Well it makes sense that Europe gets songs that stretch back thousands of years and speak to the core of the soul of Western Civilization: because that's the origin of Western civilization! Europe has a much longer and recorded ancient history than the Americas. The best you could hope for here is songs like this with like Inca or Maya speech...
@claudius860 U know, u r the sort of person I hate with an absolute passion... THIS VIDEO HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH JUSTIN FRICKEN BEIBER OR REBECCA FRICKEN BLACK!!!!!!!! This is getting ridiculous!!! U ruin good videos with ur utter spammage of those 2 insults 2 the world!!!! Even if its for or against them, its still incredibly rage enducing!!!!! Instead of commenting on those 2 musical embarrassments, comment on the video and its relativities u halfwit!!!! D:<
My favorite comment! ^_^ And yes.. sad day for us American's and our withering culture! lol! I try to immerse my self as little as possible in it! although I live here.. haha!
Make a reservation for your place in heaven and that's it. I strongly dislike that a great old song like this provokes deluded religious crap. Enjoy the song. Fuck the money and religion, that's the message of this song.
The song does, indeed, revolve slightly around the idea that religion goes to the highest bidder, so to speak, but I won't go starting arguments about it.
Thanks for the upload. Inspired me to buy the album.
I was too trying give the Christians big credit for all "the good" they brought within us for their time.... but I'm now more in studies of antiquity and I'm just changing my opinnions you see. But I don't want to offend you or anybody.
@GodmyX I understand it if you say Christian influence was rather negative for that's a personal point of view. But you can't deny it no doubt HAD influence, enormous influence.
I think we can leave it here, but if you want further evidence for Christian influence on modern society or if you want to discuss if it was Good or Evil, you're welcome to do that (: But it's rather complicated on youtube, ni my opinion.
@GenossinAyla Ok, it was pleasure to talk to you with me.
And as last thing I'd say, which is connected to the song: I'm really REALLY eternaly greatful to the catholic church, that they preserved Latin for another 2000 years! Because I love Latin (and they too did).
@GodmyX And don't worry, I don't take it as an offense (; I'd just be pleased if you wouldn't use such radical expressions like "Christians blinded us" o.0 That sounds too subjective and may insult people, you understand ...
@GodmyX althuoght I don't say that it was just the religion which brought this empire to its knees - certainly not. But if we look on the timeline and the situation - it was one of the factors.
@GodmyX If Christianity was an "important factor", that is also evidence for its historical importance ;)
And Christianity was also one very important factor which brought up our whole modern society ... I'm not stating that it was good or bad, but as you said yourself, it played a key role ... ^^
@GenossinAyla Important factor yes... but also Adolf Hitler was important factor and we don't feel like to prise him. Forgive me - I know, that this comparison is way inadequate, I just wanted something to make it really obvious so went ad extremum (forget it).
You see, I'm just still trying to compare medieval and for example roman civilization (cities and so forth).. and for my part, doesn't get so well for first few hundred years for medieval society than for former Roman.
@GenossinAyla if you'd just read my last comment, I negated exactly what you just said in first two paragraphs ;)
Oh yes, it was in power, but much larger mass of the people got to the non-christian knowledge, so church was forces to make some compromises with them.
What I was trying to say, that for western part of Rome the christianity came too late and things which we inherited from Romans, doesn't owe anything to christianity.
@GodmyX I'm sorry, I read it later xD Pardon me, my mistake!
I think what you're saying does not necessarily exclude my point. You're probably right with what you say about the Roman Empire - of course it played a very significant role in our development, and you already gave interesting facts to make this evident (;
But on the other hand, one should also not forget about the importance of Christianity and the Church which did very much more than only "blinding people".
.. enforcing it, they had many moral laws, which we'd think to be originated from christianity (for example, the law of not-raping women). And those are sometimes civilization way older than 4000 years. Hard to say, if things which were claimed by Newton for example wouldn't have been claimed centuries before, if nobody was so hardly against (as the church).
@GodmyX Hmm, it's not my intention to under-estimate the meaning of the Roman law, but I think you're confounding era with religion. Maybe the Middle Ages weren't very "productive" in that sense, but the Christian religion doubtlessly was. You see it investigating the world situation now. The Roman Empire also included countries which now live in misery. It would be too cheap to blame everything on the Church (;
@GenossinAyla Well - I can't say, that I'm really confouding two different things, because Christianity had almost absolute political power over the states in their influence - so they created the era.
Romans were almost hundred years pagans, well they were religious, but they religion and view on their gods in their minds was fundamentaly different from ours (or Christian's). Second thing is, that the most important part of empire started to inevitably tearing appart when the empire religion
Carmina Burana 1170?! Don´t say this criticism has been existing for hundreds of years now! It´s so easy to apply on modern Capitalism, this is really impressing!
@GenossinAyla Much longer than that ;) Christians blind us, make us thing, that all the time before last 1-2 centuries were dark with blind people.... partially it were, during the middleage... but the ages before, the pre-christianity age were a blossom of human civilization and of all sorts of thinking! Roman law is one example.. but there are many many more. And money are almost as old, as humanity itself.
@GodmyX Money sure is, but is Capitalist way of thinking? I thought it got "to power" much more later, about the time of Industrial Revolution ... 0.0
But hey, you make it sound like Christianity slowed down our social development, thats definitely not the case ... Our society owes its advantages to it, I think ...
But never minds, this is just an impressing song! I think we can agree on that =)
@GenossinAyla Of you course you are right in range of last 1700 years... but long way before - just look how was build the roman society. The rich could have everything, even slaves - it's not really far from what you'd call capitalist today.
@GodmyX Oh, I agree with you about what concerns Roman slaves and the connection to Capitalism; it might be radically expressed, but theres no doubt that youre right :)
Still, many people simply ignore the influence of Christianity in our society; it affects our law-system, our economic-system and our whole way of thinking which certainly differs from other cultures and civilizations. Im not stating it is all good, and it has obvious negative sides, but cant be ignored ;)
@GenossinAyla I'd still say, as before, that the biggest influence on modern/today law has the Roman law, which has been first taken to USA and stripped of the slave-things and made to absolutely democracy.... and from USA the rest of the Europe took it after the monarchy had been overthrown. And that it is different law than for example in middleage.If you look to some even older pagan advanced civilizations, you will find that even without the "powerful" hand of christian religion enforcing
@elsbethalithia kala mhn thn psaxneis me to mualo....taxideuei sto xwroxrono!oxi,ok den xreiazomai dieuthunsh,tha steilw shmata kapnou pros to velgio,kati tha deisl ;-)
@obscura7 Symfwnw kai to exeis pei poihtika.'Xwroxronos' einai hara leksis kai thn eikwna pou prokalei oraia. Alla ta shmata sou, sygnwmh, fovamai oti de tha ta dw me ola ta apovlhta apo thn japonia. Tha xathoun. Kai ti tote? Mhpws na xathw athliws apo miseria? :p (Hint:protimw poihmata agaphs sta neolatinika!!!!)
Ma ligo pio sovaro, exw dei epishs oti eheis mia arketa eklektikh geush mousikhs. Eheis profil Lastfm? An den eheis, einai endiaferon na anakalupteis nea pragmata. Den xereis pote :)
@elsbethalithia egw den eimai toso ths lurikhs poihshs,protimw to klasiko epos k tragwdia,na sunthlivontai oi anthrwpoi apo thn moira k na suneidhtopoioun thn mhdaminothta tous.alhtheia pws k gnwrizeis latinika?xarhka pou eida sxolio sta latinika,ta latreuw(spoudasa klasikh filologia).den gnwriza gia to lastfm,tha to tsekarw...thanks gia thn enhmerwsh:)
@obscura7 giati spoudasa to idio. :) Latinika, archaia kai nea ellhnika (proairetiko). Den einai dhmofilhs meleth edw sto Velgio alla eutyxws yparhei pia. Eisai kathhghtria isws? Egw hmouna gia dyo hronia, twra prospathw kati allo, giati den eiha arxh sthn taksi. (katholou). Xereis oti i thesh twn arhaiwn ellinhkwn apeileitai edw sto gymnasio? Provlepoume oti se liga xronia tha exafanhstei. Kai me ta Latinika ehei provlimata epishs, theloun na meiwnoun tis wres kai thn diarkeia sto programma.
@obscura7 aaax,paei oi klasikes spoudes tha exafanistoun....k edw ta idia,fantasou,apeilountai ta arxaia ellhnika sthn ellada!prowthountai upologistes k xenes glwsses....nai didaskw edw k 8 xronia,k pros to paron paw kala...by the way,polu kalh fash to last fm!ekana hdh profile:)
@obscura7 Xairomai :) isws einai kalytera na exakolouthoume th zyshthsh ekei sto mellon. Xereis to group Qntal? Ehoun polla tragoudia sta Latinika, kai sth gnwmh mou einai apo poly kalh ektelesh.
@elsbethalithia oi qntal einai apo ta agaphmena mou groups,tous exw dei k live.....apisteuth mousikh!eidika to translucida(to last album tous) para polu kalo!nai didaskw mono arxaia ellhnika k latinika,den mou poluaresei ekthesh,neoellhnikh logotexnia klp(m aresei na diavazw logotexnia alla oxi na thn analuw,k eidika me ton tropo pou thn didaskontai sta sxoleia)
@obscura7 Pali symfwnw, Translucida einai ena aristourghma. Einai creepy, xafnika erhetai proswpo me ta idia endiaferonta kai mousikh. LOL. Opwsdhpote, steilte mou link gia to profil sou, parakalw. Thelw na dw tis mousikes sou, vevaia na xereis kati pou borei na m'endiaferei.
@obscura7 Den xerw poly gia thn neoellhnikh logotexnia ektos apo afto pou eida sto panepisthmio. Kai prepei na paradexomai oti den exw diavasw poly meta, ektos apo tous megalous poihtes, Seferhs, Kavafhs, ktl. Eixa shedio na refresh ta gnwrismata mou giati arxizw na xehnw poly. (leksilogio! kai h mnhmh mou den einai opws prin!)
@obscura7 tha borouses na akouseis mhpws to ecce gratum remix! Einai xrhsimo sthn taxh. (Kai bravo gia thn ypomonh kai patientsa me ta paidia sthn ekpaideush, na ektimountai oi daskaloi!! Didaskeis kai tis duo glwsses?)
@claudius860 and Britney Spears. :D
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Well it makes sense that Europe gets songs that stretch back thousands of years and speak to the core of the soul of Western Civilization: because that's the origin of Western civilization! Europe has a much longer and recorded ancient history than the Americas. The best you could hope for here is songs like this with like Inca or Maya speech...
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@claudius860 Americans are not Humans...
CaesaroSumabillity 9 months ago
" Europe gets Helium Vola and Qntal " ... and Era ;) Great song! Loved it!
jorgeerosa 9 months ago 3
@claudius860 No, I'd be happier in life if people like yourself would stop commenting about irrelivant bullcrap!!! God Bless my Ass!!!
FortitudoProductions 10 months ago
@claudius860 U know, u r the sort of person I hate with an absolute passion... THIS VIDEO HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH JUSTIN FRICKEN BEIBER OR REBECCA FRICKEN BLACK!!!!!!!! This is getting ridiculous!!! U ruin good videos with ur utter spammage of those 2 insults 2 the world!!!! Even if its for or against them, its still incredibly rage enducing!!!!! Instead of commenting on those 2 musical embarrassments, comment on the video and its relativities u halfwit!!!! D:<
FortitudoProductions 10 months ago 2
@claudius860
My favorite comment! ^_^ And yes.. sad day for us American's and our withering culture! lol! I try to immerse my self as little as possible in it! although I live here.. haha!
piper42 11 months ago
@claudius860 You have Madonna! ;p
elsbethalithia 11 months ago 5
Thanx 4 this track and thanx 4 lyrics... =)
Astrelius 11 months ago
Make a reservation for your place in heaven and that's it. I strongly dislike that a great old song like this provokes deluded religious crap. Enjoy the song. Fuck the money and religion, that's the message of this song.
elsbethalithia 1 year ago
@elsbethalithia
Look, a music uploader with some sense.
The song does, indeed, revolve slightly around the idea that religion goes to the highest bidder, so to speak, but I won't go starting arguments about it.
Thanks for the upload. Inspired me to buy the album.
brunojluc4 1 year ago
I was too trying give the Christians big credit for all "the good" they brought within us for their time.... but I'm now more in studies of antiquity and I'm just changing my opinnions you see. But I don't want to offend you or anybody.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX I understand it if you say Christian influence was rather negative for that's a personal point of view. But you can't deny it no doubt HAD influence, enormous influence.
I think we can leave it here, but if you want further evidence for Christian influence on modern society or if you want to discuss if it was Good or Evil, you're welcome to do that (: But it's rather complicated on youtube, ni my opinion.
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla Ok, it was pleasure to talk to you with me.
And as last thing I'd say, which is connected to the song: I'm really REALLY eternaly greatful to the catholic church, that they preserved Latin for another 2000 years! Because I love Latin (and they too did).
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX *for me - I'm sorry, I'm not a native speaker of english.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX It was a pleasure for me, too, and thanks for the interesting discussion (:
I hope you're going to learn a lot more from your studies, but I'd also ask you to express yourself with more respect referring to the Church (:
And yes - Latin and this song are great! x)
Greetings!
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GodmyX And don't worry, I don't take it as an offense (; I'd just be pleased if you wouldn't use such radical expressions like "Christians blinded us" o.0 That sounds too subjective and may insult people, you understand ...
Greetings!
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
.. had been forced to change to Christianity (for some time both lived together).
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX althuoght I don't say that it was just the religion which brought this empire to its knees - certainly not. But if we look on the timeline and the situation - it was one of the factors.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX If Christianity was an "important factor", that is also evidence for its historical importance ;)
And Christianity was also one very important factor which brought up our whole modern society ... I'm not stating that it was good or bad, but as you said yourself, it played a key role ... ^^
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla Important factor yes... but also Adolf Hitler was important factor and we don't feel like to prise him. Forgive me - I know, that this comparison is way inadequate, I just wanted something to make it really obvious so went ad extremum (forget it).
You see, I'm just still trying to compare medieval and for example roman civilization (cities and so forth).. and for my part, doesn't get so well for first few hundred years for medieval society than for former Roman.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX Hm, explaining Christianity as the "root of all evil" sounds familiar to me. I think that's a rather cheap explanation, being honest (;
What is more, it is empirically completely insufficient to say that "the Roman Empire went down because of Christianity" ...
Apart from that, Christianity has been in power not only during the Middle Ages but by the whole Renaissance, too ;)
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla if you'd just read my last comment, I negated exactly what you just said in first two paragraphs ;)
Oh yes, it was in power, but much larger mass of the people got to the non-christian knowledge, so church was forces to make some compromises with them.
What I was trying to say, that for western part of Rome the christianity came too late and things which we inherited from Romans, doesn't owe anything to christianity.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX I'm sorry, I read it later xD Pardon me, my mistake!
I think what you're saying does not necessarily exclude my point. You're probably right with what you say about the Roman Empire - of course it played a very significant role in our development, and you already gave interesting facts to make this evident (;
But on the other hand, one should also not forget about the importance of Christianity and the Church which did very much more than only "blinding people".
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
.. enforcing it, they had many moral laws, which we'd think to be originated from christianity (for example, the law of not-raping women). And those are sometimes civilization way older than 4000 years. Hard to say, if things which were claimed by Newton for example wouldn't have been claimed centuries before, if nobody was so hardly against (as the church).
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX Hmm, it's not my intention to under-estimate the meaning of the Roman law, but I think you're confounding era with religion. Maybe the Middle Ages weren't very "productive" in that sense, but the Christian religion doubtlessly was. You see it investigating the world situation now. The Roman Empire also included countries which now live in misery. It would be too cheap to blame everything on the Church (;
Apart from that - weren't the Romans Christian?
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla Well - I can't say, that I'm really confouding two different things, because Christianity had almost absolute political power over the states in their influence - so they created the era.
Romans were almost hundred years pagans, well they were religious, but they religion and view on their gods in their minds was fundamentaly different from ours (or Christian's). Second thing is, that the most important part of empire started to inevitably tearing appart when the empire religion
GodmyX 1 year ago
Does anyone know where to find an English translation for this?
Darkfire315 1 year ago
awesome song :)
Dimehy666 1 year ago
das ist so geil das lied das mir echt fast einer bei abgeht
Flyingdragon80 1 year ago 14
Carmina Burana 1170?! Don´t say this criticism has been existing for hundreds of years now! It´s so easy to apply on modern Capitalism, this is really impressing!
Greetings
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla Much longer than that ;) Christians blind us, make us thing, that all the time before last 1-2 centuries were dark with blind people.... partially it were, during the middleage... but the ages before, the pre-christianity age were a blossom of human civilization and of all sorts of thinking! Roman law is one example.. but there are many many more. And money are almost as old, as humanity itself.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX Money sure is, but is Capitalist way of thinking? I thought it got "to power" much more later, about the time of Industrial Revolution ... 0.0
But hey, you make it sound like Christianity slowed down our social development, thats definitely not the case ... Our society owes its advantages to it, I think ...
But never minds, this is just an impressing song! I think we can agree on that =)
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla Of you course you are right in range of last 1700 years... but long way before - just look how was build the roman society. The rich could have everything, even slaves - it's not really far from what you'd call capitalist today.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla Anyway I can't find any reason why to support the oppinion about advancement during the christian period... if you wish to think so.
GodmyX 1 year ago
@GodmyX Oh, I agree with you about what concerns Roman slaves and the connection to Capitalism; it might be radically expressed, but theres no doubt that youre right :)
Still, many people simply ignore the influence of Christianity in our society; it affects our law-system, our economic-system and our whole way of thinking which certainly differs from other cultures and civilizations. Im not stating it is all good, and it has obvious negative sides, but cant be ignored ;)
GenossinAyla 1 year ago
@GenossinAyla I'd still say, as before, that the biggest influence on modern/today law has the Roman law, which has been first taken to USA and stripped of the slave-things and made to absolutely democracy.... and from USA the rest of the Europe took it after the monarchy had been overthrown. And that it is different law than for example in middleage.If you look to some even older pagan advanced civilizations, you will find that even without the "powerful" hand of christian religion enforcing
GodmyX 1 year ago
wonderful song, a well made protest, one more masterpiece from the genius HV. Greetings from Mexico!!
ortrank 2 years ago
Gänsehaut !!!!
DonGuzzy 2 years ago
Great.
5 Stars.
Perfoillusion 2 years ago
It's a double disc release and the whole second album is fantastic.
elsbethalithia 2 years ago
Gratias tibi ago for uploading id pulchrum opum! :^D
I really love the part when the pipe organ plays. I think I have to get the CD.
M1n8Beacon 2 years ago
Great song uploaded by magistra optima :p
gothica86 2 years ago
Gratias ago, parva infans.
elsbethalithia 2 years ago
@elsbethalithia Coque gratias tibi ago, nam perfectionem in hoc carmine inveni!
GodmyX 1 year ago
@elsbethalithia cur llam parvam infantem esse dicis?
obscura7 1 year ago
@elsbethalithia aetatem illius cognoscis?
obscura7 1 year ago
@obscura7. Ita est et erat blandimentum.
elsbethalithia 1 year ago
@elsbethalithia comprehendi...ubi te tenes?ego in graecia me teneo
obscura7 1 year ago
@obscura7 to eida. Sto velgio, alla sto nou mou menw kapou allou. Theleis kai thn diefthynsi mou? haha ;)
elsbethalithia 1 year ago
@elsbethalithia kala mhn thn psaxneis me to mualo....taxideuei sto xwroxrono!oxi,ok den xreiazomai dieuthunsh,tha steilw shmata kapnou pros to velgio,kati tha deisl ;-)
obscura7 11 months ago
@obscura7 Symfwnw kai to exeis pei poihtika.'Xwroxronos' einai hara leksis kai thn eikwna pou prokalei oraia. Alla ta shmata sou, sygnwmh, fovamai oti de tha ta dw me ola ta apovlhta apo thn japonia. Tha xathoun. Kai ti tote? Mhpws na xathw athliws apo miseria? :p (Hint:protimw poihmata agaphs sta neolatinika!!!!)
Ma ligo pio sovaro, exw dei epishs oti eheis mia arketa eklektikh geush mousikhs. Eheis profil Lastfm? An den eheis, einai endiaferon na anakalupteis nea pragmata. Den xereis pote :)
elsbethalithia 11 months ago
@elsbethalithia egw den eimai toso ths lurikhs poihshs,protimw to klasiko epos k tragwdia,na sunthlivontai oi anthrwpoi apo thn moira k na suneidhtopoioun thn mhdaminothta tous.alhtheia pws k gnwrizeis latinika?xarhka pou eida sxolio sta latinika,ta latreuw(spoudasa klasikh filologia).den gnwriza gia to lastfm,tha to tsekarw...thanks gia thn enhmerwsh:)
obscura7 11 months ago
@obscura7 giati spoudasa to idio. :) Latinika, archaia kai nea ellhnika (proairetiko). Den einai dhmofilhs meleth edw sto Velgio alla eutyxws yparhei pia. Eisai kathhghtria isws? Egw hmouna gia dyo hronia, twra prospathw kati allo, giati den eiha arxh sthn taksi. (katholou). Xereis oti i thesh twn arhaiwn ellinhkwn apeileitai edw sto gymnasio? Provlepoume oti se liga xronia tha exafanhstei. Kai me ta Latinika ehei provlimata epishs, theloun na meiwnoun tis wres kai thn diarkeia sto programma.
elsbethalithia 11 months ago
@obscura7 aaax,paei oi klasikes spoudes tha exafanistoun....k edw ta idia,fantasou,apeilountai ta arxaia ellhnika sthn ellada!prowthountai upologistes k xenes glwsses....nai didaskw edw k 8 xronia,k pros to paron paw kala...by the way,polu kalh fash to last fm!ekana hdh profile:)
obscura7 11 months ago
@obscura7 Xairomai :) isws einai kalytera na exakolouthoume th zyshthsh ekei sto mellon. Xereis to group Qntal? Ehoun polla tragoudia sta Latinika, kai sth gnwmh mou einai apo poly kalh ektelesh.
elsbethalithia 11 months ago
@elsbethalithia oi qntal einai apo ta agaphmena mou groups,tous exw dei k live.....apisteuth mousikh!eidika to translucida(to last album tous) para polu kalo!nai didaskw mono arxaia ellhnika k latinika,den mou poluaresei ekthesh,neoellhnikh logotexnia klp(m aresei na diavazw logotexnia alla oxi na thn analuw,k eidika me ton tropo pou thn didaskontai sta sxoleia)
obscura7 11 months ago
@obscura7 Pali symfwnw, Translucida einai ena aristourghma. Einai creepy, xafnika erhetai proswpo me ta idia endiaferonta kai mousikh. LOL. Opwsdhpote, steilte mou link gia to profil sou, parakalw. Thelw na dw tis mousikes sou, vevaia na xereis kati pou borei na m'endiaferei.
elsbethalithia 11 months ago
@obscura7 Den xerw poly gia thn neoellhnikh logotexnia ektos apo afto pou eida sto panepisthmio. Kai prepei na paradexomai oti den exw diavasw poly meta, ektos apo tous megalous poihtes, Seferhs, Kavafhs, ktl. Eixa shedio na refresh ta gnwrismata mou giati arxizw na xehnw poly. (leksilogio! kai h mnhmh mou den einai opws prin!)
elsbethalithia 11 months ago
@elsbethalithia habesne liber faciei?(spero te intellegere quid velim dicere)....
obscura7 11 months ago
@obscura7 tha borouses na akouseis mhpws to ecce gratum remix! Einai xrhsimo sthn taxh. (Kai bravo gia thn ypomonh kai patientsa me ta paidia sthn ekpaideush, na ektimountai oi daskaloi!! Didaskeis kai tis duo glwsses?)
elsbethalithia 11 months ago