being actually "not real", meaning that they have little to no physical boundaries to the possibilities of a program. rather, the possibility of a program's capability is in all seriousness limited by one's own mind.
Computer science it's essentially a branch of mathematics, so the question about if computer science it's science or not, it's really a question about if mathematics it's a science or not... Obviously this guy believes that mathematics it's not a science :P
Hal is a very cool teacher, I wish my lectures were like that!
But I don't agree with him saying "Computer science is not really a science", because that's still a debatable subject, and the academic departments still didn't really get to a consensus about it.
This guy is basically directing his opinion to students and portioning out as though they were universal truth. "Computer science is not really a science"? That's debatable.
I really liked what he said towards the end. Computer Science is limited by the mind. I think if Benjamin Franklin were alive today he would major in Computer Science :)
The first thing he was mentioning didn't make any sense. Computer Science NOT a science? That's ridiculous LOL, it's a science.
Otherwise a fun little introduction to it. Computer Science is it's root isn't at all about computers, it's about computing and the limits of computation (but this is the root), now it is quite about numerous concepts.
The fact that the entire class is as silent as the grave whilst he's speaking just goes to show how much they respect him, and how awesome he actually is.
Just wanted to also say that both Abelson and Sussman are fine teachers in these lectures, I'm a programming beginner and I learned so much about the generic concepts of programming from these lectures. They both kept my attention throughout each lecture without me getting bored and they are both very talented at explaining things, although Sussman sometimes went a little too quickly for me. I also find Sussman quite amusing the way he chalks on the board with an almost demented rhythm..lol
You can download all of these videos in full in much better quality elsewhere on the web (the MIT website) although the sound quality is a little muffled on one or two of them. I think they're excellent, I've watched most of them on my iPod on the subway. The only trouble is I get a little lost with Sussman sometimes, he does have a tendency to dazzle you with his speed. Also you need to remember your calculus basics for one or two of them! These really turned me onto the concept of LISP.
computer science is the study of how problems can be solved with computer software. That is how I define it but lots of people think it means different things; even computer science professors. Software engineering is more business- and people- oriented as it is more concerned with the human resources in developing software.
Actually, Websters Dictionary defines science to be the following: "the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding" In all of the other definitions as well, the word natural does not come up, therefore I believe that Computer Science is indeed a branch of science.
This video is from 1986. Even so, he'd been teaching this now-legendary course for about 5 years at the time, and the equally well-regarded textbook for the course, which he co-wrote with Jerry Sussman, was first published in 1984.
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lets see ... if he is good in the computer and programming that means he not suppose to be a lecturer ...coz this what i realized ,all my lecturers are stupid , if they smart enough they will work in software company some where not in a university for the rest of there liefs ...but i hope i am not going to be like them ^:^
What he means is that "computers" as we have them today are just tools in what is largely considered "computer science" which is actually more along the lines of mathematics, computability, Turing machines/Godel's incompleteness theorem, etc.
It's not quite science, because it's not a methodology of proposing hypotheses and testing them against empirical evidence. It's not quite engineering, because the processes and methods aren't already known or elucidated upon. It is something of an art.
@JodoKaast I completely agree with your view. It can't be a science because it studies "fake" things, but it can't be an engineering, because the processes aren't already known and because the study of algorithmic problem solving is not really limited by the same factors that limit technology, but by the human imagination. It's pretty much a liberal art.
I really like Hal's lectures, even though I got kinda scared at first due to him being so blunt and sincere to his students.
I wish I could've been in MIT back then in the 70's. They don't make lectures like this anymore. Now it's just "What do you feel CS is?" This guy has the balls to tell those kids that everything they believe in is wrong -- CS doesn't even exist. And he's still right. The complexity crisis is the biggest limitation of the Turing Machine, the psychological limit, and it gets all the attention.
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This guy most share genes with George Bush. Look closely at his eyes and the way he speaks. He has the same way of moving his lips. The narrow space between the eyes is also there. With different hair you couldn't tell them apart :) Anyway I try to learn Scheme. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. A bit minimalistic for my taste.
"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." -- Edsger Dijkstra
The point at about time 7:50 is something I have often discussed in my lectures on computer science - that the history of computer "science" is not entirely, but largely, the history of learning how to manage complexity.
I bet you were a Cobal programmer right? Before we were accepted into the condensed class that I attended we had to take an IQ test. There were several hundred people that took it and I thought that I failed the test. I scored the highest out of everyone. They couldn't believe it because I had never been to college prior to taking it.
Being a member of Mensa might have had something to do with it.
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Precisely. This instructor is brilliant. For those of you with little to no imagination, what he was getting at was that computer science is not the science of computers, or concepts based in reality, but at the most fundamental level the science of implementing and proving ideas in mathematics with the help of a computer. In CS, we speak of abstract machines and theoretical languages; you just can't work with this stuff in a "real" science!
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RyanKensington 3 days ago
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Jarzka1990 2 weeks ago
I am very happy to see the vidoe after you give this Hal Abelson gives an introduction to the "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" lecture with an explanation of Declarative and Imperative programming.
bebeheuy 2 weeks ago
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willamricard 2 weeks ago
after i watched this video, my insight is very open because the video is very good to give information Hal Abelson gives an introduction to the "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" lecture with an explanation of Declarative and Imperative programming.
imegatrone 2 weeks ago
This guy does not make any sense at all
Green11Hornet 2 weeks ago
it´s a science hal...............
AL6025 1 month ago
>Casting spells with lisp 101
I wish this was my CS professor.
Phizanot 2 months ago
WTF?!?!?! I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT COMPUTER SCIENCE INVOLVES! NOT THE HISTORY OF EGYPT!! (facepalm) lol
ReunitePeace777 2 months ago
@ReunitePeace777
Get out.
Ilikemustard 1 month ago
@Ilikemustard lol
ReunitePeace777 1 month ago
"it's easy to confuse the essence of what you're doing with the tools you are using" ... "computer science isnt real.. very little difference between what I can build and what I can imagine" -- Abelson
Most influential book I ever read.
bluestarsw 2 months ago
I think i fell asleep within the first 15 minutes... BORING!!
GoodFellax21 3 months ago
@GoodFellax21 Its 10 minutes long...
xThexMaXx 3 months ago
@xThexMaXx i meant 15 seconds, lol.
GoodFellax21 3 months ago
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demsey15 1 month ago
@GoodFellax21
And that, my friend, is why your ADHD riddled self will never accomplish anything noteworthy.
Ilikemustard 1 month ago
@Ilikemustard And this, my friend, is why your judgemental ass will never get laid nor accomplish anything noteworthy.
GoodFellax21 1 month ago
@GoodFellax21
Uh, no. You see, I don't have the attention span of a goldfish.
Ilikemustard 1 month ago
@Ilikemustard You want me to give you a cookie or something? Your comment was so beyond pointless that i was scratching the shit out of my balls the entire time while typing with one hand.
GoodFellax21 1 month ago
Thanks for that.
wyra2008 4 months ago
lol @ 6:36 "Shit what did I get myself into"
numba1netsfan 4 months ago 4
FUCK THE SOUND OF CHALK IS REALLY ANNOYING AND TOURTURING !!!
MrAoun007 4 months ago 2
basicly what i got from this is living isnt life then what is it?
shayanrafizadeh 4 months ago
The heart of this video: "There's not all that much difference in what I can build, and what I can imagine"... That hit home for me. I'm about to be a Computer Science Major!
Jarvis3690 4 months ago
Wow, this dude's hair man.
Graynumber 4 months ago
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Siresadnoob 4 months ago
This is some boring shit right here.
games0124 4 months ago
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efgamboall 6 months ago
I only reason i came here is because i have computer science next year in my school. I'm a Freshman who's going to be a somphore and i'm taking computer science. I don't really like math, so if computer science have to do with math i'm not taking it. Can anyone really tell me what computer science really is, and what are you learning from it for the future.
jjmike1jj 9 months ago
@jjmike1jj Theres alot of Mathematics in CS. you can't escape it not even in CE or EE
rpowell1986 8 months ago
@rpowell1986 Damn!!! You seriously alot of Mathematics. Let me guess there not like the small math we do right? There the crazy x,y and crazy numbers? When you took it, Do u like it and was it fun. I just like the name computer science. I heard it have to do with something like programming games, and some other stuffs.
jjmike1jj 8 months ago
@jjmike1jj No complex Math like differential equations, Linear Algebra.. I know an Engineer who told me that Computer Science is up to par with Engineers in Mathematics. Sorry to break it to you if you hate Math.
icecraz3 5 months ago
@jjmike1jj CS has ALOT to do with math
Berto0391 8 months ago
It sounds fascinating, or at least it would if it was louder.
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-_O 8:29 It works because I can prove it.
5.99 + 1 = Magic
EyeConicRed 11 months ago
O_O 2:00 - 4:19 - 5:08 - 7:14
EyeConicRed 11 months ago
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EyeConicRed 11 months ago
algorithims?
direwitch 1 year ago
did he just say abelt??
maximslmai 1 year ago
(Lisp?)
flamingfigures 1 year ago
a little philosophical "sugar" to make the mind-numbing "medicine" go down!
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e35554r 1 year ago
ah, the legendary 6.001 class...
dillon4321 1 year ago
highly philosophical lecture.
xMaenadx 1 year ago
nice
azanez275 1 year ago
nice
azanez275 1 year ago
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Horribly stupid lecture..
youcrot 1 year ago
@youcrot How is it stupid? In college, students first have to be taught to forget many preconceived notions in order to truly understand how a system works, and what they are dealing with. That's exactly what he's doing here. He's teaching them about the ESSENCE of computer sciences, and how it applies to the larger picture, not simply telling them how to work with technology. The single greatest thing an institute of higher learning can teach is how to think for yourself.
salemcripple 1 year ago
@salemcripple pt2: They don't simply tell you the answer, but how to find out the answer on your own, and if need be, how to make an answer if one isn't available. He probably goes into greater detail about the subject at hand, but this video it 10 mins out of a lecture that was probably an hour or more long.
salemcripple 1 year ago
great video
pdidyking 1 year ago
This video is actually highly interesting. I like what the professor stated about computer programs being actually "not real", meaning that they have little to no physical boundaries to the possibilities of a program. rather, the possibility of a program's capability is in all seriousness limited by one's own mind.
LastRellik 1 year ago
@LastRellik and the machine/ram/processor/videocard
hasenj 1 year ago
Computer science it's essentially a branch of mathematics, so the question about if computer science it's science or not, it's really a question about if mathematics it's a science or not... Obviously this guy believes that mathematics it's not a science :P
Agressor3400 1 year ago
Hal is a very cool teacher, I wish my lectures were like that!
But I don't agree with him saying "Computer science is not really a science", because that's still a debatable subject, and the academic departments still didn't really get to a consensus about it.
Other than that, great class!
Gretgor666 1 year ago
This guy is basically directing his opinion to students and portioning out as though they were universal truth. "Computer science is not really a science"? That's debatable.
Gretgor666 1 year ago
where's part 2?
WarmBread123 1 year ago
with computer scince i will learn how to program a frikin computer?
exodiakingofcards 1 year ago
@exodiakingofcards Yes! Of course!
pdidyking 1 year ago
its a cool vid. thanks
sirkouxiong 1 year ago
its definatley a science what is he talking about. engineering is not the only thing in computer science
7arnebcab7 1 year ago
Wow. Finally someone who doesn't try to scare you with information but teaches you HOW to think, not what to think.
I recommend this video to anyone learning programming.
highlander2107 1 year ago
I really liked what he said towards the end. Computer Science is limited by the mind. I think if Benjamin Franklin were alive today he would major in Computer Science :)
clockmonster786 1 year ago
post the nex part plss
gymboy19 2 years ago
MIT posted the videos themselves. Search for "SICP" and it'll come up right away.
Actually no, don't even.. you even had to ask, you don't deserve to be programming.
rocketlauncher2 2 years ago
y not wat r u tryin to say
gymboy19 2 years ago
@gymboy19
You sound like a clueless fuck. Computing isn't even your place.
rocketlauncher2 1 year ago
@rocketlauncher2
gymboy19 1 year ago
ty...
emy16 2 years ago
awesome, I don't agree with all what he said .. but awesome man! specially the second half (controlling complexity)
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The first thing he was mentioning didn't make any sense. Computer Science NOT a science? That's ridiculous LOL, it's a science.
Otherwise a fun little introduction to it. Computer Science is it's root isn't at all about computers, it's about computing and the limits of computation (but this is the root), now it is quite about numerous concepts.
Entertainmentwf 2 years ago
Thank you for this video
CSC104UTM 2 years ago 3
Have you read your SICP today!
NOTANANUS4k 2 years ago 13
Yes, yes I have! Twice, as a matter of fact!
That's some good SICP...
AATTrueGGamer 2 years ago
The fact that the entire class is as silent as the grave whilst he's speaking just goes to show how much they respect him, and how awesome he actually is.
AATTrueGGamer 2 years ago
Every class at university I go is just like this.... Aisde from the 300 person lecture rooms. I assume this is a university lecture hall.
C1u3z 2 years ago
You're saying respect is still around?
vrghiks 2 years ago
I think this lecturer is simply amazing! I would love to have him as one of my CS lecturers.
dazzathedaff 2 years ago
me too seems really organized guy i want to be a game director in my life
jimbohunter21 2 years ago
Yeah i find him very interesting too
Ludlumk9 2 years ago
wow thank fuck my CompSci lectures arent thing boring
saitokasuza 2 years ago
As Edger Dijsktra said, Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes...
Agressor3400 2 years ago 11
if this is how classes are..then sign me up!!
ancxxxsold13r 2 years ago
LOL
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JuligJars 2 years ago
Um so what if i wanted to study about and how to make processors like dual and quad cores, etc. Is that related to computer science?
DXcellence718 2 years ago
Related? Yes, but you would be better off in an electrical engineering program if your interest is computer hardware.
vituperative 2 years ago
Computer science is the art of telling a machine how to do things since you know your fellow humans at some point will fuck up xD
CamiloSanchez1979 2 years ago
and you've never had a machine let you down?? lmao
zircle1 2 years ago
computer is a small bibliotec like 10000000000000000 books together is more fast to anser your cuestion but still not perfect enought
alex200040 2 years ago
This is so lovely, thanks for the video.
benutzer2 2 years ago
He has nice hand writing.
TwilightMoon777 2 years ago
I achived satori.
IdoDarklyCute 2 years ago
without actually reading SICP? Preposterous.
f9901758 2 years ago
Best......Video.......Ever
string22 2 years ago
Just wanted to also say that both Abelson and Sussman are fine teachers in these lectures, I'm a programming beginner and I learned so much about the generic concepts of programming from these lectures. They both kept my attention throughout each lecture without me getting bored and they are both very talented at explaining things, although Sussman sometimes went a little too quickly for me. I also find Sussman quite amusing the way he chalks on the board with an almost demented rhythm..lol
NameNotaNumber 2 years ago
You can download all of these videos in full in much better quality elsewhere on the web (the MIT website) although the sound quality is a little muffled on one or two of them. I think they're excellent, I've watched most of them on my iPod on the subway. The only trouble is I get a little lost with Sussman sometimes, he does have a tendency to dazzle you with his speed. Also you need to remember your calculus basics for one or two of them! These really turned me onto the concept of LISP.
NameNotaNumber 2 years ago
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dogowner2006 2 years ago
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kimae247 3 years ago
THE SUSSMAN
FlakatyFlakFlak 3 years ago 2
Thats the traitor abelson fool
thev0id 2 years ago
WHAT YEAR IS THIS FROM
FTrain4750 3 years ago
1994
IdoDarklyCute 3 years ago
*cower in shame*
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bercingetorix 3 years ago
iggy if you so great why are you on youtube? shouldnt you be busy
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I could only watch the first minute or two. This guy is a wanker.
iggy4323 3 years ago
he looks like a decent teacher you jackass. they are hard to come by now a days. no one gives a shit you english fuck
SpecialK2007x 3 years ago 3
if you call him a decent teacher.. then you haven't had a decent teacher.
iggy4323 3 years ago
you're a wanker, and you'll never be as accomplished as him.
profchaos1080 3 years ago 4
too late, well on my way
iggy4323 3 years ago
Honestly, wouldn't have guessed. Keep telling yourself that though.
cjfresh4 3 years ago
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It's okay for me to think this guy is a shitty teacher.
iggy4323 3 years ago
It's okay for you to express your opinion, but your opinion retarded.
Disprofuse 3 years ago
It's okay to express your opinion on his opinion, but my opinion is retarded.
themangodess 3 years ago
CS, Haoora!
Islandfad 3 years ago
This teacher is good. I've seen him preform miracles. His infinite algorithm argument is genius.
Islandfad 3 years ago
WHAT is it all about
ALIYUMANU 3 years ago
computer science is the study of how problems can be solved with computer software. That is how I define it but lots of people think it means different things; even computer science professors. Software engineering is more business- and people- oriented as it is more concerned with the human resources in developing software.
cassidy408 3 years ago
WOW. "Computer science isn't really a science." Hmm.
Fishfuckmagician 3 years ago
yea, it isnt really science, because science = something happens naturally like physics, for example
orgthingy 3 years ago
Actually, Websters Dictionary defines science to be the following: "the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding" In all of the other definitions as well, the word natural does not come up, therefore I believe that Computer Science is indeed a branch of science.
captainhampton 3 years ago
I HAVE READ SICP.
SAGERUman 3 years ago 2
My other car is a CDR
Breathfire2001 3 years ago 4
HAVE YOU READ YOUR SICP TODAY
cheesechoker 3 years ago 25
This video is from 1986. Even so, he'd been teaching this now-legendary course for about 5 years at the time, and the equally well-regarded textbook for the course, which he co-wrote with Jerry Sussman, was first published in 1984.
matthewv789 3 years ago 2
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Must be his first day on the job, poor sap.
Code9aa 3 years ago
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lets give this prof a psychological checkup! :D
DontTakeCrack 3 years ago
Hair loss or dorm party gone wild?
Nexis 4 years ago
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and i am also sure that he repeats this lecture every time every year for the new students until its being mean less for him .... peace
mrjo800 4 years ago
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lets see ... if he is good in the computer and programming that means he not suppose to be a lecturer ...coz this what i realized ,all my lecturers are stupid , if they smart enough they will work in software company some where not in a university for the rest of there liefs ...but i hope i am not going to be like them ^:^
mrjo800 4 years ago
damb, you are one ignorant motherfucker! LOL
maze70 4 years ago 12
Mrjo have you ever thought that it was you who wasn't smart?
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TheShawnandKalebshow 4 years ago
so wait you need to e good at math to know about computer science
cadet209futuristic 4 years ago
Very good. I want teacher like that.
mutinjozo 4 years ago
oh hi i just wanna know if computer is hard or easy because i am trying to get master's degree. 5 years of university.
collegebasketbal23 4 years ago
I Wanted To Major In Computer Science....But I Just FAILED Trigonometry!
So now I've switched to Multimedia LOL!
videodude23 4 years ago
OMG, when i get lecturers like this, I end up falling asleep. Feel real sorry for those students
tamaumaga 4 years ago
What he means is that "computers" as we have them today are just tools in what is largely considered "computer science" which is actually more along the lines of mathematics, computability, Turing machines/Godel's incompleteness theorem, etc.
It's not quite science, because it's not a methodology of proposing hypotheses and testing them against empirical evidence. It's not quite engineering, because the processes and methods aren't already known or elucidated upon. It is something of an art.
JodoKaast 4 years ago 5
@JodoKaast I completely agree with your view. It can't be a science because it studies "fake" things, but it can't be an engineering, because the processes aren't already known and because the study of algorithmic problem solving is not really limited by the same factors that limit technology, but by the human imagination. It's pretty much a liberal art.
I really like Hal's lectures, even though I got kinda scared at first due to him being so blunt and sincere to his students.
Gretgor666 1 year ago
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME HERE
1)What is HIS concept of Computer science?
2)And what happen to his hair?
BetterThanUForSure 4 years ago
lol @ 2, seriously, wtf happened?
cky83 4 years ago
like omg he's balding! lame. shuddup.
jmljunior 4 years ago
computer as science is better than medicine
comment pls
ifuckallturksgirls 4 years ago 2
I wish I could've been in MIT back then in the 70's. They don't make lectures like this anymore. Now it's just "What do you feel CS is?" This guy has the balls to tell those kids that everything they believe in is wrong -- CS doesn't even exist. And he's still right. The complexity crisis is the biggest limitation of the Turing Machine, the psychological limit, and it gets all the attention.
Erudecorp 4 years ago 5
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This guy most share genes with George Bush. Look closely at his eyes and the way he speaks. He has the same way of moving his lips. The narrow space between the eyes is also there. With different hair you couldn't tell them apart :) Anyway I try to learn Scheme. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. A bit minimalistic for my taste.
squiggey 4 years ago
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computer science IS science!
vsimoul 4 years ago
This guy make a good point. I like to think of Computer Science is the art of problem solving.
... and yes I used Computer Science because that's what it's called which was the only thing about this video that sort of got to me.
jposton86 4 years ago 2
There are a number of good reasons for studying programming. I think one of them is that it helps to develop problem-solving skills in general.
TheFallibleFiend 4 years ago 3
"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." -- Edsger Dijkstra
The point at about time 7:50 is something I have often discussed in my lectures on computer science - that the history of computer "science" is not entirely, but largely, the history of learning how to manage complexity.
TheFallibleFiend 4 years ago 7
Jesus, what's wrong with the guy's hair?
aardbeias 4 years ago
i think he studied too much at the point that he burned his hair
LatinSince1974 4 years ago
Thanks for posting this video.
You are a very good teacher.
LadyDemocrat
ChgoChef 4 years ago
I bet you were a Cobal programmer right? Before we were accepted into the condensed class that I attended we had to take an IQ test. There were several hundred people that took it and I thought that I failed the test. I scored the highest out of everyone. They couldn't believe it because I had never been to college prior to taking it.
Being a member of Mensa might have had something to do with it.
LadyDemocrat
ChgoChef 4 years ago
oh my gosh you must be so smart!
deernardz 4 years ago
fascinating.
cinesparrow 4 years ago
There's a girl in the class. Obviously fake ;)
fffffffffffffffffffy 4 years ago 5
Homie at 6:34 looked so lost. spaced out! Oh and this guy seems like a bad teacher.
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wkdlush07 4 years ago
Precisely. This instructor is brilliant. For those of you with little to no imagination, what he was getting at was that computer science is not the science of computers, or concepts based in reality, but at the most fundamental level the science of implementing and proving ideas in mathematics with the help of a computer. In CS, we speak of abstract machines and theoretical languages; you just can't work with this stuff in a "real" science!
FesterS80 4 years ago 2
It's Computer Creationism, Duh.
iCatDaddy 4 years ago
I take heed from this lecture, great stuff.
pythonbyte 4 years ago
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this guy is a moron
jackmosley06 4 years ago
which guy?
mlittman 4 years ago
This video was made in the 80's, and it about Computer Science. You don't need to know more than that. NEXT!
hack451 4 years ago
Yeah, they didn't have computers until the 90's!
Attila226 4 years ago
"This video was made in the 80's, and it about Computer Science. You don't need to know more than that. NEXT!"
Absolutely not true. Just by your comment I know that you have no idea what computer science really is.
Sure the programming languages and technologies have changed a bit in the past 20 years, but the core ideas haven't.
I strongly recommend the entire SICP series of lecture to anyone interested in computer science and/or Lisp. Just Google "SICP lectures" to find them.
cheesy9 4 years ago 4
Computer Science is not a Science? WTF We have models for computability, logics theory etc. Isnt that science?
tjerk 5 years ago
It is a science, the study getting from Problem to solution, not just checking solutions.
martindukz 5 years ago
some of what my CISC professor said (who is actually teaching C++) reminded me of the general theme of this lecture.
hanumizzle 5 years ago
I don't care for Scheme personally, but this is pretty deep stuff :)
hanumizzle 5 years ago
this is high school or college in class?
spacered 5 years ago
These freely avaiable lecture are really, really good!
Wonderful! (btw scheme rocks!)
sttau 5 years ago 2