Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru EP7 BGM - 黄泉津比良坂Corruption

[houndoom1234]

I'm sure things would have been the same if he had found the gold. Rudolftrice

[TheLOLAcademy136]

Why does real life follow the rules of writing murder mysteries?

[BloodSportA2]

@TheLOLAcademy136 It doesn't. That's why we don't know what really happened and only get a mixture of fantasies and mysteries.

[vickiemadhead]

Pimp Rudolf!

[gabygabi007]

Don't even know that anime, but damn this song is good...

[latiaos11]

@gabygabi007 The anime is shit, but the visual novel, it's the nectar of life

[Theespada13]

@latiaos11 The anime is like, 1/100th of the visual novel. In both quality and actual storyline.

[Anhiksi]

Wow... its been already this long since EP7 came out huhhuh, hated this part yet its 1 of the best in EP7 dang

[mhartsfi]

Sorry for triple posting here, but just remembered something. //RED// Van Dine's 12th: There can only be one culprit. //END RED// Just something to think about.....

[digitalpiggy193]

@mhartsfi [/red] however, the culprit is allowed a minor helper[/red] [/blue] rudolph only commited one murder, and didnt think of any plan or anything, therefore, he can be considered a helper [/blue]. umineko changed the rules around a bit :P. van dine's are a bit more flimsey... also i hate them because some like a servant cant be the culprit are just plain dumb. why cant they? just because its overused/suspected doesnt mean a servant is incapable of murder >.>

[alfred4king]

@digitalpiggy193 Like Knox's rules Van Dine's are old and are only open to interpretation so what I believe it should be translated into "It can't be the most suspectible"

[mhartsfi]

You know, I think everyone i forgetting a key factor in the Kyrie/Rudolf culprit debate. The riddle being solved gave them the gold, yes, but it was the "clock" that gave them the means....without that knowledge, would they have committed the act? //BLUE// In the 3rd game, there was no "Beatrice" waiting for Eva and Rosa, nor were they informed of the clock. One can claim b this that the clock is the catalyst, not the gold.//END BLUE//

[latiaos11]

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[Asgard314]

O_O I was just spoiled... Wasn't I? Please don't answer me...

[digitalpiggy193]

@Asgard314 somewhat.

/red if the epitaph of the riddle is solved, rudolph and kyrie have a chance to be the culprits. /red

however

/red it is impossible for rudolph or kyrie to be the culprits if the riddle is unsolved /red

also, just to throw it in there

/red even though rudolph and kyrie are the culprits in select games, they are not the only ones responsible for the deaths of all the people /red

in short what i'm getting at is there may be another culprit :P

[Asgard314]

@digitalpiggy193 I actually read ep 5-1/2 of 8, so yeah... I wasn't spoiled. ^_^ It was a nice fake-out though, and thanks for telling me.

[preoklenthe]

@digitalpiggy193 Only read until 7 but

[blue]They are not the responible of all people's death because they can be not responsible of their own death[/blue]

Also:

[blue]How can we be sure that the riddle can not be solved? It is possible that in all the fragments the riddle is solved[/blue]

And one more:

[blue]What if the chance for Rudolph and Kyrie to be the culprits if the riddle is solved is a probability of 100%? This way we could assure that Kyrie and Rudolph are always the culprits[/blue]

[digitalpiggy193]

@preoklenthe /red in the first, second, and fourth games the riddle was unsolved /red (to the 2nd one)

/red read the end of ep 7 /red (to the first one)

/red rudolph and kyrie will not kill unless people have already died and the gold is found /red

[digitalpiggy193]

@preoklenthe well i gues si shld clarify my red. first ones fine, 2nd red /red end of ep 7 explaisn their death /red and as for the 3rd that red still does't work... let's do it this way.. hm... i guess a devil's proof will be besst here /blue because you cannot prove that kyrie and rudolph are the culpritseach time the riddle is solved, you cannot rule that if the riddle is slved there is a chance they are not the culprits /blue

[preoklenthe]

@digitalpiggy193 Excuse me, when I said until 7 i meant inclusive.

[blue]Is it possible that the games which the riddle is not solved are impossible. It can be that the only possible outcomes were the ones that Bernkastel shown[/blue]

[blue]Is possible that people died in accidents, allowing R&K to kill.[/blue]

And for your blue I'll repeat what Bernkastel said in the one that she had shown. [red]This is all truth[/red][blue]Which assure my theory that only they can be culprits[/blue]

[digitalpiggy193]

@preoklenthe

/red /blue can you show evidence of game 3 not being a possibility? if not then that game can exist as a possiblity /blue

/blue what if people did not die in accidents and the riddle was solved? /blue

/blue bernkastel wasn't finished with her red when ange interrupted, therefore it is entirely possible she said "this is all the truth i wanted to show to you" and still withhold info /blue

[Meister9Neo]

@digitalpiggy193 not just possible... [red] in ep8 it was confirmed, that ange interupted her. [/red]

[mhartsfi]

@digitalpiggy193 Remember, Devil's Proofs result in a stalemate. That's why the red doesn't need proof.

[NightxofxDarkrai]

So...Rudolf and Kyrie went homicidal on everyone after Battler died?

[theIEndYOU]

@NightxofxDarkrai No, they needed money. They couldn't settle things by negotiation, so when the gold was found; they killed everyone. Battler was roaming around after Eva killed Rudolf, so there is nothing hinting that Battler died in the EP7 tea party. And it's more than likely that he never really died on the island because of EP8.

[NightxofxDarkrai]

@theIEndYOU ah thanks since this had me kinda confused since this arc really doesn't make hat much sense to me :P

[Sereniama]

Better song for this:

Trolololol.mp3

[mLn109]

is it safe to say he's the BEST UNCLE EVER?

[garoslaw]

@mLn109 As much as Kurie the b- *shot*

Maybe.

[garoslaw]

@garoslaw Kyrie the best- *shot*

No bad images.

[Sagemaster00]

@mLn109 As much as Rosa is the best mother ever XD.

[mLn109]

i felt sorry for rudolf when battler died in ep6.

damnit ryukishi

[Meister9Neo]

he didn't die... he just faked his dead. otherwise battler couldnt "disappear" from the guestroom.

[Hokotoro]

Wait, why you call Shannon - Sayo, but you don't call Kanon - Yoshiya? :D Sexists :d

[YamiAura]

@Hokotoro Because Yoshiya is fucking made up, while Sayo is probably the name she actually has.

[cronnoponno]

At least Rudolph died like a man in this episode. Seriously, he made the most memorial quote after dying. ''No...in all good westerns, the bad guys bullet always misses...-dies-''. Seriously,what is Rudolphs game? He seems to be hiding the most out of every character in this entire novel. Plus, Kyrie died so symbolically. After getting Asumu to die in a way that ''wouldn't get her hands dirty''. The same chance happened for Eva, who suffers just as much. This ep was..

[jirachirulez]

i'm abit confused as to who is who.. Lion is a boy.... Lion is Yasu.... Yasu is Beato.... but Shannon is also kannon....Shannon also loves Battler, Beatrice loves Battler... so....and Shannon Didn't wig out when Lion was in the same room as Shannon. someone please fill me in... is Beatrice a boy or a girl? cuz i have no clue any more @A@;;;;

[Anhiksi]

@jirachirulez Illusion of the golden witch

[latiaos11]

@jirachirulez dont try to understand it :/ ur just going to het a headache

Wise Will~

[Kyaksa]

@jirachirulez Because Lion is an alterative Yasu... If Yasu was accepted by Nastuhi-san than Lion is Lion, But Yasu is just an alterantive Lion (which mean their appearnce are differrent)... Plus Bern-chan put everything in one room.

[willardhwright]

@jirachirulez Basically, ep7's world is composed of many kakera.

The only Shkannon explaination for Shannon not Crashing with Lion would be that Shannon and Kanon are from one kakera, Lion from another. And the world is only composed with two kakeras. (which is never said in the story, they say that it is composed with "multiple" kakeras.

That's the only thing you can use in order to make sense of it with Shkannon. the fact that Shannon would be able to bring Kanon is even strangest.

[willardhwright]

@willardhwright (personally, I'm heading toward a non-Shkannon explaination; it is possible, but quite complicated)

By the way, for Beatrice's sex, well... we don't know, even after ep8. Schoedinger's penis, just like Zepar and Furfur.

[narutardkyuubi]

@willardhwright It would be possible for Shannon to 'bring' Kanon if you see them as two personalities. Shanon would switch to Kanon's mindset and if Will pressured for Shannon, Kanon would start blue screening. Well, that's just what I figured, I thought that's why Will gave up, since it would be useless. Also, I was playing chess with my brother, when I realized something. Originally, there were 18 people, Kinzo is dead, and if you replace Kanon and Shanon with Yasu, you get 16, like in chess.

[willardhwright]

@narutardkyuubi There is also something about this in the ??? of ep6 (the chess thing), but it's even more confusing than this.

And well, Will wanted to meet them both in the same time, which is supposed to be impossible. Because Shannon "was not able to ask the one giving the orders". After Yasu's backstory, it feels... Strange.

But yeah, the chess analogy is really, really interresting, I used it for my nekotrice theory too.

[narutardkyuubi]

@willardhwright Yeah, everything felt strange after Ep.7. Ryukishi wasn't trolling us when he said Ep.7 was going to be merciless, but I'm glad it brought in a lot of information. I'm still wondering what Willard wanted to talk to Maria about. He asked her about Mariage Sorciere(sp?) but she clammed up and walked off, a bit strange since she's willing to talk about magic all day long. I figure it would cause another blue screening if he pressed her though.

[cronnoponno]

@narutardkyuubi

My guess is that, Bernkastel is the game master. Pieces are only capable of performing what their master can do, Bernkastel most likely didn't know what Mariage Sorcierie was, only Beatrice's gang knew. A piece of Bernkastels couldn't possibly explain it. Will even said himself something like ''So she moved her piece...''.

[narutardkyuubi]

@cronnoponno I see, yeah, that'd make sense. Beato always tried to make the pieces act in-character as much as she could, Bern probably could care less. Hmm, if you accept the Shkanontrice theory, I guess that means Yasu is pretty much inspired by Kohaku from Tsukihime. It'd make sense, since Ryukishi is a fan. Still, I feel as if Ep.7 was pushing towards Yasu being the murderer, but I still see very little point in doing so. Then again, if Yasu really is inspired by Kohaku...

[cronnoponno]

@narutardkyuubi

Everything's still very confusing to me, but I think that Bernkastel's truth about Lion being shot is false. Lion was obviously pulled into a fragment that had nothing to do with her, the pieces barely even knew her. Episode 7TP was said to have no master, but from what Bernkastel said it seemed like she was implying that there were many theatregoing witches waiting for a climactic ending, maybe that's us, the readers? We're tearing the guts of the novel apart for mere theories.

[cronnoponno]

@narutardkyuubi

I could reason so much better if I could understand the mechanics of the world-switching constantly being done. I can't tell if the ''Meta World'' side of the story is just some delusion from a magical perspective, or if it's really supernatural beings of a higher plane debating over dimensions for laughs. Because if I was Battler, I'd have stopped denying witches the second I got warped into a magical room that allowed me to view things from a readers perspective.

[narutardkyuubi]

@cronnoponno The world-switching merely provides additional clues for the reader, as well as a magical subplot, that would be pretty difficult to do otherwise. If you look at the gameboard alone, without the Game Master nor the Meta-World, it might make things harder without the red text. Don't think too much on the Meta-World, it's magic. Focus on the mystery. Well, that's what I keep on telling myself.

[cronnoponno]

@narutardkyuubi

Yeah, not that I disagree with what you say. But any and all answers I get to the meta-world from other readers is that it's something that they don't have 100% proof to, I guess Ryu hit the block right. I guess I'm just trying to get a crutch to thinking before I try out any serious reasoning. I think there has to be a stronger meaning to the Meta World. It can't just be there for information, or a plot that isn't real. But your view also seems logical....dammit lol.

[narutardkyuubi]

@cronnoponno Hmm, well, I still believe that the Meta-World can provide hints and clues in some form. Battler reached the truth at the end of Ep.5, so that means that it's possible to solve using just Ep.1-4. Knox's 8th guarantees that. Even if Knox may not technically apply, the nature of the rules, that this is a fair mystery that can be solved with reasoning must apply, because Beatrice wanted Battler to solve it. Well, if you completely ignore the Meta-World, even the mystery disappears.

[cronnoponno]

@narutardkyuubi

I'm quite sure that the Meta-World was where Ryu could throw in his philosophies and clues to help the readers relationship to the novel, I certainly agree with you on that. But there has to be SOMETHING else about it, I mean, if Umineko is in the same universe as Higurashi, SOME supernatural stuff had to have been happening, even if the pieces can't see it. Episode 6 would have been almost pointless, other than simply helping us realize the screwery between Kannon and Sayo.

[shadowleraja]

if you haven't read the novels yet, this is one of the greatest spoilers that you'll recieve in umineko xD

[latiaos11]

@shadowleraja soooooooooooooooooooooooooo trueeee

[bananacrunch90]

1:28 reminds me of final fantasy :>

[ITISJOHN]

lol George.

[einhorn303]

lol George.

[32121452145225255658]

@SGFK

acutallly what she says is

"this is all truth-"

the rest is obscured by ange screaming

"noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­ooo"

also jesica died to this song too, dont forget about her

[xErikaFurudox]

I honestly hope it doesn't have a happy ending. Because if they think "LAWL A FRAGMENT WITH A HAPPY ENDING LIKE HIGURASHI!! LAAAAWLLLL DERP HERP DERP!" of course the ending's gonna be ruined because they'll think everyone will survive; WELL NO! GODDAMN NO! BAD ENDING NAO!

[LastSoul1234]

Hey does anybody know when the ENGLISH version comes out? I have my theorys for the first four episodes with George/Shannon ....

[BernkastelSan]

"This is the truth of-"

[SFGK]

@BernkastelSan Hahahahha that's what Bernkastel said, but is IT? or just one of the many possibilities?

[BernkastelSan]

@SFGK

I personally think it's the truth.

How much fun would it be if Kyrie and Rudolf really were the masterminds behind everything?

Such a great plot twist.... *giggle*giggle*

[SFGK]

@BernkastelSan NOOOO! I HAVE BEEN DEEPLY MINDFUCKED!!! *cackle* *cackle* cackle* Now we all need a good ending like Higurashi, where at least one of the fragments, not some made up tale, manages to vanquish their doomed fates and have a good end. Even though Bern and Lambda are being bitchy and they procclaimed in red, "this will not have a happy ending" D:

[BernkastelSan]

@SFGK

Happy Endings are so boring and expected.

You need something bittersweet to liven things up.

[SFGK]

@BernkastelSan True that, at least one where only the cousins, Shannon and Kanon survive would be nice XD

[BernkastelSan]

@SFGK

.....I prefer it an ending where everyone dies. Everyone.

Death to all. All hail The Witch Of Miracles, Bernkastel.

[SFGK]

@BernkastelSan D: :O O.O O.o!!!!! Well that would be original and epic, with the last words, when the seagulls cried, there were nos survivors..... XD

[BernkastelSan]

@SFGK

Yes, that's exactly how it should be.

[CrystalStarlight95]

@BernkastelSan NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[BernkastelSan]

@CrystalStarlight95

Yes, my dear. Yes.

[KirroSoya]

George is the culprit. After all, he, like Kanon, can get around the red claiming that he's dead. He's not really dead, he just drops his 'George' persona and take up the persona of FATFATFAT

[SFGK]

@KirroSoya HOW CAN WE GET AND ASSUME ALL OF THESE CONCLUSIONS!?!?! I NEED HINTS, POSSIBLE THEORY'S OR SOMETHING!!!! SOMEONE EXPLAIN!!!

[KirroSoya]

@SFGK It was a joke.

[KirroSoya]

GO RUDOLF KILL GEORGE

[Turksemployee]

@KirroSoya Why are we so anti-george o.o?

[KirroSoya]

@Qweritys What she said was 'This is all truth-" before Ange screamed. It could be "This is all truth...fully ridiculous" for all we know. XD Especially since Japanese, unlike English, tend to put the "not" at the back, so it might just be "This is all truth.. NOT".

[ChairmanDrekXXA]

Episodes 7's Tea Party was MISSING THE HEART!

[llRambardll]

@Eeruwow Yep. He's shooting @ George.

[xErikaFurudox]

I wouldn't mind Beato in EP7 (meta form), but I would want her to be Troll Beato, not Cougartrice. =/

[NentendoLover3000]

@TrueClaw TOO PREDICTABLE!!!~

WAHAHAHA!!!!

episode 6 -saw that coming-

[NentendoLover3000]

Hmm... I still blame it all on AuAu... and please Ryu-chan.... no more battler x beato

Too predictable~

[Retrofiuter]

@NentendoLover3000 Does Shannon x Battler satisfy you? maybe Battler x Loli Ange?

[TySamma]

@Qweritys Ooo... that could explain a lot.... thanks...

[ShiroMatsuro]

Rudolf(drunk): DONT YOU EVER TOUCH MY DAUGHTER BATTLER AGAIN!!!

George: WAT???? NO WAIT!!!! IM AFTER SHANNON!!!! IM STRAI-

Rudolf: -bang bang bang-

[EphidelDarkheart]

@ShiroMatsuro I just want to say that the best part about this comment is that, eleven months later, it still makes more sense than the "answer" that the visual novel gives. And probably has more basis in truth on top of that.

[Larxenekingdomhearts]

omg fuck this! it's true that they kill all the kids!

[Nutttttter]

@Larxenekingdomhearts

Rudolf gunned down George; Kyrie bludgeoned Jessica to death and stabbed Maria (not shown but heavily implied). Battler's fate remains unknown.

[pbsaffran]

Could ANYONE here notice how gorgeous the track is instead of phantasizing on the solution?

[someone0d]

I believe that Kyrie is the culprit, cuz her name is the latin word for "lord", and all of the opening themes for Umineko has latin in them.

[LordRaikon]

@someone0d Battler pretty much tells Ange at the end of Ep7 that Kyrie and Rudolf aren't the culprits (Though it wasn't in Red, he still says he'll show the truth in the final episode.)

[kastratosephiroth]

@LordRaikon and if they aren't the only one left is jessie chan!

[littlegal2007]

@kastratosephiroth What if there is no culprit!?

DUN DUN DUN!

[Nutttttter]

@littlegal2007

What a TWEEEST!

[kastratosephiroth]

@littlegal2007 no chance

[kastratosephiroth]

@someone0d actually even though everyone says kyrie is Latin it is Greek.kyrios mean lord in greek and kyrie is used when calling the lord hence kyrie eleison witch means god show mercy in greek!so i' m not sure if that counts as a proof!

[someone0d]

@kastratosephiroth Oh shit, you are right, I actually had no idea. (^.^)

But it seems like Kyrie's not the real culprit, the truth will be revealed in the last game! XD

[kastratosephiroth]

@someone0d not kyrie not rudolf not eva hideyoshi natsuhi krauss rosa or any of the servants.not maria or battler.so george or jessica. i vote for jessica!

[Nutttttter]

@kastratosephiroth

If anything, EP7 showed that Jessica and George are innocents...

[0KaguraKurosaki0]

@Nutttttter In fact it was said in ep 3 that Jessica hasn't committed any murder in red truth [She isn't the murderer]:P

[KealymLW]

@0KaguraKurosaki0 ACTUALLY, that red only said that she didn't murder Nanjo in the third game. There are still PLENTY of murders that were possible for Jessica, and don't even get me *started* on all the theory's against George. XD

[kirby6565]

@someone0d The songs use itailian(?)

[jdthunder]

This makes me kind of sad... I know Kyrie is an awesome crazy bitch but I'd always thought Rudolf loved Battler. ;_;

[Paulsama]

ORE WA JAKKU BAUAAA

[SFGK]

@Paulsama when does that appear?

[mLn109]

is there some reason everyone hates george besides him being FATFATFATFAT? just want to make sure i didn't miss anything plot relevant.

[ozoz93]

@mLn109 Shannon loved Battler. Battler loved her as well. So does George, and he's annoyed at Shannon worrying about Battler. Battler sends letters to everyone, but Shannon never gets any. Do the math.

[mLn109]

@ozoz93 omg that fat prick.

[mLn109]

@ozoz93 but wait, couldnt it also have been kyrie or rudolf withholding the letters? it looks like kyrie and rudolf are mostly to blame for this, and eps 5+6 at least makes shannon (shkanontrice?) is somehow complicit in the crime. maybe it was some sort of psycho chessboard gambit to harden her into a murderer or accomplice?...that sounds...elaborate, but for rudolf/kyrie to gain anything from this someone else has to take the fall for the crimes, right?...

[MrBoynton27]

@mLn109 I don't hate George and I don't think he's fat either. However others make Rudolf call him fat so... yeah...

[mLn109]

@MrBoynton27 lolol i was just confused because if his supposed chubbiness were the issue, hideyoshi wouldnt be as popular. but then, the scenes where he dies are usually very well done...

[Blackrunestol]

At last we have arrived in the 'real' world.

The only question now is whether those scenes were illusions (just like the fantasy scenes up till now) or the real deal.

[StarfishHeat]

Game over, fat man.

[mLn109]

JACK BAUER WHY HAVE YOU BETRAYED ME?

[Arayziel]

I thought FATFATFATFAT was going to be the culprit.

[Rotspawn]

Why, Rudolf, why? You were my favourite Ushiromiya until now...

Damn, I never thought I would speak like this damn fatass George, let alone sympathise with him. ;_;

[Jana2222]

whats going on? i don't get it O_o

could someone explain it to me???

[Nutttttter]

@Jana2222

Kyrie and Rudolf go batshit and murder everyone on the island except Eva who kills them and is the only survivor. Remember when we all thought Eva was a bitch to Ange in EP 3/4? Yep, she did that to protect Ange, so she wouldn’t know that her parents are murderers. Eva is confirmed for being the best foster mother ever ;_;

[littlegal2007]

@Nutttttter

Thats only in Bern's "truth" though. It's not like thats what happened. she's just doing this is fuck with Ange.

[Nutttttter]

@littlegal2007

Yes indeed; I was just talking about EP7.

[Nutttttter]

@littlegal2007

AH well, as Bern wasn't the GM in the Tea Party, it's not really her version.

"This is all complete truth." in red text. Poor Ange ;_;

[littlegal2007]

@Nutttttter

FFFFFFFFFFF-

[Yetanotherytuser]

@Nutttttter I wonder, the red truth is true for that tale. Witches can play with the truth inside a cat box, but I really wonder if they are able to open that box.

Because, I mean, I can't really get how it could be the same development inside Lion's world. On Lion's world there were no guns inside the Golden Land, and nobody really knew how the Bomb mechanism worked... so I really wonder if this isn't just a scenario played by Berkanstel to torture Clare (Beatrice)

[Yetanotherytuser]

@Nutttttter Also on Lion's World there weren't any debit card's, that were the whole reason why Kyrie and Rudolf became the culprits according to Bernkastel. In other words, I believe this is clearly just a mind fuck to destroy any trace of hope on Beatrice's game.

[Nutttttter]

@Yetanotherytuser

There's no cat box anymore. The Tea Party depicted the real event; Bern wasn't the GM.

[Yetanotherytuser]

@Nutttttter Are you even reading what I'm saying.

Red words are true for the game of that moment, and also the red words Berkanstel used were like this 「“これは全て真実」, if you see there is a " at the beginning, but there wasn't at the end because Ange screamed at this point. Bernkastel only did this to torture Beatrice because she lost her game.

Also like Willard said, there wasn't any tip for this "truth", but even so Battler reached the golden truth, without looking the inside of the box.

[Nutttttter]

@Yetanotherytuser

Sorry, I should have explained myself better. Sure, Bern loves to mess with people but still, the Tea Party is the truth. However it's most probably not the whole truth (that's what the ??? let me to believe).

There; do we agree now?

[Yetanotherytuser]

@Nutttttter

I have no problem believing that's the truth, the real problem I had is when Bernkastel said that on Leon's world the same thing happens with almost the same development just by Kinzo revealing the epitaph. But yes, I believe Battler reached the golden truth and is going to defeat Bernkastel on the next and final chapter.

[TySamma]

Oh my god! Oh yesss.... I am totally for the Rudolph-Kyrie Theory.

Pleaseee let it be true. I'm so excited for EP7.

[KealymLW]

@TySamma It CAN'T be true. While she may in fact, just so happen to go gold-crazy in Game 7, she was *definitely* confirmed as a victim of murder on the first night in Game 2, so it's really difficult for her to be the overall culprit.

[TySamma]

@KealymLW

*spoilers*

Yes yes, I made that comment before before actually knowing anything about EP7. And so? She dies in EP2, where Yasushkannontrice, or whatever you call that thing, can take over. I feel her and Rudolph easily did a lot, if not most things in EP3 and EP4. I didn't say they were the MAIN culprits, just somewhere right below that level :).

Also, how do you go against Bernkastel's red saying this is all pure reality, with no GM at all?

/endspoilers

[KealymLW]

@TySamma Well, I'll agree that there's a healthy chance there are multiple murder plots, happening independently. I haven't read EP7 yet, so I can't actually SAY anything about Bern's red. I thought EP7 was suppose to be AuAu "checking her answers", or some such? Bern herself said that because of her personality, her reading might be incorrect in places.

I really can't deny anything till I read it, huh? XD

[narutardkyuubi]

@TySamma The red truth is quite simple. The Game Master's role is to narrate anything not dictated by the detective piece, as well as create the board-fantasy scenes. That begs the question, who created the board-mystery scenes aka 'reality with no GM' why, that would be the person who wrote the manuscript for the story. Featherine wrote the 'reality' scenes for Ep.3-6. She understood Beatrice's truth in Ep.1-2, and can create any culprit based on that truth.

[Nutttttter]

@KealymLW

It depends on what you mean by culprit. Yasu who planned everything or Kyrie and Rudolf who are the murderers (or so it seems)? EP1-6 were fictions written by Beatrice and Featherine, they never happened in reality.

[VanChaosLink]

@TySamma After reader the EP7, you never think again. NEVER.

[TySamma]

@VanChaosLink If you meant "think this again," then I disagree with you, I am one of the few who actually enjoyed that hellish tea party. :D Even if Kyrie and Rudolph weren't as smart or calculating as I first hoped for, I thought it was quite the trolling experience.

[SFGK]

@VanChaosLink The mindfuck was just too fucking amazing, I couldn't handle it, just finished it today and I haven't been able to take off my mind about the TRUTH, by the way Bernkastel isn't a witch, SHE'S A BITCH!!!

[latinhoodking]

@TySamma whats the rudolph-kyrie theory??? ;l

[ServantRonove]

@latinhoodking In EP7, Kyrie and Rudolf are the ones behind the murders, and Yasu did not kill anyone directly. That's the theory of Requiem.

[TheSasuke76]

Even Rudolf ?!?! O.o

[MrBoynton27]

Rudolf: Sorry fatman but I need you blood to write my tale.

(points gun to audience)

Rudolf: What? You didn't see this coming?! Shame on you!

(*shot*)

[Skittlesxthexpimp]

I loved this song on Amurita, i just knew it was going to be used in EP7 or at least in one of the future Umineko EPs, also does this mean Rudolf was one of the culprits?

[KuribohTwin]

Anyone... tell me the translation of this song! It's definitely fills with 'CORRUPTION'!!

Also, please stated me, in red, what I just saw from the beginning was just an illusion! If someone wants to correct me out, than correct me, in red.

[sota9]

what going on in this game.

[MrBernkastel2]

this from bern truth for ep 3 that ange ' s parents kill everyone when the adult found the gold and the bomb but eva somehow survives and kills both of them also it wasnt in red so its jus a theory

[Trollkastel]

@Eeruwow Yes, these are screencaps from the music box.

[moonnightprincess]

I suspect both of them!!

[impazeldalinkin]

D: RUDOOOOLLLLFFF

i suspect your wife but not you

[HimikoHim3]

Godly -45 is Godly.