@yerk3 PT III: we didn't have Monsanto execs pinponging between positions as senior adviser to Deputy Commissioner of the FDA when it comes time to approve legislation based on food safety & then pushing Monsanto's agendas as a pioneer in the field of biotechnology as VP of Public Policy for Monsanto once laws are in place to facilitate these agendas. Monsanto has more than enough data to stop this monumental debauchery, but refuses to take responsibility. This is 1 beast with 2 heads.
@yerk3 PT II: To further stress their blatant neglect, Per Phill Angell, Monsanto’s director of corporate communications, “Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food,” he said. ”Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A.’s job. And that statement might be somewhat plausible if..
@yerk3 PT I: To point out that corporations don't intentionally seek to kill off their customer base, when referring to Monsanto, is like saying cancer's objective is not to kill its host. IT DOES NOT MATTER! The end result is still the same. When your "religion is capitalism..." and "all other concerns are secondary," that is blatantly negligent and a conscious decision to be negligent is equal to intent. To choose to starve a child and then say that you didn't mean to harm it is ludicrous.
The corporations certainly are manipulating every advantage they have to control the food supply. I don't dispute that. The problem I have with this video is that it preys upon peoples ignorance of biology to let their imaginations run amock. There is no evidence that GMO's could present a significant threat. to humans or the biosphere and given what we know of genetics (which is a lot) they seem to be safe. There is nothing inherently different about them and many have been tested.
@michalchik "D. magna fed GM-maize showed a significantly reduced fitness performance: The mortality was higher, a lower proportion of females reached sexual maturation, and the overall egg production was lower compared to D. magna fed UM isogenic maize.""The combination of a reduced fitness performance combined with earlier onset of reproduction of D. magna fed Bt-maize indicates a toxic effect rather than a lower nutritional value of the GM-maize." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347840
@myndy86 BT is an insecticide, that is used by organic farmers as a synthetic pesticide alternative because it is viewed by organic farrners as toxic to insects but not humans. Of course a GM product designed to kill insects will kill insects. If you have a beef with BT then it should not be used on food period. The problems isn't GM it is the BT which is not viewed as a threat to vertebrates.
@michalchik Bt in GE crops are not the same as Bt spray. Bt in GE crops induce metabolic variations involving the primary nitrogen pathway, can make the crops expressing cry proteins phenotypically abnormal affecting their growth and reproduction, high nitrogen levels can significantly increase the level of cry proteins in the crops, increased potential for HGT, etc. compared to Bt spray, which is used less often than the 100% supposed expression in Bt crops and is more degradeable.
@michalchik "Animal toxicity studies with certain GM foods have shown that they may toxically affect several organs and systems.""The results of most studies with GM foods indicate that they may cause some common toxic effects such as hepatic, pancreatic, renal, or reproductive effects and may alter the hematological, biochemical, and immunologic parameters." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18989835
@michalchik "Several convergent data appear to indicate liver and kidney problems as end points of GMO diet effects in the above-mentioned experiments. This was confirmed by our meta-analysis of all the in vivo studies published, which revealed that the kidneys were particularly affected, concentrating 43.5% of all disrupted parameters in males, whereas the liver was more specifically disrupted in females (30.8% of all disrupted parameters)." enveurope"dot"com/content/23/1/10
@myndy86 Again if you read the whole article you'll see it is not the technology that is the problem, it is the herbicide Round Up as well as the pesticide BT not GM. I would be perfectly happy to set reasonable limits for contamination with these herbicides and pesticides. Chemicals can be very dangerous. Simple transgenics are probably not. They should be no more threatening than a new breed of plant arrived at through selective breeding and time.
@michalchik Your initial statement was "There is no evidence that GMO's could present a significant threat. to humans or the biosphere and given what we know of genetics (which is a lot) they seem to be safe. There is nothing inherently different about them and many have been tested." That made it seem like you believe ALL GMO's are safe, and there is nothing different about them, etc. Your statement didn't exclude RR, LL, Bt varieties, etc.
@michalchik You said "They should be no more threatening than a new breed of plant arrived at through selective breeding and time." The problem here is that GMO's are almost always conventional breeding and in addition to that, recombinant DNA, knockout genes, etc. are used. Therefore, because GMO's are conventionally bred and have additional techniques used on them they pose additional risks, such as antibiotic resistant markers, virus promoters, use of agrobacterium, etc.
@michalchik You said "They should be no more threatening than a new breed of plant arrived at through selective breeding and time." The problem here is that GMO's are almost always conventional breeding and in addition to that, recombinant DNA, knockout genes, etc. are used. Therefore, because GMO's are conventionally bred and have additional techniques used on them they pose additional risks, such as antibiotic resistant markers, virus promoters, use of agrobacterium, etc.
@michalchik "We observed that after the consumption of MON863""Chemistry measurements reveal signs of hepatorenal toxicity""Triglycerides increased by 24-40% in females (either at week 14, dose 11% or at week 5, dose 33%, respectively); urine phosphorus and sodium excretions diminished in males by 31-35% (week 14, dose 33%)""with the present data it cannot be concluded that GM corn MON863 is a safe product." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17356802
@michalchik "GM-fed mice of all ages considered, the number of perichromatin granules is higher and the nuclear pore density lower.""we found enlargements in the smooth endoplasmic reticulum in GM-fed mice Sertoli cells." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15718213
"our data suggest that GM soybean intake can influence hepatocyte nuclear features in young and adult mice" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12441651
@michalchik "Several proteins belonging to hepatocyte metabolism, stress response, calcium signalling and mitochondria were differentially expressed in GM-fed mice, indicating a more marked expression of senescence markers in comparison to controls. Moreover, hepatocytes of GM-fed mice showed mitochondrial and nuclear modifications indicative of reduced metabolic rate. This study demonstrates that GM soybean intake can influence some liver features" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18648843
@michalchik "3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex-and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs."effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn." biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
@michalchik "this study was designed to evaluate the effects of transgenic corn on the rats that were fed through three generations with either GM corn or its conventional counterpart.""there were some minimal histopathological changes in liver and kidney. Changes in creatinine, total protein and globulin levels were also determined in biochemical analysis." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18191319
@michalchik "mice were fed a diet containing MON810 or its parental control maize or a pellet diet containing a GM-free maize""MON810 maize induced alterations in the percentage of T and B cells and of CD4(+), CD8(+), gammadeltaT, and alphabetaT subpopulations of weaning and old mice fed for 30 or 90 days, respectively, at the gut and peripheral sites. An increase of serum IL-6, IL-13, IL-12p70, and MIP-1beta after MON810 feeding was also found." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19007233
@michalchik "Atlantic salmon fed GM maize showed some small changes in stress protein levels and activities, but none of these changes were comparable to the normalized gene expression levels analysed for these stress proteins. GM maize seemed to induce significant changes in white blood cell populations which are associated with an immune response." onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2761.2007.00808.x/abstract
@michalchik "corn byproducts, such as pollen and detritus, enter headwater streams and are subject to storage, consumption, and transport to downstream water bodies.""feeding trials showed that consumption of Bt corn byproducts reduced growth and increased mortality of nontarget stream insects. Stream insects are important prey for aquatic and riparian predators, and widespread planting of Bt crops has unexpected ecosystem-scale consequences." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17923672
@michalchik "Plant residues of transgenic plants, plowed under at harvest and kept mixed with soil for up to 4 months, affected soil respiration, bacterial communities, and mycorrhizal establishment by indigenous endophytes." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/ PMC1287690/
"Our results show that transgenic crops expressing Cry1Ab protein at 5000 ppb may affect food consumption or learning processes and thereby may impact honey bee foraging efficiency." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18206234
@michalchik "a 7-day oral exposure to the various treatments (transgenic, imidacloprid-treated and control), honey bee feeding behaviour was disturbed and bees consumed significantly less CCRI41 cotton pollen than in the control group in which bees were exposed to conventional cotton pollen. It may indicate an antifeedant effect of CCRI41 pollen on honey bees and thus bees may be at risk because of large areas are planted with transgenic Bt cotton" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20700762
@michalchik Many GMO's are significantly different than their near isolines, come on, do you think high levels of cry proteins in Bt crops are really not inherently diferent than their near isolines? "Transgenic seeds responded differentially to the same environment as compared to their respective isogenic controls, as a result of the genome rearrangement derived from gene insertion." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18393457
@michalchik The video asks for 3 phase studies used for testing drugs, which include testing on hundreds of human subjects to be applied to GMO food crops, compared to "The most detailed regulatory tests on the GMOs are three-month long feeding trials of laboratory rats, which are biochemically assessed. The tests are not compulsory, and are not independently conducted. The test data and the corresponding results are kept in secret by the companies." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20941377
@myndy86 Basically you have proven what I and most scientists agree with. The herbacide round up and the pesticide BT are toxic. Do you have any evidence that transgenics not specifically designed to produce toxins are toxic? GM is not the problem it is poor screening for chemical contamination. You want to use the precautionary principle with herbicides and pesticides, I totally agree. BT should not be approved for use on organic food. Nor should nicotine or pyrethrins for that matter,
@michalchik 52% of organic farmers use no pesticides whatsoever and those that do generallu use significantly less and more biological pest control like crop rotation, crop cover, predatory insects etc. than conventional. "organic produce carries significantly fewer pesticide residues than conventional produce." nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/faq/BuyOrganicFoodsC.shtml
Compared to 100% of Bt crops supposed to express cry proteins and likely 100% of HT crops sprayed with herbicides.
@michalchik You said, "Do you have any evidence that transgenics not specifically designed to produce toxins are toxic?" HT GM crops are not designed to produce toxins and I already provided evidence of adverse affects in animal feeding studies. HT and Bt are the most common varieties of GM crops and very little research has been done on GM papaya, squash, etc. varieties other than the initial 28-90 day rodent trial done by the biotech company themselves(a conflict of interest).
@myndy86 Yes but they wind up laced with toxins because people pour toxins on them. Is that bad, yes. But the answer is to limit the toxins, not blame a technology that is not causing the problem. Its like blaming manufactures for drunk driving.
@michalchik You are correct that HT crops are sprayed with toxins. However, what I mentioned earlier is that HT and Bt are the most common varieties and the most commonlt tested. GM papaya, squash, etc. have very few studies to even look at, so it's easy to say they don't have adverse health affects if there are only a few studies done and almost all of them were done by the manufacturer. Without adequate studies you can't rule out potential adverse affects caused from GM itself.
@michalchik Ultimately the people in this video would like the 3 phase trials used in human drug regulations to be used in GE food regulations. Considering the very limited regulatory testing for GE food(28-90 day rodent trials) you can't blame them for wanting more safety measures before GE crops are introduced there and used for human consumption. Science requires the precautionary principle to be used and GE foods are generally rushed into production without adequate testing.
@myndy86 I am actually in favor of continued safety testing but requiring a full 3 phase study like is required for drugs is just not a reasonable response to the theoretical or evidential threats. Genetic changes very rarely lead to a dangerous new property in food. Would you or be in favor of 3 phase testing in each new breed or hybrid? When an organic farmer selected the healthiest plants for his next generation of crops should he use the PP? Those are all genetic changes.
@michalchik Because we are not generally looking for the food to have a specific effect other than in examples like Golden Rice, Phase 2 would be eliminated for most GE foods, reducing the cost of the studies. It is because those same conventional breeding methods are already used for genetically modified crops, etc. and in addition to that recombinant DNA techniques, knockout genes, etc. are used, that additional testing is required.
@michalchik I can give at least one example of a GM crop that was not designed to be HT or produce a toxin that had a potential adverse affect ""IRDC reported gastric erosions in four of twenty female rats given CR3-623 FLAVR SAVR™ tomatoes, but not in rats in any other group." fda.gov/Food/Biotechnology/Submissions/ucm225043.htm#out6
Pathology Working Group actually found double that number.
However, these were only 28 day rodent studies done by the biotech company.
@myndy86 Sorry bad experiment. "Gross and microscopic gastric erosions were seen in male and female control rats dosed with dionized water, in male and female rats fed the non-transgenic tomato, and in female rats fed the transgenic tomato. The Sponsor's IRDC report concluded that the "[h]istomorphology and the pattern of incidence of the necrosis and erosion suggested that these lesions were incidental in nature and unrelated to the respective test articles". Appeared in control group too.
@michalchik That is exactly my point. IRDC is a company that was paid by the biotech company to conduct the 3 studies , all 28 day rodent trials with 20 or less per group. One study found no gastric erosions. One of those studies found only the FlavrSavr tomato fed mice had gastric erosions. The third found gastric erosions in all groups. This inconsistency and the potential for the second study to be correct would warrant further studies but none were done.
@michalchik A meta analysis of the Pathology Working Groups data for the 3 studies would find 14 FlavrSavr fed rats had gastric lesions(and they had a smaller overall group size) compared to 11 for the Non transgenic tomato and control groups combined. This may not be statistically significant due to sample size but it needs further study. Another factor is that some different processes were used for some of the tomatoes in all 3 studies, as can be seen in the link.
@michalchik According to Fred A. Hines D.V.M. Staff Toxicologic Pathologist "Calgene failed to adequately address in their response some of the major issues raised by the Pathology Branch (PB) relating to the conduct an interpretations of the studies." biointegrity"dotorg/FDAdocs/18/view2.html
According to Arpad Pusztai "Seven out of forty rats on GM tomatoes died within two weeks for unstated reasons." actionbioscience"dot"org/biotech/pusztai.html
@myndy86 I agree additional studies in this case are warranted.
Are you sure you really know what is involved in a full 3 phase clinical trial especially when you are looking for a rare effect like cancer? we are talking about something like 25,000 dollars a person.
@michalchik Even specific labeling(e.g. Bt11) would allow for doctors to much more easily link an illness, etc. to a specific GM food. It would allow for population studies, etc. Even if GM food regulations required an independent review panel to approve it like human drugs do, that wouldn't allow GM foods with inconsistent study results like with the FlavrSavr to be approved, without much more testing.
@myndy86 OK, Those both sound like reasonable measures. I never bought the argument that GM products should not be labeled. I know that some people would avoid them because of irrational fears but that is their right. If there is a weird experimental result it needs to be investigated.
@michalchik Unlike most varieties of conventionally bred food crops, where it is relatively easy to get materials and patents generally don't restrict independent research. GM foods generally can only be studied by researchers from Universities that have a deal with the manufacturer. It is also because of independent research restrictions, that GM regulatory testing be more thorough, unlike conventionally bred crops that are generally more easily tested by independent researchers.
....Hawai'i ...very 'americanised...ie., hardly traditional and sadly very dull...sure there's great hotels...but that's NOT what most of us consider Hawai'i to be about ...it is as if the traditional soul has gone....in this presentation I feel your peaceful nature and your resistance....you must eradicate 'gmo' from your islands, gmo has no place here on Earth, nature is a far better designer...
Monsanto is owned by Pfizer fyo. The verdict is out. Gmo's cause infertility, cancer, destruction of intestinal bacteria, and even death in animals. For those of you who believe the bio tech whores, get a clue. It's not about money anymore, it's about power over the food supply and control over the human population.
The GMO crops create gluten sensitivity by alternating the bacterial flora in the intestinal tract. I'm suffering from Morbus dermatitis herpetiformis Duhring - a sub-form of gluten sensitivity, that creates eczema that don't respond to common treatments. I hope that the people stand up against this criminal abuse of our nutritional resources. My way: I don't buy anything that is not fresh and not organic. I cook from scratch, Dry them out by not buying their GM crap
Your average child/teen drinks more soda a day then water. And you wonder why our diabetes rates are rising? There is not a grain of evidence... All hearsay...
These are probably the same "Eco Terrorists" who raped farmers papaya fields all over. Nature cross breeds and evolves everyday, you don't see anybody criticizing that? Lol we've already F^c%ed up our planet to the point were most usable plants wont grow where we need them... So why is working toward our own sustainability so bad? Imagine how many barrels of oil wouldnt be burned if we grew all our own food/fuel? But no it has to be "GMO Free" right?
Genes cross species in the natural world. It's rare for macro-organisms like corn & humans to have DNA exchanges. However virus and our own cells exchange DNA with some regularity. More interestingly we are made of more beneficial bacterial DNA than we are made of our own native DNA and these genes are changing and being exchanged much more rapidly.
Learning this tech has risk & reward.
People that can be impacted should have a say.
I worry about corp. track record when things are going bad.
There will be a protest to get genetically engineered/modified organisms labeled in front of Long's streetside on Ka'ahumanu Ave in Kahului, Maui 8:00am - 11:00am on 3/26/11. Many other states are participating as well.
Please see the "Rally for the Right to Know" facebook page, for more info.
Petitions can be signed at the "organicconsumers" website.
Type "Millions Against Monsanto Campaign 2011" in the youtube search.
There will be protests regarding genetic engineering/modification in front of Long's streetside on Ka'ahumanu Ave in Kahului, Maui 8:00am - 11:00am on 3/26/11. Many other states are participating as well.
Please see the "Rally for the Right to Know" facebook page, for more info.
Petitions can be signed at the "organicconsumers" website.
@davetileguy I think the statistics are absolutely failed, people who was born in a different world from 70-100 years ago are the ones who reach those ages, we are seen more and more poeple dying less than 60 years old dying from cancer and from brain strokes even younger, and we can not know wich will be the average of life expectative for the actualy born generation...
There is someone saying that genes do not cross between species normally in nature. Gene transfer between species is a well recognised phenomenon. Japanese people haven a gene that breaks down agarose(is in seaweed they eat). This gene was acquired from bacteria from seaweed. Are many more e.g.s. 2. The drug trial mentioned involved injecting the subjects. Eating it would not cause the same effects. No problem with the technology. Problem is the power of the big biotech companies/capitalism
@popopeoepo it depends on which information one is eager to believe I think, all data can be manipulaten in any form if exist the intention to do it, just see obama saying there was a fire fight, and days later no fire fight existed
There is someone saying that genes do not cross between species normally in nature. Gene transfer between species is a well recognised phenomenon. Japanese people haven a gene that breaks down agarose(is in seaweed they eat). This gene was acquired from bacteria from seaweed. Are many more e.g.s. 2. The drug trial mentioned involved injecting the subjects. Eating it would not cause the same effects. No problem with the technology. Problem is the power of the big biotech companies/capitalism
These big corporations are designed to produce diseases,and sicknesses within human beings. These designs are malice against humanity..and this is their agenda for many, many years. Welcome back to Germany...and the dire humanity holocaust and genocide...
@GOTU62 Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence, or in this case, disregard. Corporations don't intentionally seek to kill off their customer base and potential future sources of low-cost labor, they just have a monumentally short-sighted approach where the ultimate objective is to make as much money as possible. All other concerns are secondary. Their religion is Capitalism, their god is the Invisible Hand of the Market, and they are fundamentalists.
@ollieflp They aren't looking at the long term, and that's obvious. If they were, they would be taking precautions to make sure that their customers had enough money to pay them in the future, and make sure that their workers had enough health to provide their labor. Poor people can't buy your products, and dead people can't stock your shelves.
@yerk3 The simply fact of the matter is if theres going to be no market for it these companies wouldn't do it, its not being done to make money and like it was said in the video these people of Hawaii are being used as guinea pigs just like pharmaceutical companies do when they pay people to do clinical trials.
@ollieflp You are vastly overestimating these CEOs' ability to look into the future. Their entire business model is geared towards amassing the biggest quantity of money now. The entire modus operandi has the ability to conceptualize maybe a year into the future, everything after that is purely hypothetical from their angle, and therefore not worth considering. They will bend nature and the law for their gains in the here and now, the future is just some other time.
@ollieflp "Not being done to make money?" Of course it is! Everything a corporation does is to make money. That is its reason to exist: to make as much money as possible this year and the next. If they wanted to do trials, they would just do trials, they would go the legal route, and if there wasn't a legal route, they would manipulate the law to make one. Massive corporations don't need to be sneaky, they can afford not to.
so grow some nads like France and destroy the fields, we have no one to blame for this horrible thing than ourselves, we get what we deserve i'm afraid =(
While it may or may not be true that GMO foods are bad for you why stop there? Let's spread the blame around a bit. Cell phones and their wireless land line relatives, laptop computers, large screen flat tv's, high tech automobiles, computers, and all the other conveniences of modern life. Let's get rid of them all. After all, life was much better in the stone age!
Regarding so-called terminator genes, they already exist without the aid of GMO. They are called hybrids. Seeds from so-called "terminator genes" can, if one were inclined to do so, be planted and will grow. They will not give you a true to type plant. This is exactly what happens with hybrids. If we are against GMO then we must be against hybrids as well!
@Farmerjohnist What about a slow process of two different seeds, growing in the same field? I don't agree with forcing NATURE ya know, that thing we're all made from that we constantly take for granted? I mean, it's been around a LOT longer then us, I think it knows a hell of a lot better us - GMO's are F-ed up, period It's not precise, it's not natural and it has bad side effects Just cuz you don't sprout cancer or become infertile in a few days, doesn't mean it's not slowly mutating you
GMO food will destroy the worlds food.. they plan to irradicate all natural food sources and seeds.. boycott the corps, gmos and monsanto..! campaign to remove gmo testing and at least for GM labelling..
Watch the video 'Food Inc' and many other videos on the net to learn what the devastating ramifications of GMO crops will have on people and the planet. Farmers of the world are being turned into debt slaves by these companies and we we the public are research guinea pigs who will pay the ultimate price in poor health,even death in order that the Monsanto's of the world not lose one dollar of business/profit. Also watch " Sweet Misery' and other videos to learn that aspartame in diet soda kills.
GMO is about population control. Yes! that is right. The wealthy elite of this world are funding research on GMO staple crops around the world which will be cross pollinated with indigenous plants just by being within mere miles of them. Then non GMO, organic plants will become GMO plants which of course you wont be allowed to grow because the Monsanto's' of the world hold the patent on those GMO seeds and they will force you to pay one way or another. Control the seed...control the population!
If America had not involved into the war, South Vietnam would have fallen into communism in 1954 and more Vietnamese would have been murdered in cultural revolutions like those launched by Mao in China (20 million deaths) and Khmer Rouge in Cambodia (2 millions).
Total Vietnamese democide by communists: 1,040,000 (1975-87)
Lol..the future of mankind. I on the other hand am excited for mankind progressing...Having technology available to do such things? To comprehend the mind of god! amaZing is it not? but we must know our limits as humans...thats why we test on hawiians! lmao
fuck i pay a few more cents for organic, GMOs suck. ownership of organisms & kife form thats fucked up. natural is soo much better anyways, strawberries are a good example of organic vs gmo.
it all goes back to one thing. the american occupation has to end so we can fix everything they destroyed and stop them from destroying anything further. their occupation of our government is making it nearly impossible to defend ourselves from them. genetic piracy, legal genocide, desecration of land and culture, desecration of the bodies and bones of our elders. it never ends, and they work so hard to keep everyone else from hearing about it.
If viewing this video on GMOs makes you angry and you'd like to do something about it, join with the rest of the world on May 31, 2010 in a national and international protest against against GMOs! This will take place on memorial day weekend on the Mall in Washington DC and on a larger global scale.
over nine billion mouths to feed by 2050, we're gonna need more living space, more chopping of the rainforest for paper and other wooden shit, more overfishing, more cars driving down air quality, more species going extinct. earth is our only home and we're not taking care of it, we're crowding it up. we're not capable colonizing space anytime soon. wTF can we do? ps i hate the idea of this fucking cat. he/she SHOULD do a video on the east boston cat that got called to jury duty though, lol
It makes me mad to hear all the stories of agribusiness. 2010 looks to be the tipping point. nonGMOproject has been introduced where labels will start appearing on nonGMO food. Consumers are getting more educated and countries from Ireland to Japan to Egypt have banned GMOs.
go to nongmoproject(dot)org
see "the world according to monsanto"
AND VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET! Buy organic, ask questions, buy nongmoproject labeled food.
frankenfood,frankenfood,frankenfood! Get it through your thick, fucking skulls! Type II diabetes, cancer, heart/stroke problems, MS and other neurological diseases, Alzheimer and similar diseases - all of these and more, continue to rise because greedy corporations with no conscience want to play GOD! Anyone who isn't fighting against these corporations, is supporting them! No one has the right to patent LIFE! It doesn't get any simpler than that.
Man I'm sure glad I don't work for Monsanto! I'd be afraid of walking out my house and being killed. If I worked for Monsanto I'd be afraid of being shoved into a car and taken somewhere and tortured, and if I'm lucky they'd kill me. And what about my family? There's no way I'd work for Monsanto, no way, not ethically or any way. And if I were a lawyer or politician for Monsanto I'd be triply afraid! You sure wouldn't find me doin' any deals with Monsanto. No way. good site is soisnessdotorg.
fuck GMO's. right now the company thats doing it on Hawaii on Molokai is the same company the made "Agent Orange" all thats shit they put in the plants to test the food goes into the ground and goes into the water source. all these companies should feed these fucken foods to there kids and see what happens.
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They are building on ancient techniques using their own land, in order to feed the hungry people of this world. There are always risks, but genetic engineering has saved millions of lives and the benefits far outweigh the costs, which can be controlled for now and improved over time.
This video is very, very biased and does not show the whole story at all!
Waving around words like "frankenfood" does not encourage me to believe you have any idea what you are talking about. You eat genetically modified foods, so does everyone. If they don't want it then they will have to starve: all cultivated and domesticated food has been genetically modified since before the pyramids were built. I work for Bill Jones, you know him? He rescues owls. Who do you work for?
Actually... i would like for people to stop being paranoid little children... Branding something as being unnatural and thus should be banned and avoided without looking into it is pathetic. "Frankenfood" how is that a levelheaded label?
When do we get to go after gays for being natural? for contaminating our school systems? When do we go after camera manufacturers for creating devices that steal our souls?
It has been shown that since GMO foods have hit the market that deadly illnesses like cancer has dramatically increased. Foreign countries require all GMO foods to be labeled as such and those foods aren't high in demand in those countries. The US doesn't require any labeling of GMO foods and actually is attacking farmers that don't use the pesticides made by companies like Monsanto. GMO food is poison.
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Your reasoning that the increase of cancer is caused by GMO is ridiculous because for one their are too so many causes for cancer that it would be ridiculous to blame it on GMO foods and GMO's have been going on for ages. Farmers domesticated animals and they chose the best traits for animals a form of genetic modification.
There is a difference between using the best of a species to get what you want versus injecting foreign genes into another life to hopefully get what you want. It's not my claims, it is researched fact that since GMO foods have been allowed into the food supply the rate of cancer has gone up. There are videos online of people that live close to Monsanto plants that have very high levels of PCB's in their system that is causing them problems. We also have a problem that our bees are dying off.
johnluvsiuna; you and people like you are puppets (or you work for Monsanto) and are useless to society! There are many more people starving in the world BECAUSE of GMOs...ever heard of research, or is it beyond your basic comprehension? You obviously didn't understand ANYTHING that was said in that video. This is the largest EXPERIMENT - EVER and no one can predict the long term ramifications of it! Nothing good will EVER come of this. Drugs and bacteria in the plants is totally insane!
I'm from Hawaii. GMOs are not all bad. Take the evolution of transportation, primitive humans made do with horses, but now we happily use far better and cheaper (relative to income) cars - of course there's the issue of car safety and pollution, and that must be worked on, but it's not a reason to not use cars at all.
Cars kill over a million people worldwide a year, are you willing to give up your car? GMO's purported negative effects, even the most extreme, pale in comparison.
Genetic engineering has been done for centuries through artificial selection. The only real difference here is that the modification takes less time and is less haphazard.
Which meant that we couldn't select for the traits we wanted without causing problems for the animal/crop we were manipulating. There were also some traits which couldn't be selected for at all.
With this new genetic modification we could create nitrogen fixing crops which would reduce the amount of fertilizer (and thus energy) needed to grow food or biofuel.
So destroy your computer and get off the internet. You're manipulating vast quantities of electrons and photons in order to send your messages. Your computer contains polymers created by the manipulation of hydrocarbons, metals extracted through manipulation of metal oxides, you eat food extracted from crops which have been manipulated over millenia. Genetic modification could provide cheap food and fuel for billions of people.
Do you have an alternate solution to world hunger?
It's worth noting that Genetically modified bacteria/fungi are already used to produce certain hormones or proteins which cannot be produced cheaply otherwise.
how about stop wasting,stop the hate, stop bowing to the rich at the expense of the poor, how about stopping the rulers from opressing their people for their own benefit..
OR...
we can learn how to care a little more for others...if we all give 2% of our earnings every year there would be no hunger left in the world....monsanto/usa is using gmo,s to control who eat and at what price.....IMMORAL...EVIL....DISGUSTING....DID I MENTION EVIL...?
How exactly can GMOs control who eats food? That doesn't make sense; they are just used to increase crop yields and thus allow competing businesses to sell food at a lower price. In what way does cutting crop yields help the poor? And why cut down consumption when GMOs do not require as much fertilizer or land to produce a large quantity of food?
No; it's about making money and the best way to do that is to reduce production costs because that means you can lower prices to beat your competitor.
Patent laws are a problem caused by government which shouldn't exist in the first place. If patent laws are the issue then they should be the focus of this video instead of GMOs.
Actually they already have created the terminator gene which renders a sterile seed. Then there's the cheat gene (that's what they call it) that works in conjunction w/ the terminator gene & that the cheat gene doesn't produce a seed until a chemical is sprayed on, then the plant produces the seed but the terminator gene kicks in. But worse, if it is spread via bees/birds, etc., we can see plant life ending w/o artificially propagating them.
But the plants with those genes won't reproduce and so they won't be propagated. Evolution will ensure that plant species in nature remain resilient. It's also possible to negate terminator genes by altering the structure of the chromosomes of genetically altered plant embryos (thereby ensuring they can only reproduce with similar GM plants).
The terminator one will produce seeds, it just won't be sterile, but that doesn't mean that nature cannot cross polinate those genes w/ everything else. But the fact is, they didn't gnegate the terminator genes. Remember, none of these have been tested to see the long term effects.
Which is another problem. The unknown. Which is what the guy who worked @ the Dept. of Health in this video mentioned, how testing would allow to see the harmful effects. unfortunately b/c it's unknown, it may happen not until many generations, or even sooner. There is no guarantee, but most importantly which is a sensitive issue to all & the reason why it's banned in 50 countries, there is no evidence that supports otherwise.
But evolutionary effects can be tested for many generations relatively quickly especially with GMOs modified to grow faster. And this "terminator" gene is not the only aspect of genetic modification to consider
Correct, this gene isn't the aspect of GMO, just that I used that example to your response. But the fact is they ARE NOT testing the effects. That is why people & all these testimonies come out b/c they neglect to do that, yet the FDA allows it. But there's a reason for that too.
But don't they need to test the effects to ensure a high crop yield? If they accidently created a gene which renders crops inefficient then wouldn't that risk their entire harvest?
I believe that's why that other person mentioned control or something like that where they get you to go back to the companies (mentioned in the video) in order to get more seeds.
That's a good question. But most importantly, how much of it is known that the terminator gene is in there? From evidence, or rather personal testimony alone, most of it is NOT labeled & as they pursued to require them to have labels, they can still have products w/o warning the public about labeling. This was also covered in the movie - FOOD, INC. So it's not so much that people would purposely buy that, just that they may not know about it.
But if they buy seeds from one source and a significant percentage fail to germinate why would they go back to that same source? And how would that help the companies reputation.
Furthermore wouldn't it cost a lot of money to alter every seed embryo to give it the terminator gene?
Not sure what you mean by alter seeds to give the terminator gene. B/c the way I understood it, that seed has the gene already & it is to be marketed.
And the other issue which was mentioned in this video as well as the movie FOOD, INC. is that nature has it's own way of continuing life & that's through birds & insects & once that terminator pollen makes it to another plant, as that consultant said, that gene is dominant, it's in the pool of other genes & you can't take it out once it spreads.
The gene makes the seed sterile. It spreads via pollen b/c gene can be found in the cells of living organism. That means in the leaf, the stem, the pollen, etc. This is why they made the video to warn people of its effects. You should check it out, it's very informative & they pretty much explain it in a good layman's term.
It seems they already have plants w/ the genes to produce seeds that are sterile. Not the plant is sterile but the seeds are. I think it's w/in the first 20mins. of the film as they talk more of the whole gene make up in general & how it is attached to the cell, or I could be wrong abt that part & may have seen it elsewhere. You'll have to google abt that part.
@WhyCantIVote I read you comments, you seem to be the only one debating the our side of agruement here, why is everyone falling for this propaganda are they too lazy to look at the evidence...have they not realise that the plant food they are eating are millions of years in the making.
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@yerk3 PT III: we didn't have Monsanto execs pinponging between positions as senior adviser to Deputy Commissioner of the FDA when it comes time to approve legislation based on food safety & then pushing Monsanto's agendas as a pioneer in the field of biotechnology as VP of Public Policy for Monsanto once laws are in place to facilitate these agendas. Monsanto has more than enough data to stop this monumental debauchery, but refuses to take responsibility. This is 1 beast with 2 heads.
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@yerk3 PT II: To further stress their blatant neglect, Per Phill Angell, Monsanto’s director of corporate communications, “Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food,” he said. ”Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A.’s job. And that statement might be somewhat plausible if..
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@yerk3 PT I: To point out that corporations don't intentionally seek to kill off their customer base, when referring to Monsanto, is like saying cancer's objective is not to kill its host. IT DOES NOT MATTER! The end result is still the same. When your "religion is capitalism..." and "all other concerns are secondary," that is blatantly negligent and a conscious decision to be negligent is equal to intent. To choose to starve a child and then say that you didn't mean to harm it is ludicrous.
TheEthericOne 1 week ago
EXCELLENT WORK. Very well put together. Thank you for your time, concern, heart and effort. I am grateful :)
TheEthericOne 1 week ago
i live in america and these gmo's are everywhere how do i know whats real? smh Who ever makes these things should clean up their mess.
TheMakerHimself 1 week ago
The corporations certainly are manipulating every advantage they have to control the food supply. I don't dispute that. The problem I have with this video is that it preys upon peoples ignorance of biology to let their imaginations run amock. There is no evidence that GMO's could present a significant threat. to humans or the biosphere and given what we know of genetics (which is a lot) they seem to be safe. There is nothing inherently different about them and many have been tested.
michalchik 2 months ago
@michalchik "D. magna fed GM-maize showed a significantly reduced fitness performance: The mortality was higher, a lower proportion of females reached sexual maturation, and the overall egg production was lower compared to D. magna fed UM isogenic maize.""The combination of a reduced fitness performance combined with earlier onset of reproduction of D. magna fed Bt-maize indicates a toxic effect rather than a lower nutritional value of the GM-maize." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347840
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@myndy86 BT is an insecticide, that is used by organic farmers as a synthetic pesticide alternative because it is viewed by organic farrners as toxic to insects but not humans. Of course a GM product designed to kill insects will kill insects. If you have a beef with BT then it should not be used on food period. The problems isn't GM it is the BT which is not viewed as a threat to vertebrates.
michalchik 1 month ago
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@michalchik Bt in GE crops are not the same as Bt spray. Bt in GE crops induce metabolic variations involving the primary nitrogen pathway, can make the crops expressing cry proteins phenotypically abnormal affecting their growth and reproduction, high nitrogen levels can significantly increase the level of cry proteins in the crops, increased potential for HGT, etc. compared to Bt spray, which is used less often than the 100% supposed expression in Bt crops and is more degradeable.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik "Animal toxicity studies with certain GM foods have shown that they may toxically affect several organs and systems.""The results of most studies with GM foods indicate that they may cause some common toxic effects such as hepatic, pancreatic, renal, or reproductive effects and may alter the hematological, biochemical, and immunologic parameters." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18989835
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "Several convergent data appear to indicate liver and kidney problems as end points of GMO diet effects in the above-mentioned experiments. This was confirmed by our meta-analysis of all the in vivo studies published, which revealed that the kidneys were particularly affected, concentrating 43.5% of all disrupted parameters in males, whereas the liver was more specifically disrupted in females (30.8% of all disrupted parameters)." enveurope"dot"com/content/23/1/10
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@myndy86 Again if you read the whole article you'll see it is not the technology that is the problem, it is the herbicide Round Up as well as the pesticide BT not GM. I would be perfectly happy to set reasonable limits for contamination with these herbicides and pesticides. Chemicals can be very dangerous. Simple transgenics are probably not. They should be no more threatening than a new breed of plant arrived at through selective breeding and time.
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik Your initial statement was "There is no evidence that GMO's could present a significant threat. to humans or the biosphere and given what we know of genetics (which is a lot) they seem to be safe. There is nothing inherently different about them and many have been tested." That made it seem like you believe ALL GMO's are safe, and there is nothing different about them, etc. Your statement didn't exclude RR, LL, Bt varieties, etc.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik You said "They should be no more threatening than a new breed of plant arrived at through selective breeding and time." The problem here is that GMO's are almost always conventional breeding and in addition to that, recombinant DNA, knockout genes, etc. are used. Therefore, because GMO's are conventionally bred and have additional techniques used on them they pose additional risks, such as antibiotic resistant markers, virus promoters, use of agrobacterium, etc.
myndy86 1 month ago
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@michalchik You said "They should be no more threatening than a new breed of plant arrived at through selective breeding and time." The problem here is that GMO's are almost always conventional breeding and in addition to that, recombinant DNA, knockout genes, etc. are used. Therefore, because GMO's are conventionally bred and have additional techniques used on them they pose additional risks, such as antibiotic resistant markers, virus promoters, use of agrobacterium, etc.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik "We observed that after the consumption of MON863""Chemistry measurements reveal signs of hepatorenal toxicity""Triglycerides increased by 24-40% in females (either at week 14, dose 11% or at week 5, dose 33%, respectively); urine phosphorus and sodium excretions diminished in males by 31-35% (week 14, dose 33%)""with the present data it cannot be concluded that GM corn MON863 is a safe product." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17356802
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "GM-fed mice of all ages considered, the number of perichromatin granules is higher and the nuclear pore density lower.""we found enlargements in the smooth endoplasmic reticulum in GM-fed mice Sertoli cells." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15718213
"our data suggest that GM soybean intake can influence hepatocyte nuclear features in young and adult mice" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12441651
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "Several proteins belonging to hepatocyte metabolism, stress response, calcium signalling and mitochondria were differentially expressed in GM-fed mice, indicating a more marked expression of senescence markers in comparison to controls. Moreover, hepatocytes of GM-fed mice showed mitochondrial and nuclear modifications indicative of reduced metabolic rate. This study demonstrates that GM soybean intake can influence some liver features" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18648843
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex-and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs."effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn." biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "this study was designed to evaluate the effects of transgenic corn on the rats that were fed through three generations with either GM corn or its conventional counterpart.""there were some minimal histopathological changes in liver and kidney. Changes in creatinine, total protein and globulin levels were also determined in biochemical analysis." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18191319
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "mice were fed a diet containing MON810 or its parental control maize or a pellet diet containing a GM-free maize""MON810 maize induced alterations in the percentage of T and B cells and of CD4(+), CD8(+), gammadeltaT, and alphabetaT subpopulations of weaning and old mice fed for 30 or 90 days, respectively, at the gut and peripheral sites. An increase of serum IL-6, IL-13, IL-12p70, and MIP-1beta after MON810 feeding was also found." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19007233
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "Atlantic salmon fed GM maize showed some small changes in stress protein levels and activities, but none of these changes were comparable to the normalized gene expression levels analysed for these stress proteins. GM maize seemed to induce significant changes in white blood cell populations which are associated with an immune response." onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2761.2007.00808.x/abstract
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "corn byproducts, such as pollen and detritus, enter headwater streams and are subject to storage, consumption, and transport to downstream water bodies.""feeding trials showed that consumption of Bt corn byproducts reduced growth and increased mortality of nontarget stream insects. Stream insects are important prey for aquatic and riparian predators, and widespread planting of Bt crops has unexpected ecosystem-scale consequences." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17923672
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "Plant residues of transgenic plants, plowed under at harvest and kept mixed with soil for up to 4 months, affected soil respiration, bacterial communities, and mycorrhizal establishment by indigenous endophytes." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/ PMC1287690/
"Our results show that transgenic crops expressing Cry1Ab protein at 5000 ppb may affect food consumption or learning processes and thereby may impact honey bee foraging efficiency." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18206234
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik "a 7-day oral exposure to the various treatments (transgenic, imidacloprid-treated and control), honey bee feeding behaviour was disturbed and bees consumed significantly less CCRI41 cotton pollen than in the control group in which bees were exposed to conventional cotton pollen. It may indicate an antifeedant effect of CCRI41 pollen on honey bees and thus bees may be at risk because of large areas are planted with transgenic Bt cotton" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20700762
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik Many GMO's are significantly different than their near isolines, come on, do you think high levels of cry proteins in Bt crops are really not inherently diferent than their near isolines? "Transgenic seeds responded differentially to the same environment as compared to their respective isogenic controls, as a result of the genome rearrangement derived from gene insertion." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18393457
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@michalchik The video asks for 3 phase studies used for testing drugs, which include testing on hundreds of human subjects to be applied to GMO food crops, compared to "The most detailed regulatory tests on the GMOs are three-month long feeding trials of laboratory rats, which are biochemically assessed. The tests are not compulsory, and are not independently conducted. The test data and the corresponding results are kept in secret by the companies." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20941377
myndy86 1 month ago in playlist Food Toxines GMO's
@myndy86 Basically you have proven what I and most scientists agree with. The herbacide round up and the pesticide BT are toxic. Do you have any evidence that transgenics not specifically designed to produce toxins are toxic? GM is not the problem it is poor screening for chemical contamination. You want to use the precautionary principle with herbicides and pesticides, I totally agree. BT should not be approved for use on organic food. Nor should nicotine or pyrethrins for that matter,
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik 52% of organic farmers use no pesticides whatsoever and those that do generallu use significantly less and more biological pest control like crop rotation, crop cover, predatory insects etc. than conventional. "organic produce carries significantly fewer pesticide residues than conventional produce." nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/faq/BuyOrganicFoodsC.shtml
Compared to 100% of Bt crops supposed to express cry proteins and likely 100% of HT crops sprayed with herbicides.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik You said, "Do you have any evidence that transgenics not specifically designed to produce toxins are toxic?" HT GM crops are not designed to produce toxins and I already provided evidence of adverse affects in animal feeding studies. HT and Bt are the most common varieties of GM crops and very little research has been done on GM papaya, squash, etc. varieties other than the initial 28-90 day rodent trial done by the biotech company themselves(a conflict of interest).
myndy86 1 month ago
@myndy86 Yes but they wind up laced with toxins because people pour toxins on them. Is that bad, yes. But the answer is to limit the toxins, not blame a technology that is not causing the problem. Its like blaming manufactures for drunk driving.
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik You are correct that HT crops are sprayed with toxins. However, what I mentioned earlier is that HT and Bt are the most common varieties and the most commonlt tested. GM papaya, squash, etc. have very few studies to even look at, so it's easy to say they don't have adverse health affects if there are only a few studies done and almost all of them were done by the manufacturer. Without adequate studies you can't rule out potential adverse affects caused from GM itself.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik Ultimately the people in this video would like the 3 phase trials used in human drug regulations to be used in GE food regulations. Considering the very limited regulatory testing for GE food(28-90 day rodent trials) you can't blame them for wanting more safety measures before GE crops are introduced there and used for human consumption. Science requires the precautionary principle to be used and GE foods are generally rushed into production without adequate testing.
myndy86 1 month ago
@myndy86 I am actually in favor of continued safety testing but requiring a full 3 phase study like is required for drugs is just not a reasonable response to the theoretical or evidential threats. Genetic changes very rarely lead to a dangerous new property in food. Would you or be in favor of 3 phase testing in each new breed or hybrid? When an organic farmer selected the healthiest plants for his next generation of crops should he use the PP? Those are all genetic changes.
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik Because we are not generally looking for the food to have a specific effect other than in examples like Golden Rice, Phase 2 would be eliminated for most GE foods, reducing the cost of the studies. It is because those same conventional breeding methods are already used for genetically modified crops, etc. and in addition to that recombinant DNA techniques, knockout genes, etc. are used, that additional testing is required.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik I can give at least one example of a GM crop that was not designed to be HT or produce a toxin that had a potential adverse affect ""IRDC reported gastric erosions in four of twenty female rats given CR3-623 FLAVR SAVR™ tomatoes, but not in rats in any other group." fda.gov/Food/Biotechnology/Submissions/ucm225043.htm#out6
Pathology Working Group actually found double that number.
However, these were only 28 day rodent studies done by the biotech company.
myndy86 1 month ago
@myndy86 I'll check it out.
michalchik 1 month ago
@myndy86 Sorry bad experiment. "Gross and microscopic gastric erosions were seen in male and female control rats dosed with dionized water, in male and female rats fed the non-transgenic tomato, and in female rats fed the transgenic tomato. The Sponsor's IRDC report concluded that the "[h]istomorphology and the pattern of incidence of the necrosis and erosion suggested that these lesions were incidental in nature and unrelated to the respective test articles". Appeared in control group too.
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik That is exactly my point. IRDC is a company that was paid by the biotech company to conduct the 3 studies , all 28 day rodent trials with 20 or less per group. One study found no gastric erosions. One of those studies found only the FlavrSavr tomato fed mice had gastric erosions. The third found gastric erosions in all groups. This inconsistency and the potential for the second study to be correct would warrant further studies but none were done.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik A meta analysis of the Pathology Working Groups data for the 3 studies would find 14 FlavrSavr fed rats had gastric lesions(and they had a smaller overall group size) compared to 11 for the Non transgenic tomato and control groups combined. This may not be statistically significant due to sample size but it needs further study. Another factor is that some different processes were used for some of the tomatoes in all 3 studies, as can be seen in the link.
myndy86 1 month ago
@michalchik According to Fred A. Hines D.V.M. Staff Toxicologic Pathologist "Calgene failed to adequately address in their response some of the major issues raised by the Pathology Branch (PB) relating to the conduct an interpretations of the studies." biointegrity"dotorg/FDAdocs/18/view2.html
According to Arpad Pusztai "Seven out of forty rats on GM tomatoes died within two weeks for unstated reasons." actionbioscience"dot"org/biotech/pusztai.html
myndy86 1 month ago
@myndy86 I agree additional studies in this case are warranted.
Are you sure you really know what is involved in a full 3 phase clinical trial especially when you are looking for a rare effect like cancer? we are talking about something like 25,000 dollars a person.
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik Even specific labeling(e.g. Bt11) would allow for doctors to much more easily link an illness, etc. to a specific GM food. It would allow for population studies, etc. Even if GM food regulations required an independent review panel to approve it like human drugs do, that wouldn't allow GM foods with inconsistent study results like with the FlavrSavr to be approved, without much more testing.
myndy86 1 month ago
@myndy86 OK, Those both sound like reasonable measures. I never bought the argument that GM products should not be labeled. I know that some people would avoid them because of irrational fears but that is their right. If there is a weird experimental result it needs to be investigated.
michalchik 1 month ago
@michalchik Unlike most varieties of conventionally bred food crops, where it is relatively easy to get materials and patents generally don't restrict independent research. GM foods generally can only be studied by researchers from Universities that have a deal with the manufacturer. It is also because of independent research restrictions, that GM regulatory testing be more thorough, unlike conventionally bred crops that are generally more easily tested by independent researchers.
myndy86 1 month ago
....Hawai'i ...very 'americanised...ie., hardly traditional and sadly very dull...sure there's great hotels...but that's NOT what most of us consider Hawai'i to be about ...it is as if the traditional soul has gone....in this presentation I feel your peaceful nature and your resistance....you must eradicate 'gmo' from your islands, gmo has no place here on Earth, nature is a far better designer...
miremax 2 months ago
mahalo ke akua for ViSalus, we got NON-GMO and itʻs LABELED! join the movement kakou!
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SideBangEnt 3 months ago
Monsanto is owned by Pfizer fyo. The verdict is out. Gmo's cause infertility, cancer, destruction of intestinal bacteria, and even death in animals. For those of you who believe the bio tech whores, get a clue. It's not about money anymore, it's about power over the food supply and control over the human population.
angelbe88 4 months ago
The GMO crops create gluten sensitivity by alternating the bacterial flora in the intestinal tract. I'm suffering from Morbus dermatitis herpetiformis Duhring - a sub-form of gluten sensitivity, that creates eczema that don't respond to common treatments. I hope that the people stand up against this criminal abuse of our nutritional resources. My way: I don't buy anything that is not fresh and not organic. I cook from scratch, Dry them out by not buying their GM crap
ullameyko 5 months ago in playlist Hawaiian Spirit
22:18 Mhmmm....
neekz808 5 months ago
Your average child/teen drinks more soda a day then water. And you wonder why our diabetes rates are rising? There is not a grain of evidence... All hearsay...
neekz808 5 months ago
These are probably the same "Eco Terrorists" who raped farmers papaya fields all over. Nature cross breeds and evolves everyday, you don't see anybody criticizing that? Lol we've already F^c%ed up our planet to the point were most usable plants wont grow where we need them... So why is working toward our own sustainability so bad? Imagine how many barrels of oil wouldnt be burned if we grew all our own food/fuel? But no it has to be "GMO Free" right?
neekz808 5 months ago
Wow, they don't allow snakes in Hawaii but GMO's are ok.
annmms 5 months ago
@annmms I own an ball python snake.
Wolfsbane909 5 months ago
Genes cross species in the natural world. It's rare for macro-organisms like corn & humans to have DNA exchanges. However virus and our own cells exchange DNA with some regularity. More interestingly we are made of more beneficial bacterial DNA than we are made of our own native DNA and these genes are changing and being exchanged much more rapidly.
Learning this tech has risk & reward.
People that can be impacted should have a say.
I worry about corp. track record when things are going bad.
ekpil2000 8 months ago
anything made by man causes destruction.... tooooooo bad...
micknacksrx 8 months ago
Where did your old video go on GMOs? I wanted to show that to a friend researching GMOs ...
SpiritedFang 10 months ago
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There will be a protest to get genetically engineered/modified organisms labeled in front of Long's streetside on Ka'ahumanu Ave in Kahului, Maui 8:00am - 11:00am on 3/26/11. Many other states are participating as well.
Please see the "Rally for the Right to Know" facebook page, for more info.
Petitions can be signed at the "organicconsumers" website.
Type "Millions Against Monsanto Campaign 2011" in the youtube search.
myndy86 10 months ago
well now! we found the voice of pinkey? 02:42 i been wodering who did the voice of pinkey
gell7 10 months ago
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There will be protests regarding genetic engineering/modification in front of Long's streetside on Ka'ahumanu Ave in Kahului, Maui 8:00am - 11:00am on 3/26/11. Many other states are participating as well.
Please see the "Rally for the Right to Know" facebook page, for more info.
Petitions can be signed at the "organicconsumers" website.
myndy86 10 months ago
All you Libtard Dumbshits elected Obama (based on hope)who in turn let the farm bill be written by Monsanto?? double stupid.
davetileguy 10 months ago
Soo we don't live longer than ever before? wow I'm confused, so more 80 and 90 year olds die from cancer because we live longer than ever?
davetileguy 10 months ago
@davetileguy I think the statistics are absolutely failed, people who was born in a different world from 70-100 years ago are the ones who reach those ages, we are seen more and more poeple dying less than 60 years old dying from cancer and from brain strokes even younger, and we can not know wich will be the average of life expectative for the actualy born generation...
graysight 8 months ago
There is someone saying that genes do not cross between species normally in nature. Gene transfer between species is a well recognised phenomenon. Japanese people haven a gene that breaks down agarose(is in seaweed they eat). This gene was acquired from bacteria from seaweed. Are many more e.g.s. 2. The drug trial mentioned involved injecting the subjects. Eating it would not cause the same effects. No problem with the technology. Problem is the power of the big biotech companies/capitalism
popopeoepo 10 months ago
@popopeoepo it depends on which information one is eager to believe I think, all data can be manipulaten in any form if exist the intention to do it, just see obama saying there was a fire fight, and days later no fire fight existed
graysight 8 months ago
There is someone saying that genes do not cross between species normally in nature. Gene transfer between species is a well recognised phenomenon. Japanese people haven a gene that breaks down agarose(is in seaweed they eat). This gene was acquired from bacteria from seaweed. Are many more e.g.s. 2. The drug trial mentioned involved injecting the subjects. Eating it would not cause the same effects. No problem with the technology. Problem is the power of the big biotech companies/capitalism
popopeoepo 10 months ago
Good work. Thank you for the information. Keep up the good work! Say NO to GMOs and NO to pesticides!
Runningbareco 11 months ago 3
Yummy.. gimme some pure natural Hawaiian coffee.
I bet it tastes great!
CrazyTacky 1 year ago
No more biodiversity!? thats so true. :(
SkinnyThiago 1 year ago
These big corporations are designed to produce diseases,and sicknesses within human beings. These designs are malice against humanity..and this is their agenda for many, many years. Welcome back to Germany...and the dire humanity holocaust and genocide...
Winterrain44 1 year ago
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voglbop 1 year ago
Let me know when you need funding for your activism.
MMIUK1984 1 year ago
23:35 I am crying with you....And I am not even Hawaiin ; (
mynor4596 1 year ago
GMO's ... Boooooooooooooo
Serious stuff that we should all be taking in, turn away at your peril.
Thumbs Up.
Peace.
netlethe 1 year ago
Do as the people in France, tear up and destroy the fields!
sweettina2 1 year ago
"unintended health risks" my ass... and how can that affect even be made?! if anything, it's intended to soft-kill & therefore totally intended.
GOTU62 1 year ago
@GOTU62 Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence, or in this case, disregard. Corporations don't intentionally seek to kill off their customer base and potential future sources of low-cost labor, they just have a monumentally short-sighted approach where the ultimate objective is to make as much money as possible. All other concerns are secondary. Their religion is Capitalism, their god is the Invisible Hand of the Market, and they are fundamentalists.
yerk3 1 year ago 4
@yerk3 no they are looking long term but in the short term people have to suffer read 'the prince'
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@ollieflp They aren't looking at the long term, and that's obvious. If they were, they would be taking precautions to make sure that their customers had enough money to pay them in the future, and make sure that their workers had enough health to provide their labor. Poor people can't buy your products, and dead people can't stock your shelves.
yerk3 2 weeks ago
@yerk3 The simply fact of the matter is if theres going to be no market for it these companies wouldn't do it, its not being done to make money and like it was said in the video these people of Hawaii are being used as guinea pigs just like pharmaceutical companies do when they pay people to do clinical trials.
ollieflp 2 weeks ago
@ollieflp You are vastly overestimating these CEOs' ability to look into the future. Their entire business model is geared towards amassing the biggest quantity of money now. The entire modus operandi has the ability to conceptualize maybe a year into the future, everything after that is purely hypothetical from their angle, and therefore not worth considering. They will bend nature and the law for their gains in the here and now, the future is just some other time.
yerk3 2 weeks ago
@ollieflp "Not being done to make money?" Of course it is! Everything a corporation does is to make money. That is its reason to exist: to make as much money as possible this year and the next. If they wanted to do trials, they would just do trials, they would go the legal route, and if there wasn't a legal route, they would manipulate the law to make one. Massive corporations don't need to be sneaky, they can afford not to.
yerk3 2 weeks ago
@yerk3 nah youve got me wrong dont worry about it im no longer interest. thanks
ollieflp 2 weeks ago
wonder who the 33 thumbs down was from??
lilmissheidi 1 year ago
so grow some nads like France and destroy the fields, we have no one to blame for this horrible thing than ourselves, we get what we deserve i'm afraid =(
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gachviet 1 year ago
just burn them off the island. chop and burn all there crops.
teamgrn 1 year ago
While it may or may not be true that GMO foods are bad for you why stop there? Let's spread the blame around a bit. Cell phones and their wireless land line relatives, laptop computers, large screen flat tv's, high tech automobiles, computers, and all the other conveniences of modern life. Let's get rid of them all. After all, life was much better in the stone age!
Farmerjohnist 1 year ago
@Farmerjohnist the 'all or nothing' angle.Now thats a stone age mindset.
MultiJacob17 10 months ago
Regarding so-called terminator genes, they already exist without the aid of GMO. They are called hybrids. Seeds from so-called "terminator genes" can, if one were inclined to do so, be planted and will grow. They will not give you a true to type plant. This is exactly what happens with hybrids. If we are against GMO then we must be against hybrids as well!
Farmerjohnist 1 year ago
@Farmerjohnist What about a slow process of two different seeds, growing in the same field? I don't agree with forcing NATURE ya know, that thing we're all made from that we constantly take for granted? I mean, it's been around a LOT longer then us, I think it knows a hell of a lot better us - GMO's are F-ed up, period It's not precise, it's not natural and it has bad side effects Just cuz you don't sprout cancer or become infertile in a few days, doesn't mean it's not slowly mutating you
z90OoAluYsioNoO09z 1 year ago 2
GMO food will destroy the worlds food.. they plan to irradicate all natural food sources and seeds.. boycott the corps, gmos and monsanto..! campaign to remove gmo testing and at least for GM labelling..
SovereignBeing 1 year ago
Watch the You Tube video..'The Future of Food' to learn how criminal Corporations like Monsanto are exploiting farmers and people.
halopa246 1 year ago
Watch the video 'Food Inc' and many other videos on the net to learn what the devastating ramifications of GMO crops will have on people and the planet. Farmers of the world are being turned into debt slaves by these companies and we we the public are research guinea pigs who will pay the ultimate price in poor health,even death in order that the Monsanto's of the world not lose one dollar of business/profit. Also watch " Sweet Misery' and other videos to learn that aspartame in diet soda kills.
halopa246 1 year ago
GMO is about population control. Yes! that is right. The wealthy elite of this world are funding research on GMO staple crops around the world which will be cross pollinated with indigenous plants just by being within mere miles of them. Then non GMO, organic plants will become GMO plants which of course you wont be allowed to grow because the Monsanto's' of the world hold the patent on those GMO seeds and they will force you to pay one way or another. Control the seed...control the population!
halopa246 1 year ago
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TOMP66666 1 year ago
Lol..the future of mankind. I on the other hand am excited for mankind progressing...Having technology available to do such things? To comprehend the mind of god! amaZing is it not? but we must know our limits as humans...thats why we test on hawiians! lmao
macmerith 1 year ago
fuck i pay a few more cents for organic, GMOs suck. ownership of organisms & kife form thats fucked up. natural is soo much better anyways, strawberries are a good example of organic vs gmo.
poor hawians...
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago 2
it all goes back to one thing. the american occupation has to end so we can fix everything they destroyed and stop them from destroying anything further. their occupation of our government is making it nearly impossible to defend ourselves from them. genetic piracy, legal genocide, desecration of land and culture, desecration of the bodies and bones of our elders. it never ends, and they work so hard to keep everyone else from hearing about it.
Hawaiianstile 1 year ago
yes, GMO's suck, but it doesn't mean the govenment wants to kill us....
educate the government
squirrelsarecute7 1 year ago
What the hell?
Poor Hawaii. :(
Stupid people.
iCraacked 2 years ago
If viewing this video on GMOs makes you angry and you'd like to do something about it, join with the rest of the world on May 31, 2010 in a national and international protest against against GMOs! This will take place on memorial day weekend on the Mall in Washington DC and on a larger global scale.
Michelle9555 2 years ago 3
over nine billion mouths to feed by 2050, we're gonna need more living space, more chopping of the rainforest for paper and other wooden shit, more overfishing, more cars driving down air quality, more species going extinct. earth is our only home and we're not taking care of it, we're crowding it up. we're not capable colonizing space anytime soon. wTF can we do? ps i hate the idea of this fucking cat. he/she SHOULD do a video on the east boston cat that got called to jury duty though, lol
welcomegohome 2 years ago
It makes me mad to hear all the stories of agribusiness. 2010 looks to be the tipping point. nonGMOproject has been introduced where labels will start appearing on nonGMO food. Consumers are getting more educated and countries from Ireland to Japan to Egypt have banned GMOs.
go to nongmoproject(dot)org
see "the world according to monsanto"
AND VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET! Buy organic, ask questions, buy nongmoproject labeled food.
theegapman 2 years ago
@theegapman I agree, unfortunately, you can't buy organic everywhere.
brokendave 2 years ago
frankenfood,frankenfood,frankenfood! Get it through your thick, fucking skulls! Type II diabetes, cancer, heart/stroke problems, MS and other neurological diseases, Alzheimer and similar diseases - all of these and more, continue to rise because greedy corporations with no conscience want to play GOD! Anyone who isn't fighting against these corporations, is supporting them! No one has the right to patent LIFE! It doesn't get any simpler than that.
RandyBful1 2 years ago 2
GMO not Pono
malama aina
not....fuk up aina
Mr44hoku 2 years ago
So they're cheering that the university gave up the patent. What did they do, sell the patent to Monsanto? How much?
waltermouthoh 2 years ago
Man I'm sure glad I don't work for Monsanto! I'd be afraid of walking out my house and being killed. If I worked for Monsanto I'd be afraid of being shoved into a car and taken somewhere and tortured, and if I'm lucky they'd kill me. And what about my family? There's no way I'd work for Monsanto, no way, not ethically or any way. And if I were a lawyer or politician for Monsanto I'd be triply afraid! You sure wouldn't find me doin' any deals with Monsanto. No way. good site is soisnessdotorg.
waltermouthoh 2 years ago
fuck GMO's. right now the company thats doing it on Hawaii on Molokai is the same company the made "Agent Orange" all thats shit they put in the plants to test the food goes into the ground and goes into the water source. all these companies should feed these fucken foods to there kids and see what happens.
bambooman36 2 years ago 2
@bambooman36 agent orange u serious?
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
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They are building on ancient techniques using their own land, in order to feed the hungry people of this world. There are always risks, but genetic engineering has saved millions of lives and the benefits far outweigh the costs, which can be controlled for now and improved over time.
This video is very, very biased and does not show the whole story at all!
johnluvsluna 2 years ago
who do you work for ? people don't want
frankenfood ,do the maths !!!!!
gekkkehuis 2 years ago 13
Waving around words like "frankenfood" does not encourage me to believe you have any idea what you are talking about. You eat genetically modified foods, so does everyone. If they don't want it then they will have to starve: all cultivated and domesticated food has been genetically modified since before the pyramids were built. I work for Bill Jones, you know him? He rescues owls. Who do you work for?
johnluvsluna 2 years ago
Actually... i would like for people to stop being paranoid little children... Branding something as being unnatural and thus should be banned and avoided without looking into it is pathetic. "Frankenfood" how is that a levelheaded label?
When do we get to go after gays for being natural? for contaminating our school systems? When do we go after camera manufacturers for creating devices that steal our souls?
WiPTornado 2 years ago
It has been shown that since GMO foods have hit the market that deadly illnesses like cancer has dramatically increased. Foreign countries require all GMO foods to be labeled as such and those foods aren't high in demand in those countries. The US doesn't require any labeling of GMO foods and actually is attacking farmers that don't use the pesticides made by companies like Monsanto. GMO food is poison.
pitbrand 2 years ago 32
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Your reasoning that the increase of cancer is caused by GMO is ridiculous because for one their are too so many causes for cancer that it would be ridiculous to blame it on GMO foods and GMO's have been going on for ages. Farmers domesticated animals and they chose the best traits for animals a form of genetic modification.
ExorbitClamp 2 years ago
There is a difference between using the best of a species to get what you want versus injecting foreign genes into another life to hopefully get what you want. It's not my claims, it is researched fact that since GMO foods have been allowed into the food supply the rate of cancer has gone up. There are videos online of people that live close to Monsanto plants that have very high levels of PCB's in their system that is causing them problems. We also have a problem that our bees are dying off.
pitbrand 2 years ago 4
@pitbrand well I am eating a lot of poison because 95% of what I eat is GMOS.
Sucks Brah.
Bigpimpof808 1 year ago
johnluvsiuna; you and people like you are puppets (or you work for Monsanto) and are useless to society! There are many more people starving in the world BECAUSE of GMOs...ever heard of research, or is it beyond your basic comprehension? You obviously didn't understand ANYTHING that was said in that video. This is the largest EXPERIMENT - EVER and no one can predict the long term ramifications of it! Nothing good will EVER come of this. Drugs and bacteria in the plants is totally insane!
RandyBful1 2 years ago
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I'm from Hawaii. GMOs are not all bad. Take the evolution of transportation, primitive humans made do with horses, but now we happily use far better and cheaper (relative to income) cars - of course there's the issue of car safety and pollution, and that must be worked on, but it's not a reason to not use cars at all.
Cars kill over a million people worldwide a year, are you willing to give up your car? GMO's purported negative effects, even the most extreme, pale in comparison.
MadPutz 2 years ago
does anyone know where I can ge the proper citation of this film?
r4small1 2 years ago
much respect for your work
janoska667 2 years ago
The patents are already a done deal...check out the film The Future of Food, which can be seen online.
I am grateful for this documentary and it has motivated me to make a modest donation to Earth Justice or the local Hawai'i Island Seed Exchange.
Monsanto is the devil.
mizmaritza 2 years ago
Genetic engineering has been done for centuries through artificial selection. The only real difference here is that the modification takes less time and is less haphazard.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
centuries ago we did not have the means to manipulate the genes at the mollecular level.......wake up.......
IloveFajr 2 years ago
Which meant that we couldn't select for the traits we wanted without causing problems for the animal/crop we were manipulating. There were also some traits which couldn't be selected for at all.
With this new genetic modification we could create nitrogen fixing crops which would reduce the amount of fertilizer (and thus energy) needed to grow food or biofuel.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
man has NO RIGHT to manipulate anything...
IloveFajr 2 years ago
So destroy your computer and get off the internet. You're manipulating vast quantities of electrons and photons in order to send your messages. Your computer contains polymers created by the manipulation of hydrocarbons, metals extracted through manipulation of metal oxides, you eat food extracted from crops which have been manipulated over millenia. Genetic modification could provide cheap food and fuel for billions of people.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
go show off elsewhere im not impressed......
you eat the cheap gmo food...perhaps it will put some sense into you...
IloveFajr 2 years ago
Do you have an alternate solution to world hunger?
It's worth noting that Genetically modified bacteria/fungi are already used to produce certain hormones or proteins which cannot be produced cheaply otherwise.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
how about stop wasting,stop the hate, stop bowing to the rich at the expense of the poor, how about stopping the rulers from opressing their people for their own benefit..
OR...
we can learn how to care a little more for others...if we all give 2% of our earnings every year there would be no hunger left in the world....monsanto/usa is using gmo,s to control who eat and at what price.....IMMORAL...EVIL....DISGUSTING....DID I MENTION EVIL...?
TO MUCH GREED IN THIS WORLD..
wont you agree..?
IloveFajr 2 years ago
How exactly can GMOs control who eats food? That doesn't make sense; they are just used to increase crop yields and thus allow competing businesses to sell food at a lower price. In what way does cutting crop yields help the poor? And why cut down consumption when GMOs do not require as much fertilizer or land to produce a large quantity of food?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
WhyCantIVote
i can see that truly you do not have a clue what monsanto, gmo,s and patent of the seed along with everything else is all about....
its not about making a better product to feed the world, but is about control of crops,genes,and so on...
you really should look into monsanto and the patent of....everything...
you have the patent...you have control....and you will eat....if they let you and if you can pay plenty for it..
monsanto manipulate the genes for one reason...control..
IloveFajr 2 years ago
No; it's about making money and the best way to do that is to reduce production costs because that means you can lower prices to beat your competitor.
Patent laws are a problem caused by government which shouldn't exist in the first place. If patent laws are the issue then they should be the focus of this video instead of GMOs.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
Actually they already have created the terminator gene which renders a sterile seed. Then there's the cheat gene (that's what they call it) that works in conjunction w/ the terminator gene & that the cheat gene doesn't produce a seed until a chemical is sprayed on, then the plant produces the seed but the terminator gene kicks in. But worse, if it is spread via bees/birds, etc., we can see plant life ending w/o artificially propagating them.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
But the plants with those genes won't reproduce and so they won't be propagated. Evolution will ensure that plant species in nature remain resilient. It's also possible to negate terminator genes by altering the structure of the chromosomes of genetically altered plant embryos (thereby ensuring they can only reproduce with similar GM plants).
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
The terminator one will produce seeds, it just won't be sterile, but that doesn't mean that nature cannot cross polinate those genes w/ everything else. But the fact is, they didn't gnegate the terminator genes. Remember, none of these have been tested to see the long term effects.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
But unless some evolutionary advantage is offered by the presence of terminator genes they won't be prevailent for many generations.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
Which is another problem. The unknown. Which is what the guy who worked @ the Dept. of Health in this video mentioned, how testing would allow to see the harmful effects. unfortunately b/c it's unknown, it may happen not until many generations, or even sooner. There is no guarantee, but most importantly which is a sensitive issue to all & the reason why it's banned in 50 countries, there is no evidence that supports otherwise.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
But evolutionary effects can be tested for many generations relatively quickly especially with GMOs modified to grow faster. And this "terminator" gene is not the only aspect of genetic modification to consider
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
Correct, this gene isn't the aspect of GMO, just that I used that example to your response. But the fact is they ARE NOT testing the effects. That is why people & all these testimonies come out b/c they neglect to do that, yet the FDA allows it. But there's a reason for that too.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
But don't they need to test the effects to ensure a high crop yield? If they accidently created a gene which renders crops inefficient then wouldn't that risk their entire harvest?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
No, the terminator gene wasn't an accident. It's purpose was to make the seed sterile so that it wouldn't produce.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
Isn't that counter productive?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
I believe that's why that other person mentioned control or something like that where they get you to go back to the companies (mentioned in the video) in order to get more seeds.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
But why wouldn't you keep your own supply of seeds? Why buy seeds from a company if they contain the terminator gene?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
That's a good question. But most importantly, how much of it is known that the terminator gene is in there? From evidence, or rather personal testimony alone, most of it is NOT labeled & as they pursued to require them to have labels, they can still have products w/o warning the public about labeling. This was also covered in the movie - FOOD, INC. So it's not so much that people would purposely buy that, just that they may not know about it.
hnlmkk 2 years ago 3
But if they buy seeds from one source and a significant percentage fail to germinate why would they go back to that same source? And how would that help the companies reputation.
Furthermore wouldn't it cost a lot of money to alter every seed embryo to give it the terminator gene?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
Not sure what you mean by alter seeds to give the terminator gene. B/c the way I understood it, that seed has the gene already & it is to be marketed.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
And the other issue which was mentioned in this video as well as the movie FOOD, INC. is that nature has it's own way of continuing life & that's through birds & insects & once that terminator pollen makes it to another plant, as that consultant said, that gene is dominant, it's in the pool of other genes & you can't take it out once it spreads.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
How could a gene which kills seeds possibly spread?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
The gene makes the seed sterile. It spreads via pollen b/c gene can be found in the cells of living organism. That means in the leaf, the stem, the pollen, etc. This is why they made the video to warn people of its effects. You should check it out, it's very informative & they pretty much explain it in a good layman's term.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
But how can the seeds grow into plants to produce pollen if the gene prevents seeds from growing in the first place?
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
It seems they already have plants w/ the genes to produce seeds that are sterile. Not the plant is sterile but the seeds are. I think it's w/in the first 20mins. of the film as they talk more of the whole gene make up in general & how it is attached to the cell, or I could be wrong abt that part & may have seen it elsewhere. You'll have to google abt that part.
hnlmkk 2 years ago
@WhyCantIVote I read you comments, you seem to be the only one debating the our side of agruement here, why is everyone falling for this propaganda are they too lazy to look at the evidence...have they not realise that the plant food they are eating are millions of years in the making.
oneill1james 1 year ago
These big companies will soon make patents for these GMOS. & how on earth we have patents on plants!!! thats b*llshit..
dzuls1979 2 years ago
Excellent vid. Just got back from O'ahu last weekend.
bj616 2 years ago
Hell, we might make some Ninja Turtles!
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Like the guy at 7:40 said. "They're making Monsters".
Just like Resident Evil.
OH yeah.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
This is biased..
Akkin3 2 years ago
20:18 "multiple organ failure" explain that please...
vegism 2 years ago
EXCELLENT and INTERESTING.
Lagolop 2 years ago
I know I would like GMOs to be labeled. =(
PerianArdocyl 2 years ago
Yes but I wnt post it on utube.
Enuamanu08 2 years ago
Ice Nine.
So it goes.
(Vonnegut)
They know exactly what will happen. Thank you for bringing this forth.
makethemaccountable 2 years ago